From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #108 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, March 26 2001 Volume 06 : Number 108 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: High Schools- My Defense ["Gregg Kern" ] Re: SpArKi00 here and still living [BriDaisy@aol.com] Re: New Member :) NPR ["Jess" ] new pressings of haunted ["Miharu Nakatani" ] Re: Poe in New Orleans [zoe ] Re: High Schools- My Defense ["Anthony Bender" ] Re: NPR: food for thought [GloryBox84@aol.com] NPR, Not a Slam ["Michael" ] RE: #poe info for 3/22 AND Re: Poe Chat Thursday ["SteVisOK" ] Re: #poe info for 3/22 AND Re: Poe Chat Thursday ["Roger Harvey" ] Claire's new web site ["Claire HM" ] ok I am sorry ["Claire HM" ] Don't know if this was posted yet ["devilbird" ] "Hey Pretty" add on disc.. and more ["Rusty Shelby" ] Re: ~* Poe at the Movies [KrayzeeJenJ@netscape.net (Jen J.)] NPR: High School Popularity [KoriG@aol.com] NPR: Memphis in May [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] NPR: The whole high school thing... [Iamtheher4u@aol.com] Re: NPR: High School Popularity [BluesyBear@aol.com] Re: NPR: High School Popularity ["A. Stephen Apsley" ] ONE THING IN COMMON... [Sandra Guzman ] Re: NPR: High School Popularity [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] RE: 1-800-520-1067 Requests@KROQ.com http://www.kroq.com/yahoo/ yahoo.html [Sandra Guzman ] RE: NPR: High School Popularity ["A. Stephen Apsley" Subject: RE: High Schools- My Defense EMOKidsSmell@aol.com wrote: > I'm sick of hearing people say the popular kids made fun of > them. I know at > my school we didn't make fun of other kids. Yes, because if you didn't pick on anyone, *no one* else could have been doing it. - -- "Frankly, Vampire players who think www.angelfire.com/az/pariahic they're really Vampires don't scare ICQ:879171 me nearly as much as the ones who Pariahic think they're poets." -S. John Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:48:41 EST From: BriDaisy@aol.com Subject: Re: SpArKi00 here and still living I think it is about time for abercrombie to take a step off it's high horse and let individuality take over. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:37:59 -0600 From: "Jess" Subject: Re: New Member :) NPR Dio!!!!!!!!!! Pink Floyd!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) opps sorry... 80's rule!! Jess - ----- Original Message ----- From: > I like so many different types of music let me see. I like God Smack, > Pink Floyd, Dio, Seven Dust, Guano Apes, Techno, and so many others that > there isn't enough time left in the day to name them all. It's been great > telling you all about myself, but I look forward to hearing from you even > more. > Ajax > Talos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:13:16 -0000 From: "Miharu Nakatani" Subject: new pressings of haunted Hiya gang.. here's a bit of record store news I collected in the last few days: The new presses of Haunted (with the new mix of Hey Pretty) look just like the old ones, but they have stickers that identify the new track (the stickers are the same color as the old ones that had the Blair Witch 2 info on it.) And yes, the song as at the bottom of the track list. (Side note: Somehow I think the extra track is gonna make the "flow" of the album all outta whack.. ah well..) I've only found them at the Virgin Megastore in Ontario, CA (not Canada, eh ;p). Speaking of that Virgin store.. they've had the Rise and Shine single there FOREVER (or at least my roommate has told me.) I was there on Tuesday with no cash (the single was there at the time).. I go there today with cash and POW.. no single. Sad Miharu. ;_; A friend of mine (and new AP) asked me to help him find Haunted. We went to both the Sam Goody and Wherehouse stores in the Galleria at Tyler here in Riverside, CA. The Wherehouse had absolutely no Poe, and Sam Goody had Haunted for something like $15. We visited Best Buy and found that they had happily restocked Haunted and it's priced at $9.99. Considering that they had Hello there for $14.. it's just kinda weird. Can't say I like it either. Just a feeling that Poe is getting screwed out of even more money... Anyway.. don't forget to bumfut KROQ with requests! - -miharu _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:26:03 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: New Member :) NPR In a message dated 3/26/2001 4:24:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, texaskiwi@worldnet.att.net writes: > Dio!!!!!!!!!! Pink Floyd!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) > > opps sorry... > 80's rule!! > > Jess > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pink Floyd go all the way back to the 60s:-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:21:13 -0800 (PST) From: zoe Subject: Re: NPR *violence and other societal drama* "Even if parents have done a decent job with their kid at a young age, most reach a point where they're beyond the influence of their parents. Anyone so impressionable that he can be 'driven' to kill someone IS sick. I also think that kids that will shoot others and then themselves aren't very worried about consequences anyway. My brother was seeing a psychologist for a while because he was really anti-social. After talking to him for a few weeks, he worked his analysis magic and concluded just what kind of family my brother was a part of. He reasoned that he had a really tough home life. Well, he doesn't. We're a pretty typical family that really hasn't had to suffer through anything very big. I don't have bad parents, but an 'expert' has assumed otherwise... So the parenting aspect isn't black and white." Okay, AOL and Yahoo are really pissing me off right now, so I'm going to make this quick... my point was not whether these kids are sick or not, because obviously, if they're sick they aren't going to realize consequences, and even if they aren't sick, a lot of them won't realize the consequences if they haven't been taught how serious those consequences may be. Regardless of whether a child thinks or acts like their parents no longer have any influence on them, they are more than likely just not willing to admit that they may need their parents from time to time for guidance. I know, I am still a kid and I do need my parents, have always needed my parents, and will always need my parents when I have a situation that requires guidance from an elder. If you were to take those parents out of a child's life when they really needed someone to turn to, where would they go? Nowhere... they would feel isolated because their parents aren't there to guide them... sure, they may be able to turn to their friends but most of the time, teenagers aren't completely satisfied with the guidance their friends have to offer, anyway. They may have other family members as well, but the people they seek the most advice from is the parents. I can't tell you how many times I've been in the position where I did something that my parents advised against and ended up wishing that I'd listened to them (I'm sure that you older folks out there know what I'm talking about...) So either way, the parents are the biggest influence in a childs life and that child often takes advantage of the idea that their parents will always be around and have always been around, through thick and thin because no parent in their right mind would leave their child when their child needed them most. So, what happens when a child takes advantage of that idea? They start to wish that they were more independent and that their parents would go away and that they would be able to do whatever they want and they don't need their parents advice to get by, but the truth of it is, that no matter how old or how young, your parents are always ALWAYS a continuing influence on your life whether you think so or not. Unless of course that parent is a crackhead that took off not long after you were born, but even then, that's something that's helped shape who you are today and has effected you and influenced you in several decisions... when you are taught at a very young age the consequences of possessing and using a dangerous weapon, then you don't just one day, when you're in high school say "screw that noise, I'm gonna go shoot some people up because my parents no longer have any influence on me, even though they did teach me the consequences of what will happen if I do this..." No, if you have been taught what will happen, then regardless of whether your parents have any influence on you or not, you're going to think about the pros and cons of the situation because you're gonna want to save your own ass, and when you know the consequences and you don't want to get in trouble for your actions, no matter how much you may want to pick up a gun and shoot someone, you're not going to because you know that that would get you in trouble and draw unwanted attention to you. I think these kids knew it was wrong and did it anyway. The excuse of being picked on is just that... an excuse. It's not a reason. As far as the whole thing with people being diagnosed with mental illnesses, did that cause them to go out and shoot up their high school or kill people? Probably not... I know that I was diagnosed as borderline bi-polar after 3 years of counseling and that did nothing to influence whether I would go out and kill a few people off no matter how much I wanted to... but it did help me to learn to control my temper and especially my actions when I became angry... So you can't say that counseling doesn't do anything for you... however, you could say that popping kids and adults alike full of pills for diagnoses that actually aren't affected by the drugs prescribed for them at all does nothing for you. And paying tons of money to a psychiatrist who over charges by the hour to tell you that a) nothings wrong with you or b) you don't really have some sort of mental illness but I'll tell you that you do just so I can pump you full of drugs and make even more money off of you or c) you really do have something wrong with you but all I can say to you is "and how does that make you feel?" does nothing for you... in a lot of cases... why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? If you really need help, go to somebody who doesn't get paid for helping you... then you know they really do care about helping people with their problems and they'll look into the real meaning behind your situation. But on a lighter note, I heard on this news last night that a 2 year old near Seattle has been declared a hero because she saved her babysitters life. Her babysitter had been teaching her to dial 911 if anyone was sick or hurt by using a toy phone and the baby's teletubbies dolls and then the babysitter had a seizure and collapsed on the floor unconscious and the little girl grabbed the phone and dialed 911. I thought that was touching and the mother was so proud because she had no idea her daughter could do that. Well, I suppose I should go... sorry about the tangent. *zoe* ===== If you knew now what you'll know in 20 years, then there's no point to life. If you knew 20 years ago what you know now, then you had no life. Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:41:14 -0800 (PST) From: zoe Subject: Re: Poe in New Orleans >106.7 "The End" is playing Poe in New Orleans. hehe... funny... 107.7 "The End" in Seattle has been playing Poe since "Hello" came out... of course, they retired her for a little while but every once in awhile they put her back in rotation and mix up the songs... in fact, not too long ago they had Angry Johnny back in the top ten again for the first time in years. Of course, the radio stations up here are still a little out of touch, so it may be awhile before I hear anything like Hey Pretty on the radio... however I know they were playing a newer Poe song up here for awhile on all the radio stations... I think it was either "Haunted" or that song that's on the "Anywhere but Here" soundtrack... anyhow, POE RULES!!! Gnite! \ *zoe* ===== If you knew now what you'll know in 20 years, then there's no point to life. If you knew 20 years ago what you know now, then you had no life. Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:10:04 -0600 From: "Anthony Bender" Subject: Re: High Schools- My Defense The real cool thing about school is once it's over all those popular people got the same piece of paper you got (diploma) and they are no better then the rest of society. The "uncool""geeks"and "outsiders" rule the world. We out number the popular kids 100/1! Once your a adult it doesn't all end but for the most part it does. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:38:16 EST From: GloryBox84@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: food for thought In a message dated 3/25/2001 9:50:56 PM Central Standard Time, Psyren13@aol.com writes: > Have you guys ever realized that the popular kids are always the ones no one > can stand? How then are they so popular? Maybe that's just in my school, > but > I think it's a good question. > I was about to say that until I got to this mail. I'm just as bewildered as you. Maybe "popular" means "preppy"...? - - --Kim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:44:26 -0600 From: "Michael" Subject: NPR, Not a Slam Disclaimer: This isn't a slam, Zoe. I just found this kind of funny: [----- Original Message ----- From: "zoe" To: Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 4:21 AM Subject: Re: NPR *violence and other societal drama*] [SNIP INTRO] [Okay, AOL and Yahoo are really pissing me off right now, so I'm going to make this quick... ] And then you wrote the longest message I've ever seen on this list! Haha. Not slamming you, but I wasn't expecting such a long post to follow those words! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:35:19 -0500 From: "SteVisOK" Subject: RE: #poe info for 3/22 AND Re: Poe Chat Thursday Thanks Spook for all the help info AND the link to mIRC. I went to the mIRC site, downloaded the app, installed it. Followed instructions. Went to the mIRC link on www.poe.org and zaparrooni I was in. That was at home. Did same at office behind FW and ta da!! success again. Easy as pIe. SteVe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:35:19 -0500 From: "SteVisOK" Subject: NPR RE: SpArKi00 here and still living snip << is a big popularity contest....i lost. >> IMHO perhaps the battle but certainly not the bigger picture. My HS was also a be in or be very out kinda place. I recently attended my 20th reunion. (First one) Differnet perspective. I was quite on my game and muyc h farther 'ahead' than the folks-who-were-THE-crowd. How? I measure by my own metrics not anyone elses. Glad to hear you're alive! SteVe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:48:11 -0500 From: "Roger Harvey" Subject: Re: #poe info for 3/22 AND Re: Poe Chat Thursday From: "SteVisOK" To: "Angry-Psychos" Subject: RE: #poe info for 3/22 AND Re: Poe Chat Thursday > > Thanks Spook for all the help info AND the link to mIRC. > > I went to the mIRC site, downloaded the app, installed it. Followed > instructions. > > Went to the mIRC link on www.poe.org and zaparrooni I was in. That was at > home. Did same at office behind FW and ta da!! success again. Easy as pIe. > > SteVe Yes... mIRC is a very easy to operate program.. I have been using mIRC for years now... so if anyone needs any help, you can e-mail me directly at nsm@jacksonville.net and i will be glad to help... just make the subject line "mIRC Help" By the Way...... my Nickname on IRC is Nightstalker_Micronta for all you new people to IRC =] ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 2001 13:34:28 -0500 From: meowkittie@gurlmail.com Subject: Re: NPR re: food for thought at my school there's no such thing as popularity...it's hard to have that sort of thing when there're only 108 kids total in the school...and that's for grades 7-12...so everybody gets along...mostly...i mean there are a few kids that nobody likes but they're the ones who are just weird and annoying beyond the pale...which is a good trick...considering the fact that at my school just about everybody is weird and annoying...that's what happens when you go to an "alternative" school...you get all those manic-depressive people who would probably consider shooting up their local public highschool if they didn't go to Crefeld...but anyway...i'm just sorta ranting now...i'll shut up... Love, Emily (Ems) "You say I'm a dreamer I say you're a non-believer..." -Good Charlotte, Screamer ________________________________________________________________________ - --> get your free, private gURLmail account at http://www.gURLmail.com!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:53:47 -0500 From: "Claire HM" Subject: East coast tour I think east is good... she would of course be driving through the midwest at some point?.... I can drive any where in the midwest to see her! >From: Psyren13@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: another radio list >Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:54:15 EST > > >In a message dated 3/25/01 7:51:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, K3285@aol.com >writes: > > > > So maybe Poe should start an east coast tour, dontcha think? > > > > > > > >I would love nothing more, just as long as she stops in Jersey!!!! > Lily _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:03:27 -0500 From: "Claire HM" Subject: Claire's new web site I have this new little site up... It is neat, every week I will add to it. If you want to check out what I have been up to with my photography and computer edititing fun! check it out. thanks CLaire _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:21:58 -0500 From: "Claire HM" Subject: ok I am sorry seein all my excitement to tell every one that I have a new site... I failed to mention what the address was... here it is http://www.pandasphere.com/claire/new.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:55:11 -0500 From: "devilbird" Subject: Don't know if this was posted yet Long story short, I was at the WB site and saw this in their music section: http://wbnetwork.com/music/poe/ Just in case anyone missed it, I guess. :) devilbird ****************************************** Don't look back. Something may be gaining on you. ---Satchel Paige ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:56:26 -0500 From: "Rusty Shelby" Subject: "Hey Pretty" add on disc.. and more hey kids... earlier last week i wrote in and told you about the "hey pretty" remix disc that is being added on to exsisting copies of "haunted".... well i scanned the disc & artwork... MICHELE VR5 take note... and steal the image for the discography you can find it here: http://www.geocities.com/rustyshelby22/poeheyprettybonus.jpg also... a few other POE related things i scanned this past week... my contact sheet of photos i took at the 99x live x recording in 1996.. autogrpahed: http://www.geocities.com/rustyshelby22/POE.jpg my autopgrahed "haunted" cd & cover: http://www.geocities.com/rustyshelby22/POEauto.jpg my autogrpahed "don't be scared" cd covers: http://www.geocities.com/rustyshelby22/dontbescared1.jpg - front, mark autographed http://www.geocities.com/rustyshelby22/dontbescared2.jpg - back, poe autographed and of course all of this is in various forms on my website: http://www.rustyisdabomb.com or, without the obnoxious ad banner: http://www.geocities.com/rustyshelby22/home.html - -rusty agentorange2@mindspring.com = rusty@poe.org | http://www.rustyisdabomb.com ***************************************************************************** ********************************* Jennifer Nettles Band: http://www.jennifernettles.com | http://www.jennifernettlesband.com ***************************************************************************** ********************************* POE: "Haunted" the new album in stores now featuring the new single, "Hey Pretty". | http://www.p-o-e.com | http://www.buffybb.net/poe | ***************************************************************************** ********************************* Amanda Ghost: "Ghost Stories" album in stores now featuring the new single, "Idol" * and the single "Filthy Mind" as heard in the movie "Valentine". http://www.amandaghost.net | http://amandaghost.cjb.net/ ***************************************************************************** ********************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:09:09 -0500 From: "RICHARD I MIDGETTE" Subject: AP Info My name is Richard, I currently live in West Palm Beach, soon to be back home in New York state. I'm 40 yrs old and first heard Poe about 3 weeks ago through the expressfasion website. I was dying to hear more so I went to Borders and got Haunted. I listen to a variety of musicians/singers, both rock and pop, as well as country and classical. I can't stop listening to Poe and now I want to know everything I can about her. Hoping of course to never be satisfied. That wouldn't be fun. :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:08:17 -0500 From: KrayzeeJenJ@netscape.net (Jen J.) Subject: Re: ~* Poe at the Movies i heard walk the walk months ago in a store in columbus, at easton, not sure which store but there's no limited or express there so that's another one to add to the list!! - -<3- jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:18:11 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: NPR: High School Popularity In a message dated 3/26/01 2:43:50 AM, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: >we did school activities >like played basketball or were on drill team (this is past tense because >I >graduated last year and the "popular" thing ends when you graduate) And >we're >still the same now. We all still hang out. I don't know what makes "popular" > >kids different from "unpopular" kids. Correct. Popularity goes right out the window the day after you graduate. (What ya gonna do.... take your Popularity Certification Card with you to college and flash it to strangers as proof you are worthy of any other new fish in the sea?) But the problem with a LARGE number of "popular" kids is they mistakenly pick up this elitist attitude tht they ARE and will REMAIN above others. Now, 10 years later, I cannot even recall the faces of most of those kids, much less their names. (Though I did run into two of those girls at a street festival about 4 years ago. We were all drunk as skunks and when they reminded me who they were, I exclaimed, "Oh, I remember you! I HATED you!" Luckily, we were able to have a hearty laugh over it by that point in time.) The truth is, to any kids out there, high school popularity, despite how crucial it seems at the time, is a total joke. Do NOT let it over-affect you. Most of the time, it's the former nerds, geeks, dweebs, wallflowers, and assorted outsiders that truly make a name for themselves in the real world, because they didn't spend those 4 years trying to make themselves out to be the gods of the little world that was their high school. I mean, have fun, as best as you can within reason, but spend that tie trying to make yourself into a person well-prepared for what lies ahead. Do NOT make high school your end-all, be-all. I easily could have, but I'm SOOO glad I didn't. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:48:40 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: NPR: Memphis in May Since May is near, the Beale St. Music Fest list is out. I know this is probably a dumb thing to post on the list but if anyone is interested in going here's the line up... pretty interesting and diverse too. Sonic Youth, Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson, and George Clinton just to name a few... http://www.memphisinmay.org/Beale/Beale_Perf_2001.htm <~~~ no (l) ~*~ Fade, made the fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack ~*~ There is no power like my pretty power~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:01:29 EST From: Iamtheher4u@aol.com Subject: NPR: The whole high school thing... Ok, speaking as a person currently enrolled in high school and belong to neither the popular or the unpopular crowds, I just want to speak my part. Personally I hate it when the "unpopular" kids complain about crap... seriously, their lives aren't that bad, and if they are, they can only get better (that's my optimistic side talking). And the popular kids... even though I'm rarely or never the butt of their jokes (because I have a quick mouth and make them feel like idiots) I see how badly they treat people. Some of them, yes, are extremely nice and friendly, and those are the people I can truely dub popular because, everyone literally likes them. But one of my (ex)best friends... she's been pissing me off lately because she quit her job 3 weeks ago, and told me that she was all happy cuz we were gonna get to hang out more and do stuff, etc... sooo here i sit 3 weeks later and not one single phone call, and why? why is it that my best friend for 4 years suddenly has no time for me? because she suddenly became initiated to the popular crowd... it makes me sick. like for exaple, today, we were both walking to 4th period (we have the same class) and she just straigh up stops in midsentence and goes over and talks to her "popular" friends (granted, i like all of them and am friendly with them, its her that pisses me off), then she comes into 4th period talking about how cools its going to be when i get my liscense next week (i started behind the wheel today) cuz we can do this and that. And the whole time i'm thinking FUCK YOU BITCH, i'm not going to be your goddamn chauffeur and drive you around to all your popular friends parties. Of course i said none of this because i didnt want to make a scene infront of the class, but oooh is she gonna get a piece of my mind later... But anyway back to the main topic here... ok so the main reason the popular kids started talking to her was because she started wearing abercrombie, AE, and crap like that, when she used to where cool stuff that was unique, while I on the other hand still dress like i want to, and have not and will not conform to those clothes (personally i think their ugly... well not old navy... they have pretty orange stuff and i like orange). So me being part of neither crowd, even though i dont have many close friends, i still go out and have fun with the people i hang around, i dont care if they're popular or not, just as long as they can take me being me, that's all i ask. The popular crowd never really accepted me because i dress how i want, i'm really not pretty, and i'm not willing just to smile and go along with all their crap. Granted, i do make fun of people... a lot... but that's really only when they either are wearing something they shouldnt be (like fat people in tight clothes, that's just gross) or if i have something against them personally. But i'm not cruel about it, i just kind of say it to one of my friends and we giggle and thats it... its not like i'm going up to their faces and being all mean about... which i realize saying stuff behind their backs isnt any better... but sometimes talking behind peoples backs is better than telling them to their face... unless of course they're your friend... then they deserve to know... sorry for all that... i kinda got off the subject, but hopefully my point got through. Tessa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:26:50 EST From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: High School Popularity well said kori..I couldn't have said it better myself. I haven't even been out of high school two years and I realized immediately it was a big joke. Everyone knows for the most part the "In In Crowd" are a bunch of assholes who feel the need to be regarded as cool because they're just insecure and/or shallow. mmmmm Jill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:40:40 -0800 From: "A. Stephen Apsley" Subject: Re: NPR: High School Popularity hating people simply because they are popular is about the most ridiculous thing that i've ever heard of. i wouldn't go so far as to call myself popular, but if you're cliquey at any level, you're just as bad as the so-called "in-crowd". it doesn't matter if you are included in any social circles or not. what matters is whether you're willing to accept others into your fold and befriend them. i know you may feel that i'm over-simplifying the matter, but i was just in high school, and if you're nice enough, you'll have no trouble getting friends. this bashing of "popular" people has really got to stop, because they aren't the ones causing the trouble, k? get over it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:42:10 EST From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: another radio list....Drop kick murphys?? What the hell kind of magical land do you live in where DKM and NFG are on the top ten? NFG is makin it here though, yay! I'm going east coast.... Megan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:43:11 EST From: GloryBox84@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: The whole high school thing... First of all... Music Related: Does anyone like the Sugarcubes?? They just came to mind because I saw them on TV last night (obviously an old show) and no one that I know of has yet mentioned them on the list. People are only 'popular' because they decide to be. So if someone wants to be popular they should just assume that he/she is. In order for everyone to keep discussing this I think everyone should clarify their definition of "popular". People at my school have shown me that being "popular" is making every aspect of their social lives known to everyone. If I were concerned with being popular I'd just talk about how badly I'd behaved over the weekend (whether or not its true). Its funny... This kind of person thinks that just because everyone isn't coming to school talking about how much and how often they smoke a pot that they're not doing it. If they were so great maybe they wouldn't have to show off (especially when its something about which they're obviously lying). - - --Kim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:48:08 EST From: Tarotfeather@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: High School Popularity Exactly!! I am in my last torturous year of high school and I understood that it was a "big joke" even before I was actually in it! (my middle school years were when I realized "Hey, this is the same hell I'll have to endure untill I'm 18, so I might as well be myself and not bother to try fitting in.") Now let me say I come in peace!! I don't wish to offend anyone with my opinions or beliefs! Lets look at it this way - All the geeks grow up to be the coolest people!! How many prom queens become rock stars? Not many. The quarterbacks and cheerleaders of high schools today breed the trailer trash sluts of tomorrow. I belong to an after school group called Writer's Block where song writers and poets - the people who basically are the misfits and don't fit into the square holes cut out for them - and it is filled with some of the most talented young writers (my friend Jess for instance!) and these are the people that are going to make an impact on the world in the future, not the "jocks" and "popular crowd." Again - Just stating what I've seen! - - Amber ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:03:04 -0800 From: "Mike Brame" Subject: Re: NPR: High School Popularity Speaking of being a geek in high school... At Comdex a couple years ago, I saw a guy wearing a shirt that said: "'Geek' used to be a four letter word, now it's a six figure word." I like that... Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:21:42 -0800 From: Sandra Guzman Subject: ONE THING IN COMMON... Most of the Geeks I knew in H.S..are now at Harvard, Yale, Cornell and doing great stuff with their lives...Whilw the Jocks, and Cheerleaders and Prom Queen(s) & King(s) now work as local mall "Make-up Girls" and Pizza Hut Managers..... BTW if anyone looking at this is a pizza hut manager or a make-up girl no insult intended..just trying to make a point here.... ;) BTW I myslef was a geek.....HOOOOORAY FOR ALL GEEKS!!!!!!!!! At least all the geeks and "popular" people in this place have one thing in common..... GREAT FREAKIN' TASTE IN MUSIC!!!!!!!!! GO POEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sandra-D... - -----Original Message----- From: Mike Brame [mailto:mike_brame@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 5:03 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR: High School Popularity Speaking of being a geek in high school... At Comdex a couple years ago, I saw a guy wearing a shirt that said: "'Geek' used to be a four letter word, now it's a six figure word." I like that... Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:20:32 EST From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: High School Popularity Same complaints over and over again.... "Don't stereotype me...." Then everyone goes on to say "cheerleaders just have trailer trash slut kids..." I don't know what planet your from but the kids I hung out with didn't do drugs AT ALL! And we still don't. We don't sleep around. 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L.A. http://www.kroq.com/yahoo/yahoo.html 1-800-520-1067 requests@kroq.com #### ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:23:23 -0700 From: "Gregg Kern" Subject: RE: NPR: High School Popularity A. Stephen Apsley wrote: > hating people simply because they are popular is about the most > ridiculous > thing that i've ever heard of. You need to get out more then. There's a whole universe of untapped ridiculousness that you have missed out on. > i wouldn't go so far as to call myself > popular, but if you're cliquey at any level, you're just as bad as the > so-called "in-crowd". No. Smaller groups form cliques as a way to seek some validation and companionship that is denied them by the majority. Larger, mainstream groups form cliques as a means of hurting those who aren't a part of the collective. One is morally superior to the other. > it doesn't matter if you are included in any social > circles or not. And those with plenty to eat don't see starvation as a problem. > what matters is whether you're willing to accept others > into your fold and befriend them. i know you may feel that i'm > over-simplifying the matter, You are. > but i was just in high school, and if you're > nice enough, you'll have no trouble getting friends. Ha. I'm sorry that wasn't very constructive of me. Ha. Ha. > this bashing of "popular" people has really got to stop, because they > aren't the ones causing the trouble, k? But they certainly aren't part of the solution. Especially when all they can say to the complaints is: > get over it. Ah...the constant refrain of the Haves to the Have-nots. "Let them eat cake" indeed. - -- "Frankly, Vampire players who think www.angelfire.com/az/pariahic they're really Vampires don't scare ICQ:879171 me nearly as much as the ones who Pariahic think they're poets." -S. John Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:37:10 -0800 From: "A. Stephen Apsley" Subject: RE: NPR: High School Popularity Perhaps, mr. kern, you're bitter about how screwed up your life has been and sought refuge in tearing apart my statement. no problem there, just try to realize that it was only in relation to HIGH SCHOOL CLIQUES...not life afterwards. and i don't think ripping people over an email list is the way to go about fixing any problems....except for the problem of people whining over said email list. From: "Gregg Kern" To: Subject: RE: NPR: High School Popularity Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:23:23 -0700 A. Stephen Apsley wrote: > hating people simply because they are popular is about the most > ridiculous > thing that i've ever heard of. You need to get out more then. There's a whole universe of untapped ridiculousness that you have missed out on. > i wouldn't go so far as to call myself > popular, but if you're cliquey at any level, you're just as bad as the > so-called "in-crowd". No. Smaller groups form cliques as a way to seek some validation and companionship that is denied them by the majority. Larger, mainstream groups form cliques as a means of hurting those who aren't a part of the collective. One is morally superior to the other. > it doesn't matter if you are included in any social > circles or not. And those with plenty to eat don't see starvation as a problem. > what matters is whether you're willing to accept others > into your fold and befriend them. i know you may feel that i'm > over-simplifying the matter, You are. > but i was just in high school, and if you're > nice enough, you'll have no trouble getting friends. Ha. I'm sorry that wasn't very constructive of me. Ha. Ha. > this bashing of "popular" people has really got to stop, because they > aren't the ones causing the trouble, k? But they certainly aren't part of the solution. Especially when all they can say to the complaints is: > get over it. Ah...the constant refrain of the Haves to the Have-nots. "Let them eat cake" indeed. - -- "Frankly, Vampire players who think www.angelfire.com/az/pariahic they're really Vampires don't scare ICQ:879171 me nearly as much as the ones who Pariahic think they're poets." -S. John Ross _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #108 ***********************************