From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #64 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Wednesday, February 14 2001 Volume 06 : Number 064 Today's Subjects: ----------------- CD prices ["Jason Muncy" ] Re: CD prices npr ["Kyle" ] Re: CD prices [KoriG@aol.com] Re: CD prices npr ["Tim Dube" ] NPR RE: CD prices npr ["SteVisOK" ] Re: CD prices ["Anfrey Cheng" ] new APs [Davey08@aol.com] Re: new APs ["Anfrey Cheng" ] Re: new APs [KoriG@aol.com] Re: Napster issue [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] Re: CD prices [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: CD prices npr [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Napster Blah Blah ["Debian Linux" ] Re: CD prices npr ["MELISSA STEWARD" ] Re: CD prices/fast food npr [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] Re: CD prices/fast food npr ["MELISSA STEWARD" ] Re: CD prices/fast food npr ["Tom Proven" ] NPR RE: CD prices ["SteVisOK" ] NPR Re: CD prices/fast food [tearinhand ] Re: CD prices npr ["Lee Wang 444" ] mp3.com (was: CD prices) enpee are ["Lee Wang 444" ] Re: CD prices/fast food npr ["MELISSA STEWARD" ] Re: NPR RE: CD prices ["Mike Brame" ] Re: mp3.com (was: CD prices) enpee are ["Anfrey Cheng" ] Switchblade Symphony [Jeska377@aol.com] Re: NPR: Napster [LivTheMdns@aol.com] NPR [XxObLiViOuZxX@aol.com] Re: Napster Blah Blah ["Anthony Bender" ] Don't forget Poe on Oxyge TONIGHT!!!!! [Dan98908@aol.com] hey pretty on whfs AGAIN ["Wheeler, Justin" ] Re: Don't forget Poe on Oxygen TONIGHT!!!!! [Tarotfeather@aol.com] Featurette --- MP3 ATM's coming soon! (NPR) [JR ] Re: Napster must die (and reborn like the Phoenix...) [GloryBox84@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:37:26 From: "Jason Muncy" Subject: CD prices I do not know where everyone is coming from with their complaints about current CD prices. Did everyone on this list just purchase a CD player in the past 3 years? I have used CDs since 1987 and remember them costing $18-25 or even more at times and people bought them and didn't complain. Sure Best Buy started selling stuff in bulk and some prices did drop to $10-12 and people got some good deals, but the fact of the matter is that if you have used the format for a long time, the current prices are still cheaper than they were initially and you see it is still a good deal. As far as I am concerned, $16 is still a good deal for the quality I get. So is $25 too much to also pay for a DVD, despite its quality? Maybe I should start saving for a $3000 DVD burner for my system so I can start dubbing those from the video store.. I promise I am just sharing the movies. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:04:01 -0800 From: "Kyle" Subject: Re: CD prices npr where does the money go? over time the cost of CD pruduction has gone down significantly as has the cost of cd players. Anybody can burn their own cd's at the cost of $150 for a burner and about 25 cents per disk. The recording industry has failed to adapt their prices as the technology has changed. Instead of moving along with the times they have attempted to freeze them. The courts can only protect them for so long, after that they will have to adapt or be replaced. kyle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Muncy" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:37 AM Subject: CD prices > > I do not know where everyone is coming from with their complaints about > current CD prices. Did everyone on this list just purchase a CD player in > the past 3 years? I have used CDs since 1987 and remember them costing > $18-25 or even more at times and people bought them and didn't complain. > Sure Best Buy started selling stuff in bulk and some prices did drop to > $10-12 and people got some good deals, but the fact of the matter is that if > you have used the format for a long time, the current prices are still > cheaper than they were initially and you see it is still a good deal. As far > as I am concerned, $16 is still a good deal for the quality I get. > So is $25 too much to also pay for a DVD, despite its quality? Maybe I > should start saving for a $3000 DVD burner for my system so I can start > dubbing those from the video store.. I promise I am just sharing the movies. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:22:17 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: CD prices In a message dated 2/14/01 5:10:12 AM, jmuncy@hotmail.com writes: >As far >as I am concerned, $16 is still a good deal for the quality I get. My problem with CDs at first was having to switch to yet another format standard, which is a costly endevor, no matter how much they are charging for each unit. And the biggest selling points they were pushing? "They are so sturdy!" and "They never wear out!" Even though I have been a serious music enthusiest nearly all my life, I had to be realistic. What percentage of my music that I bought would I still want to hear on a regular basis 10 or 15 years later? There's only so many Beatles or Pearl Jams or U2s in my music realm. A good fourth of my CDs haven't even been touched in the last 5 years, at least, much less played. And if I was to try to sell them, I wouldn't get jack shit, because no one wants them any more than I do. It's bad enough I'm stuck with a ton of cassettes I nor anyone else really wants, but I hate to just THROW them away.... but to be stuck with a ton of CDs as well. But my main problem has always been the percentage labels take anyways. Screw the hell out of the artist, even the biggest of them. GO INDIE. OK, so you may sell significantly less units, but if you're worried about your wallet at the end of the day, the fact that you actually GOT some sort of profit margin can often put you ahead of the game. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:37:51 -0800 From: "Tim Dube" Subject: Re: CD prices npr Next time anyone pays $16 for a cd or whatever price you happen to find take note that the average cd costs a record company $2.50-3.00 to make and that is with a big full color inlay card! Thank you drive through. dubious - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Kyle" To: "Jason Muncy" , Subject: Re: CD prices npr Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:04:01 -0800 where does the money go? over time the cost of CD pruduction has gone down significantly as has the cost of cd players. Anybody can burn their own cd's at the cost of $150 for a burner and about 25 cents per disk. The recording industry has failed to adapt their prices as the technology has changed. Instead of moving along with the times they have attempted to freeze them. The courts can only protect them for so long, after that they will have to adapt or be replaced. kyle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Muncy" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:37 AM Subject: CD prices > > I do not know where everyone is coming from with their complaints about > current CD prices. Did everyone on this list just purchase a CD player in > the past 3 years? I have used CDs since 1987 and remember them costing > $18-25 or even more at times and people bought them and didn't complain. > Sure Best Buy started selling stuff in bulk and some prices did drop to > $10-12 and people got some good deals, but the fact of the matter is that if > you have used the format for a long time, the current prices are still > cheaper than they were initially and you see it is still a good deal. As far > as I am concerned, $16 is still a good deal for the quality I get. > So is $25 too much to also pay for a DVD, despite its quality? Maybe I > should start saving for a $3000 DVD burner for my system so I can start > dubbing those from the video store.. I promise I am just sharing the movies. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:23:59 -0500 From: "SteVisOK" Subject: NPR RE: CD prices npr Not to mention that when CD's were first being manufactured, {right after the dark ages of 8-tracks more or less :-) }, the production cost od CDS's compared to vinyl was much lower, yet, even at the get go, CD's retailed for more than vinyl. SteVe << over time the cost of CD pruduction has gone down significantly as has the cost of cd players.>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:55:45 -0500 From: "Anfrey Cheng" Subject: Re: CD prices > years later? There's only so many Beatles or Pearl Jams or U2s in my music > realm. A good fourth of my CDs haven't even been touched in the last 5 years, > at least, much less played. And if I was to try to sell them, I wouldn't get > jack shit, because no one wants them any more than I do. It's bad enough I'm > stuck with a ton of cassettes I nor anyone else really wants, but I hate to > just THROW them away.... but to be stuck with a ton of CDs as well. what one perceives as garbage... might be perceived as treasure by others. peace, anf PS: i plan to listen to the music i listen to know in the next 15-20 years, if not longer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:23:54 EST From: Davey08@aol.com Subject: new APs I was just thinking the other day. A lot of the new joiners only know Poe from her recent album, Haunted. Since those of us who know her from her album Hello are called Angry Psychos, shouldn't the new ones who know her from Haunted be called something else? I was thinking about something along the lines of "Terrified Virgins." Dave Dave@poe.org Davey08@aol.com zampanosdead@davidsmail.com compjuxlight@hotmail.com [_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_] "Dans la maison, l'obscuriti me consommera." (In the House, the darkness will consume me.) [_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_] "Si je dicidais de vous faire ma religion je pense que Dieu serait gentil" (If I decided to make you my religion I think God would be kind.) [_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_] http://www.geocities.com/run_rom_run/ http://www.geocities.com/run_rom_run/nextous/nextous.html http://alphamix.50megs.com/ [_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_][_] "Ces mots vous effrayent-ils?" ("Do these words frighten you?") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:41:14 -0500 From: "Anfrey Cheng" Subject: Re: new APs > I was thinking about something along the lines of "Terrified Virgins." roflmao!!!! actually, roflmfao =D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:42:33 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: new APs In a message dated 2/14/01 11:39:58 AM, Davey08@aol.com writes: >I was just thinking the other day. A lot of the new joiners only know >Poe >from her recent album, Haunted. Since those of us who know her from her >album Hello are called Angry Psychos, shouldn't the new ones who know her >from Haunted be called something else? I was thinking about something >along >the lines of "Terrified Virgins." Or "Haunted Virgins", or "Pretty Virgins" : ) Great idea! Seriously! If "newbies" want a more precise way of introducing themselves, so that they don't have to explain over and over that they didn't get on the bus until the second album, then that term could be applied. No section of fans is better than the other one, but there are distinct differences in how they came to know Poe, what it was that first attracted them to her, etc. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:03:51 EST From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: Napster issue Most things I dl off of Napster are from cds I would never buy in the first place. They're songs I can just as easily get off the radio or from a friend. Except POE I dl'ed her cd way before it came out and then bought the cd. Megan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:15:38 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: CD prices In a message dated 2/14/2001 4:10:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmuncy@hotmail.com writes: > As far > as I am concerned, $16 is still a good deal for the quality I get. > So is $25 too much to also pay for a DVD, despite its quality? Maybe I > should start saving for a $3000 DVD burner for my system so I can start > dubbing those from the video store.. I promise I am just sharing the movies. > _________________________________________________________________ Check out the prices on CDs from MP3.com next time you are there. I just got a compilation cd by one of my favorite groups for like $7. Also, you can get a Firewire DVD RAM drive for $600 to $700 depending on where you get it. An internal one would undoubtedly be much cheaper. With a DVD RAM drive you can read CD Rom, CD/R, CD/RW, DVD, DVD/R, as well as read and write DVD RAM (the DVD version oif CD/RW) and DVD/R...that is a 5.2 gig disk...or something close to that. You can burn DVD quality movies or just stuff the thing with regular files, MP3s, .wav music...anything you want. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:16:43 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: CD prices npr In a message dated 2/14/2001 5:24:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, kbeckley@ucla.edu writes: > Anybody can burn their own cd's at the cost of $150 for > a burner Actually, remanufactured ones are under a hundred bucks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:18:00 From: "Debian Linux" Subject: Re: Napster Blah Blah I just want to point out that my original post did not SAY that Napster had been shut down. the only thing that will keep them from getting shutdown is enough people demanding that what Napster (The Company) is doing IS legal. i was merely providing this list with the link to mail your representatives and then a nice letter which you can edit to send. Note, in the letter I do not commend theft, what I support is that Napster (The company) does nothing wrong. so leave napster alone. A perfect comparison might be EBAY. People get ripped off on Ebay all the time, despite Ebay's best efforts. It is NOT ebay's responsibility to insure you don't get ripped. Thus Ebay is a FORUM, so is Napster. It is a FORUM, people... it is within this FORUM that people must govern themselves. and the government fucking hates it when we govern ourselves. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:15:15 -0800 From: "MELISSA STEWARD" Subject: Re: CD prices npr Hmmm...speaking of "drive through", if you think about it $16 for a CD is like three lunches from McDonalds. Ponder that for a bit... Melissa >From: "Tim Dube" >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: CD prices npr >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:37:51 -0800 > > >Next time anyone pays $16 for a cd or whatever price you happen to >find take >note that the average cd costs a record company $2.50-3.00 to make >and that >is with a big full color inlay card! Thank you drive through. > >dubious > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:28:57 EST From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: CD prices/fast food npr Hmmm, I did ponder it and I'm holding fast food places responsible for the downfall of the U.S. of A. (if that ever happens) One extra value meal from McDonalds has MORE than the amount of calories you need in an ENTIRE DAY! Which is why 2/3 of this country is overweight. Ponder that!!!!!! Megan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:38:47 -0800 From: "MELISSA STEWARD" Subject: Re: CD prices/fast food npr Lucky I'm part of the 1/3 that aren't [IMAGE] Thanks to my ultrafast metabolism. Hey, when you have kids you will be thankful for "fast" food of any kind on the nights when you are out of time and still have a little mouth to feed. I only agree with it if it's not an every week occurrence but there's nothing like french fries to bring a smile to a child's face. From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: CD prices/fast food npr >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:28:57 EST > > >Hmmm, I did ponder it and I'm holding fast food places responsible for the >downfall of the U.S. of A. (if that ever happens) One extra value meal from >McDonalds has MORE than the amount of calories you need in an ENTIRE DAY! >Which is why 2/3 of this country is overweight. Ponder that!!!!!! >Megan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:37:31 -0500 From: "Tom Proven" Subject: Re: CD prices/fast food npr I think you mean Quarter Ponder that.... OUCH! Tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: Re: CD prices/fast food npr > > Hmmm, I did ponder it and I'm holding fast food places responsible for the > downfall of the U.S. of A. (if that ever happens) One extra value meal from > McDonalds has MORE than the amount of calories you need in an ENTIRE DAY! > Which is why 2/3 of this country is overweight. Ponder that!!!!!! > Megan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:46:32 -0500 From: "SteVisOK" Subject: NPR RE: CD prices On the DVD burner topic - I shelled out for a portable mini-disc recorder a couple yeards back for work - interviews - with the expectation that I could do the interview w/full digital quality then upload the work to my computer for backup/filing/burn to CD etc. But - aparently mini-discs have 1-way digital processing - digital from CPU down ot mini disk but not back 'cause the manufacturers built to a standard of preventing people ripping form CD to minidisc & burning back up to CD. So, I'm stuck with an analog copy of all my interviews. Does anyone know 'bout availabilty of portable DVD recorders that I can take into the field to replace my ill-gained minidisc? SteVe - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of KrodKnid@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:16 PM To: jmuncy@hotmail.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: CD prices In a message dated 2/14/2001 4:10:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmuncy@hotmail.com writes: > As far > as I am concerned, $16 is still a good deal for the quality I get. > So is $25 too much to also pay for a DVD, despite its quality? Maybe I > should start saving for a $3000 DVD burner for my system so I can start > dubbing those from the video store.. I promise I am just sharing the movies. > _________________________________________________________________ Check out the prices on CDs from MP3.com next time you are there. I just got a compilation cd by one of my favorite groups for like $7. Also, you can get a Firewire DVD RAM drive for $600 to $700 depending on where you get it. An internal one would undoubtedly be much cheaper. With a DVD RAM drive you can read CD Rom, CD/R, CD/RW, DVD, DVD/R, as well as read and write DVD RAM (the DVD version oif CD/RW) and DVD/R...that is a 5.2 gig disk...or something close to that. You can burn DVD quality movies or just stuff the thing with regular files, MP3s, .wav music...anything you want. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:48:27 -0800 (PST) From: tearinhand Subject: NPR Re: CD prices/fast food - --- EMOKidsSmell@aol.com wrote: > > Hmmm, I did ponder it and I'm holding fast food > places responsible for the > downfall of the U.S. of A. (if that ever happens) > One extra value meal from > McDonalds has MORE than the amount of calories you > need in an ENTIRE DAY! > Which is why 2/3 of this country is overweight. > Ponder that!!!!!! > Megan so does that mean that if I only eat a Macdonalds meal all day that calorie wise i'm ok for the day hmmmm Sara ===== "I'm not a habit, I'm a lifestyle. I will not be a habit for a man. Ever." ~Tori Amos~ "i descend from grace in arms of undertow i will take my place in the great below." -Trent Reznor, The Great Below- http://www.crosswinds.net/~tearinhand99/entry.html ~A Girl and Her Piano~ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:12:37 -0800 From: "Lee Wang 444" Subject: Re: CD prices npr Of course, if you think that McDonald's brand horsemeat is what you'd call a meal... Nothing but gourmet burgers for me! :) >Hmmm...speaking of "drive through", if you think about it $16 for a CD is >like three lunches from McDonalds. > >Ponder that for a bit... > >Melissa rambling always Lee Storm sees me dyin he dont feel nuthin. "Do your dreams come true?" "I haven't had a nice dream for years." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:15:32 -0800 From: "Lee Wang 444" Subject: mp3.com (was: CD prices) enpee are I was under the impression that the CDs you get off mp3.com aren't regular audio cds, but DAM cds that just have mp3s burned onto them. Ciao-abunga rambling always Lee Storm sees me dyin he dont feel nuthin. "Do your dreams come true?" "I haven't had a nice dream for years." >Check out the prices on CDs from MP3.com next time you are there. I just >got >a compilation cd by one of my favorite groups for like $7. Also, you can >get >a Firewire DVD RAM drive for $600 to $700 depending on where you get it. An >internal one would undoubtedly be much cheaper. With a DVD RAM drive you >can >read CD Rom, CD/R, CD/RW, DVD, DVD/R, as well as read and write DVD RAM >(the >DVD version oif CD/RW) and DVD/R...that is a 5.2 gig disk...or something >close to that. You can burn DVD quality movies or just stuff the thing with >regular files, MP3s, .wav music...anything you want. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:17:32 From: "Debian Linux" Subject: Re: Napster/Privileges high-school and real life are two different arenas. you've been programmed quite nicely i see. in real life, privileges aren't taken away from everyone because somebody else abuses it. the abusing person is punished. period. We are living in a world where our government wants to control every facet of our lives, so I hang onto every "privilege" as though it were sacred. when we lose this privilege, we have set a real precedent for the internet. BTW, our legal system is almost entirely built on precedents. There is a first-time ruling for everything. Think Roe-Vs-Wade. From that point on, a ruling was made and all other rulings are quantified from the precedent. catch my drift. Napster is not illegal. Now what people do on napster may be construed as illegal. Well, the damn internet as a whole is not illegal, but what people do within it can be categorized as illegal. Napster is not a goddamn privilege. It's a fucking free forum for people to share files on their computers. By that right it leaves each person to decide whether or not to break the law. So, you want to take away my right to choose whether or not i break the law? why not just forbid me access to the internet. On the whole, it's the same concept. By any concept, the fact remains that Napster, the company, does nothing wrong. Therefore don't let the government take them out. they need to be more creative than that! BTW, you want to know why the whole Napster thing is still up in the Air? because people with money are wanting it gone, but the massive majority of people obviously use it and don't want it gone. the government is at a catch-22. they can't take from the majority what the majority expresses that it wants, unless it wants to come out declare itself fascist. so, the whole thing is in the air because it literally is a polling contest. it's us versus corporate RIIA. I don't want my rights taken away if i don't abuse them. so therefore, I demand my voice be heard by writing to my senators/representatives. if people are stupid enough to bullied into losing their "privileges" then I too will be forced to lose mine. and once that precedent is set it gives our government great leeway for seting more laws governing the internet. we don't want that. the internet is a true free-market system at work, let's fight to keep it that way. <<<>>>>> Hmmm...on this whole Napster deal I just have one itsy bitsy comment:It was a privilege...and like with all great privileges there's alwayssomeone who abuses it and it gets taken away.I'll use this example since there are alot of high school age AP's and thisstory comes to mind: It's like in high school when the girls and guys cansit together on the bus....then two of them get caught kissing or somethingin the back seat and the privilege gets revoked. Girls on one side...boyson the other (aaww.. the memories :-P). Or maybe that sorta thing onlyhappened in small towns?Anyhow, you get my point.Thanks for listenin! <<<>>>>> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:27:39 -0800 From: "MELISSA STEWARD" Subject: Re: CD prices/fast food npr Ohmygod, you are hilarious! That was so cute....and I'm being sincere here. Happy Valentines' Day everyone, by the way [IMAGE][IMAGE] Melissa >From: "Tom Proven" >Reply-To: "Tom Proven" >To: >Subject: Re: CD prices/fast food npr >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:37:31 -0500 > >I think you mean Quarter Ponder that.... >OUCH! >Tom > >----- Original Message - ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:28 PM >Subject: Re: CD prices/fast food npr > > > > > > Hmmm, I did ponder it and I'm holding fast food places responsible >for the > > downfall of the U.S. of A. (if that ever happens) One extra value >meal from > > McDonalds has MORE than the amount of calories you need in an ENTIRE >DAY! > > Which is why 2/3 of this country is overweight. Ponder that!!!!!! > > Megan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:43:02 -0800 From: "Mike Brame" Subject: Re: NPR RE: CD prices Hey Steve, A friend of mine ran into the same problem when he bought his MD recorder for recording live shows we go to. His solution was to pick up an old "home" MD unit, the older home units had a digital out. Mind you, the new ones do not, but you can find the older ones on ebay and such. If you'd like, I can give you the model number of the one my friend got. It's a cheaper solution than the DVD burner, and you can still use your smaller MD for recording in the field. Cheers, Mike >From: "SteVisOK" >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: NPR RE: CD prices >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:46:32 -0500 > > >On the DVD burner topic - I shelled out for a portable mini-disc recorder a >couple yeards back for work - interviews - with the expectation that I >could >do the interview w/full digital quality then upload the work to my computer >for backup/filing/burn to CD etc. > >But - aparently mini-discs have 1-way digital processing - digital from CPU >down ot mini disk but not back 'cause the manufacturers built to a standard >of preventing people ripping form CD to minidisc & burning back up to CD. > >So, I'm stuck with an analog copy of all my interviews. > >Does anyone know 'bout availabilty of portable DVD recorders that I can >take >into the field to replace my ill-gained minidisc? > >SteVe > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:52:10 -0500 From: "Anfrey Cheng" Subject: Re: mp3.com (was: CD prices) enpee are i believe the CDs from mp3.com are hybrid compact discs and have both mp3s and cd audio on them. peace, aNf - ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Wang 444 To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 16:15 Subject: mp3.com (was: CD prices) enpee are > > I was under the impression that the CDs you get off mp3.com aren't regular > audio cds, but DAM cds that just have mp3s burned onto them. > > Ciao-abunga > rambling always > Lee > Storm sees me dyin > > he dont feel > nuthin. > > "Do your dreams come true?" > "I haven't had a nice dream for years." > > > >Check out the prices on CDs from MP3.com next time you are there. I just > >got > >a compilation cd by one of my favorite groups for like $7. Also, you can > >get > >a Firewire DVD RAM drive for $600 to $700 depending on where you get it. An > >internal one would undoubtedly be much cheaper. With a DVD RAM drive you > >can > >read CD Rom, CD/R, CD/RW, DVD, DVD/R, as well as read and write DVD RAM > >(the > >DVD version oif CD/RW) and DVD/R...that is a 5.2 gig disk...or something > >close to that. You can burn DVD quality movies or just stuff the thing with > >regular files, MP3s, .wav music...anything you want. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:15:26 From: "Debian Linux" Subject: Re: Napster Blah Blah i stated that you are programmed specifically for this reason. it was not a personal attack on you. it was more of an observation that what we experience in high-school should carry over to real life. IMHO, the way I was treated in high-school was bullshit but i didn't have anyway to change high-school politics. in real life I do. and yes I did spark the whole men vs women debate. and i got to stick my foot in my mouth because i took offense to someone else's posts out of context, but I STARTED the whole napster thread thank you. and note that i started simply by providing a method for you people to stand up for the rights that are soon to be taken away. just because i ate my words in the past doesn't mean I'm wrong now.sorry. i won't try to help or inform any more. <>> I've been programmed? You know this whole list just pisses me off sometimes, do any of you have lives that exist outside the computer? I swear the majority of the people that post - do it all day long, continualy making "their voice heard". Whenever one of us "quiet" ones make a comment *BOOM* the "loud" ones jump all over us like we are trying to start a war or something. I don't have a computer at home, therefore I have never even used Napster or seen it used by someone else. I was just giving my own opinion on the subject, like the rest of you like to do, and didn't mean to offend anyone. I don't remember saying that I just sit back and let privileges get taken away from me. Talk about putting words in other people's mouths. Wasn't it you that started the women vs. men flame?? Geesh buddy, who peed in your cheerios? I completely resent your attitude towards me when you have no idea who I am or what I am about. You might even be a little regretful for saying those things if you ever meet me. Peace Melissa <<<<>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:35:36 EST From: Jeska377@aol.com Subject: Switchblade Symphony Any Switchblade Symphony fans out there? I was just interested in what the names of all their CD's are, if anyone knows, thanks a bunch Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:38:01 EST From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Napster In a message dated 2/13/01 11:41:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: > Free enterprise capitalism (lais > sez faire means "let the people do what they choose"...more or less) began > to > erode away some time in the middle of the 19th century and was really dealt > a > serious blow in the USA with the advent of personal income tax in the early > 20th century. Nowdays you practically can't take a crap without getting > permission from some sort of crap regulating body and paying a crap > fee...this situation sucks out loud. It used to be that anyone could set up > any kind of business they wanted and pocket all the profits without > intervention or taxation by the feds or the state, who made their money > primarily from import duties and property taxes and such. You didn't need a > And you hear about all those people who were up at the top of the food chain and living off the fat of the land. The meat packing industry is a perfect example, they were flying high, business was booming and out of control. The government did not involve themselves in the industry's affairs and the industry did just fine. All the workers were well paid and all the meat was of top quality. The plants were as safe as they have ever been. Also, you should have tried the sausage, Dr. Lechter gives it two thumbs up. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:42:22 EST From: XxObLiViOuZxX@aol.com Subject: NPR Hey I hardly ever say anything on the list but I am in a very happy mood so I figured I would tell everyone HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY! Oh and while I am in the typing mood Imma go ahead and say that Napster is a good way to learn about bew artists and listen to some songs before we go out and waste our money on the CD. If we don't like the song as much as we think we do then we aren't taking money out of our pockets to pay for it. BUT on the other hand we are kind of stealing in a way. I mean you don't go to the store and "share" a CD by just taking it and walking out without paying. Well I don' t have much to say so Buh Bye everyone! (`'7.8(`'7.8*$*8.7'4) 8. 7'4) +4(`7..$ * Daniela * $..74(`; (8.7'4(8.7'4*$*`'7 .8)`'7.8) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:51:48 -0600 From: "Anthony Bender" Subject: Re: Napster Blah Blah "Why can't we all get along?". - Rodney King - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debian Linux" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Napster Blah Blah > > i stated that you are programmed specifically for this reason. it was not a > personal attack on you. it was more of an observation that what we > experience in high-school should carry over to real life. IMHO, the way I > was treated in high-school was bullshit but i didn't have anyway to change > high-school politics. in real life I do. and yes I did spark the whole men > vs women debate. and i got to stick my foot in my mouth because i took > offense to someone else's posts out of context, but I STARTED the whole > napster thread thank you. and note that i started simply by providing a > method for you people to stand up for the rights that are soon to be taken > away. just because i ate my words in the past doesn't mean I'm wrong > now.sorry. i won't try to help or inform any more. > > <>> > I've been programmed? > > You know this whole list just pisses me off sometimes, do any of you have > lives that exist outside the computer? I swear the majority of the people > that post - do it all day long, continualy making "their voice heard". > Whenever one of us "quiet" ones make a comment *BOOM* the "loud" ones jump > all over us like we are trying to start a war or something. I don't have a > computer at home, therefore I have never even used Napster or seen it used > by someone else. I was just giving my own opinion on the subject, like the > rest of you like to do, and didn't mean to offend anyone. I don't remember > saying that I just sit back and let privileges get taken away from me. Talk > about putting words in other people's mouths. Wasn't it you that started > the women vs. men flame?? Geesh buddy, who peed in your cheerios? > > I completely resent your attitude towards me when you have no idea who I am > or what I am about. You might even be a little regretful for saying those > things if you ever meet me. > > Peace > Melissa > <<<<>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:57:36 EST From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Don't forget Poe on Oxyge TONIGHT!!!!! 8:00 PM on the Oxygen network. Poe starts in the third segment, after the architect ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:02:26 -0500 From: "Wheeler, Justin" Subject: hey pretty on whfs AGAIN They are playing her on early withdrawl again. Tim Virgin must really like this song or our calling has helped. I know I have called and emailed alot. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:02:24 EST From: Tarotfeather@aol.com Subject: Re: Don't forget Poe on Oxygen TONIGHT!!!!! I know someone out there is taping this... Please, fello psychos! This is a plea for help!! I would kill to see Poe on oxygen tonight but I don't get that network and, while I know people who do, my family won't let me out on Valentine's day. If anyone is taping this, and is willing to make a copy for me (I'd pay for the tape and shipping and everything), could you please e-mail me? Thanks in advance. - - Amber ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:12:17 -0800 (PST) From: JR Subject: Featurette --- MP3 ATM's coming soon! (NPR) Hello, As I've pointed out to many of you in personal responses, Whether you want to admit it or not, MP3 IS REPLACING CD. Deal with it, accept it, and love it...because it's SOOOOOOOOOOoooooo much cooler. I'd like to quote Popular science for a very cool article they published in the January issue regarding MP3 "ATMs"...any of you who live in Boston may have already seen these in your local record store. I can't wait until they are here in Miami. Read on: - ------------------------------------------- Are you ready to experience the future of digital music? Get ready for MUSICTELLER! MUSICTELLER has recently launched in select music stores in the Boston area. Now music fans can use this first-generation direct-to-device digital audio delivery system. No computer or CD-burning is needed. Membership at www.musicteller.com provides added value to the teller experience. Members can retrieve songs again and again  because they are stored in a personal music locker  right here. So the music that you get from MUSICTELLER can be downloaded over and over from www.musicteller.com. - ------------------------------------------- Now, THAT is what I'm talking about!!! Regards, Jason -roto- Reuka New AP (but poe fan for years!!!) Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:14:44 EST From: GloryBox84@aol.com Subject: Re: Napster must die (and reborn like the Phoenix...) In a message dated 2/13/2001 10:33:38 PM Central Standard Time, stephen@xiveren.com writes: > I don't care about Metallica losing profits as much as the emerging artists > But as someone has said before, there is no evidence of anyone's profits DECREASING, and the industry in general is thriving (profit-wise, NOT artistically). - - --Kim ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #64 **********************************