From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #58 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, February 12 2001 Volume 06 : Number 058 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR (Happy spook?) 13 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #56 [Oasage@aol.com] Re: NPR/ #13 [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: AP Stickers [SHARKe411@aol.com] Re: NPR/ #13 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Poe Oxygen interview V-day [VR5SBloom@aol.com] My site [Robert Cobb ] Re: poe chat ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: poe chat [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: poe chat [KoriG@aol.com] Re: poe chat ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: another chat room [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: poe chat [JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com] Re: NPR: Re: "Dead" [GloryBox84@aol.com] Re: another chat room [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] Re: AP Stickers [LivTheMdns@aol.com] Re: poe chat [Benjamin uong ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:18:26 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR (Happy spook?) 13 Hm. I've read differently on that subject. These occult scientists didn't view the 13 moons as bad, until about the same time patriarchal religions came around, and many of these occult physicists were then apart of these religions...Zoroastrianists, Hebrews, Mithraics...etc... Black Dove In a message dated 2/10/01 9:48:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Krod Knid writes: > Why is 13 sacred to Gaia (or whatever name she is going by these days)? 13 > is considered an unlucky number from way ancient times...probably has > something to do with the fact that there are 13 full moons during the year > and only 12 months (as in moon-ths)...so we have the "blue moon", which is > the second full moon in the same month, a rare occurence. There should be 13 > X 28 day months instead of the odd assortment of 12 unequal ones, which would > also follow a woman's menstrual cycle more closely, which is probably why the > number is sacred to Gaia. The reason we have 12 months instead has more to do > with astrology and other occult "sciences" than with Christianity. Something > to do with the nature of a circle which, if divided into 12 X 30 degree > segments of its 360 degrees will result in 4 squares and 3 trines and 3X4=12 > and 4X3=12, etc. So you get 12 houses in either the Placidian or equal house > system of astrology as well as 12 astrological signs (thought there were > initially fewer) and also the 4 basic elements of matter being Air, Fire, > Earth, Water and the 3 states of these elements being Cardinal, Mutable, > Fixed. There are 365 days in a year...very close to the 360 degrees of a > perfect circle...and it was meet for occultist's needs to establish 12 months > instead of 13. But the moon actually circles the Earth 13 times during one > circuit of the Earth around the Sun, so they are left with the quandry of an > extra "true" moon-th which is now hidden (and thus a secret...and bad luck, > etc.) among the other12. So it was occult "physics" and not Christianity or " > men" who made 13 an unlucky number. The same people who were Gaia worshippers > were often the occult scientists as well. BTW, I have always had good fortune > on Friday the 13th...seems like a good $$$ day for me. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:59:09 EST From: Oasage@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #56 In a message dated 02/10/2001 10:36:17 PM Central Standard Time, rmorale2@rochester.rr.com writes: > There are at least 3 Poe clubs on yahoo, they have their own chats on > occassion, none of those people are making an issue of what a poor product > #poe Is, and you haven't heard me say a word about them. > > > the original korig email: Hey folks, I was thinking about setting up a Poe chatroom on AOL since there are so many of us APs on AOL. It's in no way to replace or compete with the IRC room; just an additional means by which to discuss, chat about and/or promote Poe. I would probably schedule an hour or two out of the week (other than Thursday night, of course) that I would make a point to be there, but the rest of the time, it may be open and it may be not. And if it's not, anyone is free to do so, of course. AOL is just such a good way to reach the general public, it would be a shame to waste it since so many of us are on it. Tell me what yall think. KORi as u can see, kori NEVER said anything about #poe being a poor product. she only started stating her problems with poe.org after you labeled her a divider for trying "to reach the general public." - -reg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 04:20:13 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR/ #13 In a message dated 2/11/2001 2:18:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, Dracovixen writes: > Hm. I've read differently on that subject. These occult scientists didn't > view the 13 moons as bad, until about the same time patriarchal religions > came around, and many of these occult physicists were then apart of these > religions...Zoroastrianists, Hebrews, Mithraics...etc... > Black Dove > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I think they thought it was "bad luck" that, while the days of the year and various other movements of the Sun and planets...the whole Zodiac...fell right in line with their system(s), the movements of the moon did not. "She" had "her" own way of doing things (heh, heh...that damned menstrual cycle). So they are stuck with this number 13 that flies in the face of all their systems of calculation, making them imperfect...and yet it is undeniably there. There it is staring them right in the face and mocking them. The circle thing is VERY important too, since it relates to the Ouroboros, the mystic symbol of the serpent eating its own tail...the probable foundation of the yin/yang and a symbol that goes to great antiquity through ancient Greeks and Phonecians back to Egypt of about 6,000 years ago. This is also the foundation of the "tree of life" which is prominent in the Tarot as well as in ancient alchemical systems. #13 is a big fly in the ointment for these people, who all predate Judeo-Christianity by many thousands of years. I can tell you have a case of the ass against the Church and its repressive meddling though. I do too...I think most of them are just like the Pharisees and Saducees who couldn't handle Christ and had him executed in the first place. They steal the freedom from His message with their typically foolish human reasoning and fear based oppressions. Where we differ is that I think these things are the result of human folly, not anything inherent in Christianity. The early Christians had the same shit done to them (and worse) that later phoney Christians did to pagans in the name of God...and well before Christ people were committing genocide in the name of other gods. People kinda suck that way. As for Judeo-Christianity being patriarchies...doesn't godess worship sneak into them via the idolization of "Mother Mary" (the Mother of God and all that noise) in Catholicism...and the Jews, for all their insistence on descent from Abraham their patriarch, are very mother oriented in actual life practice. You are right about the Roman Catholics merely adopting pagan holy days as the basis for many of their ostensibly Christian celebrations. Christmas doesn't even occur anywhere near Jesus' birthday. It is not only near the winter solstice, it is directly concurrent with Saturnalia, which was one of the favorite high feast times of the Romans. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:06:13 EST From: SHARKe411@aol.com Subject: Re: AP Stickers PM Subject: AP Stickers > > Ok AP's... I've made a bunch of Poe stickers that are ready to go. > Thanks to Mike for hooking me up with this project. If you haven't seen the > scan of what the sticker looks like, you can check it out at: > > http://www.polishchick.com/munecas/poesticker.jpg > > I'm always here for the AP creative needs. And I'm doing the first run on Tuesday of next week. I'll be sending them out asap after that. If anyone who sent me money has decided they want a specific number, just let me know and I'll send you that many. So... how do I get a sticker? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:26:12 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR/ #13 In a message dated 2/11/01 4:20:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, Krod Knid writes: > Oh, I think they thought it was "bad luck" that, while the days of the year > and various other movements of the Sun and planets...the whole Zodiac...fell > right in line with their system(s), the movements of the moon did not. "She" > had "her" own way of doing things (heh, heh...that damned menstrual cycle). > So they are stuck with this number 13 that flies in the face of all their > systems of calculation, making them imperfect...and yet it is undeniably > there. There it is staring them right in the face and mocking them. LOL. This actually amuses me very much...What religion were these people that you speak of? Greeks? The > circle thing is VERY important too, since it relates to the Ouroboros, the > mystic symbol of the serpent eating its own tail...the probable foundation of > the yin/yang and a symbol that goes to great antiquity through ancient Greeks > and Phonecians back to Egypt of about 6,000 years ago. This is also the > foundation of the "tree of life" which is prominent in the Tarot as well as > in ancient alchemical systems. #13 is a big fly in the ointment for these > people, who all predate Judeo-Christianity by many thousands of years. I can > tell you have a case of the ass against the Church and its repressive > meddling though. Was it really that obvious? :) I do. I know it is not totally to blame, of course. But as this was the topic at the time... I do too...I think most of them are just like the Pharisees > and Saducees who couldn't handle Christ and had him executed in the first > place. They steal the freedom from His message with their typically foolish > human reasoning and fear based oppressions. Where we differ is that I think > these things are the result of human folly, not anything inherent in > Christianity. The early Christians had the same shit done to them (and worse) > that later phoney Christians did to pagans in the name of God...and well > before Christ people were committing genocide in the name of other gods. > People kinda suck that way. Yeah I know. Christianity was a mystery cult that paralled the mystery cult of the the Mirthraics...it's actually very interesting because for the Mithraics, Mithras was their savior who suffered for them... As for Judeo-Christianity being patriarchies... > doesn't godess worship sneak into them via the idolization of "Mother Mary" ( > the Mother of God and all that noise) in Catholicism... The Virgin Mary was really the only female figure that became this way, but she was stolen of her sexuality and her power. The original meaning for the word "virgin", was a woman who was no defined by any man. She could own property and make her own decisions. She was not defined by her brother, father, husband, son... But it was twisted later on as a woman who was untouched by sex, therefore "sinless", and the idea of the Immaculate Conception was born. She is known as the wife to Joseph the Carpenter, the carrier of God's child, and the mother of Jesus. Where is the woman herself? Over the years she has become viewed as the figure of compassion and nurturing, yet she remains mortal and unequal to her son or God. I don't see her as a goddess figure. If one were to see her that way, Christianity would no longer be a monotheistic religion, focused on this powerful, jealous God. Which, if you think about it, it isn't anyway. After all, isn't one of the commandments "Thou shalt have no Gods before me...etc.." That's recognizing that there are other gods, in a way. and the Jews, for all > their insistence on descent from Abraham their patriarch, are very mother > oriented in actual life practice. You are right about the Roman Catholics > merely adopting pagan holy days as the basis for many of their ostensibly > Christian celebrations. Christmas doesn't even occur anywhere near Jesus' > birthday. It is not only near the winter solstice, it is directly concurrent > with Saturnalia, which was one of the favorite high feast times of the Romans. There have been whisperings that there once was a Goddess in Hebrew scripture, and she was later taken out and eliminated. I forget her name, however... Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:00:14 EST From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Poe Oxygen interview V-day The Oxygen site says that the Poe interview will be on Wednesday, Feb 14. The name of the show is Breathe, on the Oxygen TV network. If someone plans to tape this, please let me know! I know there were at least two people in chat last time who said they would. http://schedule.oxygen.com/program.jsp?brand=12 - --Michele Got promos, bootlegs, or MP3s of your favorite artist? Feel guilty? Give 'em a tip at http://www.fairtunes.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:15:06 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Cobb Subject: My site Does anyone know how I can get in touch with MZD? I think I'm going to need permission to do this. I've got the layout down, but I need some help. Are there any artists out there willing to work from rough sketches to do a mostly graphics based site? Reply directly to me, cos I still want to keep the details hushed (if I haven't given too much away already.) Adahfin "It will change your life" -HOL Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:54:44 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: poe chat You interpreted it as if > she was trying to divide the list and replace the IRC chatroom, and the way > you protected them suggested to me that it really isn't about the list or the > chat, it's about how involved YOU are in them. You seemed to take it as a > threat to you yourself. > All you had to do was voice your opinion that you didn't like the idea > without attacking her personally, and AOL users. You didn't have to bring up > all sorts of old shit. But, you did. That suggests to me that there is more > going on than just your devotion to the IRC chat and this list. > Black Dove Do the math, she puts out a post that says we shouldn't make a sticker for http://poe.org for whatever reason, the thought is planted, and implemented. Next post, Lets open a #poe on AOL Factor in she is a regular user of #poe @ http://poe.org and says that it SUCKS HELLO????????? Why is Http://Poe.Org getting the unwanted step child treatment? Where is the call for all AOL users to make an effort to go to #poe on thrusday nites because the channel could use some people that know how to chat if that is HER issue, which it is? I could take that, but to announce she will open a #poe on AOL knowing how she feels, yup it strikes a raw nerve. Is it possible to split the list down the middle based on those lines? Sure looks like it. Yes, I've got a few years invested in running #poe, as do others on this list, and IMMENSE consideration was put into making this chat as universaly acessable and INCLUSIVE as possible, so that anybody on this list would be able to use the chat, something that was not possible last time around. Yeah I guess it does get personal when somene stops in to tell ya how much you suck LOL but hell go ahead tell ME that I suck, but don't get mad about it, say that my shit don't work when you are sitting there using it, and don't discourage others from using it while promoting your own. I sleep just fine at night knowing what my motives are with chat and the list, I'm sure there are those that don't, or at least who shouldn't. By the way, aside from all the politics, if you read my bio you would know that I am here recruiting the best minds in telecommunications for the next american revolution, this is the training and testing grounds, we are all here plotting, so my real goal has never been a secret. Many of our agents are using AOL for cover, and if you split us up, it will make the AOL users on http://poe.org #poe look bad So please do stop by #poe on http://poe.org especialy if you have said something about it, but have never been there... you might even find KoriG there.... Oh yeah, D-Max says b00 and will try to be by thursday with friends. sp00k #### ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:23:42 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: poe chat In a message dated 2/11/01 5:57:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, rmorale2@rochester.rr.com writes: > Do the math, she puts out a post that says we shouldn't make a sticker for > http://poe.org for whatever reason, the thought is planted, and > implemented. That's her opinion. I didn't have anything to say about it because I figured as long as someone's making a sticker, or I'll make my own. > > Next post, Lets open a #poe on AOL > > Factor in she is a regular user of #poe @ http://poe.org and says that it > SUCKS > > HELLO????????? Hello. If it's the only thing that's really available aside from the yahoo chats you mentioned and has other users on it, where else would she go? People often do things like that. They will continue using something even if it sucks, because it may be the best option they have, or whatever reason it is for people to use it. Now, she's stating her opinion that it sucks, and has come up with another option. A sign of intelligence. > > Why is Http://Poe.Org getting the unwanted step child treatment? > > > Where is the call for all AOL users to make an effort to go to #poe on > thrusday nites because the channel could use some people that know how to > chat if that is HER issue, which it is? I could take that, but to announce > she will open a #poe on AOL knowing how she feels, yup it strikes a raw > nerve. > > Is it possible to split the list down the middle based on those lines? Sure > looks like it. But you see, I don't see how. Now there's more than one chatroom (and whatever yahoo ones there may be) available. Are people going to be going to one exclusively do you think? They just have more options now. You can still have the scheduled IRC chat. If someone goes to IRC, and there's not a whole lot of people in there, or someone that they're looking for, they can go to another one. Yahoo, AOL, sorry if non-AOL users can't go to AOL, but it's not like the AOL-users planned it that way. I'm not really trying to take sides on this issue here. But I thought your initial reaction to Kori's post was immature and offensive. That's why I took up the discussion with you. > > Yes, I've got a few years invested in running #poe, as do others on this > list, and IMMENSE consideration was put into making this chat as > universaly acessable and INCLUSIVE as possible, so that anybody on this > list would be able to use the chat, something that was not possible last > time around. Yeah I guess it does get personal when somene stops in to tell > ya how much you suck LOL but hell go ahead tell ME that I suck, but don't > get mad about it, say that my shit don't work when you are sitting there > using it, and don't discourage others from using it while promoting your > own. I don't remember her discouraging others from using it. I think she presented it as a chat in AOL for AOL users since there were a few on the list and she knew some were having trouble with the IRC chat, and for possibly attracting more fans. Those ones having trouble should ask for help. I agree with you on that. But attacking her for coming up with another option is just childish. > > I sleep just fine at night knowing what my motives are with chat and the > list, I'm sure there are those that don't, or at least who shouldn't. > > By the way, aside from all the politics, if you read my bio you would know > that I am here recruiting the best minds in telecommunications for the next > american revolution, this is the training and testing grounds, we are all > here plotting, so my real goal has never been a secret. Many of our agents > are using AOL for cover, and if you split us up, it will make the AOL users > on http://poe.org #poe look bad > > So please do stop by #poe on http://poe.org especialy if you have said > something about it, but have never been there... you might even find > KoriG there.... > > Oh yeah, D-Max says b00 and will try to be by thursday with friends. > > sp00k > > #### > I haven't said anything good or bad about the chat. I went there once, no one was there, and I left. NBD. I had no problem getting in, and I know that chats aren't always busy, so I know it wasn't by anyone's fault that it was empty. I'm not a chatroom kind of person, so if you never see me there, don't be surprised. And AOL users probably will never see me in the AOL one, either. So, I really have no reason to take sides. I just think that Kori's post was a fine and simple suggestion, and she got creamed for it. I didn't think it was fair, and I think she had a fairly good idea. I also didn't like the inclusion of other AOL users in your attack. What can I say, if I see something or someone being treated unfairly, I'm going to speak up. That's the way I am. Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:56:56 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: poe chat In a message dated 2/11/01 7:15:43 PM, rmorale2@rochester.rr.com writes: >Do the math, she puts out a post that says we shouldn't make a sticker >for http://poe.org for whatever reason, the thought is planted, and >implemented. Please, if anyone can find the post in which I spoke of both poe.org and the stickers, I would surely like to see it. Once again, I'll re-state what I have said over and over: That I thought (and I said THOUGHT.... just my OPINION) AP-made stickers should promote the AP/fan sites, (if they are to promote a site at all,) and not to promote the label's site. (That is their job.) Jarrod, Dean and many others have put much time and effort and care into their sites, and personally, I would love to sing their praises >Next post, Lets open a #poe on AOL >Factor in she is a regular user of #poe @ http://poe.org and says that >it SUCKS First of all, yes, I do go into #poe on dalnet quite often, but I hardly EVER go to poe.org, because my system will not allow me to access #poe via that site. And secondly, anyone who knows me knows I never state that anything "SUCKS". I say that I don't prefer it, or it's not my cup of tea, not my thing, etc. It has been years since I asserted the junior high asessment that anything "sucks". I am far too laconic and bigmouthed to give such a curt evaluation. As you could see from chat earlier today, using IRC has some significant shortcomings for me, and that we could not find any way around them. (Note: If there is any APs out there on a Mac that have somewhat mastered using IRC, please contact me, as I am still willing to try to work around these problems, though I still feel that I shouldn't have to do all this to satisfy ONE person.) >HELLO!! >Where is the call for all AOL users to make an effort to go to #poe on >thrusday nites because the channel could use some people that know how >to >chat if that is HER issue, which it is? I could take that, but to announce >she will open a #poe on AOL knowing how she feels, yup it strikes a raw >nerve. sp00k, I'm serious... do you have some learning disability that keeps you from comprehending things even if they are clearly repeated to you over and over again? The main purpose of an AOL room is to bring new people in, find new fans, MAKE new fans, show them the way to the sites, #poe, the mailing list. Why do you so feverishly not want ANY new fans to be gathered? >ya how much you suck LOL but hell go ahead tell ME that I suck, but don't >get mad about it, >I sleep just fine at night knowing what my motives are with chat and the >list, I'm sure there are those that don't, or at least who shouldn't. You are the one who came out swinging and won't let the issue go. I'm cool and calm as a cucumber. >By the way, aside from all the politics, if you read my bio you would know >that I am here recruiting the best minds in telecommunications for the >next >american revolution, this is the training and testing grounds, we are all >here plotting, so my real goal has never been a secret. Many of our agents >are using AOL for cover, and if you split us up, it will make the AOL >users on http://poe.org #poe look bad Gee, guess I was the only one, but I didn't know you were using the room as a guinea pig for your OWN benefit. Now it's all the more clearer that we don't all have Poe's best interests as the core to our actions. >So please do stop by #poe on http://poe.org especialy if you have said >something about it, but have never been there... you might even find >KoriG there.... Sure there is that chance, that distinct chance, because (like I said a million times before,) I in no way suggested an AOL room as a REPLACEMENT for #poe, but as a means in which to spread the word on Poe. If I was trying to fill a person in on Poe, a person who had no idea who she was, I'm not going to throw everything at them at once, because I would hate for someone to do that to me, and I know that a lot of people don't like it either. >Oh yeah, D-Max says b00 and will try to be by thursday with friends. Cool. He's a cool guy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:09:54 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: poe chat - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: Re: poe chat > > In a message dated 2/11/01 7:15:43 PM, rmorale2@rochester.rr.com writes: > > >Do the math, she puts out a post that says we shouldn't make a sticker > >for http://poe.org for whatever reason, the thought is planted, and > >implemented. > > Please, if anyone can find the post in which I spoke of both poe.org and the > stickers, I would surely like to see it. In a message dated 2/2/01 11:11:41 PM, poekicksass@yahoo.com writes: >hmm...how about one >for www.poe.org? Since that site is endorsed and more or less dictated by Atlantic, I think it would be best to leqave any promotion of that in their hands. But again, this is just my opinion. Give your opinions and thoughts. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:33:57 EST From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com Subject: Re: another chat room A little trick when your searching for a specific room is to use the find feature on your comp. Hit the control and F button to bring up the find box click on the screen that lists all the rooms and type in what you are looking for. Saves a lot of time scrolling through the multitudes of rooms.. Be well The Blue Bastard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:48:09 EST From: JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com Subject: Re: poe chat In a message dated 2/11/01 3:07:53 PM Alaskan Standard Time, KoriG@aol.com writes: << Please, if anyone can find the post in which I spoke of both poe.org and the stickers, I would surely like to see it. >> I don't have the post. but what i remember was something about promoting fan based sites. I think you DID say poe.org. and then corrected yourself and meant that you didn't want to promote p-o-e . I could be very wrong. but thats what i remember... ~jez ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:46:07 EST From: GloryBox84@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Re: "Dead" Nietzsche is dead. - -God God is dead. - -Nietzsche ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:00:09 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: another chat room In a message dated 2/9/01 11:57:54 PM Central Standard Time, BluesyBear@aol.com writes: > I do think it's a great idea because the other night I could not get into > the > Thursday night chat, (some of you already know I"m a computer moron) and it > was really frustrating. I think aol is much easier and since so many of us > DO have it we should take advantage of it. > awesome idea > I second that because I can't EVER get into any chat rooms unless they're provided by AOL... so what the hell? :) ~*~ Fade, made the fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack ~*~ There is no power like my pretty power~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:30:30 EST From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: AP Stickers In a message dated 2/11/01 12:15:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, SHARKe411@aol.com writes: > well, if you live near someone who's making the stickers, talk to one of them. If you live where there isn't anyone making them, make your own. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:19:31 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin uong Subject: Re: poe chat - --- KoriG@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/11/01 7:15:43 PM, > rmorale2@rochester.rr.com writes: > > >Do the math, she puts out a post that says we > shouldn't make a sticker > >for http://poe.org for whatever reason, the > thought is planted, and > >implemented. > > Please, if anyone can find the post in which I spoke > of both poe.org and the > stickers, I would surely like to see it. Yeah...I did post that message asking for how about a sticker for www.poe.org. After I posted that message, I started to design the sticker and then I saw your reply saying that it belongs to Altantic and stopped doing the design. At first, I didn't know who owns www.poe.org...but now I don't think it matters. I think www.poe.org is really worth mentioning. I've been listening to Poe since '96 and for almost 5 years I had no information about how she's been doing or if she's still making music. Maybe I was just stupid and didn't know where to search. Not until recently (2-3 months ago) that I discovered www.poe.org on the Yahoo search engine. I didn't visit the site when I first saw it. Later when I decided to take a look at it, I remembered the name of the site and went straight from my browswer instead of going to Yahoo and do another search. And that's where I found the Psycho Ward and joined this incredible mailing list and became well informed of what's going on with Poe. The reason that I wanted to design or have someone to design a sticker for www.poe.org is because it's much easier to remember than the others. (No offense, Dean...Your site is amazing, but without www.poe.org I could never find out about it.) I'm an art student. I might look at things differently in designing, especially in information design. Unclear and confusing designs can definately cause damage, or even change history. Just look at whoever designed that ballot for Florida. (No offense to those who already made the designs. I think they're all great and deserve to be noticed.) We are talking about a moving vehicle here. Not everyone has 20/20 vision on the road even if he/she is wearing glasses. The red light only provides a certain stationary time before your vehicle starts moving again. And not everyone lives in places like Arizona where the sun is mostly present. I think that www.poe.org would be easier to stick in people mind (at least to me) and it should be included in the sticker design along with other great poe sites. Ben Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #58 **********************************