From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #33 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Wednesday, January 24 2001 Volume 06 : Number 033 Today's Subjects: ----------------- i'm new [StarGazerLily429@aol.com] Re: all a matter of interpretation ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] NPR: psychology [Cokitty311@aol.com] erm i fergot to do the intro thing ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] Re: HOL ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] Re: NPR- Christians going to church...doesn't make them Xtian ["J.R. Jobe] Re: psychology ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:25:33 EST From: StarGazerLily429@aol.com Subject: i'm new hi i'm a poe fan and i decided to join this list. well since i'm here i thought that i should introduce myself... (1) Who you are?, Sarah Katherine (2) Where you're from?, I'm from pennslyvannia PA (3) How old you are?, i am 17 (4) Where you first heard Poe?, geez... i guess when i first heard angry johnny on the radio. i fell in love at that moment (5) What other musicians do you listen to? placebo, smashing pumpkins, and exteremly off the topic of poe, but i like good charlotte (6) Any other interesting information you wish to share. hmm that about covers it. i like to get email though. so if you would like go right ahead. thanks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:27:48 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: Re: all a matter of interpretation i was actually thinking of doing a study on music and emotion.... like take a group of ppl and select one (at least to begin with) or a selection of songs, and have everyone in the "study group" listen to it, and get their reactions to it... like the first reaction they have and see if and how it changes the more they listen to it... and see how different ppl have the same or different emotional reactions/connections to the music..... could be interesting at least. if anyone is interested let me know, or if anyone knows of songs to suggest that would be cool too.. there are a few songs by poe i wanna try this with.. especiall seeing as one of her songs started this in my head. ~e > Music is power........ Music......... is the most powerful art > existing...... I should say poetry and music are.... but more music.... I > mean have you ever heard about someone who saw a painting for example and > suicide themselves? MMMmmm NO! But have you ever heard about people who > heard a certain song and suicide themselves.... not cause of the song for > sure.... but let's say music creates a new atmosphere which twist all your > body and soul... which means.... music do touch with your emotions. > Another example... when I'm down and I wanna be ever sadder and I put a sad > song on..... damn I wanna cry my eyes out.... but if I'm sad and put a nice > and happy song on..... I can think about smiling and saying oh fuck you all > off, I won't let you drag me down anymore. > What I mean is that well music is everything..... and for historical studies > about music..... music inderectly was the first art existing. Then it came > paiting. I do not know if I agree with that theory that music was the first > art.... since we all know pre historical men used to paint all over the > caverns to foresse the future.... but we never know!! Then it came dancing. > Therefore I should say that videos can somehow give a bad song a credit it > should never have. Like those rapers for example, their song can suck to the > bone (I'm not saying ALL do, I like rap, but some of them plz, makes me > SICK!!!) but if they do this vid of 10 million $ wohooooo, then cool look at > his vid how cool, and wanting ya or not, the song will assume a different > value than it had before. Which I think it's totally wrong. I'm not against > 10.000 millions dollars vids... I just say, they song HAS to be like equal > to that price. > Like have any of you seen "Sweet Surrender" by Sarah Mclachlan? Or even > Silent all these years by Tori Amos?? Those are SIMPLE vids..... but their > music rock..... which is so cool cause they don't need to spend all their > money to make their song sound cooler!!! =) > Thanx for listening to me lol > > Pyscho Tori > > ~~~~< be above those people who think they are in higher level than anyone, those > who think they know too much. Ignorant so that you can learn more and not > think you know everything and everyone. Lovable, because love is all we've > got left of decente in this strange world...>>~~~ > > PS: How can I e-mail Poe?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bonanza jelly-bean > To: > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:21 PM > Subject: all a matter of interpretation > > > > > > hey my point is the same... its a matter of interpretation... besides, at > > least in my opinion.. with most if not all music part of the whole thing > is > > not just what it means to the artist, or exactly what the artist says, but > > what it means to you... im right now sorta doing my own independant study, > > on that... how one song can evoke a certain emotion in one person and mean > > one thing to that person and can be something completely different to > > someone else... i mean even with just myself songs take on different > > meanings just depending on how i interpret it each time i listen to it... > > part of why i like poe so much.... i think someone even mentioned this > > concept when talking about the song angry johnny... i also had this > > experience when a friend of mine involving the song fingertips... i mean > > there are some pretty apparent "themes" in that song, but it evoked > > different emotions for each of us, and we both had slightly different > > interpretations.. > > > > i kinda view it like this.... the artist when creating any form of art is > > expressing thenselves and their emotions and experiences... the point is > to > > share those with others, but also to let the listener/viewer/reader/etc. > to > > find a bit of themselves in that piece of are, to sometimes find parts of > > their own life within.. it even goes as far as the fact that you creat > > associations with certain songs... there are some extremely sad songs that > i > > have very happy pleasant emotions associated with them because i associate > > them with positive experiences... i mean the first time i had sex with my > > ex-fiance was listening to "posession" by sarah maclaghlan.. im my mind > its > > a very passionate and loving song, altho i have been told the most of the > > song is excerpts from letters that a stalker had written her who had > > intended to kill her(i'll take your breath away) goves the whole song a > new > > spin doesnt it..... each time someone shows me another > > interpretation/reaction to a piece of music/art of anyform.. i get to see > > part of them also, not just me or the artist... > > > > i dont at all think that you should change your quote.. even if it is > > "to".... its all about what you get from the music, and you prolly wouldnt > > have it as a quote unless it spoke to you in some way, and thats what is > > most important.. i was just trying to share my interpretation, i guess i > > hadnt done that very well... i am sorry if anyone was offended... > > > > > > bitheway..... pussies rock!!! and i am very proud to have one myself!!! > > (just thought i would add myself to the fan club) > > > > > > ~~e > > > > > > > > > I agree in saying that it is VERY annoying that fans try and post > > lyrics > > > that are incorrect and using a source such as themselves to figure out > the > > > lyrics of the band they are supporting on their own. When a band doesn't > > post > > > their lyrics on the cd booklet, it's most likely because they want YOU > to > > > interperate the lyrics on your own. Anyway, I'm not going to change MY > > lyric > > > below because someone is failing in trying to tell me it's wrong. I want > > 100% > > > proof that they're correct before I admit to my lyric being wrong > > considering > > > that I had it on my signature for months and maybe someone just wanted > to > > > point out a supposed fault to piss me off... anyway, peace. > > > > > > > > > ~*~ Fade, made the fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack > > > ~*~ Grow up and be a man, drop dead right where I stand~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:33:46 EST From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Religion and the trouble it gets you into... I thought it was either one or the other (or maybe something else) In a message dated 1/23/01 10:00:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, Iamtheher4u@aol.com writes: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:54:14 -0800 From: "Morgie *" Subject: HOL Hey guys, You know where it says "Muss es sein?" in the book right before The Navidson Record starts???? What does that mean?? Does it mean "must it be?"???????? -MorghaN _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:14:14 EST From: Cokitty311@aol.com Subject: NPR: psychology i was just wondering if any of you out there knew anything about psychology, I'm attempting to study for a final i have tomorrow and i was wondering if anyone could help me out, if so, please email me. thank you ~Lani ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:14:19 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: erm i fergot to do the intro thing i fergot to introduce myself when i joined... oops > (1) Who you are? e , em , or lucky > (2) Where you're from? boston > (3) How old you are?, i am 23 (and a half!)(god do you remember when a half a year actually counter for something?!?) > (4) Where you first heard Poe? i guess i heard angry johnny like years ago, but didnt start listening to her till recently when a friend online told me to check out a few of her songs and she instantly became my #1 fave > (5) What other musicians do you listen to? kinnie starr, bif naked, morphine, holly cole, ani difranco, david bowie, keoki, esthero, massive attack, bikini kill, portishead, nina simone, melissa ferrick, pamela means, um soooo many others but to many to list, but those are currently on my playlist > (6) im totally into all forms of art... i dont play any music, but i would like to learn how to spin(anny suggestions on how to or how to get started are appreciated) and i am also really into psychology. > > thats all folks ~e ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:25:39 -0500 From: Rick Joyce Subject: I don't need your civil... woah! Anybody know any place online where they have pictures of the new and "improved" (e.g., heavy-set) Axl Rose? I'm disgustingly gleeful about the fact that he's let himself go... heh heh heh. Maybe it's the whole abusing the girlfriend thing...? I don't EXACTLY consider that a positive character trait... maybe that's just me. Anyway... Anybody know any URLs? Thanks... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:17:02 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: Re: HOL um, i should prolly know this, but hwat exactly is house of leaves ~e - ----- Original Message ----- From: Morgie * To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:54 PM Subject: HOL > > Hey guys, > You know where it says "Muss es sein?" in the book right before The Navidson > Record starts???? What does that mean?? > Does it mean "must it be?"???????? > > -MorghaN > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:34:53 -0800 (PST) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: Re: NPR- Christians going to church...doesn't make them Xtian - ---I know I'm somewhat guilty of keeping this religion topic going, but I'm tired of it too. - ---On the touring subject though, all I've heard is rumors that Poe will tour starting in March. But again take it as it is, a rumor. I still can't wait though! Has anyone heard who she is touring with yet? - ---Jobe - --- MELISSA STEWARD wrote: > > Not Poe Related (unfortunately): > I would like to second the vote for stopping > the strong talk of > religion. That's not what this list is for. Yes, > it's for opinions and > some of the posts were peoples "opinions" about > religion. But the majority > of them were a little more like preaching, I felt > like I was back in bible > school for a second. Everyone has their own > beliefs, so let's just leave it > at that. > > Poe related: > I am really anxious for Poe to tour again. > Any news of this? Also, > did they figure out the glitch about names not > appearing on the psycho ward > list? > > Melissa Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:05:28 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: Re: psychology i know some stuff... depending on what you need to know... i was in school fer psych fer a while, and know lots of random stuff.. ~e > > i was just wondering if any of you out there knew anything about psychology, > I'm attempting to study for a final i have tomorrow and i was wondering if > anyone could help me out, if so, please email me. thank you > ~Lani ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #33 **********************************