From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #31 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, January 23 2001 Volume 06 : Number 031 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: NPR assholes and pussies ["Greg Zuro" ] Re: Golden Globes... [KoriG@aol.com] Re: opinions vs. numbers [KoriG@aol.com] Re: suicide prevention [Ricky ] Re: all a matter of interpretation ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] RE: NPR assholes and pussies ["Mike Vaughn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:50:40 -0800 From: "Greg Zuro" Subject: RE: NPR assholes and pussies on Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:46:25 -0800 "Mike Vaughn" wrote: >You're right. I should be more clear. By asshole, I mean a guy who is a >follower of Lykis 101 (see http://www.blowmeuptom.com). Pushy, manipulative, >and forceful are NOT the qualities I meant. What I should have said is: if >you want to have more successful female relationships DON'T call them after >a first date, DON'T spend lots of money on them (as little as possible >actually), DON'T send flowers early in the relationship, and DON'T date >single mothers... unless you want an insta-family (just add water). That was >the asshole type I was trying to describe. Pussies are the guys who get >dumped when get all serious, mushy, and co-dependent after one or two dates. >Does that make sense. It's really about being yourself... with a little self >confidence. >ahhhhhh, all better. >- -MikeV Actually, Tom specifically advocates taking advantage of women with low self esteen in order to get sex. While Tom's sort of 'asshole' may not be pushy or forceful, he is certainly manipulative. Don't get me wrong, I find Leykis to be an excellent source of almost endless humor. I'm just not sure how well his 'program' works. Has anyone within earshot put it to practice? Mike? - -Greg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:35:33 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: Golden Globes... In a message dated 1/22/01 1:36:32 AM, GloryBox84@aol.com writes: >But of course thats worthless to the Gloden fuckin Globes. Death to Hollywood >bullshit!!! > Actually, yourn anger is a bit misguided here. The Golden Globes are voted on by the foreign press, not "Hollywood". KORi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:48:28 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: opinions vs. numbers In a message dated 1/22/01 2:35:18 AM, LivTheMdns@aol.com writes: >... and on the first day, Navidson said onto Johnny Truant, "This is not >for >you", and saw that it was good... You know, I still always hear that quote in teh voice of Eddie Vedder.... but that's just me. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:09:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ricky Subject: Re: suicide prevention Hi folks, I missed the original post where the person asked about suicide prevention chats online. I've volunteered to answer the suicide phone lines in both Boston and San Francisco and I can assure you that no one is going to convince your friend to kill themself. Either they are at a point where they're going to do it regardless or venting, of any kind, will help allay the feeling for at least a little while longer. I've talked to all kinds of people on the lines, from people just checking in to others holding guns to their heads. It's a choice that they will make for themselves. I don't know of chat rooms on the net, but if there's a Samaritin's phone number for your friend's town or city area, encourage him or her to call. They are completely confidential. They don't trace numbers or otherwise find you out no matter what you may be doing to yourself at the time. They're there to listen and they do a good job. Here are phone numbers: http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/samaritans.htm I'm always willing to talk as well. you can let your friend know they can contact me at thomas@langure.com I promise the same terms for anonymity. All my best thomas On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Crazy Little wrote: > > What happens if the friend in need goes to the IRC channels, tells his story, and then all the other ppl in the channel agree with him? should he go through with it? (sorry, joke of poor taste) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bonanza jelly-bean > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:58 PM > Subject: suicide prevention > > > > > > try IRC... i have never been in any of them, but i have friends who have so > > i am assuming they are support channels and not how to channels... i use > > dal.net (for server you can use irc.dal.net from an irc chat client if you > > dont know about irc(try downloading mirc for pc users.. and virc for mac) > > anyways on dal.net there are these channels > > #suicide > > #depression > > #depressed > > those are tho ones that i can remember at least... there may be more > > > > also i know that there are some depression , and suicide prevention web > > sites that have chat rooms but i dont have the url's so you would have to do > > a search.. > > good luck > > > > ~~e > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:51 AM > > Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #26 > > > > > > > > > > this might seem psycho, but it's mere curiosity, are there any suicide > > > prevention CHATlines on the web?...i thought my fellow AP''s could > > > help....it's for an old friend ion need..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:36:44 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: Re: all a matter of interpretation well i personally like videos ... if they are well done at least... and yeah it shows more of the artists interpretation, but it also gets the directors interpretation in there too.... i like the fact that you can see more into someone elses view point... its like if i took a song and made a video... i show how that song effects me.... and if you did the same thing we would have two drastically different videos... but we would be able to catch a glimps into the other person(along with whoevers song it was).... i am always changing how i feel about songs... its like somtimes when you first hear a song you may hate it, but it grows on you, you start to for a relationship with the song... you associate it with different things in your life, or something you want to express but dont have the words, but the lyrics speak for you, or it evokes emotion in one way or the other.... ok this just came to me i dont know if it will make sence if it doesnt then tell me and i can try a different way to say it... a song is like a person.... you form a relationship with it... no two relationships in this world are the same... you may love it you may hate it, you may feel indiferent to it, but in some way it effects you... its part of your life, maybe a small part maybe a large part... relationships are always changing.. so will how you see music as a whole, or just one song.... anyways to get to my point... i have a friend and she and i get along really well, we are very close, and our relationship is unique.... i also have another friend whom i am very close to... i adore both of them.... they cant stand eachother.... both of them have a view of eachother that is completely different than how i see each of them... but its like a song... not everyone will find a connection with every song.... but at the same time if i can show her some of what i see in him, and him some of what i see in here then they get a piece of my view and can see why i like one or the other as much as i do... and thats sorta what i see a video as... its just letting you see another interpretation of that song... letting you see something that you might not have seen in it before, but its not actually part of that song... the song is unchanged, its up to you to take what you can from it................ and maybe even at some point share what you get from it with someone else... anyways i know my posts have been really long.... if you want m,e to keep them shorter i will... ive just been working on this project of making mix cd's, and really getting into alalizing and seeing what the most i can get from each song, so all this stuff has been going through my head alot. ~e > > Ok, is it just me or is that a perfect reason to hate music videos? Yeah, I > watch em sometimes and yeah its a nice way for artists to further express > themselves sometimes...But it really sucks to see a video for a song you > really like and have it completely blow the image you have when you listen to > the song. > > - --Kim > ~*You gotta have fear in your heart*~ > -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:47:55 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: manson In a message dated 1/22/01 10:39:36 PM, GloryBox84@aol.com writes: >> That's weird, cuz I heard they just got married, then again my dad doesn't > >> know >> shit. >> > >Well my mom said that she read about it in the paper. They have indeed separated, calling off their engagement. (To boot, SNL had an interesting joke about it this weekend. "McGowarn wanted to have a baby, and Manson wanted to eat one.") Did any of you know that McGowan was born into a cult in Italy to a French mother and Irish father? (Wait, not to sure about her mother's heritage there, but the other stuff is correct.) She moved to the US when she was 8. Just a little trivia I thought I'd share. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:50:17 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: npr: opinions vs. numbers In a message dated 1/22/2001 10:01:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, LivTheMdns@aol.com writes: > > Opinions are much like assholes, everyone's got one. > > Munster > > > > And the smarter people know when to keep theirs hidden. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Some people have them right in the middle of their forehead, like a "third > eye". You know you are in trouble then, cause they are a "spiritual" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:57:02 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: Re:npr: opinions vs. numbers In a message mikevaughn writes: >> > Second, I am allowed to make "grandiose pontifications" because this >is a >> > list of my opinions. And yes, they are emotional. Yes, you can make opinions, if they indeed stated as and in the form of an opinion. "The house is blue" is not a statement of opinion. "The green house looks blue to me" is. "All blondes are stupid" is an unfair statement. "All blondes I meet are stupid", though not the most pleasant of statements, is still fair to make. Mike, please learn these basic differences. (Just in case: This message was in no way meant to in any way insult blondes. I was just using an example, as any reasonable person should see, but it's been too evident lately that some people on this list aren't..... therefore, I covereth my ass.) KORi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:59:11 -0500 From: Matt Buckley Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #30 Ok everyone, how about we all get over this whole thing about "I'm Christian." "Well I'm not." "Well I think they're wrong cause they do this." "Well I think they're right cause they do this." Too many of the postings lately have been replying to one specific person, and is it all that difficult to then reply to that one person alone? Everyone's been preached to before, whether they like it or not. We all understand that. We also understand that apparently people have different religious beliefs, or none at all. At this point, we're all beating a dead horse. This mailing list has turned into a battleground. Can we just drop it? Please? Phew! :-) Matt P.S. Does anyone know when Poe is going to tour again? At least an approximate time? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:21:14 -0800 From: "Mike Vaughn" Subject: RE: NPR assholes and pussies It definitely works... especially in Southern Cal. I know that I was once a pussy, and I've seen the difference first hand. I have seen the light... Hallelujah, my bother! But now I'm married (happily), and yes, she asked me. By the way, I don't completely agree with Tom, but the confidence thing and being smart is definitely an issue with the more spineless males who think they always need to be with someone. I'm not sure Tom "advocates taking advantage of women with low self esteen," but he does say that they are easier to score with. I actually recommend that guys steer clear of women with low esteem. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Greg Zuro Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:51 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: RE: NPR assholes and pussies on Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:46:25 -0800 "Mike Vaughn" wrote: >You're right. I should be more clear. By asshole, I mean a guy who is a >follower of Lykis 101 (see http://www.blowmeuptom.com). Pushy, manipulative, >and forceful are NOT the qualities I meant. What I should have said is: if >you want to have more successful female relationships DON'T call them after >a first date, DON'T spend lots of money on them (as little as possible >actually), DON'T send flowers early in the relationship, and DON'T date >single mothers... unless you want an insta-family (just add water). That was >the asshole type I was trying to describe. Pussies are the guys who get >dumped when get all serious, mushy, and co-dependent after one or two dates. >Does that make sense. It's really about being yourself... with a little self >confidence. >ahhhhhh, all better. >- -MikeV Actually, Tom specifically advocates taking advantage of women with low self esteen in order to get sex. While Tom's sort of 'asshole' may not be pushy or forceful, he is certainly manipulative. Don't get me wrong, I find Leykis to be an excellent source of almost endless humor. I'm just not sure how well his 'program' works. Has anyone within earshot put it to practice? Mike? - -Greg ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #31 **********************************