From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #28 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, January 22 2001 Volume 06 : Number 028 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Bored... [Crystle ] disolved girl lyrics ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] Re: Please help me out with this... ["Tori Amos" ] Re: disolved girl lyrics ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] Re: dissolved girl [GloryBox84@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #25 [SpArKi00@aol.com] fade, made THE fade [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] NPR about NPR how to NPR the NPR b00gie NPR fun Not The NRA ["sp00k@poe.o] Dissolved Girl lyrics [KrodKnid@aol.com] NPR :p ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] Re: fade, made THE fade ["bonanza jelly-bean" ] Re: NPR: manson [Erin Munster ] Re: NPR: manson [Levi Chronister ] about me [Purpulfaerie51@aol.com] Re: about me ["Tori Amos" ] Re: assholes and pussies [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: opinions vs. numbers [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #27 [Dracovixen@aol.com] (no subject) [Freakbaby101@cs.com] Re: assholes and pussies [BUDave18@aol.com] Golden Globes... [Rick Joyce ] npr Re: (no subject) [mark alec ] Re: NPR: manson [GloryBox84@aol.com] Hello everyone [KBrooke311@cs.com] Re: opinions vs. numbers ["Tori Amos" ] RE: Please help me out with this... ["Mike Vaughn" ] Re: Golden Globes... [GloryBox84@aol.com] RE: NPR assholes and pussies ["Mike Vaughn" ] Re: (no subject) ["Tori Amos" ] Re: opinions vs. numbers ["J.R. Jobe" ] NPR: ... what the hell is Methuselah?? ["J.R. Jobe" Subject: Bored... Hey everyone I just thought I would write because I am bored. With nothing to do on my sunday. Well see ya Crystle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:49:28 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: disolved girl lyrics ok fine so you were right ! *pouts* ~e Shame, such a shame I think I kind of lost myself again Day, yesterday Really should be leaving but I stay Say, say my name I need a little love to ease the pain I need a little love to ease the pain It's easy to remember when it came 'Cause it feels like I've been I've been here before You are not my savior But I still don't go Feels like something That I've done before I could fake it But I still want more Fade, made the fade Passion's overrated anyway Say, say my name I need a little love to ease the pain I need a little love to ease the pain It's easy to remember when it came 'Cause it feels like I've been I've been here before You are not my savior But I still don't go, oh I feel live something That I've done before I could fake it But I still want more, oh. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:57:24 -0200 From: "Tori Amos" Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... Well I believe this christianism is failed. Personally I don't believe in a god, and I should say if I do, well then he can act or change anything in our "phisycal" world....... and yes I am gay and I love women so???? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Emily Nisley To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:36 PM Subject: RE: Please help me out with this... > > christians come in a lot of varieties.... i bet there are plenty out > there with whom the ONLY thing i have in common is that we all believe in > jesus. soo...it's hard to lump us all together....especially with the > nuts that go around killing people & preaching hate. > > em [IMAGE]a lesbian, feminist, pro-choice, anti-death penalty, > christian....among other things :) > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Mike Vaughn" > To: "Kyle" , > Subject: RE: Please help me out with this... > Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 01:56:27 -0800 > > First of all... if you EVER want to get laid... the rule is to be an > asshole, not a pussy. Trust me on that one, but maybe sex isn't that > important to you. Whatever. > > Second, I am allowed to make "grandiose pontifications" because this is a > list of my opinions. And yes, they are emotional. But bring yourself down > to > reality for a moment and think about the "Bible Belt." Limited? No. > Millions > of uneducated people preaching the Christian Lifestyle... which certainly > does NOT include gays, minorities, etc. Wake the fuck up, Kyle. > > Blind? Illogical? Wrong? Maybe. But then I've lived overseas and done > more > with my life in 29 years than you probably ever have. Watch who you label > as > having "limited exposure." You're full of shit and I'm calling you on it > now. > > Bring it on. > -MikeV > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kyle [mailto:kbeckley@ucla.edu] > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:30 PM > To: Mike Vaughn; angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... > > First of all, I wonder at your logic...one might accuse you of the straw > man > fallacy. How can you make such a grandiose pontification as "the vast > majority of self-proclaimed Christians,"? Have you spoken to the "vast > majority" yourself? Try substantiating an argument using evidence rather > than spewing emotional crap. I think to date there are over a billion > Christians, you're able to box up a sixth of the worlds population based > on > your limited exposure to a small selection of the whole. You're blind, > illogical, and obviously WRONG. > Oh as far as the boyfriend response goes...better a pussy than an asshole > cheers > Kyle > > > You may be one of the few 'exceptions' but I always wonder how long > you'll > > put up with those people as they are and NOT try to convert them... or > make > > them see the truth as it were. > > > > Again, you may be the exception, but think about the vast majority of > > self-proclaimed Christians. We were talking about groups in general. > > > > Oh, and to the young girl with the boy problems.... dump him. He's a > pussy. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sailor6233@aol.com [mailto:Sailor6233@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:57 PM > > To: mike@mikevaughn.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... > > > > > > I'm a Christian, and I would welcome a homosexual, Jewish, > afro-american, > > who > > believes in a woman's right to choose, with open arms. I also believe > in a > > woman's right to choose in certain situations. > > > > ~Maggie~ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:00:49 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: tech problem: message not going to entire list In a message dated 1/21/2001 4:37:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, LiveThruThisVow writes: > > Well here's some lyrical backup if you all must STILL try and correct me > Hehehehe...okay;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:04:05 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... In a message dated 1/21/2001 5:50:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, enisley@hotmail.com writes: > em [IMAGE]a lesbian, feminist, pro-choice, anti-death penalty, > christian....among other things :) > I actually know a few of those:-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:04:24 EST From: GloryBox84@aol.com Subject: Re: dissolved girl In a message dated 1/21/2001 5:01:22 PM Central Standard Time, ragetear@earthlink.net writes: > it is DEFINATELY made to fade... im playing it wicked loud... besides "made > Well there are plenty of lyrics that don't "make sense". - - --Kim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:05:02 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR:Re: Virus Warning I also have been getting copies of mail from this haha@sexyfun.net but knew not to click on the attachment without first saving it to a folder, and then scanning that folder @ http://www.antivirus.com I had contacted the people @ security@frontiernet.net repeatedly about this source of viruses, with NO response at all, even after sending them like `10 seperate incidents. I use outlook express, so under tools, Message Rules, I made a new e-mail rule that all mail from haha@sexyfun.net be deleted @ the frontiernet.net mail server, ... the sender must have caught on because I now started to get mail with a completey blank from and subject line, you will have to copy and paste in the "sender unspecified" message the mail header contains to filter out that one. remember if you get an attachement to an e-mail, you can "save" it to another folder, usualy by clicking on it with the oppsite mouse button and chossing "save" from the popup menu. Then you can scan your entire hard drive, or just that single folder @ Http://www.antivirus.com You might also want to set up a software firewall that screens for some forms of mail buggies, my fav is Zone Alarm. It would not help in this case, but would in others. Zone Alarm has teamed up with Trend Micro and I would expect to see more mail protection in the future. if it says .exe on it and it comes in the mail BEWARE Http://www.zonelabs.com for the software firewall sp00k etc ... #### - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle" To: ; Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: Virus Warning > > Just a small warning to the list. I have been recieving an email from > haha@sexyfun.net with an attatchment, this attatchment contains a worm > virus. At this point I'm inclined to believe its coming from a member of > the list (inadvertantly). Do not open the attatchment, Delete the file > immediately. There is more info on the virus available at the website > sexyfun.net (someone bought the domain to give info). Just a warning, and > remember to not open strange attatchments without a virus scan, btw if you > use hotmail it automatically scans for viruses, so if your really curious > you can forward the message and read it safely from there. > Kyle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:21:19 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: Re: disolved girl lyrics all i know is that made to fade makes more sence and everytime i listen i try and figure it out and even if i try to make myself hear "made the fade" i cant all i can hear is made to fade oh well i 'll just let it be made to fade in my head at least ~~e In a message dated 1/21/2001 6:08:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, ragetear@earthlink.net writes: ok fine so you were right ! *pouts* ~e Hehehehe...who knows...maybe it is a misprint:-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:31:47 EST From: GloryBox84@aol.com Subject: Re: dissolved girl In a message dated 1/21/2001 3:01:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, ragetear@earthlink.net writes: > btw does anyone have a copy of the mp3 that doesnt have that annoying glitch > one line er two before the made TO fade line? i cant seem to find i good > copy and dont know anyone with the cd... oh on that note.. does anyone have > The jacket doesn't have the lyrics. A lot of artists (like Garbage, REM) don't print them because they're constantly changing or they want to leave them open to listeners' interpretations. - - --Kim ~*You gotta have fear in your heart*~ -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:34:51 EST From: SpArKi00@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #25 crystle your b/f blows the big one & u shood dump him! (i only say this cuz i love you) robyn ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:37:21 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: fade, made THE fade OK... First off, the cover does not offer lyrics. Secondly, not every lyric is so obvious that it "makes sense" at face value. Third off, buy the cd before you judge a lyric on an MP3. If you failed to go to the website, here's a copy of the lyrics off of the website :) Dissolved Girl (Vowles, Del naja, Marshall, Sara Jay, Schwartz) Sara Jay Shame, such a shame I think I kind of lost myself again Day, yesterday Really should be leaving but I stay Say, say my name Need a little love to ease the pain Need a little love to ease the pain It's easy to remember when it came 'Cause I feels like I've been I've been here before You are not my savior But I still don't go Feels like something That I've done before I could fake it But I still want more FADE, MADE THE FADE Passion's overrated anyway Say, say my name Need a little love to ease the pain Need a little love to ease the pain It's easy to remember when it came 'Cause I feels like I've been I've been here before You are not my savior But I still don't go And I feel like something That I've done before And I could fake it But I still want more, oh. ~*~ Fade, made THE fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack ~*~ Grow up and be a man, drop dead right where I stand~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:08:57 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR about NPR how to NPR the NPR b00gie NPR fun Not The NRA AN AP FAQ PR FYI NPR NPR = Not Poe Related NPR If it aint ABOUT Poe please put the letters NPR in your subject line, even when you hit the REPLY button, add an NPR to it if it is NPR Not Poe Related = NPR I can forget with the best of them, but please try to use NPR if it is NPR NPR = Not Poe Related sp00k etc ... Not Poe Related = NPR If Poe is ever on NPR we are going to have real problems.... I love NPR, both kinds (National Public Radio) she should be!!!! Poe & Mark On NPR would be a natural..... if eYe was in PR I would have thought of that.... Http://Poe.Org 4 sum krazy Poe n other stuff chat. #### ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:19:48 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Dissolved Girl lyrics Uh oh...not to throw a wrench into the works (well, actually, to do exactly that) here is a link to a lyrics site which has it as "made to fade"...as opposed to the official site, which has "made the fade". Wolf's lyrics page [massive attack - mezzanine] http://lyrics.webz.cz/massive_attack/massive_mezzanine.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:52:22 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: NPR :p yeah wel i didnt know no one said anything about to intro to the list type msg... hehe and well i had thought it was national public radio... confused the hell outa me.. anyways yeah ok - ----- Original Message ----- From: sp00k@poe.org To: Angry-Psychos Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: NPR about NPR how to NPR the NPR b00gie NPR fun Not The NRA > > AN AP FAQ PR FYI NPR > > NPR = Not Poe Related > > NPR If it aint ABOUT Poe please put the letters NPR in your subject line, > even when you hit the REPLY button, add an NPR to it if it is NPR > > Not Poe Related = NPR > > I can forget with the best of them, but please try to use NPR > > if it is NPR > > NPR = Not Poe Related > > sp00k etc ... > > Not Poe Related = NPR > > If Poe is ever on NPR we are going to have real problems.... I love NPR, > both kinds > > (National Public Radio) she should be!!!! Poe & Mark On NPR would be a > natural..... > if eYe was in PR I would have thought of that.... > > Http://Poe.Org 4 sum krazy Poe n other stuff chat. > > #### ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:55:37 -0500 From: "bonanza jelly-bean" Subject: Re: fade, made THE fade yeah i went to the site... theta where i got the lyrics i posted... my comment on the logic bit was just that when i listened to the rest of the song "to" is whati heard and it made sence to me.... its all a matter if interpretation i guess.. and i would love to buy the cd but i havent found a copy at the local stores.... :) ~e > > OK... First off, the cover does not offer lyrics. Secondly, not every lyric > is so obvious that it "makes sense" at face value. Third off, buy the cd > before you judge a lyric on an MP3. If you failed to go to the website, > here's a copy of the lyrics off of the website :) Dissolved Girl (Vowles, Del > naja, Marshall, Sara Jay, Schwartz) > > Sara Jay > > Shame, such a shame > I think I kind of lost myself again > Day, yesterday > Really should be leaving but I stay > > Say, say my name > Need a little love to ease the pain > Need a little love to ease the pain > It's easy to remember when it came > > 'Cause I feels like I've been > I've been here before > You are not my savior > But I still don't go > > Feels like something > That I've done before > I could fake it > But I still want more > > FADE, MADE THE FADE > Passion's overrated anyway > Say, say my name > Need a little love to ease the pain > Need a little love to ease the pain > It's easy to remember when it came > > 'Cause I feels like I've been > I've been here before > You are not my savior > But I still don't go > > And I feel like something > That I've done before > And I could fake it > But I still want more, oh. > ~*~ Fade, made THE fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack > ~*~ Grow up and be a man, drop dead right where I stand~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:00:15 -0600 From: Erin Munster Subject: Re: NPR: manson I think Manson was on Politcally Incorrect a couple times, I remember the one with Florence Henderson (mom from The Brady Bunch) and they at one point were actaully holding hands, I must say that's the most shocking thing I've ever seen the man do. Munster bonanza jelly-bean wrote: > oh i would sooo love to see that! > > If the Politically Incorrect with Bill Mahr featuring Manson is > rerun...watch > it! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:07:56 +0000 From: Levi Chronister Subject: Re: NPR: manson Holding hands, yes, but as lovey-dovey and agreeable as they were during that taping, I'm not sure they didn't leave together as well. Levi Erin Munster wrote: > I think Manson was on Politcally Incorrect a couple times, I remember > the one with Florence Henderson (mom from The Brady Bunch) and they at > one point were actaully holding hands, I must say that's the most > shocking thing I've ever seen the man do. > Munster > > bonanza jelly-bean wrote: > > > oh i would sooo love to see that! > > > > If the Politically Incorrect with Bill Mahr featuring Manson is > > rerun...watch > > it! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:11:22 EST From: Purpulfaerie51@aol.com Subject: about me my name is amanda and i am 15.i am from california.i first heard Poe about 3 years ago from a friend who had her cd...and i borrowed it and i still have it to this day.i also listen to tori amos,fiona apple,sublime and lots of other stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:11:09 -0200 From: "Tori Amos" Subject: Re: about me Hey amanda!!!! Girl that rocks..... I love Tori and Poe to the boooooone!!!! You should get some Poe's cd they do rock....... and Tori rocks soooooo bad she's a goddess!!!! well I'm Raffa from brazil and I'm 16!! =)) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: about me > > my name is amanda and i am 15.i am from california.i first heard Poe about 3 > > years ago from a friend who had her cd...and i borrowed it and i still have > > it to this day.i also listen to tori amos,fiona apple,sublime and lots of > > other stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:15:54 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: assholes and pussies In a message dated 1/21/01 6:01:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: > First of all... if you EVER want to get laid... the rule is to be an > asshole, not a pussy. Trust me on that one, but maybe sex isn't that > important to you. Whatever. How about neither? I'm sure you have other options aside from being asshole or pussy. When I think asshole, I think pushy, manipulative...the only reason why he would get sex is because he's good at persuading some girl with low self-esteem into sex. Or he's just a rapist. Yeah, real good thing to be. ::rolls eyes:: I'd rather have the pussy. But there are things to be inbetween. How about just being yourself? If you're an asshole, I'm sorry to hear that and I hope karma is a real true thing. If you're a pussy, I wouldn't be too worried, you'll get sex sometime. It doesn't have to be now or even anytime soon. It's not that important, it's just something to do...it can be fun for some, a form of control for others, or a form of mutual emotional bonding for still others. I hate to see people get pressured just because they think it is the "normal" thing to do. Normality is relative. Yeah, so that's just my branch of thinking on this particular subject of assholes and pussies and sex. Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:23:16 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: opinions vs. numbers In a message dated 1/21/01 6:01:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: > Second, I am allowed to make "grandiose pontifications" because this is a > list of my opinions. And yes, they are emotional. But bring yourself down to > reality for a moment and think about the "Bible Belt." Limited? No. Millions > of uneducated people preaching the Christian Lifestyle... which certainly > does NOT include gays, minorities, etc. Wake the fuck up, Kyle. Opinions are little beliefs. Not always true. What you said you implied as fact. Not the same thing. Numbers are numbers, you can't have an opinion as to how many people are doing something. You can have an estimate, a hypothesis, whatever you want to call it, but an opinion is an entirely different thing. Yeah, so wake the fuck up. :) Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:26:02 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #27 In a message dated 1/21/01 6:01:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: > Blind? Illogical? Wrong? Maybe. But then I've lived overseas and done more > with my life in 29 years than you probably ever have. Watch who you label as > having "limited exposure." You're full of shit and I'm calling you on it > now. I don't think being overseas really qualifies you as not having limited exposure, since it really depends on whether or not your eyes and ears were open, and your thoughts were open as well. Well, I've said my piece on this argument. I'll go back to my corner until something perks my interest again. Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:46:10 EST From: Freakbaby101@cs.com Subject: (no subject) 1) i am melissa 2) i am from cleveland ohio 3) i am 22 4) i first heard POE on the radio back on her first album I love poe her voice is great even live that is really hard to come by nowadays and her lyrics really hit home . I like alot of different music: slipknot, kittie, nirvana, weezer, no doubt, slaves on dope, staind and many more melissa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:12:57 EST From: BUDave18@aol.com Subject: Re: assholes and pussies In a message dated 1/22/01 11:55:52 AM, Dracovixen@aol.com writes: << and I hope karma is a real true thing. >> "Karma" is a real thing. Its an AMAZING CD by DELERIUM. They're a phat tribaly/ambienty/dreamy/gothicy type band. Aka- Front Line Assembly, Synaesthesia. BUY the CD "KARMA" -- it is a real and true and AMAZING thing :) heh heh i aint funny i know, but buy it anyways peace, Seb :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:36:59 -0500 From: Rick Joyce Subject: Golden Globes... THE WEST WING WON! And so did Martin Sheen! WOOHOO!!! But Bjork and Cusack didn't win! BOOOOOOO!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:33:56 -0800 (PST) From: mark alec Subject: npr Re: (no subject) glad to have you aboard. looks like we have another oap (ohio ap).. we're the only regional group that matters. ::smiles and waves at soap, ecap, wcap, fap and all the others too (at least i didn't forsake fap, heh heh):: anyhow, mel, glad to have you among us. we're kind of an... odd lot of people.... - --- Freakbaby101@cs.com wrote: > > 1) i am melissa > 2) i am from cleveland ohio > 3) i am 22 > 4) i first heard POE on the radio back on her first > album > > > I love poe her voice is great even live that is > really hard to come by > nowadays and her lyrics really hit home . > > I like alot of different music: slipknot, kittie, > nirvana, weezer, no doubt, > slaves on dope, staind and many more > > melissa ===== mark alec http://www.worldofalec.org/ or... alec@poe.org http://www.geocities.com/--alec--/ http://www.themestream.com/ the no-quote signature.. Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:35:17 EST From: GloryBox84@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: manson In a message dated 1/21/2001 6:25:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, munster@cloudnet.com writes: > think Manson was on Politcally Incorrect a couple times, I remember > the one with Florence Henderson (mom from The Brady Bunch) and they at > one point were actaully holding hands, I must say that's the most > shocking thing I've ever seen the man do. > Just to let everyone know...He and Rose McGowan broke off their engagement. - - --Kim ~*You gotta have fear in your heart*~ -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:40:33 EST From: KBrooke311@cs.com Subject: Hello everyone Hello, I'm new to this whole thing. My name is Brooke Frizzell and I'm from Charleston, South Carolina. I'm nineteen years old and I first heard of Poe four years ago when I was a junior in high school. I have alot of different musical interests. I listen to Bob Dylan, The Doors, CKY, The Beatles, HIM, Beastie Boys, Tom Petty, and Elvis Presely. I'm in college right now studying art history. I think I just might become a professional student though! This message thing is all new to me, I'm a member of message forums but I can't quite figure out how this thing works yet. Oh well, I'm learning and I just wanted to say "HI". Thanks.... Brooke ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:42:42 -0200 From: "Tori Amos" Subject: Re: opinions vs. numbers Dear Black Dove I think it's ridiculous that someone have prejudgments over who's gay..... or who's black or bisexual, or dragqueen or anything..... I think this world is a shit cause people who think like that still exist........ but if everyone could just see...... that there's so much more than that....... that the world isn't made by stupidity and that people are much more than a body...... they have soul...... so "who ever has never sinned before........ throw the first rock..." I don't believe in god but that was a clever thing to say..... Psycho Tori - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:23 AM Subject: Re: opinions vs. numbers > > In a message dated 1/21/01 6:01:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, > owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: > > > Second, I am allowed to make "grandiose pontifications" because this is a > > list of my opinions. And yes, they are emotional. But bring yourself down > to > > reality for a moment and think about the "Bible Belt." Limited? No. > Millions > > of uneducated people preaching the Christian Lifestyle... which certainly > > does NOT include gays, minorities, etc. Wake the fuck up, Kyle. > > > Opinions are little beliefs. Not always true. What you said you implied as > fact. Not the same thing. Numbers are numbers, you can't have an opinion as > to how many people are doing something. You can have an estimate, a > hypothesis, whatever you want to call it, but an opinion is an entirely > different thing. > Yeah, so wake the fuck up. :) > Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:35:02 -0800 From: "Mike Vaughn" Subject: RE: Please help me out with this... Thank you for making my point, Methuselah. MikeV - -----Original Message----- From: Kyle [mailto:kbeckley@ucla.edu] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:38 AM To: Mike Vaughn; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... Mike, im only concerned with one uneducated individual... you. You have provided no evidence or logic, only conjecture and slander trust me after years in the study of logic, argumentation, philosophy and theology you are not worthy of carrying my sandles, check the email addy baby I'm full fledged turned on and you're nothing but a shriveled up dick. Try me I dare you, Flame wars are nothing to me, i care about truth which you appear to be blind to. 23 and going on Methuselah will always beat 29 and going on 12 Kyle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Vaughn" To: "Kyle" ; Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:56 AM Subject: RE: Please help me out with this... > First of all... if you EVER want to get laid... the rule is to be an > asshole, not a pussy. Trust me on that one, but maybe sex isn't that > important to you. Whatever. > > Second, I am allowed to make "grandiose pontifications" because this is a > list of my opinions. And yes, they are emotional. But bring yourself down to > reality for a moment and think about the "Bible Belt." Limited? No. Millions > of uneducated people preaching the Christian Lifestyle... which certainly > does NOT include gays, minorities, etc. Wake the fuck up, Kyle. > > Blind? Illogical? Wrong? Maybe. But then I've lived overseas and done more > with my life in 29 years than you probably ever have. Watch who you label as > having "limited exposure." You're full of shit and I'm calling you on it > now. > > Bring it on. > -MikeV > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kyle [mailto:kbeckley@ucla.edu] > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:30 PM > To: Mike Vaughn; angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... > > > First of all, I wonder at your logic...one might accuse you of the straw man > fallacy. How can you make such a grandiose pontification as "the vast > majority of self-proclaimed Christians,"? Have you spoken to the "vast > majority" yourself? Try substantiating an argument using evidence rather > than spewing emotional crap. I think to date there are over a billion > Christians, you're able to box up a sixth of the worlds population based on > your limited exposure to a small selection of the whole. You're blind, > illogical, and obviously WRONG. > Oh as far as the boyfriend response goes...better a pussy than an asshole > cheers > Kyle > > > You may be one of the few 'exceptions' but I always wonder how long you'll > > put up with those people as they are and NOT try to convert them... or > make > > them see the truth as it were. > > > > Again, you may be the exception, but think about the vast majority of > > self-proclaimed Christians. We were talking about groups in general. > > > > Oh, and to the young girl with the boy problems.... dump him. He's a > pussy. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sailor6233@aol.com [mailto:Sailor6233@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:57 PM > > To: mike@mikevaughn.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... > > > > > > I'm a Christian, and I would welcome a homosexual, Jewish, afro-american, > > who > > believes in a woman's right to choose, with open arms. I also believe in a > > woman's right to choose in certain situations. > > > > ~Maggie~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:19:15 EST From: GloryBox84@aol.com Subject: Re: Golden Globes... In a message dated 1/21/2001 9:03:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, nvrmind@erols.com writes: > But Bjork and Cusack didn't win! BOOOOOOO!!! > Bjork's performance in Dancer in the Dark was the best acting I have EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER seen....EVER EVER EVER. One of my friends said that people had told her they walked out halfway into the movie. I cant IMAGINE why. That was the first time I cried ON THE WAY HOME from a movie. What makes Dancer in the Dark the best movie of the year is (among MANY other things), is that typically in movies with vulnerable female characters, any chance to make them look sexy is taken. Any time a woman is in prison, there's the need to put her in a tank-top (and bra-less, of course). You don't see that in Dancer in the Dark. They didn't have to distract the audience with tits to make up for a lack of plot line. It wasn't cheapened by sex. But of course thats worthless to the Gloden fuckin Globes. Death to Hollywood bullshit!!! - - --Kim ~*You gotta have fear in your heart*~ -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:46:25 -0800 From: "Mike Vaughn" Subject: RE: NPR assholes and pussies You're right. I should be more clear. By asshole, I mean a guy who is a follower of Lykis 101 (see http://www.blowmeuptom.com). Pushy, manipulative, and forceful are NOT the qualities I meant. What I should have said is: if you want to have more successful female relationships DON'T call them after a first date, DON'T spend lots of money on them (as little as possible actually), DON'T send flowers early in the relationship, and DON'T date single mothers... unless you want an insta-family (just add water). That was the asshole type I was trying to describe. Pussies are the guys who get dumped when get all serious, mushy, and co-dependent after one or two dates. Does that make sense. It's really about being yourself... with a little self confidence. ahhhhhh, all better. - -MikeV - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Dracovixen@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:16 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: assholes and pussies In a message dated 1/21/01 6:01:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: > First of all... if you EVER want to get laid... the rule is to be an > asshole, not a pussy. Trust me on that one, but maybe sex isn't that > important to you. Whatever. How about neither? I'm sure you have other options aside from being asshole or pussy. When I think asshole, I think pushy, manipulative...the only reason why he would get sex is because he's good at persuading some girl with low self-esteem into sex. Or he's just a rapist. Yeah, real good thing to be. ::rolls eyes:: I'd rather have the pussy. But there are things to be inbetween. How about just being yourself? If you're an asshole, I'm sorry to hear that and I hope karma is a real true thing. If you're a pussy, I wouldn't be too worried, you'll get sex sometime. It doesn't have to be now or even anytime soon. It's not that important, it's just something to do...it can be fun for some, a form of control for others, or a form of mutual emotional bonding for still others. I hate to see people get pressured just because they think it is the "normal" thing to do. Normality is relative. Yeah, so that's just my branch of thinking on this particular subject of assholes and pussies and sex. Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 03:30:58 -0200 From: "Tori Amos" Subject: Re: (no subject) Hey melissa........ it kick ass that u like weenzer and kittie!!!!!! the girls from kittie are daaaaaaaamn hot lol lol Psycho Tori - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:46 AM Subject: (no subject) > > 1) i am melissa > 2) i am from cleveland ohio > 3) i am 22 > 4) i first heard POE on the radio back on her first album > > > I love poe her voice is great even live that is really hard to come by > nowadays and her lyrics really hit home . > > I like alot of different music: slipknot, kittie, nirvana, weezer, no doubt, > slaves on dope, staind and many more > > melissa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:32:53 -0800 (PST) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: Re: opinions vs. numbers - ---I hate that alot of my fellow 'Christians' always forget that Jesus once told his disciples that if they go to a town and nobody wants to listen to them, that they should, "dust off their feet, and move along." Where did Christians take the wrong turn and learn that being intolerant of other peoples' beliefs and ways was okay? I know MY Jesus Christ didn't teach intolerance, he hung out with tax-collectors and prostitutes. - ---It would be real easy to blame it on the devil, but too bad I don't believe in him(that's another topic in itself). - ---I think Jesus was a Buddhist. - ---Jobe Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:56:51 -0800 (PST) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: NPR: ... what the hell is Methuselah?? - ---I don't know what Methuselah is, but do I know one thing... I'm only 21 and I'm already tired of the two of you fighting like third-graders, why don't both of you grow up and realize that neither one of you is going to convince the other that you're right. Either that or at least carry on your "flame wars" in private so the rest of us don't have to read about your meaningless cock-fighting. - ---Besides the only people that are always right is me and my fellow SOAPs. TAKE THAT OAPs!!! - ---Jobe - --- Mike Vaughn wrote: > > Thank you for making my point, Methuselah. > > > MikeV > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kyle [mailto:kbeckley@ucla.edu] > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:38 AM > To: Mike Vaughn; angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... > > > Mike, im only concerned with one uneducated > individual... you. You have > provided no evidence or logic, only conjecture and > slander trust me after > years in the study of logic, argumentation, > philosophy and theology you are > not worthy of carrying my sandles, check the email > addy baby I'm full > fledged turned on and you're nothing but a shriveled > up dick. > Try me I dare you, > Flame wars are nothing to me, i care about truth > which you appear to be blind to. > 23 and going on Methuselah will always beat 29 and > going on 12 > Kyle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Vaughn" > To: "Kyle" ; > > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:56 AM > Subject: RE: Please help me out with this... > > > > First of all... if you EVER want to get laid... > the rule is to be an > > asshole, not a pussy. Trust me on that one, but > maybe sex isn't that > > important to you. Whatever. > > > > Second, I am allowed to make "grandiose > pontifications" because this is a > > list of my opinions. And yes, they are emotional. > But bring yourself down > to > > reality for a moment and think about the "Bible > Belt." Limited? No. > Millions > > of uneducated people preaching the Christian > Lifestyle... which certainly > > does NOT include gays, minorities, etc. Wake the > fuck up, Kyle. > > > > Blind? Illogical? Wrong? Maybe. But then I've > lived overseas and done more > > with my life in 29 years than you probably ever > have. Watch who you label > as > > having "limited exposure." You're full of shit and > I'm calling you on it > > now. > > > > Bring it on. > > -MikeV > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kyle [mailto:kbeckley@ucla.edu] > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:30 PM > > To: Mike Vaughn; angry-psychos@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... > > > > > > First of all, I wonder at your logic...one might > accuse you of the straw > man > > fallacy. How can you make such a grandiose > pontification as "the vast > > majority of self-proclaimed Christians,"? Have you > spoken to the "vast > > majority" yourself? Try substantiating an argument > using evidence rather > > than spewing emotional crap. I think to date there > are over a billion > > Christians, you're able to box up a sixth of the > worlds population based > on > > your limited exposure to a small selection of the > whole. You're blind, > > illogical, and obviously WRONG. > > Oh as far as the boyfriend response goes...better > a pussy than an asshole > > cheers > > Kyle > > > > > You may be one of the few 'exceptions' but I > always wonder how long > you'll > > > put up with those people as they are and NOT try > to convert them... or > > make > > > them see the truth as it were. > > > > > > Again, you may be the exception, but think about > the vast majority of > > > self-proclaimed Christians. We were talking > about groups in general. > > > > > > Oh, and to the young girl with the boy > problems.... dump him. He's a > > pussy. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Sailor6233@aol.com > [mailto:Sailor6233@aol.com] > > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:57 PM > > > To: mike@mikevaughn.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org > > > Subject: Re: Please help me out with this... > > > > > > > > > I'm a Christian, and I would welcome a > homosexual, Jewish, > afro-american, > > > who > > > believes in a woman's right to choose, with open > arms. I also believe in > a > > > woman's right to choose in certain situations. > > > > > > ~Maggie~ Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #28 **********************************