From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V5 #327 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, December 10 2000 Volume 05 : Number 327 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Rare POE Cover On E-Bay ["dan k. williams" ] Re: Tad Danielewski's films ["Matthew Hyner" ] NPR: Friendship dillemma, please help. ["Crazy Little" ] Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. ["Crazy Little" ] Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. ["Crazy Little" ] re: Dar Williams Christians And Pagans [PussyCat Moore ] Re: NPR: Virus Scan For ICQ [KrodKnid@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 08:49:12 -0500 From: "dan k. williams" Subject: Rare POE Cover On E-Bay POE Cover on http://www.ebay.com Item # 519111158. Poe on the cover of TAONOISE magazine, this was her 1st interview and the first issue of the magazine. Very rare, magazine almost impossible to find. This copy orgonates from the publisher who only has 2 copies. Only one for sale. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 09:13:48 -0500 From: "Matthew Hyner" Subject: Re: Tad Danielewski's films Here are reviews from tvguide.com on two of Tad Danielewski's films...wow one from the 1960's and has a lesbian in it. Hard to imagine, doubt it could of done to well at that time. No Exit - 1962, 3 stars This is a filmed adaptation of the famous existentialist drama by Sartre. Three total strangers--a noted journalist (Sterne), a narcissistic social-climbing wife (Gam), and a lesbian (Lindfors)--are ushered into a brightly lit hotel room. It becomes apparent that this is eternity, and they are to spend it together in this uncomfortable fashion. The group splits up, with each person trying to kill the others but eventually developing little more than contempt for one another. Their real stories are soon discovered: Sterne was shot for cowardice; Gam was a sex-crazed woman who married for money, then killed her baby before destroying her husband; and Lindfors killed herself after seducing a married woman and driving her to suicide. There is a terrific fight when Gam tries to stab Lindfors with a paper knife. Finally, the three realize that this is how they are to spend eternity, and they break out in a hysterical fit of laughter before falling silent. The Guide - 1965, 3.5 stars Raju (Dev Anand) is a cocky young man employed as a tour guide in an Indian village. He is hired by Marco (Sahu), an archeologist, to show his wife Rosie (gorgeous Waheeda Rehman), around the area's ruins. Raju seduces Rosie and offers to help her return to a dancing career. Her husband leaves her, and she becomes the younger man's mistress. When she becomes famous, she leaves Raju, who is eventually jailed for forgery. After his release, he wanders the deserted ruins and is mistaken by villagers for a spiritual leader. He plays the part for them and vows to end a drought by fasting. Distinguished by its catchy S.D. Burman score and several delirious dance numbers. The story was novelist Pearl Buck's only screenplay. > Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 22:37:22 -0500 > From: "Stephen van Vuuren" > Subject: Tad Danielewski's films > > Does anyone know where to obtain Tad Danielewski films? ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:18:08 -0800 From: "Crazy Little" Subject: NPR: Friendship dillemma, please help. My ex-girlfriend (from an intensely close relationship of 2 years) and I have been rebuilding a delicate friendship ever since we broke up in June. Since that time, she has been going on a merry-go-round of all of her "guy friends" who were hanging around during our relationship. Since I still care about her, (caring more than just a friend, but limiting it to friendship terms) the aftermath of her actions is wreaking havoc on my own sanity. She's currently on guy #4, who isn't any better than the other three, and while I want to be there to support her (esp. because this guy is a guaranteed loser) I don't know if I can - or even should - deal with the impact on my own feelings. My dilemma is this: I've written a letter which I intend to read to her in person so that we can talk about it. It's a good-bye letter where upon I bear my soul to her, and name the reasons why I cannot be her friend anymore. The problem is that Sunday is her birthday, and with Christmas approaching, it's kind of a shity time of year for this to happen. But it needs to happen soon. I need input on when I should present this to her: before / on / just after her birthday, and / or whether I should even carry this out. The letter itself and some details are provided on a small website that I put up at http://www.nekosuki.com Thanks - -Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 08:18:51 -0800 From: "Crazy Little" Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. Please be sure to read the letter. It clears up most questions that people might have. The letter is at http://www.nekosuki.com Also, AOL or AIM users can send me msgs at "crazyltl". If I'm at my keyboard, I'll probably msg back. The question I'm asking (mainly) is this: When should I give her the unfriendly letter? Today? (the day before her birthday?) Tomorrow, (on her birthday itself), or the day after her birthday? Or if you don't agree and suggest something else, what do you think? Thanks - -Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: Crazy Little To: Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 7:18 AM Subject: NPR: Friendship dillemma, please help. > > My ex-girlfriend (from an intensely close relationship of 2 years) and I have been rebuilding a delicate friendship ever since we broke up in June. Since that time, she has been going on a merry-go-round of all of her "guy friends" who were hanging around during our relationship. Since I still care about her, (caring more than just a friend, but limiting it to friendship terms) the aftermath of her actions is wreaking havoc on my own sanity. She's currently on guy #4, who isn't any better than the other three, and while I want to be there to support her (esp. because this guy is a guaranteed loser) I don't know if I can - or even should - deal with the impact on my own feelings. > > My dilemma is this: I've written a letter which I intend to read to her in person so that we can talk about it. It's a good-bye letter where upon I bear my soul to her, and name the reasons why I cannot be her friend anymore. The problem is that Sunday is her birthday, and with Christmas approaching, it's kind of a shity time of year for this to happen. But it needs to happen soon. I need input on when I should present this to her: before / on / just after her birthday, and / or whether I should even carry this out. > > The letter itself and some details are provided on a small website that I put up at http://www.nekosuki.com > > Thanks > > -Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:31:23 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: VH1 vs. MTV Out of the 2, I definitly prefer VH1. At least when they're not playing videos, they have music related shows. The List, Behind the Music, Legends, etc. VH1 also recognizes a wide variety of artists that aren't all pop. They recognize folk artists as well as the main stream. ~*~ Fade, made the fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack ~*~ Grow up and be a man, drop dead right where I stand~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 11:36:09 -0600 From: "Stephen LeFain" Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. Well, I'm new to the list, but you and I have somethings in common my friend. Been there, done that. I tried the "friend" thing with my ex for a while. We were "friends" right up until whe found a new guy, they I got the cold shoulder. You are being used as a "dick-in-glass". In case of lack of boyfriend, break glass. Get it? She's keeping you around as a backup plan. I'm not trying to be mean, it just sounds like a similar situation I had going on. The question you need to ask is just what kind of a friend does she look to you as? Do you just hang out and talk or does she bare her soul to you on a regular basis. If it is the first, drop the letter ASAP and get on with putting you life back together. If it is the second, your going to have to be more delicate. Use the holidays as an excuse the distance yourself from her. Nothing sux more than a letter like this during the holidays (I should know, that's how my ex dumped me, Merry Christmas, eh?). But on January 1st, drop the letter. From what i got from the letter, she needs you for what you can give HER (computer?, rides? etc...). Its gonna hurt like hell and it won't be easy, but if you want to save your sanity, your making the right choice. I just wish someone had kicked me in the ass and told me the same thing. Good luck. >From: "Crazy Little" >To: >Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. >Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 08:18:51 -0800 > > >Please be sure to read the letter. It clears up most questions that people >might have. >The letter is at http://www.nekosuki.com > >Also, AOL or AIM users can send me msgs at "crazyltl". If I'm at my >keyboard, I'll probably msg back. > >The question I'm asking (mainly) is this: When should I give her the >unfriendly letter? Today? (the day before her birthday?) Tomorrow, (on her >birthday itself), or the day after her birthday? Or if you don't agree and >suggest something else, what do you think? > >Thanks >-Chris > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Crazy Little >To: >Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 7:18 AM >Subject: NPR: Friendship dillemma, please help. > > > > > > My ex-girlfriend (from an intensely close relationship of 2 years) and I >have been rebuilding a delicate friendship ever since we broke up in June. >Since that time, she has been going on a merry-go-round of all of her "guy >friends" who were hanging around during our relationship. Since I still >care about her, (caring more than just a friend, but limiting it to >friendship terms) the aftermath of her actions is wreaking havoc on my own >sanity. She's currently on guy #4, who isn't any better than the other >three, and while I want to be there to support her (esp. because this guy >is a guaranteed loser) I don't know if I can - or even should - deal with >the impact on my own feelings. > > > > My dilemma is this: I've written a letter which I intend to read to her >in person so that we can talk about it. It's a good-bye letter where upon >I bear my soul to her, and name the reasons why I cannot be her friend >anymore. The problem is that Sunday is her birthday, and with Christmas >approaching, it's kind of a shity time of year for this to happen. But it >needs to happen soon. I need input on when I should present this to her: >before / on / just after her birthday, and / or whether I should even carry >this out. > > > > The letter itself and some details are provided on a small website that >I put up at http://www.nekosuki.com > > > > Thanks > > > > -Chris _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 11:36:25 -0600 From: "Stephen LeFain" Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. Well, I'm new to the list, but you and I have somethings in common my friend. Been there, done that. I tried the "friend" thing with my ex for a while. We were "friends" right up until whe found a new guy, they I got the cold shoulder. You are being used as a "dick-in-glass". In case of lack of boyfriend, break glass. Get it? She's keeping you around as a backup plan. I'm not trying to be mean, it just sounds like a similar situation I had going on. The question you need to ask is just what kind of a friend does she look to you as? Do you just hang out and talk or does she bare her soul to you on a regular basis. If it is the first, drop the letter ASAP and get on with putting you life back together. If it is the second, your going to have to be more delicate. Use the holidays as an excuse the distance yourself from her. Nothing sux more than a letter like this during the holidays (I should know, that's how my ex dumped me, Merry Christmas, eh?). But on January 1st, drop the letter. From what i got from the letter, she needs you for what you can give HER (computer?, rides? etc...). Its gonna hurt like hell and it won't be easy, but if you want to save your sanity, your making the right choice. I just wish someone had kicked me in the ass and told me the same thing. Good luck. Brian >From: "Crazy Little" >To: >Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. >Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 08:18:51 -0800 > > >Please be sure to read the letter. It clears up most questions that people >might have. >The letter is at http://www.nekosuki.com > >Also, AOL or AIM users can send me msgs at "crazyltl". If I'm at my >keyboard, I'll probably msg back. > >The question I'm asking (mainly) is this: When should I give her the >unfriendly letter? Today? (the day before her birthday?) Tomorrow, (on her >birthday itself), or the day after her birthday? Or if you don't agree and >suggest something else, what do you think? > >Thanks >-Chris > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Crazy Little >To: >Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 7:18 AM >Subject: NPR: Friendship dillemma, please help. > > > > > > My ex-girlfriend (from an intensely close relationship of 2 years) and I >have been rebuilding a delicate friendship ever since we broke up in June. >Since that time, she has been going on a merry-go-round of all of her "guy >friends" who were hanging around during our relationship. Since I still >care about her, (caring more than just a friend, but limiting it to >friendship terms) the aftermath of her actions is wreaking havoc on my own >sanity. She's currently on guy #4, who isn't any better than the other >three, and while I want to be there to support her (esp. because this guy >is a guaranteed loser) I don't know if I can - or even should - deal with >the impact on my own feelings. > > > > My dilemma is this: I've written a letter which I intend to read to her >in person so that we can talk about it. It's a good-bye letter where upon >I bear my soul to her, and name the reasons why I cannot be her friend >anymore. The problem is that Sunday is her birthday, and with Christmas >approaching, it's kind of a shity time of year for this to happen. But it >needs to happen soon. I need input on when I should present this to her: >before / on / just after her birthday, and / or whether I should even carry >this out. > > > > The letter itself and some details are provided on a small website that >I put up at http://www.nekosuki.com > > > > Thanks > > > > -Chris _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:07:06 EST From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. Dr. Drew is right. In a message dated 12/9/00 12:54:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, slefain@hotmail.com writes: > Well, I'm new to the list, but you and I have somethings in common my > friend. Been there, done that. I tried the "friend" thing with my ex for a > while. We were "friends" right up until whe found a new guy, they I got the > cold shoulder. You are being used as a "dick-in-glass". In case of lack of > boyfriend, break glass. Get it? She's keeping you around as a backup plan. > I'm not trying to be mean, it just sounds like a similar situation I had > going on. The question you need to ask is just what kind of a friend does > she look to you as? Do you just hang out and talk or does she bare her soul > to you on a regular basis. If it is the first, drop the letter ASAP and get > on with putting you life back together. If it is the second, your going to > have to be more delicate. Use the holidays as an excuse the distance > yourself from her. Nothing sux more than a letter like this during the > holidays (I should know, that's how my ex dumped me, Merry Christmas, eh?). > But on January 1st, drop the letter. From what i got from the letter, she > needs you for what you can give HER (computer?, rides? etc...). Its gonna > hurt like hell and it won't be easy, but if you want to save your sanity, > your making the right choice. I just wish someone had kicked me in the ass > and told me the same thing. Good luck. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:40:45 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. In a message dated 12/9/00 11:54:04 AM Central Standard Time, slefain@hotmail.com writes: > Hate to say it, but he's right. I've had this happen to me as well although I'm not a guy but it happens to chicks, too. The sad thing is that after an ex of mine broke up with me we tried the whole friendship thing but it's just an easier way of breaking up. We were friends for about 2 years before we were together and we were together for about a year before things fell apart. You only stay friends for about 2 months max after a breakup until you realize that you can't stay friends because it hurts when you hear about your other half starting something with someone else. Girls AND guys tend to stay friends with their exes because they DO want a back up just in case the other relationship doesn't work out. I'm not saying that this is how ALL people are but people I know of. In my opinion you should stay away from her at all costs because watching her do this is only going to hurt you further. You have to accept the reality that the chances are nil of you and your ex getting back together. You don't have to be unfriendly with her if you run into her, but staying buddy/buddy is only going to hurt you more. Good luck... ~*~ Fade, made the fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack ~*~ Grow up and be a man, drop dead right where I stand~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:06:35 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR: Virus Scan For ICQ Free software uses new technology to intercept; filter, and virus scan all files received when using the popular ICQ instant messaging software http://www.avx.com/avx4icq.html MEDINA, Ohio November 09, 2000 -- Central Command and its partners today announced the availability of AVX for ICQ, a free security and virus protection solution for all ICQ instant messaging software users world wide. AVX for ICQ defends against more than 46,000 known and unknown viruses, trojans, scripts and other harmful applications that could be transferred through ICQ. ICQ's instant messaging has exceeded over 81 million users worldwide and is an easy and efficient way to communicate over the Internet. 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OK add this to your free firewall, http://zonelabs.com and your free online virus scan http://www.antivirus.com sp00k etc ... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where Shes @ ??!! http://Poe.Org Visit My "POE" Place http://www.sp00k.com 3 INDIE Rock Grrlz http://EmberSwift.com Hear What I Hear ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live.ram 80K Feed ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live2.ram ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:11:53 -0800 From: "Crazy Little" Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. Yes, so I'm breaking up my friendship with her, but _when_ should I do it? Before, after, or on the day of her birthday? (Which is tomorrow.) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. > > In a message dated 12/9/00 11:54:04 AM Central Standard Time, > slefain@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > Hate to say it, but he's right. I've had this happen to me as well > although I'm not a guy but it happens to chicks, too. The sad thing is that > after an ex of mine broke up with me we tried the whole friendship thing but > it's just an easier way of breaking up. We were friends for about 2 years > before we were together and we were together for about a year before things > fell apart. You only stay friends for about 2 months max after a breakup > until you realize that you can't stay friends because it hurts when you hear > about your other half starting something with someone else. Girls AND guys > tend to stay friends with their exes because they DO want a back up just in > case the other relationship doesn't work out. I'm not saying that this is how > ALL people are but people I know of. In my opinion you should stay away from > her at all costs because watching her do this is only going to hurt you > further. You have to accept the reality that the chances are nil of you and > your ex getting back together. You don't have to be unfriendly with her if > you run into her, but staying buddy/buddy is only going to hurt you more. > Good luck... > > ~*~ Fade, made the fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack > ~*~ Grow up and be a man, drop dead right where I stand~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:01:03 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR: 1 Browser 30 Windows h3ll0 u PsYcHoS It has been awhile since I seen a hunk of software to get excited about. http://www.netbility.com/NET_P-02.html TabSurf 2000 is just what the doctor ordered, for people like me who must open 10 or 20 instances of a web browser to keep you busy. I'm having much fun with this, simply drag a URL to a tab and it opens on that page, comes with 26 blank tabs, open all your favorite music sites, like http://poe.org http://angry-psychos.com fill up all the tabs, then SAVE that configuration for another time. Do a search and drag the URL's to a tab, or open up one of your favorite "links" pages, also lays all of your favorites out in one long list, you will appreciate the beauty of this when you come back to your computer after a few hours away, and all those pages are visable by tab, take it from an Angry-Psycho, this is g00d for the head. The company says: TabSurf 2000 - Introduction TabSurf 2000 is a FREE web browser that offers users an extraordinary and unique Internet experience. The browser allows the user to view, at the click of a mouse, up to 30 web pages at once. Unlike traditional browsers that only let a user navigate back and forth from individual pages while surfing the net - Tabsurf 2000 allows the user to simply click on a tab and instantly navigate to that page. This is achieved without having to open multiple windows. Users can also save their 30-tab configuration as a separate "set-up" on hard disk and can store an unlimited (limited only by available disk memory) number of different "set-ups". These setups can be grouped for easy access. Examples would be a collection of music sites, business sites or stock sites. Any number of groups of sites can be ready to load in an instant. I sense some great creative possibilities here, so I thought I'd pass it along, also I checked http://www.tucows.com for similiar software, there are a couple, but I think this is still tops, VERY user friendly, intuitive, lots of fun features. Get back your desk top and your task bar..... sp00k etc ... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where Shes @ ??!! http://Poe.Org Visit My "POE" Place http://www.sp00k.com 3 INDIE Rock Grrlz http://EmberSwift.com Hear What I Hear ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live.ram 80K Feed ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live2.ram ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 14:03:38 -0800 From: "Crazy Little" Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. Thanks for your suggestions. I've figured out what I'm going to do, and hopefully everything will turn out for the best. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 18:17:20 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: 5&1/2 Minute Hallway I'm so happy I learned how to play 5&1/2 Minute Hallway on my gee-tar!!! It has a lot of damn bar-chords on there which are my weakness but it's cool :) :) ~*~ Fade, made the fade, passion's overrated anyway~ Massive Attack ~*~ Grow up and be a man, drop dead right where I stand~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:43:04 -0800 (PST) From: APRIL BUCHER Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. I completely agree with Stephen. Waiting to give her this letter only makes things worse on YOU...and she obviously didn't lose sleep worrying about how her previous actions made you feel... If I were you I wouldn't pospone it. You have the right to voice how you feel, and the sooner you get things off your chest, the sooner you can heal. Just my two cents! ~April Stephen LeFain wrote: Well, I'm new to the list, but you and I have somethings in common my friend. Been there, done that. I tried the "friend" thing with my ex for a while. We were "friends" right up until whe found a new guy, they I got the cold shoulder. You are being used as a "dick-in-glass". In case of lack of boyfriend, break glass. Get it? She's keeping you around as a backup plan. I'm not trying to be mean, it just sounds like a similar situation I had going on. The question you need to ask is just what kind of a friend does she look to you as? Do you just hang out and talk or does she bare her soul to you on a regular basis. If it is the first, drop the letter ASAP and get on with putting you life back together. If it is the second, your going to have to be more delicate. Use the holidays as an excuse the distance yourself from her. Nothing sux more than a letter like this during the holidays (I should know, that's how my ex dumped me, Merry Christmas, eh?). But on January 1st, drop the letter. From what i got from the letter, she needs you for what you can give HER (computer?, rides? etc...). Its gonna hurt like hell and it won't be easy, but if you want to save your sanity, your making the right choice. I just wish someone had kicked me in the ass and told me the same thing. Good luck. >From: "Crazy Little" >To: >Subject: Re: Friendship dillemma, please help. >Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 08:18:51 -0800 > > >Please be sure to read the letter. It clears up most questions that people >might have. >The letter is at http://www.nekosuki.com > >Also, AOL or AIM users can send me msgs at "crazyltl". If I'm at my >keyboard, I'll probably msg back. > >The question I'm asking (mainly) is this: When should I give her the >unfriendly letter? Today? (the day before her birthday?) Tomorrow, (on her >birthday itself), or the day after her birthday? Or if you don't agree and >suggest something else, what do you think? > >Thanks >-Chris > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Crazy Little >To: >Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 7:18 AM >Subject: NPR: Friendship dillemma, please help. > > > > > > My ex-girlfriend (from an intensely close relationship of 2 years) and I >have been rebuilding a delicate friendship ever since we broke up in June. >Since that time, she has been going on a merry-go-round of all of her "guy >friends" who were hanging around during our relationship. Since I still >care about her, (caring more than just a friend, but limiting it to >friendship terms) the aftermath of her actions is wreaking havoc on my own >sanity. She's currently on guy #4, who isn't any better than the other >three, and while I want to be there to support her (esp. because this guy >is a guaranteed loser) I don't know if I can - or even should - deal with >the impact on my own feelings. > > > > My dilemma is this: I've written a letter which I intend to read to her >in person so that we can talk about it. It's a good-bye letter where upon >I bear my soul to her, and name the reasons why I cannot be her friend >anymore. The problem is that Sunday is her birthday, and with Christmas >approaching, it's kind of a shity time of year for this to happen. But it >needs to happen soon. I need input on when I should present this to her: >before / on / just after her birthday, and / or whether I should even carry >this out. > > > > The letter itself and some details are provided on a small website that >I put up at http://www.nekosuki.com > > > > Thanks > > > > -Chris _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:47:35 -0800 (PST) From: PussyCat Moore Subject: re: Dar Williams Christians And Pagans that was a lovely poem... - -heather- Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:49:54 -0800 From: "Mike Vaughn" Subject: RE: Friendship dilemma, please help. It sounds like you've already made up your mind, but here's what I think you should do: #1. Don't call, write, say, or DO ANYTHING with this chick or the other guys. NOTHING!!!! #2. If she tries to contact you... IGNORE HER!!!! #3. Move on. There are better women EVERYWHERE. Besides how many more "friends" do you need anyway? #4. Have a stack of rubbers readily available for all the new women who will now love the more confident you. And don't be surprised if the ex comes crawling back BEGGING for a relationship that's "more than friends." Dude, I've been there (& back) and you're approach below is pointless. Worse than that, you look and sound like a pussy. Check out the Simpson's episode where Lisa falls for Nelson. More specifically, check out when Lisa asks the whipped Millhouse to deliver a note to Nelson and Millhouse thinks "...she's bound to respect me when she sees that I'll do anything for her." Get it? Do NOTHING and move on. It's hard, but the reward is much greater than you can imagine. Not meaning to be a dick, but telling it like it is... Your pal, Mike V - -----Original Message----- >From: Crazy Little >To: >Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 7:18 AM >Subject: NPR: Friendship dillemma, please help. > > > > > > My ex-girlfriend (from an intensely close relationship of 2 years) and I >have been rebuilding a delicate friendship ever since we broke up in June. >Since that time, she has been going on a merry-go-round of all of her "guy >friends" who were hanging around during our relationship. Since I still >care about her, (caring more than just a friend, but limiting it to >friendship terms) the aftermath of her actions is wreaking havoc on my own >sanity. She's currently on guy #4, who isn't any better than the other >three, and while I want to be there to support her (esp. because this guy >is a guaranteed loser) I don't know if I can - or even should - deal with >the impact on my own feelings. > > > > My dilemma is this: I've written a letter which I intend to read to her >in person so that we can talk about it. It's a good-bye letter where upon >I bear my soul to her, and name the reasons why I cannot be her friend >anymore. The problem is that Sunday is her birthday, and with Christmas >approaching, it's kind of a shity time of year for this to happen. But it >needs to happen soon. I need input on when I should present this to her: >before / on / just after her birthday, and / or whether I should even carry >this out. > > > > The letter itself and some details are provided on a small website that >I put up at http://www.nekosuki.com > > > > Thanks > > > > -Chris ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 19:54:00 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Virus Scan For ICQ In a message dated 12/9/00 3:28:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, rmorale2@rochester.rr.com writes: > OK add this to your free firewall, http://zonelabs.com and your free online > virus scan http://www.antivirus.com > ***************** There is also a great free zip and other archived files manager called PowerArchiver. 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