From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V5 #308 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Saturday, November 25 2000 Volume 05 : Number 308 Today's Subjects: ----------------- my intro to the aps [Caleb Munro ] Re: poe/blair witch sellout ["David Furlong" ] Re: Poe, Don't sell out... ["The Masque of the Red Death" ] Re: Poe, Don't sell out... ["monkeygrrl66 _" ] Re: TAPs ["monkeygrrl66 _" ] attn all SOAP's ["monkeygrrl66 _" ] Re: Poe, Don't sell out... ["monkeygrrl66 _" ] Re: Bravo PURPLEMOJO Re: Poe, Don't sell out... ["J.R. Jobe" ] Re: Poe, Don't sell out... [PoeKittie@aol.com] Re: Poe (sell-out) ["Debian Linux" ] Re: Poe (sell-out) [BlinkMeBlind@aol.com] Fwd: Re: attn all SOAP's ["monkeygrrl66 _" ] Re: Poe, Don't sell out [LlamaLady2@aol.com] audio tech help? ["The Masque of the Red Death" ] Re: TAPs [Nora Lynne ] denial? [raymond lew ] who owns what [raymond lew ] Poe - "Live" magazine, Sept. 1996 images [Ricky ] Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #307 [UnionCityGarbage@aol.com] Re: Poe, Don't sell out... [KoriG@aol.com] Re: TAPs [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Poe (sell-out) [KoriG@aol.com] Re: denial? [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: TAPs [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: denial? [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Poe, Don't sell out... [JSens70632@aol.com] Re: Poe sell-out etc. ["Debian Linux" ] Re: Fwd: Re: attn all SOAP's ["J.R. Jobe" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:43:53 -0800 (PST) From: Caleb Munro Subject: my intro to the aps who are you:: my name is caleb munro, im a georgetown student in dc who right now really doesnt want to be at georgetown, but thats another issue. i grew up in denver co for most of my life, but am glad to leave that city behind and hopefully will move on to nyc or london sometime soon. where are you from:: i just i answered that sorta. theres always more to add about these things, but then again brevity is sacred how old are you:: im 19, almost to 20 amazingly enough. i just remember thinking, god i cant wait to say 'im twentysomething' and its right around the corner. crap, here i thought id savor my youth. first heard of poe:: my beloved sister. couldnt be more thankful. she bought hello and between her driving me around and listening to it in the house i borrowed it but after having it for about a year she made me buy my own. shes really selfish like that. ;-) i can honestly say the more i learn about poe the more amazed i am. she is one among few id actually go far out of my way to meet. other musicians:: well, i might get some slack here but its everyone so lets be honest. BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE, people try to listen to esthero. she is so unknown and so amazing, i really think this bunch would love her. okay back to the question. the others i would love to meet are alanis morissette and duncan sheik, the two together with poe represent my three favorites. i also really like dido, just got her cd, the cranberries started out amazing and went down hill slowly. so that leaves them at okay now but i wish theyd return to the roots, it was so pure without the record companies (as everyone these days). garbage, collective soul, dishwalla, massive attack, portishead, creedence, three dog night, natalie merchant, tori amos, and on and on and on. other:: just the quote below. dont be a hypocrite. they suck. and think about it more than that, because many people are and dont realize it. life is a complex thing. take a breather from what you refer to as 'life' and really REALLY think about it. then your life might begin. but only if youre lucky ;-) haha happy thanksgiving everyone, bye bye caleb ===== "What I have to do is to see, at any rate, that I do not lend myself to the wrong which I condemn." - Henry David Thoreau Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:46:24 From: "David Furlong" Subject: Re: poe/blair witch sellout I don't know if anyone's has thought of this or written about it but a lot of the time when a song gets used in a movie (or commercial or television show) it's not really the artist's descision. The record company has the most say (and generally makes the most money). Only artists who own the entire rights to their works can make the descision on their own. David E. Furlong "Once, when I was a kid, I ate this frog I found in the river . . . and that's pretty much it." - really happened. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:04:04 From: "The Masque of the Red Death" Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... actually i think the song belongs to atlantic. so if atlantic wanted it on blair witch, it wouldn't matter what poe said. the fact that she liked the movie and got money for it is a bonus... btw, yes ray, i learned something from mcilvery _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:52:33 EST From: JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com Subject: Haunted Poster Hi, I don't remember who was looking for posters, or I would have sent this to them.. but I found this on EBAY. Web address and description follows. ~jez http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=504652665 SPECIAL 5 DAY AUCTION-LOW LOW RESERVE- U.S. PROMO POSTER-INCLUDES FULL COLOUR IMAGE -GREAT PROMO ITEM FOR CD-HARD TO FIND-$4 ADDED TO EACH ORDER FOR S/H-$1 MIN INCREMENTS-PA RES ADD 6% SALES TAX- ALL ITEMS ARE NEW/MINTCONDITION--WWW.MCALL.COM/INFOPAGES/TOONES-ALSO PLEASE PHONE 610-821-9030-MC/V/DISCOVER/CHECKS/M.O./U.S. CASH-WE SHIP ANYWHERE-PLEASE EMAIL FOR INTERNATIONAL S/H COSTS- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 04:01:45 EST From: Davey08@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... > if i was offered $X.xx, i > Somehow I doubt she had the idea when she wrote the song, more than likely she was approached, she did have an acquaintance with M. Manson at one time did she not? Dave Dave@poe.org "Dans la maison, l'obscuriti me consommera." < http://www.geocities.com/run_rom_run/houseofleaves.html "Ces mots vous effrayent-ils?" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:30:31 -0800 From: "Jeffery Scott" Subject: re: poe/blair witch sell out......... In this online chat (I don't know...maybe I was the only one that saw this) you can clearly hear..and see, Poe's response to a question about this Blair Witch thing........... http://www.getmusic.com/events/ecoustics/poe/index_post.html All she says is that THEY approached her. THEY thought that it fit the film beautifully. SHE said yes, and that would be great. That was about the extent of it. I heard NO mention of who set it up. There was absolutely no discussion of money. And...In my opinion, she seemed sincerely flattered and honored that they asked. She also seemed rather proud of her decision to go along with it. I saw, at no point, any indication that this was a move from someone who is a "sell out". All of life, I have wanted the opportunity to make a living in, through and from, my artwork. It is EVERY artist's dream to be able to do what they love, and be able to find some assemblance of security that can finance their lives. I am fortunate to be one of those people. As matter of fact, it has even exceeded my expectation. I do well. And I am damn proud of that fact as I have worked VERY hard to help make it so. As I am creating one of my paintings, or sculptures, they require every ounce of artistic and creative bit of integrity that I can muster. Creating is my church.......It is my life. I am now doing what I was borne to do...AND I am making a substantial living doing it. Once I have done all that I feel that I can do to a piece...........it becomes a property. A commodity. To be sold. To be marketed. So that I can CONTINUE to make a living......at WHAT I LOVE. If this makes me, and others like me, a sell out.........then so be it. I do NOT consider Poe to be a sell out. I think she is but one of the fortunate few that can make a living from doing what she loves. And what is wrong with that? What is she supposed to do to satisfy people that think that this is a sell out maneuver? Sing in the shower and NEVER l;et anyone else hear it except people that are within earshot? I think not. If that were the case, NONE of us would be lucky enough to revel in the beauty of her art. I would LOVE to meet the person who first constructed and put into society the nothing that a TRUE artist, one that is doing it because they NEED to, is supposed to be some shriveling, obscure, STARVING unknown. What a ridiculous notion. That myth is SO antiquated, it's pathetic. I can only imagine that it was said by one that had absolutely no hope of ever being able to support themselves by means of their art. I have no tolerance for such notions. I think that great art should be out there. It should, and MUST be seen by the masses. It should be shared. And those that are willing to pay for it.......should continue doing so. And if they find enough value in it to spend a substantial amount to the artist..........even better still. Isn't real art worth it? Don't you want "real art" to be seen by all that can see it and hope that they appreciate it? At any rate...........If there is any question........please see that interview for yourselves. Hopefully, you will see what I saw. Jeffery Scott (Numatrix) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:48:22 -0800 (PST) From: Thaddeus Stebens Subject: [none] i agree with the whole idea that the music industry is a business. if Poe makes money by putting a song(in this case a pre-written song) on a soundtrack, then so be it. i will the first chance that i get. this is coming from a musicians standpoint. the term sellout is reserved for those out there who change how and or what they say just for the money. now if you change it cuzz you want to and you're experimenting then you're being a creative musician. she didn't even change the song for the soundtrack and wanted it there cuzz she wanted to be associated with the artistic ending of the movie(which by the way was 100 times better than the first movie). that's not "selling out". anyway, with all these talks about regeonal this and that, i was wondering if there are any colorado psycho's out there. i'm sure there are and would like to si hi and let's get our act together. till next we meet, "i do not sniff the coke i only smoke" thaddeus Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:11:47 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl66 _" Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... k - i'm afraid this thread might just get ugly...the only reason i ever said i like to keep little known artists to myself, is because of the simple fact that they only do headlining concerts in very small venues. and such concerts are the only ones i'll go to because i can see - cut and dry. stadium concerts almost seem like a waste of money to me - if i wanted to hear the artist and not see them, i'll just listen to their cd. i don't really think anyone ever meant poe was a sell out (i didn't mean this anyway). but yes, you are right jessica, if that is the definition of a sell out, any musician who gets a label deal has therefore soldo out. k - let's move on to some happier topic - strippers? no wait, that's already been done...uhh, warm fuzzy puppies? i don't think anyone will be offended by rover, no? monkeygrrl66 >From: JSens70632@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:02:38 EST > > >how can you say poe may be a sell out. i think that is pretty selfish to >want >to keep poe all to yourself. shes not just yours and who cares if shes >making >all kinds of money for the blair witch thing. she is just trying to reach a >bigger audience and who can blame her. people make it seem so bad for an >artist to want to sell records. if that is the case i guess all musicians >sell out from the very beggining.... > jessica _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:24:28 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl66 _" Subject: Re: TAPs k SOAP's - here's another suggestion for regional song - junkie - whaddya say? monkeygrrl66 >From: Therancidjunkie@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: TAPs >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:43:56 EST > > >I could be a TAP or a SOAP or a SWAP or a DAP (dallas ap). I feel so >qualified!!! By the way, about the SOAP stats....I personally think Junkie >could be a very fitting song, but maybe that's just my friends and me. >Anyways, I've lived in tx 16 years now (yeah my whole life) and I don't >really like it, and I think that the only two neighbors worth having are >New >Mexico and on occasion (mardi gras) louisiana. So, either TAPs or SOAPs is >acceptable to me! At any rate, we should all hang out sometime. > -gabrielle > >Here's a dumb aggie joke: > >Aggie graduation. This one kid who didn't do so well in school (surprise) >goes up to get his diploma and the dean says, "Okay, I know you didn't make >good grades but here's one last chance. Spell "cat" and you can graduate. >"Okay," says the aggie kid, "C-A-T." All the aggies in the audience yell at >once, "Aw, come on, give him another chance!" > >I think I win the prize for the dumbest yet! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:53:25 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl66 _" Subject: attn all SOAP's >capital: dallas - only cuz i know where it is. >motto: well behaved people rarely make history. >song: trigger happy jack or wild >nickname: angry johnny's harem >colors: black >bird: the finger >flower: red, long stem roses, WITH the thorns - i have a thing for this >such flower... >drink: uh, liquid substances? ray was kind enough to send this our way. i have filled out what i think should go in the blanks, but please feel free to send your own suggestions in. i will probably shoot them down ,but you can send them in anyway - hahahahha - just joshin' wit cha'll... monkeygrrl66 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:10:45 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl66 _" Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... i'm sure you're right that she didn't sit down at her desk after receiving a phone call saying, 'ms. poe, please write us a song for a movie and we will give you lots of money.' thus, the birth of haunted! i think whoever said the atlantic owns the rights to her songs and they choose what gets distrubuted to what genres, was correct in their statement. very, very few artists own their work - prince, ani,... dunno about poe and marilyn manson. could be i guess? monkeygrrl66 >From: Davey08@aol.com >To: jandymo@hotmail.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 04:01:45 EST > > > > > if i was offered $X.xx, i > > > > >Somehow I doubt she had the idea when she wrote the song, more than likely >she was approached, she did have an acquaintance with M. Manson at one time >did she not? > >Dave >Dave@poe.org > >"Dans la maison, l'obscuriti me consommera." ><of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski >http://www.geocities.com/run_rom_run/houseofleaves.html > >"Ces mots vous effrayent-ils?" > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 04:25:46 -0800 (PST) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: Re: Bravo PURPLEMOJO Re: Poe, Don't sell out... - ---Your right, Haunted wasn't on the soundtrack. And besides, it's not like BW2 broke all kinds of Box Office records! It was never #1 any weekend. I'm beginning to think that only the AP's went and seen it. - ---Jobe > Bravo to you!!! I was going to write a response to > that email calling Poe a > sell-out... but thanks to you I didn't have to do > anything. You said exactly > what was on my mind. Poe isn't a sell-out because > she has a song in a > movie... songs go in movies, someone has to sing > them, why not Poe? Just > because an artist has a song in a movie that doesn't > make them a sell-out. > My only really comment is this- I don't think > "Haunted" is even on the BW2 > soundtrack... so how can you sell out when your song > isn't even on the > soundtrack? I personally thought it was awesome > that I heard a Poe song with > all of my friends and the loads of others in the > theatre, I think it's a good > way for Poe to reach a diverse listening audience, > not a way to sell out. > > Tessa > > PS- to the person who originally wrote the "Poe, > Don't sell out..." email, > I'm not yelling or upset with you, I just like > speaking my opinion (I hate it > when people are mad at me for disagreeing). Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 04:57:34 -0800 (PST) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: ---Sell out talk... - ---Hello AP's, - ---It seems like there is alot of talk about whether or not(mostly not) Poe 'sold out' by doing the BW2 thing. (I have to say that BW2 didn't to too well in the theaters mind you.) Well I decided to throw in my two cents. - ---I don't think she 'sold out' at all unless, like other people have mentioned, you count the time she first signed her record contract. Just think, if she would have never signed that contract, MOST of us would have never heard of her, that would suck!!! - ---Also you have to take into consideration that she in no way acts like an artist that has 'sold out.' I mean what about that whole Border's tour? If they had charged money to watch the show, how many of you WOULDN'T have gone anyway? I know that I still would have gone. What artist that has 'sold out' cares about and spends time with every single fan of theirs like Poe does? - ---Anyway all of this talk of Poe 'selling out' is silly. When she stops producing her own records and gets some 'pop' producer to do it, then there might be a case for her 'selling out.' - ---Sorry, that was more like five cents. - ---Jobe Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:16:28 EST From: PoeKittie@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... << It amazes me how cliched the term sell out has become and annoys me that those that jump on the i'm not part of the trendy sell out mainstream bands can be so ignorant and simply put prejudice.. It's just as trendy to only like unpopular bands as well.. Like it or not everyone can be placed into a trend.. >> << Thank GOD I'm not the only person who sees this point. People can't be satisfied. If no one likes their favorite bands, then the rest of the world just has shitty taste and needs a clue. If they do get hip to these acts, they are wannabes trying to jump on an untra-cool bandwagon that the artist's previous fans do not wish to share. Damned if do, damned if don't. Screw it all. I've just decided to try to make myself enjoy just about EVERYTHING for some reason or another, even if it to watch a damn Backstreet Boys video just to laugh at the wardrobe, or comment on how the little girls honestly do remind me of myself at that age. Talent is not to be bogarted, owned solely by one group or another, or bickered over like a child's toy. It's out there for all of us to either accept and value or simply pass by, and it's a shame not everyone can see this.>> I couldnt have put it better myself. Just because a band or singer has a song on a movie doesnt mean their sell-outs. Bands/singers put music on soundtracks all the time,its show biz. even if they did a song just for the money you would too if someone handed you a bitch load of money. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:23:50 From: "Debian Linux" Subject: Re: Poe (sell-out) after sorting through the deluge of flames I must reiterate a few key points I made earlier. At NO point did I say Poe had sold out. She hasn't. The point I was making is that she denies to herself and to her fans that money is a factor. Of course it is so admit it. And Sell-out is not a term i use loosely. And to ther person who twisted my words into saying that Poe is a liar, I did NOT say that. I stated that she is in DENIAL. big difference. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:27:04 EST From: BlinkMeBlind@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe (sell-out) In a message dated 11/24/00 9:47:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, debianlinux@hotmail.com writes: << after sorting through the deluge of flames I must reiterate a few key points I made earlier. At NO point did I say Poe had sold out. She hasn't. The point I was making is that she denies to herself and to her fans that money is a factor. Of course it is so admit it. And Sell-out is not a term i use loosely. And to ther person who twisted my words into saying that Poe is a liar, I did NOT say that. I stated that she is in DENIAL. big difference. >> well of course she wants money to be a "factor" i mean, I wouldn't want to do it for free, unless being a musician is not her only source of income, which im "guessing" it is. Who wouldn't want to make money, you need it to live! But who ever said she denied it, where did this come from, I mean it's not like she said herself "I am NOT doing it for the money", that is unless I'm wrong and she did say that... Danielle Make Serious Mola xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ;/ you're in my life,' you're in my dreams you're all that I think of, that's how it seems you're my heart, you're ' my soul 'cause baby my luv for you 'is outta control xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xx xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ;/ i FREE STUFF SUBSCRIBE TO NSYNCOLOGY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:27:20 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl66 _" Subject: Fwd: Re: attn all SOAP's here's a few changes - what do y'all (sorry for that bit a hick-speak)think? and to my alabama ap's - where do you wanna be? SOAP's or SEAP's? totally up to you, i guess. i didn't really know what sorta drink everyone digs. or should it simply be 'anything that produces a buzz of any sort?!' i don't drink alcohol (can you imagine what inane posts i'd write if i did??), so throw some ideas at me... monkeygrrl66 >From: "Brad Rosenthal" >To: "monkeygrrl66 _" >Subject: Re: attn all SOAP's >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:42:48 -0500 > >Heyas, > >This looks good to me, although perhaps we should specify the drink as one >containing alcohol ;) > >One other thing in regards to the region we cover. Originally it was this: >texas, oklahoma, kansas, alabama, new mexico, mexico. > >I was thinking perhaps we should change it to: >texas, oklahoma, kansas, new mexico, arkansas, lousiana, and mexico > >Alabama is a better fit for the SEAPs I think. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "monkeygrrl66 _" >To: >Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 5:53 AM >Subject: attn all SOAP's > > > > > > >capital: dallas - only cuz i know where it is. > > >motto: well behaved people rarely make history. > > >song: trigger happy jack or wild > > >nickname: angry johnny's harem > > >colors: black > > >bird: the finger > > >flower: red, long stem roses, WITH the thorns - i have a thing for this > > >such flower... > > >drink: uh, liquid substances? > > > > > > ray was kind enough to send this our way. i have filled out what i >think > > should go in the blanks, but please feel free to send your own >suggestions > > in. i will probably shoot them down ,but you can send them in anyway - > > hahahahha - just joshin' wit cha'll... > > > > monkeygrrl66 > > >____________________________________________________________________________ >_________ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:45:45 EST From: LlamaLady2@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out how come if an artist gets money they are automatically a sell out? maybe she did like the ending and wanted her song in there. of course she's going to get paid for it. that's obvious. it seems kind of funny that people are always trying to find some reason for an artist selling out. i dunno, just my meager opinion. kendra "Life's too short to listen to sh#@ty music." -our beloved Poe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 22:12:11 From: "The Masque of the Red Death" Subject: audio tech help? hey does anyone know how to transfer a tape into a computer .wav? or mp3, whatever. i got a cable that connects a portable audio system (ie, my walkman) to a line in (ie my computer) the audio goes through on the speakers when i play the walkman, but i don't know how to record. the sound recorder that came with my computer doesn't work, is it just that i need to get something else to record it, or is there something more? and if its just that i need to get something else, can someone point me in the right direction? thanks _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:14:40 -0500 (EST) From: Nora Lynne Subject: Re: TAPs That's just wrong! :) The Aggies lost their Skydiving club last year... the whole thing.... they were all going on a dive and the plane crashed... this was right before the bonfire thing... it's not safe being an aggie... anyone got any suggestions as to where I should transfer to... ? :) Turtle (The one Aggie AP) > Trying to get home in time for the holidays after a late test before the > break, a group of Texas A&M students were flying from College Station to > Houston in a single-engine plane being flown by a senior flight student. > It > seems the plane crashed when one of then got cold and decided to turn the > fan > off. > > Please, I pray no one writes asking me to explain this. : ) > KORi > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahaha...well, I think there is at least one Aggie AP. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:59:57 -0800 (PST) From: raymond lew Subject: denial? i'm still not sure how poe's answer constitutes denial. you asked why she did bwp2, and she told you. just b/c she didn't say what you *wanted* her to say doesn't mean she's denying anything...what's wrong with liking the ending of the movie? (i haven't actually seen the movie so i dunno). let's say that you ask poe the following: QUESTION: "poe, why did you write haunted?" POE: "i wanted to make an album dedicated to my father." well, she's also getting royalties from the album. does that mean that she's in denial about her record too? ...ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:08:31 -0800 (PST) From: raymond lew Subject: who owns what yep, record company owns all the master recordings of their artists. if the artist owned them, then the record company wouldn't make any money--the artist could sell the album to anyone and keep all the proceeds. but since the record label owns the masters, they have the exclusive right to sell albums and divide the profits as they see fit. more than 2/3 of most record companies revenues come from catalog sales. if the record company has no master recordings, they have no catalog. ani, for example, doesn't financially rely on record labels, so everything she makes she owns. last year, aimee mann bought back her recordings from bachelor number 2 so she could sell them by her own means. i don't know where i'm going with this. i'm kinda meandering. i'll stop here. ...ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:58:18 -0800 (PST) From: Ricky Subject: Poe - "Live" magazine, Sept. 1996 images Okay, I was supposed to put these up a long time ago. http://www.terrificlemon.com/poe/ - -Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:02:09 EST From: UnionCityGarbage@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #307 poe pix- <http://rollingstone.com/sections/artists/text/artistgen.asp?afl=& *s o n i c l i f e s o n i c d e a t h s o n i c t r u t h s o n i c y o u t h* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:22:39 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... A little hint for those not in the know -- the only artists who can act without any regards whatsoever to the money involved in the issue are those who already have so stinking much of it that it is virtually reduced to an act of occupying free time for themselves and all involved ... and even then it is usually still a massive issue for some reason or another. (Cases in point, Metallica and their Napster fueding, or the music career endevors of pro atheletes.) If it gets burned onto a CD, it has entered the realm of the MUSIC INDUSTRY, like it or not, by desire or not. Because the music industry is just that, an INDUSTRY, a business. Money is ALWAYS a factor, even when "Money is not an issue." (That just means whomever holds the pursestrings has the excess funds to put the worries of the accounting and management into the hands of employees paid for by, well, themselves.) I have ZILCH interest in seeing BWP2, and shock of shockers, Poe was not broken up when I told her this. But then, I'm also the same girl who proclaims "both "American Beauty" and "10 Things I Hate About You" as her two favorite movies of 1999, so I'm hardly more-"art over commercial value" than she. To each their own. It's Poe's song, and she may do with it what she wishes, whatever her reasons may be. And some fo you seem to be really unclear about BWP2. The movie is hardly a blockbuster. I think last time I glanced at the whole matter, all involved parties weren't in hopes of breaking even with the project. People are acting like this project is bankrolling Poe's purchase of a home from Madonna and three world tours. Though I wish such financial security and comfort on gurlfriend, it ain't the case. Get things into perspective here, people. I gotta go get ready for a Vallejo concert. Happy Post-Turkey Day folks! KORi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:26:51 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: TAPs In a message dated 11/24/00 5:19:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, hotbutteredpagan@cutey.com writes: > it's not safe being an aggie... > anyone got any suggestions as to where I should transfer to... ? :) > Turtle (The one Aggie AP) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Well, you could try University of California at Davis...no, wait...they are ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:31:26 EST From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe (sell-out) In a message dated 11/24/00 10:47:13 AM, debianlinux@hotmail.com writes: << after sorting through the deluge of flames I must reiterate a few key points I made earlier. At NO point did I say Poe had sold out. She hasn't. The point I was making is that she denies to herself and to her fans that money is a factor. Of course it is so admit it. >> Making an issue of money being a factor involved in each decision one makes in their career is like pointing out that the favorite hobby of every human being is BREATHING. It's one of the collosal DUHs of the world. Why in the hell do you even feel the need to push the issue?!? Have you nothing better to do?? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:30:55 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: denial? In a message dated 11/24/00 7:10:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, rlew@usc.edu writes: > i'm still not sure how poe's answer constitutes denial. you asked why she > did bwp2, and she told you. just b/c she didn't say what you *wanted* her > to say doesn't mean she's denying anything...what's wrong with liking the > ending of the movie? (i haven't actually seen the movie so i dunno). > > let's say that you ask poe the following: > > QUESTION: "poe, why did you write haunted?" > POE: "i wanted to make an album dedicated to my father." > > well, she's also getting royalties from the album. does that mean that > she's in denial about her record too? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hey, Poe's daddy was a film director! It isn't surprising to me that she ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:45:00 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: TAPs In a message dated 11/24/00 8:40:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: > > it's not safe being an aggie... > > anyone got any suggestions as to where I should transfer to... ? :) > > Turtle (The one Aggie AP) > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Well, you could try University of California at Davis...no, wait...they > are > > Well, AO heLl clipped the last part of that message...it should have said "They are Aggies too." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:47:49 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: denial? In a message dated 11/24/00 8:46:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: > > i'm still not sure how poe's answer constitutes denial. you asked why she > > did bwp2, and she told you. just b/c she didn't say what you *wanted* her > > to say doesn't mean she's denying anything...what's wrong with liking the > > ending of the movie? (i haven't actually seen the movie so i dunno). > > > > let's say that you ask poe the following: > > > > QUESTION: "poe, why did you write haunted?" > > POE: "i wanted to make an album dedicated to my father." > > > > well, she's also getting royalties from the album. does that mean that > > she's in denial about her record too? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hey, Poe's daddy was a film director! It isn't surprising to me that she > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damn! They did it again...should have read..."It isn't surprising to me that she isn't ahamed to have her songs in movies." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:52:27 EST From: JSens70632@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe, Don't sell out... ok dont get me wrong, i like small venues also and most of the concerts i go to are at small venues because it is a more intimate setting and u really get to see the artist. but i wouldnt let that stop me from sharing how great most of these bands are with other people. i personally would like to see the bands i like, such as poe, to be successful and touching many people. i wasnt being mean with my comment, just simply throwing in my opinion, if u did take offense to it im sorry. jessica ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:05:08 From: "Debian Linux" Subject: Re: Poe sell-out etc. wow, an intelligent response! I'm glad to see someone can express a counter viewpoint without getting defensive, calling me wrong for my point of view, or simply insulting me. Though I must admit that while I do express the viewpoint whole-heartedly, I did throw that out there just to get response, be it intelligent or not. I can see the possibility that Poe went into the project with nothing but the most artistic of intentions, but the fact remains that royalties had to have been collected. In as such, I would have been happy to hear Poe finish her quote about the film's ending beauty with "... and the money was nice, too". Maybe I'm overzealous or paranoid but at least it is good that her fans would keep her in check. I do know that Poe welcomes and utilizes her fan's feedback very much. From: Edie Sedgewick To: debianlinux@hotmail.com Subject: Poe sell-out etc. Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:47:00 -0800 (PST) Hey dood... I guess you knew what you were getting into but it's still too bad that most people didn't read what you actually wrote. Them's the APs for you tho. In any case if I can claim to have some knowledge of the inner workings of Poe I will say that I find her to be over-enthusiastic about almost everything, so I am not surprised, nor do I doubt, that she found Blair Witch II to be beautiful and wonderful and amazing etc. So I dunno, I am inclined to believe she's sincere, and not in denial, although loving the movie may not have been the ultimate reason for putting her song on the soundtrack, it was probably a factor. But yr point is well-taken Twalen Fleety MonkeyMan Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 22:12:58 -0800 (PST) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: attn all SOAP's - ---I don't know about anybody else, but before we go to a club me and my cousin will each drink about 64oz of suicide, if you don't know what a suicide is it's a megamix of any and all caffenated drinks. That keeps us bouncing off the walls until dawn. In fact, thats what got me all the way home after the Border's show. It does tend to give me something like a hangover though, or at least what I could imagine a hangover is like. Hmm, maybe I just drink it too fast. I wonder why it's called a suicide? Sorry, I'm drifting. - ---I don't drink alcohol either, so I don't know what everybody else likes to drink. - ---What was my point again? - ---Jobe - --- monkeygrrl66 _ wrote: > i didn't really know what sorta drink everyone digs. > or should it simply be > 'anything that produces a buzz of any sort?!' i > don't drink alcohol (can > you imagine what inane posts i'd write if i did??), > so throw some ideas at > me... > > monkeygrrl66 Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V5 #308 ***********************************