From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V5 #301 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, November 20 2000 Volume 05 : Number 301 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Part I : piSSin oFF p0e / eYe am sew soRRy ["sp00k@poe.org" ] score update [Iamtheher4u@aol.com] Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares [LivTheMdns@aol.com] Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares [Allan Grimm ] Re: lists.... ["jandy _" ] Testing,is this going to the list??? [Svbubbles@aol.com] Re: Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares [Brian Kallenbach ] Re: lists.... [TrigHapJac@aol.com] Introducing myself [Svbubbles@aol.com] Re: Testing,is this going to the list??? [Svbubbles@aol.com] NPR: Now its our turn Oklahoma... ["J.R. Jobe" ] RE: Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares ["Stephen van Vuuren" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 06:58:11 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Part I : piSSin oFF p0e / eYe am sew soRRy That's right U PsYcHoS, Poe is piSSed @ me cuz eYe called the "Online Street Team" "Fuckers" I'm sorry, I forgot to add INCORPORATED http://www.electricartists.com/streetteams/index.html It GALLS me that I must read: "Haunted Newsflash Hey Everyone~ I just want to let you know that you've all been doing a great job supporting Poe's new album. This week Poe sold 13,000 and charted at #110! This is really great cause there is no single and no video, it's all online word of mouth and in-stores performances! You've all pulled together and made a difference. Just wanted to say thank you! I could it with gourmet taste, Jason Haunted OST Haunted@electricartists.com " If I wasn't sitting here as an AP, I would be lead to believe that none of this would be possible without "Poe Online Street Team" However, there IS a single, it is called "Walk The Walk" it is played often on the VASTLY ignored http://wber.monroe.edu and it may also be heard via the "Time Warner Alternative Music Channel" for openers. Yes there has been plenty of "Online word of mouth" and for almost 5 years, the source of THAT sound has been from http://poe.org http://angry-psychos.com and the Angry-Psychos e-mail list. For those of you who do not know, http://poe.org and http://angry-psychos.com are owned by Jarrod at http://cyberfan.com the "Angry Psychos" e-mail list is owned by "Amato" address withheld by me on purpose, until the day that http://poe.org went white, I had no idea that such drastic changes were in store. Over the last three years I had petitioned Jarrod on an almost quarterly basis to re-open the http://poe.org chat room. For those of you who missed it, at its finest, it could be as cozy as a nite club, with a stage where mind games were vividly played out. Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, myself and a few other AP's like Anf, Mother, Aaron, Ed, Dube, and perhaps a dozen others were holding down the fort on #poe, irc.us.dal.net http://www.dal.net/index.php3 sometime in spring of 2,000, Jarrod rewarded my patience, by inviting me to have #poe incorporated into http://poe.org because IRC offers universal connectivity over a magnitude of operating systems, and robust security. I honestly did not know the emptiness http://poe.org would become, until I went and saw with my own eyes. When you read about how Jarrod was planning on closing down http://poe.org I am here to tell you that besides the chat, Jarrod entrusted me with the task of creating a multiple subject message forum at http://poe.org , in what I took as an encouraging sign, Jarrod completed that task himself, I know this because while I worked on incorporating #poe into http://poe.org I wandered about the http://poe.org server looking for other clues that might show what the future at http://poe.org might look like, and there certainly was a NEW http://poe.org lurking in those paths... ultimately the reason http://poe.org has gone white according to Jarrod is: "There is no support from above" nnnn ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 07:05:34 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Part II : piSSin oFF p0e / eYe am sew soRRy Seldom do I offer my loyalty, I feel it enhances the value, I have often marveled at the mileage that Poe gets out of http://poe.org http://angry-psychos.com and the AP mailing list, for free, the owners primarily lurking in the background. I admire the beauty of this arrangement where no one person controls the entity , it is the sum of it's parts, freely given that make uP the AP community. Certainly #poe on irc.dal.net was created in this spirit, it is almost self perpetuating, requiring only that at least one registered channel operator out of over 50 show up at least once a month, nothing belongs to anybody, it only "IS" because those who ARE the input make "IT" so, such are the building blocks of the "AP Community" When the home team leaves town for that shiny new stadium in another time zone, loyalty becomes a hard lesson. For those who have spent the last few years rooting for a "Team Poe" that many had declared dead in the water, it comes as a surprise to find that she has switched stadiums. Suddenly EA is the self proclaimed "Online Street Team" and they have the honor and privilege of hosting chats with Poe, they proclaim that THEY hold responsibility for Poe's success, http://poe.org and the AP's are relegated to UNMENTIONED status. To those who claimed that Poe's teaming with EA would not effect the AP's you were wrong. As I told Robby Black, I am not here to argue with the star of the show, however that does not mean I have to LIKE the transition that has taken place, if she wants to be piSSed because I call the "Online Street Team" "Fuckers" I offer no apologies, As far as what went down on #poe, after just about 4 years of waiting, Poe showed up for 6 minutes, to defend electric artists, point up my lack of understanding of logistics, bemoan the logistics of making it to a chat, even tho it has been pointed out that chat is open 24/7, and yes, implying that I was some how less of a fan because I did not make it to Ohio. I suspect that this is in retaliation for my posting that perhaps Poe marches to the beat of somebody else's drum, but as I said, after almost four years of waiting, this is heady stuff. I offered her an apology if my anger seems directed at her, as it is not. I offered her a "Welcome Home" via an ASCII art display, I informed her that the names "Poe" and "MZD" remain registered with Robby Black holding the passwords, I agreed with her that yes the AP's are a "family" and then I said to her that I felt it was strange that we had to go visit a stranger if we wanted to visit with our "family" Now if someone wants to label those very LONG six minutes a joke, it is the first that I have been informed about it. Again, I am sorry if Poe feels my dislike for the "Online Street Team" should be a cause for her anger, or as it was suggested her disappointment, I take comfort in the knowledge that the VAST majority of what I am reading from those who have been around here longer than me, don't much care for the online street team either. So there ya have it, I still don't like the "Online Street Team" , it is a divisive element almost as if by design, Poe is piSSed, and POVIE can go wallow in shit cuz it d0nt change how "beTTer than MAO" feels. Obviously there will be no end to the streams of people who find their way to Poe online just as they always have, via http://poe.org I'm sure Electric Artists will congratulate all of their people for this. Luv sp00k etc ... P.S. can you believe that continued fouled signature line? Someone should be kind and point him to a lyrics page. What should one expect from the team that brings the author of the "Internet Anthem" to chat via a cell phone and a typing interpreter, transmitted to a screen covered on four edges by more SPAM than would be found at a surplus food give away...I hope her friends from #2600 didn't see.... sp00k etc ... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shes BaaaaaCK???? http://Poe.Org Visit My "POE" Place http://www.sp00k.com See What I See ? http://Go.To/Fairport Hear What I Hear ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live.ram 80K Feed ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live2.ram ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:33:32 -0500 From: "amato" Subject: ADMIN: Update HTML Mail & AOL 6.0 Hey everyone, A new filter has been installed on out mailing list, which strips out binary attachments and non-text/plain sections out of list mail. What does this mean. The main benefit is making AOL 6.0 users happy again. A major problem was that the latest version of AOL (6.0) didn't have a setting to allow their users to send plan-text. As a result, messages sent from AOL 6.0 will probably bounce. Anyway, hope this solves the problem. Let me know if you still see any problems. amato ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:38:59 EST From: Iamtheher4u@aol.com Subject: score update 8:o I keep thinking how cool it would be if this actually gets made... =o} Tessa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:43:32 EST From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares Just wondering how many AP's we happen to have in the general area of DC, maryland and virginia. Maybe we should organize our own regional group. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:50:51 -0500 From: Allan Grimm Subject: Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares Baltimore AP here! I think we should definitely get some kind of a regional thing going. I would be willing to help organize. I don't think I'd have enough time to do it myself. Allan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:55:58 EST From: EXej@aol.com Subject: Moving To anyone that's written to me since November 1... I am currently unavailable via internet, mail or telephone. My cable modem installation has not taken place yet, but when it does, people can ask me for such things as Westlake videos, HOL info and what is going on with houseofleaves.4t.com. Many many many thanks to Michele for holding down the fort over there while I am gone. I have around 1000 emails to go through whenever my connection is back up and I hope to respond to all of the private mails. Thank you, Erik (mail to exej@juno.com will be read someday too... I promise...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:47:57 EST From: "not an angel" Subject: Re: Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares *raises her hand* I'm from MD :) A li'l group of our own might be cool. Let me know if you want help with it or anything. Tracey >From: LivTheMdns@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:43:32 EST > > >Just wondering how many AP's we happen to have in the general area of DC, >maryland and virginia. Maybe we should organize our own regional group. > >Mike _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:51:50 EST From: Iamtheher4u@aol.com Subject: addition to Spanish Doll video I've got an addition to my video idea... after the part that goes "I think I used to belong here, but the only way I can tell, is that I miss you still and I can not find you here, you left me tattered and torn, just like that sweet Spanish doll." ok Poe would be running through the city streets and she would run past the camera at one point and the camera would zoom in on a store behind her that has dolls in it, it would zoom all the way up to one doll right to its eye (some dark color, brown or black) and then the scene would change to Poe running again... did that make sense? if it didn't I'll try again later =o}. Tessa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:58:50 EST From: Lita151@aol.com Subject: lists.... ::sniff sniff:: i feel so alone up here in the lonely cold new hampshire... anyone else from new england .... ~Gimppy ps... i would strip to finger tips..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:09:39 GMT From: "The Masque of the Red Death" Subject: Re: Poe and strippers >What stripper would have enough taste to like Garbage, >let alone pOe? uhm... ill bet thumper loves poe hehe _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:17:00 GMT From: "jandy _" Subject: Re: lists.... don't feel too lonely - there only seems to be a few of us down here in texas. >ps... i would strip to finger tips..... ditto... ;) monkeygrrl66 >From: Lita151@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: lists.... >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:58:50 EST > > >::sniff sniff:: i feel so alone up here in the lonely cold new hampshire... >anyone else from new england .... > >~Gimppy > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:41:40 EST From: Svbubbles@aol.com Subject: Testing,is this going to the list??? Seeing if you guys can see my post,if you can please someone tell me.Thanks *Shannon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:02:26 -0500 From: Brian Kallenbach Subject: Re: Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares > Just wondering how many AP's we happen to have in the general area of DC, > maryland and virginia. Maybe we should organize our own regional group. I'm from Virginia, but have very little mobility. - -- Brian Kallenbach E-mail: sasori@home.com [O] darkarchon@azraelproductions.com Undernet: Sasori [O] Chatnet: Angelfire AIM: Kindralas [O] ICQ: 21103806 http://members.home.net/sasori/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:58:08 -0800 From: "the lemon queen" Subject: seattle kiddo hi. i'm new. did anyone else see poe @ the seattle borders show? she was amazing. :>) how many seattle/washingtonian peeps out are out there anyways? okaydonkey, everyone have a lurvely day. this mailing list is wicked by the way! *rebekah* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:22:42 EST From: TrigHapJac@aol.com Subject: Re: lists.... In a message dated 11/19/00 9:14:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, Lita151@aol.com writes: << ::sniff sniff:: i feel so alone up here in the lonely cold new hampshire... anyone else from new england .... >> i'm up here in boston (for school) and CT when i'm home....so i'm in new england :) dont feel so lonely! *kristen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:55:01 EST From: Svbubbles@aol.com Subject: Introducing myself Hi, I introduced myself a little while ago but it wasnt going threw, so I'll do it again.My name is Shannon I live in NJ,I have been a fan of Poes since the song"Angry Johnny",her new album is mind blowing,its amazing.Other artists I like, Tori Amos my favorite,Hole,Lauryn Hill,Moby,Dido,Sarah McLachlan ect.Um I guess thats it.. Peace *Shannon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:12:16 EST From: Svbubbles@aol.com Subject: Re: Testing,is this going to the list??? Thanks guys I can see the post. *Shannon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:13:16 -0800 (PST) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: NPR: Now its our turn Oklahoma... - ---Hello my fellow strippers-umm, I mean Psychos, - ---Alright, if there are any AP's in Oklahoma that happen to know a stripper, live near a strip club, that know what a strip club is, or are maybe even a stripper themselves I think that it is time we got organized too. - ---Sorry for the sarcasm, - ---Jobe P.S.---And if you don't see the sarcasm, then this message is for you. - ---Give evil nothing to oppose, and it will disappear all by itself. (Twilight of the Dark Master) Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:17:27 EST From: Trueluhv2000@aol.com Subject: Re: Im new cuz ohio rules! :) Carri psychogrl@poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:21:18 EST From: Trueluhv2000@aol.com Subject: Re: west coast angry psychos i feel a bit of a contest!! hey BECKY, what r we up to?? :) carri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:23:38 EST From: RbSayre@aol.com Subject: two things. or three. 1. whoever made the Thumper music to strip to joke- hee hee 2. ok i'm a dunce and a bit delete happy and lost the e-mail about the Bowie album that was recommended & compared to Haunted... :) could someone refresh my memory please & send me the title? thanks! 3. yaay i can post now! peace, rick listening to: guru's jazzmatazz streetsoul < "and i'm haunted by the lives of those who wove the web inside my haunted head" - < ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:31:06 GMT From: "tom tobin" Subject: NYC Video hey..i remember peope posting on the list about the videos from the NYC shows..the boarders and than the housing works..i met you two on the line at the boarders..and i responded..but never heard back..please get in touch with me..thanks - -tom _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:43:58 -0500 From: "Stephen van Vuuren" Subject: RE: Attn: DC, MD, VA, anyone else you cares NC is far away...waiting for Poe to come to this area :) Thanx, Stephen van Vuuren XIVEREN, Inc. Digital Motion Picture Production Greensboro, NC USA www.xiveren.com office (336) 662-9894 fax (508) 300-5644 "The first rule of fight club is -- you do not talk about fight club. The second rule of fight club is -- you do not talk about fight club." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:17:43 -0800 (PST) From: raymond lew Subject: i don't need your civil war my fellow west coast angry psychos: whereas the imperial angry psychos of ohio have committed unprovoked acts of war against the holy members of wcap: therefore be it resolved by that the state of war between wcap and oap which has thus been thrust upon wcap is hereby formally declared. signed, raymond lew p.s. - don't sing it, bring it b*tch! =] **************************************************************************** "what we've got here is a failure to communicate..." --gn'r west coast angry psychos >> www.egroups.com/group/wcap the writings on the wall >> www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V5 #301 ***********************************