From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V5 #226 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, September 7 2000 Volume 05 : Number 226 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NPR Danielewski movies ["Red Halcyon" ] re: how can you say Danielewski movies are not Poe related?:-) [KrodKnid@] RE: angry-psychos-digest V5 #225 ["sp00k@poe.org" ] RE: angry-psychos-digest V5 #225 [Lester McGarvus ] Haunted buyable maybe ["Red Halcyon" ] NPR: "retarded" [leah staub ] Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #225 [TimmysPrplMunky@aol.com] Re: NPR: "retarded" [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] NPR: but a good day indeed. [JeZeBeLs1@aol.com] Re: NPR: but a good day indeed. [TimmysPrplMunky@aol.com] Re: NPR: but a good day indeed. [mark alec ] Re: NPR: but a good day indeed. [KrodKnid@aol.com] Haunted lyrics? ["Red Halcyon" ] Poe Chat ["sp00k@poe.org" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 23:04:56 PDT From: "Red Halcyon" Subject: NPR Danielewski movies I was checking on imdb.com to see what movies Tad Danielewski (Poe's dad) worked on, and I got the following (all of these he directed): "Espaņa puerta abierta" (1972) "Guide" (1965) "No Exit" (1962) "The Big Wave" (1961) Also very interesting are the following two Danielewskis: Mark Z., actor, "Gettysburg" (1993) Sylvia, dialogue coach, "The Big Wave" (1961) _Very_ interesting, especially about MZD, no? Unless, of course, this is already common knowlege. :) Lee "Do your dreams come true?" "I haven't had a nice dream for years." - -Trois Couleurs: Rouge _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:10:52 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: re: how can you say Danielewski movies are not Poe related?:-) In a message dated 9/6/2000 2:10:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, red_halcyon@hotmail.com writes: << I was checking on imdb.com to see what movies Tad Danielewski (Poe's dad) worked on, and I got the following (all of these he directed): "Espaņa puerta abierta" (1972) "Guide" (1965) "No Exit" (1962) "The Big Wave" (1961) Also very interesting are the following two Danielewskis: Mark Z., actor, "Gettysburg" (1993) Sylvia, dialogue coach, "The Big Wave" (1961) _Very_ interesting, especially about MZD, no? Unless, of course, this is already common knowlege. :) >> I found this stuff on Tad...so far. ****************** The Big Wave (1960) 60m. From the Pearl S. Buck novel about two boys who were childhood friends but later clash over love for a girl. Slow. D: Tad Danielewski *********************************************** University of Southern California * Stephen Book * Tad Danielewski * Charles MacCaulley * Jack Rowe * Deborah Ross-Sullivan * Tony Simotes * Michael Keenan I think this is a list of filmakers who were teaching at USC film school. ***************** Here is a link to a very interesting read on "Guide". Nostalgia http://www.expressindia.com/screen/feb20/films3.htm *********************************** From a list of awards students at SOT (School of Theater ... at USC) can win: Award Title: Tad Z. Danielewski Award Purpose: To recognize an exceptional performance by an acting student in any show in a semester. Quantity/Value: $250 cash award each semester is available. Gifts. Eligibility: Open to all Acting students. ************************************** NO EXIT Geschlossene Gesellschaft Argentinien, 1962 Regie: Tad Danielewski mit Viveca Lindfors, Rita Gam, Morgan Sterne, Ben Piazza ************************ In 1965, Dev Anand's 'Guide' based on R K Narayan's novel had a separate English version made jointly with Pearl Buck and director Tad Danielewski. The longer Hindi version with songs was directed by Vijay Anand. It got for Waheeda Rehman a best actress award from Chicago. ************************** Guide (1965) Directed by: Vijay Anand, Tad Danielewski Genre: Drama Casts: Dev Anand Waheeda Rehman Kishor Sahu ....Raju ....Rosie ....Marco Plot Summary: This film is a story about a young charismatic guide who earns his living by guiding art lovers through the ancient relics of Ajanta and Elora-a very ancient cave sculpture site. He falls in love for a very talented but uncared wife of a sculpture researcher. This love is a result of the appreciation and recognition of the potential of the talented wife who has a penchant for dance and music...The saga enfolds and leads to the lady becoming a famous dancer....The husband repents and tries to woo his wife back and dedicates the original manuscript of his work on the cave sculptures to her and the guide...also he sends her the royalty earned from his work...the charmed lover the guide in order that the wife may not return to her husband...endorses the check on her behalf by forging the signature...this lands him in soup and he is arrested on charges of forgery...she refuses to bail him out just because he had acted wrongly...the story takes a philosophical turn and the happy go lucky guide wanders off after the jail sentence..he reaches a desolate village and with his knowledge and wit finds himself as a guide of the ignorant people..they put full faith in him and turn to him in any crisis...but then the village faces a famine and they ask him for rain......that is not in his control but the villagers have faith....they ask him to go on a fast to woo the god...he sets the stage for his death...but he knows he is a farce and does not want to die...then comes the struggle between his conscience and his outer self... Finally there is rain.......but the man dies...the guide guides himself to glory..from powerlessness to strength...from life to death........see it to love it.... Runtime: 183 Language: Hindi Cassette (Pal), Color ***************************************** Apparently Tad Danielewski did some filmwork for Williamsburg Film Company also, but I can't say of what nature. Interesting, since the anomoly that the "house" was constructed upon in House of Leaves first shows up in colonial times in that area...indeed, the "house" is in that area. I wonder if the Danielewski kids spent any time there with Dad while he was on this project. Also interesting that Tad worked with Pearl S. Buck on a couple of his films...my aunt was good friends with her. I wonder what the odds were that I could have met the man...or his kids... given a simple twist of fate somewhere along the line:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:25:51 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: RE: angry-psychos-digest V5 #225 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 22:52:17 GMT From: "The Masque of the Red Death" Subject: Re: POE Questions Wrote: ......and whoever sent in that thing about their brother being retarded, but even he could find it needs to lay off. this is a poe forum, and thats its use. if one has a question about poe, they should be welcome to ask it. Masque, I'm surprised, we normally get along so well. Even in America, many, many people still get offended when you poke fun at persons with disabilities... YES if you have a question about POE this is the place to ask it. I'm certainly not the front for the PC campaign, however, anybody who feels like responding, have a listen to "Rise N Shine" and "Beautiful Girl" then write about why YOU feel it is appropriate to use the term "retarded" in a self deprecating manner, but don't expect that some PEOPLE won't be offended, hopefully MANY will be. and CORRECTLY so IMHO. P.S. I doubt it was the original authors intent to be offensive, that it was just a "slip of the tounge", history has shown that the AP list to be a place of raw sensitivities, it is a VERY, VERY diverse group of people, think before you hit that send button. peace sp00k etc ... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----------------------------------------- Shes BaaaaaCK!! http://Poe.Org Visit My "POE" Place http://www.sp00k.com See What I See ? http://Go.To/Fairport Hear What I Hear ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live.ram 80K Feed ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live2.ram ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 08:20:42 PDT From: "Crissy Fletcher" Subject: PR: Lyrics does anyone have the lyrics for walk the walk? just curious Crissy _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lester McGarvus Subject: RE: angry-psychos-digest V5 #225 I only have one thing to say: "TIMMMMAAAYYYY!" - --- "sp00k@poe.org" wrote: > > > > Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 22:52:17 GMT > From: "The Masque of the Red Death" > > Subject: Re: POE Questions > > Wrote: > > > ......and whoever sent in that thing about their > brother being retarded, but > even > he could find it needs to lay off. this is a poe > forum, and thats its use. > if one has a question about poe, they should be > welcome to ask it. > > > > Masque, I'm surprised, we normally get along so > well. Even in America, > many, many people still get offended when you poke > fun at persons with > disabilities... YES if you have a question about > POE this is the place to > ask it. > > I'm certainly not the front for the PC campaign, > however, anybody who feels > like responding, have a listen to "Rise N Shine" > and "Beautiful Girl" then > write about why YOU feel it is appropriate to use > the term "retarded" in a > self deprecating manner, but don't expect that some > PEOPLE won't be > offended, hopefully MANY will be. > > and CORRECTLY so IMHO. > > P.S. I doubt it was the original authors intent to > be offensive, that it > was just a "slip of the tounge", history has shown > that the AP list to be > a place of raw sensitivities, it is a VERY, VERY > diverse group of people, > think before you hit that send button. > > peace > > sp00k etc ... > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------- > Shes BaaaaaCK!! http://Poe.Org > Visit My "POE" Place http://www.sp00k.com > See What I See ? http://Go.To/Fairport > Hear What I Hear ? > http://wber.monroe.edu/live.ram > 80K Feed ? > http://wber.monroe.edu/live2.ram > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:47:05 PDT From: "Red Halcyon" Subject: Haunted buyable maybe I was doing a routine check throuh gemm.com and look what I found: Poe - Haunted, CD! I'm not going to buy this particular copy, one reason being that I haven't inquire into its authenticity/legitmacy. Also, I'm waiting to buy it instore, whenever that may be. The link in case you're interested: http://www6.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6304122&key=33325&a_refno=GML67195522 If that doesn't work too well, just go to gemm.com and do a power search for Poe's Haunted. Lee "Do your dreams come true?" "I haven't had a nice dream for years." - -Trois Couleurs: Rouge _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:07:08 -0000 From: leah staub Subject: NPR: "retarded" sorry guys cause i'm totally not keeping up on the list....random digests being read from time to time....and sorry if this has already been said BUT i totally agree with those of you who say that not everyone knows much about POE and we always have complaints about NPR messages and we shouldn't pick on those who ask questions that we might know the answers to BUT if i'm not mistaken, the response was specifically to the use of the term "retarded" which is a very touchy issue for lots of people.... just a thought back to lurking psycho hugs leah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:49:06 EDT From: TimmysPrplMunky@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #225 In a message dated 9/6/00 12:24:29 PM Pacific omg omg! that is too funny...me and my friends just started to like constantly say this b/c of my sn and the show!! that is too weird! **jessica** Daylight Time, fat_lester@yahoo.com writes: << I only have one thing to say: "TIMMMMAAAYYYY!" >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:21:25 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: "retarded" I think that people are taking this way too offensively, not to sound rude or anything. I have several autistic family members and if people are going to take that term so offensively and turn around and use phrases like "that is SO gay" then they are contradicting themselves. So if you take offense to one thing said you should watch what you say because what YOU say may offend someone else. Um yeah rock on. ~*~ If you live through this with me I swear that I will die for you and if you live through this with me I swear that, I will die for you~ Hole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:58:38 EDT From: JeZeBeLs1@aol.com Subject: NPR: but a good day indeed. I almost never write on this list, but I figured this was worthy....for those who are toriphilies... tori gave birth to a healthy baby girl yesterday sept 5. Imagine that, a little tori among us. how blessed we are. love. jeannine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:49:53 EDT From: TimmysPrplMunky@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: but a good day indeed. wow poe fans that like tori too!! i thought i was kinda alone! **jessica** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:02:19 -0700 (PDT) From: mark alec Subject: Re: NPR: but a good day indeed. no. we are all over the place. i have a tori concert on tape that i still need to send to ed... sorry ed. i'll get that to you as soon as i can. i'm a slacker. but tori still rules. - --- TimmysPrplMunky@aol.com wrote: > > wow poe fans that like tori too!! i thought i was > kinda alone! > **jessica** ===== mark alec http://www.geocities.com/--alec--/ the no-quote signature.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:10:08 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: but a good day indeed. In a message dated 9/6/2000 11:08:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TimmysPrplMunky@aol.com writes: << wow poe fans that like tori too!! i thought i was kinda alone! **jessica** >> Tori fans are never alone:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 21:59:27 PDT From: "Red Halcyon" Subject: Haunted lyrics? Is there a definitive lyrics page for the new/upcoming album? Lee "Do your dreams come true?" "I haven't had a nice dream for years." - -Trois Couleurs: Rouge _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:58:57 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Poe Chat Nice turn out last week for chat, about 20 AP's for the night, peaked at about 10 people in the chat at a time. Lots of getting reacquainted, trips down memory lane, spent time going through the 97 digests with exej and discussing the November release date for Haunted ... new faces, old faces, fun stuff, and INFO, maybe... and you never know, WHO might show uP.... 10 PM ? OK.... Had a look at the original post from Jarrod about establishing Thursdays as chat nite. And the beat goes on :> sp00k etc ... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----------------------------------------- Shes BaaaaaCK!! http://Poe.Org Visit My "POE" Place http://www.sp00k.com See What I See ? http://Go.To/Fairport Hear What I Hear ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live.ram 80K Feed ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live2.ram ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V5 #226 ***********************************