From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V5 #197 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, August 10 2000 Volume 05 : Number 197 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #195 [TimmysPrplMunky@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 [FallenCollective@aol.com] RE: Ticketmaster revealed! Was: Haunted... (warning... 4-letter words ahead) ["Tim Dube" ] RE: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 ["Mike Vaughn" ] Re: Haunted... ["Mark Holbrook" ] re: Re: Ticketmaster revealed! Was: Haunted... [herald25@bellsouth.net] NPR: slimy promoters Was: Ticketmaster revealed! [Ricky ] Re: Poe on Napster [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Poe on Napster ["nem0 Wood" ] Re: Poe on Napster [alec ] Re: Poe on Napster [KrodKnid@aol.com] New Album Streaming [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: New Album Streaming [KrodKnid@aol.com] Meet in #angry-psychos on DalNet [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: Re: Poe on Napster ["Matt Larsen" <@scottsbluff.net>] RE: Meet in #angry-psychos on DalNet [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 [FallenCollective@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:51:35 EDT From: TimmysPrplMunky@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #195 ok. . . . . . i know all of this was probably said like 10 zillion times but im kinda retarded so i was wondering if there is like an exact date this thing would take place??? if its on a weekend i can probably make it but i dont know. ok sorry to repeat anything. . . . . oh yeah if i sign up for the AP list again with the same name will i get the welcome letter with the password for the AP ward again b/c i like wanna sign up for it but i dont have the password. ok thats all **jessica** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:08:03 EDT From: FallenCollective@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 about ticketmaster, I own 100 shares on nasdaq of tmaster, and it's more then paid me back in my ticket price fees......if you really want to screw them have them pay you back!!!!!! - -mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 07:19:11 PDT From: "Tim Dube" Subject: RE: Ticketmaster revealed! Was: Haunted... (warning... 4-letter words ahead) Excellent point Ticketmaster gets to keep the $13 in "service charge" for my beastie boys/rage tickets that aren't getting used now! kill em all! - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mike Vaughn" To: Subject: RE: Ticketmaster revealed! Was: Haunted... (warning... 4-letter words ahead) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:01:07 -0700 Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Read my letter to them below. You'll see I'm not mad at the overall ticket prices (even though they are silly), but rather the "FEES" ticketmaster adds on. The worst part is if something goes wrong... like Flava' Flav' gets a venereal disease and the show is cancelled, guess who gets to keep their fees? Yep, that's right. They make $12.50 a ticket for a show that NEVER HAPPENED. No refunds, nothing. I'm speaking from experience. Fuck them. The only way to kill them is to avoid them at all costs. I either buy my tickets from the venue, get them for free, or I don't go. Anyway, I sent this.... - -----Original Message----- Subject: "I love Ticketmaster...." ...about as much as I love a fucking coffee enema. I just got the wonderful pleasure of paying $7.50 in Ticketmaster charges for a $10 event. Apparently, I had to pay the $7.50 no matter if I used the web or the customer service agent on the phone who, I swear, had an IQ of 40... tops. Lets see... I can do it on the web and frantically rush to get the tickets within the allotted 5 minutes, OR let the slow customer service agent take 35 minutes of my time in "up sell" sales pitches after taking 20 minutes to answer ONE simple question. Sure, I have the option to "not" attend... but then again, not even the fucking mob charges 75% interest. Dicks. Trust me when I say this is the last time I use Ticketmaster for anything. Fuck you all. - -Mike Vaughn - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Ricky Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 5:27 PM To: Patrick Langley Cc: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: NPR: Ticketmaster revealed! Was: Haunted... As a former employee of the ticketmaster administration I assure you that Ticketmaster isn't to blame for the ticket prices. Know where most of the money goes and who jacks up the price? The promoters. Then the venues. The promoters, for the most part, dictate the price. Especially when it's a well known band. I remember when the Stones came through Boston a couple of years back. Ticketmaster bent over and kissed the promoters ass. Anything they said goes. Including ticket prices. Then the venues, when they see a band coming that will sell out for sure, they charge the promoters a larger fee for renting the venue, so the promoter wants to pocket X amount of dollars ups the price so that they can pay the band, the overhead and the venue and still come away with X profit. Next largest cut goes to TM which is usually covered in the service charges which may tack on an annoying "added fee" but in comparison to the average cost of the tickets, it's not a large cut. And some of that money goes to outlet that sells the ticket if it's sold at an outlet. Promoters tend to be gready bastards. Big companies are just in business to make money. When it comes to smaller club shows, there's generally a standard price range that the venues sells at. Sorry. I don't mean to defend them. It's just that Ticketmaster's not really to blame. That's not to say they don't treat their employees like crap and they most certainly are a monopoly despite the fact that they won their anti-trust law suit. They do have good lawyers. Most of you are too young to remember what it was like to try and buy a ticket *before* Ticketmaster. While TM may not be perfect, you really should consider yourself lucky that it's as easy as it is. anyways, thomas On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Patrick Langley wrote: > > i don't think there will be any choice if she tours in the US. > pearl jam proved that you can't really tour without paying > the ticket-bastard pimping fee. > > remember take your vitamin E to keep your strength UP. > hehehehe, > ;-P > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Vaughn" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:37 PM > Subject: Haunted... > > > > > > Uh... uh... uh... oh... oh... ahhh... ug... uh... uh... owwww... yes... > > yes... yes...!!! > > Oh, pardon me, > > It's just that I'm on Orgasm #43 now that I got the entire new release > > thanks to someone called "ssather" on Napster. > > Now I'll never get any work done. Schiat. > > > > Looking forward to the tour and hoping they DON'T use Ticketmaster(bater). > > > > Rock on. > > -Mike > > (Istmir on Napster if you want it too) > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:25:22 -0700 (PDT) From: alec Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 that's not a bad idea... you win the "clever way of legally screwing the system and feeling all warm and fuzzy afterward" award for the day... ===== alec, the great http://www.geocities.com/--alec-- i'm lying still motionless i've lost my will hopelessness there's nothing left emptiness i cannot regain myself i cannot regain myself i cannot regain myself __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:07:17 -0700 From: "Mike Vaughn" Subject: RE: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 Yeah... not a bad move, but something way deep in the "ethics" part of my brain doesn't like it. Kinda like investing in Pfizer when the wife is becoming a Naturopathic Physician. Strange... I normally can't find that ethics part. Heh. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of FallenCollective@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 12:08 AM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 about ticketmaster, I own 100 shares on nasdaq of tmaster, and it's more then paid me back in my ticket price fees......if you really want to screw them have them pay you back!!!!!! - -mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:56:46 -0400 From: "Mark Holbrook" Subject: Re: Haunted... yeah, major props to ssather - whoever that is - got some tracks there too :) > It's just that I'm on Orgasm #43 now that I got the entire new release > thanks to someone called "ssather" on Napster. > Now I'll never get any work done. Schiat. ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 2000 15:03:51 -0600 From: herald25@bellsouth.net Subject: re: Re: Ticketmaster revealed! Was: Haunted... Alright I understand the venue jacks up the prices and all, but when the Chili Peppers came through, the tickets were, $28.50, with fees they came to $80.00 for grass seats, $100.00 for two if you wanted seats. I'm sorry, but ticketmaster is a thief no matter which way you say it. > ** Original Subject: Re: Ticketmaster revealed! Was: Haunted... > ** Original Sender: Ricky > ** Original Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:04:46 -0400 (EDT) > ** Original Message follows... > > Like I said, they're a monopoly, they treat their employees poorly, I'm > not defending them. All I'm saying is it's the promoters and venues who > really set the ticket prices. The service charges *do* add up and for > cheap shows are often half the cost. I have no problem if you want to bad > mouth TM, but you should at least be aware of the facts and badmouth the > others involved as well, the promoters and the venues. What they do just > happens out of the public eye where as ticketmaster is very much in it. > > Buying through the box office is still using ticketmaster, though maybe > less the service charges. The box office still uses not only > Ticketmaster's equipment but also the ticketmaster database network. > > See, what you folks who are upset don't seem to understand is that before > ticketmaster, unless you lived pretty much next door to the venue you > would never have seen half (or more) of the shows you've seen in your > life. Every onsale would be like the star wars movie where people camped > out for days, sometimes weeks, before hand. If anybody here has gone to a > show and had great seats, and I mean GREAT seats, it's either because you > know someone or because Ticketmaster makes it possible for *anyone* to get > them, not just the people who live near the venue (who before TM would > hold all the good seats for themselves to sell) or could afford to make > the expensive trips to the venue. > > The fact that you had the opportunity to drive to hollywood to buy the > tickets at the venue itself only proves that you have the time and means > to do so. Not everyone is so lucky as you. Think of all the people out > there who don't have cars, are too young, can't get off work. They'd never > see a show. > > Yes, $3.50 on a $6.00 ticket is silly. Most of this really makes sense > in terms of larger venue or arena shows, but you may want to spend some > time counting your blessings too. In parts fo the world $3.50 is more than > some people earn in a month after 7 days of hard labor. The fact that we > have the chance to debate the *extra* cost of ticket to a show is a > luxury in itself. It's also pretty pitiful so I'll drop it. > > -t > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Di wrote: > > > > > I don't care if they're not to blame or whatever, buying from ticketmaster > > is a total ripoff!!! One time when I was trying to get tickets to the > > hollywood bowl they wanted to charged me an extra $3.50 PER TICKET for only > > a $6.00 ticket (I wanted cheap seats). $3.50 per ticket is more than half > > of the ticket cost itself. PLUS ANOTHER $3.00 AS A CONVENIENCE CHARGE! I > > had wanted 3 tickets, which should be $18.00 at the box office, but with > > ticket master, it cost $36.00!! Now don't try and tell me that's not a > > freaking rip-off. Screw convenience, I ended up driving all the way down to > > hollywood to buy tickets from the box office. > > > > > > Di > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a former employee of the ticketmaster administration I assure you that > > > Ticketmaster isn't to blame for the ticket prices. Know where most of the > > > money goes and who jacks up the price? The promoters. Then the venues. > > > The promoters, for the most part, dictate the price. Especially when it's > > > a well known band. I remember when the Stones came through Boston a > > > couple of years back. Ticketmaster bent over and kissed the promoters > > > ass. Anything they said goes. Including ticket prices. Then the venues, > > > when they see a band coming that will sell out for sure, they charge the > > > promoters a larger fee for renting the venue, so the promoter wants to > > > pocket X amount of dollars ups the price so that they can pay the band, > > > the overhead and the venue and still come away with X profit. Next largest > > > cut goes to TM which is usually covered in the service charges which may > > > tack on an annoying "added fee" but in comparison to the average cost of > > > the tickets, it's not a large cut. And some of that money goes to outlet > > > that sells the ticket if it's sold at an outlet. > > > > > > Promoters tend to be gready bastards. Big companies are just in business > > > to make money. > > > > > > When it comes to smaller club shows, there's generally a standard price > > > range that the venues sells at. > > > > > > Sorry. I don't mean to defend them. It's just that Ticketmaster's not > > > really to blame. That's not to say they don't treat their employees like > > > crap and they most certainly are a monopoly despite the fact that they won > > > their anti-trust law suit. They do have good lawyers. > > > > > > Most of you are too young to remember what it was like to try and buy a > > > ticket *before* Ticketmaster. While TM may not be perfect, you really > > > should consider yourself lucky that it's as easy as it is. > > > > > > anyways, > > > thomas > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Patrick Langley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > i don't think there will be any choice if she tours in the US. > > > > pearl jam proved that you can't really tour without paying > > > > the ticket-bastard pimping fee. > > > > > > > > remember take your vitamin E to keep your strength UP. > > > > hehehehe, > > > > ;-P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mike Vaughn" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:37 PM > > > > Subject: Haunted... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh... uh... uh... oh... oh... ahhh... ug... uh... uh... owwww... > > yes... > > > > > yes... yes...!!! > > > > > Oh, pardon me, > > > > > It's just that I'm on Orgasm #43 now that I got the entire new release > > > > > thanks to someone called "ssather" on Napster. > > > > > Now I'll never get any work done. Schiat. > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to the tour and hoping they DON'T use > > Ticketmaster(bater). > > > > > > > > > > Rock on. > > > > > -Mike > > > > > (Istmir on Napster if you want it too) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Shawn Kuck Ask me about The Liberatarian Party or Harry Browne for President 2000 at herald25@bellsouth.net. Or check out www.lp.org or harrybrowne2000.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:10:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ricky Subject: NPR: slimy promoters Was: Ticketmaster revealed! Well, TM aside, if you want to see a promoter in the act of making a business deal with a venue, you should check out "Don't Look Back". It's a documentary of Dylan's '64 tour of England. There's a scene between Albert Grossman (Dylan's prmoter) and the head of one of the venues. I feel slimy by the end of the scene and I'm watching it how many years later? - -thomas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:33:01 -0400 (EDT) From: black_flame@iname.com Subject: Poe on Napster I'll admit, I don't know anything about Napster. The only reason I even installed it was because someone said you could get Poe's new albumn off of it. Well, I found the files, and I tried, but I keep getting some error about the person with the files not being configured properly or something. Can ANYBODY help me? Lynn - --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:52:38 -0500 From: "Patrick Langley" Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 I think you will find that ethics and money tend to be in opposition on most matters. And when it come right down to it, it's not a question of if you can be bought. Rather the question is how many zero's are attached at the end. Me personally, it involves about 8 zero's for anything you want. Or just a normal paycheck for that daily grind job. I guess with TM it seems to be more of the fact that I don't feel that I got value for what money they take, plus I have no alternative other than to not buy at all. Yeah you can go to the venue the day of the show. Good luck on finding a tix then. time to get off the soapbox > > Yeah... not a bad move, but something way deep in the "ethics" part of my > brain doesn't like it. > Kinda like investing in Pfizer when the wife is becoming a Naturopathic > Physician. > > Strange... I normally can't find that ethics part. Heh. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > FallenCollective@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 12:08 AM > To: angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 > > > > about ticketmaster, > I own 100 shares on nasdaq of tmaster, and it's more then paid me back > in my ticket price fees......if you really want to screw them have them pay > you back!!!!!! > -mike > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:39:02 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe on Napster In a message dated 8/9/2000 8:48:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, black_flame@iname.com writes: << I'll admit, I don't know anything about Napster. The only reason I even installed it was because someone said you could get Poe's new albumn off of it. Well, I found the files, and I tried, but I keep getting some error about the person with the files not being configured properly or something. Can ANYBODY help me? >> Heh, heh...that person is probably behind a firewall or something and neglected to inform Napster about it when they were setting up their software. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:02:50 -0600 From: "nem0 Wood" Subject: Re: Poe on Napster >Heh, heh...that person is probably behind a firewall or something and >neglected to inform Napster about it when they were setting up their software. If the user's "nek0nem0" then yeah, there's a firewall, but nobody informed me of its settings and I can't get around it. I have another download site for the album, but it's only gonna be up 'til August 23rd, and I'll only give it out by request. (I'm trying to keep the traffic to a minimum 'cause it's not my site...) Also, please don't message me on Napster after 5 pm MST, please. I leave my comp on all night when I'm not there. Thanks! ^_^ elsetime, nem0 - --- "I'm not a wallflower. I'm a ninja, and I'm trying to blend into the wallpaper. Now go away before you blow my cover." - -- http://nem0.cjb.net - -- ICQ#: 32102269 Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: alec Subject: Re: Poe on Napster i've never actually been to napster.. but i thought i'd actually try to get there too, since our lady's on there.. but it won't even let me open napster. oh well.. i've lived w/out napster this long, i don't think it'll be that much of a biggie for me to continue.. well later.. ===== alec, the great http://www.geocities.com/--alec-- i'm lying still motionless i've lost my will hopelessness there's nothing left emptiness i cannot regain myself i cannot regain myself i cannot regain myself __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 23:57:20 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe on Napster In a message dated 8/9/2000 11:11:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nem0@angelfire.com writes: << >Heh, heh...that person is probably behind a firewall or something and >neglected to inform Napster about it when they were setting up their software. If the user's "nek0nem0" then yeah, there's a firewall, but nobody informed me of its settings and I can't get around it. >> Well, when you first set up Napster it asks if you are behind a firewall (when it is determining what port to use). I assume if you check the box then Napster uses different settings to get at your MP3s. I can't find any place in the various Napster toolbar menus to change that, unless it has something to do with proxy servers, which you can find under "file/preferences/proxy". If you check one of the proxy options, it asks whether to download files via the proxy server or directly from the source. Maybe if you set that up it will make you accessable to other users:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 23:59:55 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: New Album Streaming Anyone that wants to hear the new album without downloading, I'm streaming it right now at: http://music.relicchat.org:7000 Simply open in Winamp, or click on the link and click Listen on the webpage.. :) Even you modem kids should be able to tune in.. :) - -Ed (Divinity) ed@poe.org http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:17:38 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: New Album Streaming In a message dated 8/10/2000 12:16:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hunsin_e@cc.denison.edu writes: << Even you modem kids should be able to tune in.. :) >> Well, Nake-Ed...I am about to get on DSL:-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:14:43 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: Meet in #angry-psychos on DalNet Hey, anyone that's around, meet me in #angry-psychos on irc.dal.net :) - -Ed (Divinity) ed@poe.org http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:30:31 +0000 (GMT) From: "Matt Larsen" <@scottsbluff.net> Subject: Re: Re: Poe on Napster Hey there, You have a download site for the album??? Please please please please please please!!!! Send your response to mlarsen@scottsbluf.net Thank you so much! Matt Larsen mlarsen@scottsbluff.net On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 nem0 Wood wrote: > > >Heh, heh...that person is probably behind a firewall or something and > >neglected to inform Napster about it when they were setting up their software. > > If the user's "nek0nem0" then yeah, there's a firewall, but nobody informed me of its settings and I can't get around it. I have another download site for the album, but it's only gonna be up 'til August 23rd, and I'll only give it out by request. (I'm trying to keep the traffic to a minimum 'cause it's not my site...) > > Also, please don't message me on Napster after 5 pm MST, please. I leave my comp on all night when I'm not there. Thanks! ^_^ > > elsetime, > nem0 > > --- > "I'm not a wallflower. I'm a ninja, and I'm > trying to blend into the wallpaper. Now go > away before you blow my cover." > > -- http://nem0.cjb.net > -- ICQ#: 32102269 > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:29:13 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: RE: Meet in #angry-psychos on DalNet Hey, all you AP's that want a quick way to get into the DalNet Channel, cllick below. It will load a JAva based chat client. :) http://divinity.relic.net/ap/chat.html - -Ed (Divinity) ed@poe.org http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:43:28 EDT From: Iam2ck1@aol.com Subject: HELLO AP's Hello Everyone of you AP's out there i'm just really pumped about this new album :) so i just giving much love all my fellow AP's Also i'm finally back on this list and just to fill you all in about me heres a few answers to some common questions My Name is Tan~ya but i go by Dagny Age: 19/f Loc: Portland,Or I'v been a fan since DAY ONE i love poe to death awesome vocals Other bands i love are GARBAGE,Jack Off Jill,MetallicA,Kittie Oh theres way to many to list and i can't forget how much i love my band also anyone that lives in the area that would like to check us out please DO! DAGNY's Agony! love you all Dagny aka Tan~ya ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:56:36 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: Yes! Yes! Yes! Oh my god yes! Wow, two tracks in and I'm already melting to the music. The first track gave me shivers, listening to Haunted now. Man, I really had to work for this one. After several days of getting Napster to work around the block my school has and then finding someone who would stay on long enough for me to download from, I finally got it in a matter of minutes thanks to fast connections. A few tinges of guilt for downloading it, but I know I'm going to buy it, and I know the amount of people I'm going to expose her to again through it will be good in the end. It'll be a great curiousity builder. "Yeah, this is Poe's new album, here you can listen to it, but run out and buy it on Sept. 19th when it comes out." :) How about a review? Here we go.. track by track: Track 1: Exploration B: SPooky, gave me chills to listen to it.. Track 2: Haunted: When the song first started, shivers went up my spine as I realized I was hearing Poe for the first time in a long long time. Track 3: Control: Nice beat in the beginning. No matter how many times I've heard the new version of Control, I still don't think it is as good as it was live (specifically when I heard it in DC). It's just not as edgy and rough as it was before and I think I like it more like that. Although it's still damn good, don't get me wrong. Track 4: Terrible Thought: I love the way her voice flows in this one. The beats are again on the verge of becoming almost DrumNBass-y. I can't wait to hear some of these remixes.. :) ... Lyrics would be nice to have in front of me. Right now I'm enjoying the musical content of her new album, and later I'll go back and hear the lyrics for what they are, but if anyone has finished with compiling the lyrics, I'd love to see it posted on someone's site (including mine) Track 5: Walk the Walk: Great radio song, really catchy, it'll grab your attention, and it's fun.. *Ed starts to nod his head to the beat* I hadn't heard this yet, even though it's floating around. Again, I'm feeling the strong urge to drop some more DrumNBass behind the music, but that's just me.. hehe "pleased to meet you!!" This is going to be a hit on the radio, and a whole hell of a lot of fun live. I still like how the ends of tracks bleed into the next ones.. Track 6: Terrified Heart: First listen, I can't understand what she's saying.. Hearing her sing in what I'm guessing is an answering machine is very touching (poor word choice, but I can't think of something better, next track is on.. :) Track 7: Wild: Kind of a lower key song, but still some energy behind it. Lyrics sound like they're meaningful, "I go wild, cause you break me open. I go wild, cause you left me here." "You're not the only one who runs on instincts." I like.. :) This is the longest song on the cd, and it seems like it goes through many different umm ?verses? it changes a lot so it can keep your attention for the full 9 minutes. "La da da da da da" *shivers* I can't believe she did that. Man, when can I get this track on vinyl and spin it into some sets? "Communication is not just words. Communication is architecture.." Nice.. Track 8: 5 and a Half Minute Hallway: Initial reaction-Whoa, what's this doing on here, this is different. I don't know about this. We'll see though. Good song, although, not one of my favorites. Nice and definite tie in to House of Leaves Track 9: Not A Virgin: What, you're not Poe? hehe :) "I don't think you want to start that shit with me." Man, this sounds like a song/group I've heard before, but I can't place it. Track 10: Hey Pretty: Ack, sorry, got distracted by setting up chat stuff. hehe Good song. Umm one I'll need to go back and listen to again more closely :) Track 11: Dear Johnny: Not much to comment on. I couldn't make out the lyrics the first run through (I'm awful at that) Track 12: Could Have Gone Mad: hehe ok the review is crumbling as I'm getting more involved in chatting hehe. Thanks to Eric, I now have lyrics (hehe even though he didn't realize they were there.) Here you guys go: http://houseofleaves.4t.com/poe.html I like this song. First few lines are great, and very applicable to my life right now. Plus she has the lines from her tour, the ones about the APs.. :) Track 13: Lemon Meringue: Heheh nice beginning. :) cool song. Track 14: Spanish Doll: Reminders of How Long at the very beginning. A great example of how beautiful Poe's voice can be. A great ballad song. Nice echo effect.. :) "Sweet Spanish.. Sweet..." It starts getting very Massive Attack like towards the end of the song. I like.. :) Track 15: House of Leaves: Chills.. why am I sitting in my room all alone? the nightmares are coming. Track 16: Amazed: Sexy voice Poe.. ;) grooowwrr!! I really like this song.. Her voice is just.. just.. I don't know... undescribable... This could be a good radio song eventually. A little long, but the voice is great, and the guitar is real catchy. I think this is one of my favorites on the album.. I definitely really really like this track.. Almost an indian sort of influence towards the last two minute mark.. "the voice of my father still loud as before it used to scare me but not anymore" "What is it Annie?" "I miss you" my eyes well up a bit.. the more and more I listen, and the more lyrics I read, the more personal this album gets. Much much much more than anything I've seen in a very long time. I begin to realize why it took so long for Poe to finish this album. I doubt this was an easy thing to make. Track 17: If You Were Here: *Ed sits and crys a little* - -Ed (Divinity) ed@poe.org http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:06:36 EDT From: FallenCollective@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V5 #196 A quick note-if you watch for the wharehouse adds to see what cds are coming up to be released, then you might have seen the one in this weeks rolling stone-it NEGLECTED TO MENTION OUR GODDESS-EMAIL THEM AND POES MANAGMENT-PROMOT(ION=SALES!!!!!!!! HELHER MAKE SOME $$$ AND TO SEND HER MUSIC TO MORE!!!!!!! - -mike ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V5 #197 ***********************************