From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V5 #163 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, July 6 2000 Volume 05 : Number 163 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NPR: test ["Notajunkie" ] NPR ["Randall Cordero Villegas" ] remove ["M. O'Brien" ] Re: NPR ["Shawn Laura Bross" ] FW: NPR ["Mike Vaughn" ] npr: Sonic Youth [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] npr:real music [Coldpoptarts@aol.com] RE: real music ["Mike Vaughn" ] npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] Re: npr:real music [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 ["Shawn Laura Bross" ] RE: Hello and new to list ["Stephen van Vuuren" ] Re: NPR [BloodAng97@aol.com] Re: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 [BloodAng97@aol.com] Re: NPR [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR ["." ] RE: npr:real music ["Notajunkie" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:47:27 -0500 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: NPR: test Just Testing, Sorry, Ignore - - "To rid yourself of an enemy, outlive him" --Vampire Proverb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:14:47 -0500 From: "Randall Cordero Villegas" Subject: NPR Is there any1 out there? Or are we again just on that stage called "silence moments"? Logic Man "The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom" I.H.N.I. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:29:25 -0700 From: "M. O'Brien" Subject: remove remove ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:38:52 MDT From: "Shawn Laura Bross" Subject: Re: NPR I love how one day with no post sends everyone into an insecure frenzy. We're here, but nothings going on. - -Shawn Laura Bross http://go.to/OterePyre >From: "Randall Cordero Villegas" >To: >Subject: NPR >Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:14:47 -0500 > > >Is there any1 out there? Or are we again just on that stage called >"silence >moments"? > >Logic Man > >"The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom" >I.H.N.I. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:55:42 -0700 From: "Mike Vaughn" Subject: FW: NPR Anyone on this group from Portland, OR? Sorry- I'm new - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Shawn Laura Bross Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:39 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR I love how one day with no post sends everyone into an insecure frenzy. We're here, but nothings going on. - -Shawn Laura Bross http://go.to/OterePyre >From: "Randall Cordero Villegas" >To: >Subject: NPR >Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:14:47 -0500 > > >Is there any1 out there? Or are we again just on that stage called >"silence >moments"? > >Logic Man > >"The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom" >I.H.N.I. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:22:21 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: npr: Sonic Youth Dude I just got Sonic Youth tickets I'm so ecstatic!!!!! ANDDDDD I found a Digweed/Sasha cd that's REALLY good AND found out that Sonic Youth is gonna play at this REALLY small bar thing right after their set so I'm gonna be able to see them UP CLOSE!!! Ahh I NEVER get good luck with concerts but this is SO awesome. Sorry umm yeah. ~*~Everybody hold on tight ~The Clash ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:57:48 EDT From: Coldpoptarts@aol.com Subject: npr:real music hey does anybody out here agree w/me that sonic youth sucks? and does anybody like real punk music not that fake gothic shit like smashing pumpkins. cherry *the insides sweet to bad you'll never get close enough to taste it* http://surf.to/littlepunkrawkgrrl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:25:43 -0700 From: "Mike Vaughn" Subject: RE: real music I saw Sonic Youth last year at Seattle's Bumbershoot. In fact, I was on the stage in the VIP booth and I wasn't that impressed. The funniest thing about it was when they bit it on one song and some kid in the front row yelled "Get yer shit together!" loud enough for everyone to hear. Everyone (including Thurston and Kim) had a good laugh. Heh. - -Mike - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Coldpoptarts@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:58 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: npr:real music hey does anybody out here agree w/me that sonic youth sucks? and does anybody like real punk music not that fake gothic shit like smashing pumpkins. cherry *the insides sweet to bad you'll never get close enough to taste it* http://surf.to/littlepunkrawkgrrl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:48:25 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 Ok first of all, mailing the whole list over a personal disagreement is very immature, but since you thought that doing this would make yourself feel as if you are right, I may as well respond and explain... although I'm sure half of you on this list really don't care. Also, the Smashing Pumpkins have nothing to do with punk, so I'm guessing that you tried to search my profile to disagree with something else. ALSO when you called me "uneducated" I found it QUITE funny that half of your sentences made no sense and half of your words weren't spelled right. Your contradictions amuse me. Belittling other people's opinions is also a little narrow-minded, don't ya think? Oh yeah, and considering that you had to call me a "bitch" to state your opinion then I guess you didn't have enough to back it up. OH YEAH!!!! You ALSO never gave me a REAL reason to why thinking Sonic Youth sucks. I asked you to give me reasons to why Sonic Youth sucks, and in your own very words you replied... "d on't start w/me and sonic youth sucks cause for they are just plain horrible everyone i know will tell you htat and once a band gets a record contract they become sell outs so that is too and for anoither i just think you are an uneducated bitch if you don't have a clue what real music is" Blink 182 vs Sonic Youth on MTV... Hmm who do you think is played more? I'm still waiting for my two other reasons.... STATE THEM. ~The meek may inherit the earth, but they don't get in to Harvard ~The Dead Poets Society ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:49:55 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: npr:real music In a message dated 7/5/2000 6:12:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Coldpoptarts@aol.com writes: <<********************* hey does anybody out here agree w/me that sonic youth sucks? <<****************************** Um...no. They do a lot of cool and innovative stuff. <<****************************** and does anybody like real punk music not that fake gothic shit like smashing pumpkins. <<******************************* Goth never was pretending to be punk in the first place...and since when are the Pumpkins "goth"? I consider groups like Rasputina, Cranes, Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, My Scarlet Life, Lisa Gerard, Black Tape For A Blue Girl, Arcanta, Lycia, Falling You, Soul Swirling Somewhere, Love Spirals Downwards, The Cure, The Changelings, Apoptygma Berzerk, Attrition, Estraya, New Creatures, Switchblade Symphony, et al to be goth/dark wave...but not the Smashing Pumpkins. But I do like "real" punk music too...I was in NYC for the first British invasion in 1979/80. I was even in a punk band then called Abraham's Foreskin:-) <<************************************ cherry *the insides sweet to bad you'll never get close enough to taste it* http://surf.to/littlepunkrawkgrrl >> Um, that should be "too" bad, not "to" bad...heh, heh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:31:52 MDT From: "Shawn Laura Bross" Subject: Re: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 These are the kind of posts I don't participate in. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and I'm entitled to think they're idiots. I dont want to disclose any opinions right now. I remember when I first joined back in October (September? November? not sure) I mentioned my disgust for Limp Bizkit and caused a big riot. I'm pretty sure some people got so sick of it that they left. Whoops. I learned my lesson. - -Shawn Laura Bross http://go.to/OterePyre ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:34:17 -0700 From: "Mike Vaughn" Subject: FW: real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 Geeesch... can't we all just get along? Heh. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 3:48 PM To: Subject: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 Ok first of all, mailing the whole list over a personal disagreement is very immature, but since you thought that doing this would make yourself feel as if you are right, I may as well respond and explain... although I'm sure half of you on this list really don't care. Also, the Smashing Pumpkins have nothing to do with punk, so I'm guessing that you tried to search my profile to disagree with something else. ALSO when you called me "uneducated" I found it QUITE funny that half of your sentences made no sense and half of your words weren't spelled right. Your contradictions amuse me. Belittling other people's opinions is also a little narrow-minded, don't ya think? Oh yeah, and considering that you had to call me a "bitch" to state your opinion then I guess you didn't have enough to back it up. OH YEAH!!!! You ALSO never gave me a REAL reason to why thinking Sonic Youth sucks. I asked you to give me reasons to why Sonic Youth sucks, and in your own very words you replied... "d on't start w/me and sonic youth sucks cause for they are just plain horrible everyone i know will tell you htat and once a band gets a record contract they become sell outs so that is too and for anoither i just think you are an uneducated bitch if you don't have a clue what real music is" Blink 182 vs Sonic Youth on MTV... Hmm who do you think is played more? I'm still waiting for my two other reasons.... STATE THEM. ~The meek may inherit the earth, but they don't get in to Harvard ~The Dead Poets Society ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:22:46 EDT From: LJRJAWS@aol.com Subject: Re: npr:real music ummm well i dont like sonic youth but i looove the smashing pumpkins...billy corgans got so much fucking talent you can watch it come outa his ears...sorry you dont feel that way..youre missing out ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:48:05 -0500 From: "Laurie" Subject: Re:npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 Ok, I know my opinion probably isn't necessary, but since other people are chiming in, I will too. Now, livethruthisvow, (I don't know your real name), I'm not sure who wrote the stuff you quoted... I got the impression it was from "cold pop tarts" but I can't be sure. In any case, whoever it was, really upset me. ">and once a band gets a record contract they become sell outs" I really, really, honestly hate to bring up the sellout argument again, but I think most of us, maybe all, can agree that a band is not "selling out" when they get a record contract!!!! Come on! That's such a dumbass thing to say. We're all entitled to our opinions I guess, but seriously! Whoever you are, who wrote to livethruthisvow, do you only listen to local bands who haven't been signed yet? Obviously not, since you're on a POE list! Since you use "sellout" with a negative connotation, one assumes that you don't like and/or approve of any sellouts, which let me remind everyone, are apparently people with record contracts. Well, I for one am certainly guilty of funding these "sellouts" through the purchase of their albums, seeing as how I have albums by Sonic Youth and Smashing Pumpkins. Shame on me for supporting the sellouts of the music world. - -Laurie - ---------------------------------------------- Original Message From: "" Subject: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:48:25 EDT > > Ok first of all, mailing the whole list over a personal disagreement is >very immature, but since you thought that doing this would make yourself feel >as if you are right, I may as well respond and explain... although I'm sure >half of you on this list really don't care. Also, the Smashing Pumpkins have >nothing to do with punk, so I'm guessing that you tried to search my profile >to disagree with something else. ALSO when you called me "uneducated" I found >it QUITE funny that half of your sentences made no sense and half of your >words weren't spelled right. Your contradictions amuse me. Belittling other >people's opinions is also a little narrow-minded, don't ya think? Oh yeah, >and considering that you had to call me a "bitch" to state your opinion then >I guess you didn't have enough to back it up. OH YEAH!!!! You ALSO never gave >me a REAL reason to why thinking Sonic Youth sucks. I asked you to give me >reasons to why Sonic Youth sucks, and in your own very words you replied... "d >on't start w/me and sonic youth sucks cause for they are just plain horrible >everyone i know will tell you htat and once a band gets a record contract >they become sell outs so that is too and for anoither i just think you are an >uneducated bitch if you don't have a clue what real music is" Blink 182 vs >Sonic Youth on MTV... Hmm who do you think is played more? I'm still waiting >for my two other reasons.... STATE THEM. > >~The meek may inherit the earth, but they don't get in to Harvard ~The Dead >Poets Society > > _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:29:31 EDT From: Coldpoptarts@aol.com Subject: Re: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 i never said i liked blink182's new stuff i like the stuff off the buddha cd and when did i say sp had anything to do w/ punk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:43:10 -0400 From: "Kelly Lesperance" Subject: RE: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 I thought you weren't participating :) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Shawn Laura Bross Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 7:32 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 These are the kind of posts I don't participate in. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and I'm entitled to think they're idiots. I dont want to disclose any opinions right now. I remember when I first joined back in October (September? November? not sure) I mentioned my disgust for Limp Bizkit and caused a big riot. I'm pretty sure some people got so sick of it that they left. Whoops. I learned my lesson. - -Shawn Laura Bross http://go.to/OterePyre ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:45:43 -0700 (PDT) From: alec Subject: Re: npr: Sonic Youth i thought sonic youth broke up? was this merely a delusion of mine (which i have often, mind you) or did they regroup? ===== alec, the great http://www.geocities.com/--alec-- i'm lying still motionless i've lost my will hopelessness there's nothing left emptiness i cannot regain myself i cannot regain myself i cannot regain myself __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:48:28 -0400 From: "Stephen van Vuuren" Subject: RE: Hello and new to list Hi, new to list and have "Hello" question. Several years ago, I heard a guitar heavy version of "Hello" very different from the album version both on the radio and on a music video. I called a radio station who told me it was not available for release or sale. I have not been able to find a version. How do I get the cut or is it even available? Stephen van Vuuren XIVEREN, Inc. Digital Motion Picture Production Greensboro, NC USA www.xiveren.com (336) 662-9894 "I love editing. I think I like it more than any other phase of filmmaking. If I wanted to be frivolous, I might say that everything that precedes editing is merely a way of producing film to edit." - -Stanley Kubrick, Spring 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:49:05 EDT From: BloodAng97@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR In a message dated 7/5/00 4:25:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcordero@bantec.com writes: << Is there any1 out there? >> i'm out here :Þ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:05:34 EDT From: BloodAng97@aol.com Subject: Re: npr:real music... is DEFINITLY not Blink 182 OK...this is a little off subject, but REALLY dislike the subject of these emails. What's wrong with Blink, if i may ask? Athena (glycerine) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:17:17 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR In a message dated 7/5/2000 11:56:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BloodAng97@aol.com writes: << << Is there any1 out there? >> i'm out here :Þ >> And I'm out there:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "." Subject: Re: NPR Out where? Somewhere beyond the stars? Beyond the sea? New Jersey? On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Randall Cordero Villegas wrote: > > Is there any1 out there? Or are we again just on that stage called "silence > moments"? > > Logic Man > > "The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom" > I.H.N.I. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:15:02 -0500 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: RE: npr:real music I don't listen to Sonic Youth, I don't like Smashing Pumpkins, and I just saw Blink 182 on Monday, They SUCK live, I listen to Bad Religion, and other bands that make me feel better about myself and hope for the future of this planet. That is a good band, one that provokes a feeling or emotion that can stick with you for a long time to come. Thank You, I will now stop Tupthumping............... Question to ponder? Are Blink 182 major sell-outs? Or are they just possers looking to capitalize on the "punk" image all along. You decide. - - "Bargin not with the Darkness, in time it will take us all" --Vampire Proverb ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V5 #163 ***********************************