From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V4 #324 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, December 27 1999 Volume 04 : Number 324 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NPR: Backstreet's Back Alright [Xeno55@aol.com] Re: NPR: Backstreet's Back Alright ["Gabrielle Wootton" ] Fwd: Jones @ The Mint ["Bich Ngoc Cao" ] Re: NPR: gwoot2@hotmail.com is racist [Oddity3579@aol.com] NPR: Let's Cut Him [Xeno55@aol.com] Re: NPR: Let's Cut Him [Coldpoptarts@aol.com] Re: Let's Cut Him ["sp00k@poe.org" ] NPR: Again, People Don't Read [Xeno55@aol.com] Re: Again, People Don't Read ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: NPR: gwoot2@hotmail.com is racist ["Chopsley: Rabid Bikini Model" ] (no subject) [SParkzZ82@aol.com] NPR: New Topic [RE: (no subject)] [Jason Capriotti > That's a foolish statement. If you listen to a band simply because they're not well known then you are doing the same thing as the clans of shrieking girls shelling out dollar after dollar for the Backstreet Boys. But if you want to buy according to who else owns the albums, go right ahead. Me, total unit sales don't influence how the cd sounds. This allows me to listen to what I think sounds good rather than what pop culture deems to sound good or, in your case, what pop culture ignores. -Xeno p.s. try to make a statement with something other than the music you listen to. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 13:03:01 CST From: "Gabrielle Wootton" Subject: Re: NPR: Backstreet's Back Alright Well, of course xeno had to put in his two cents about what he thinks is wrong with someone expressing an opinion. Leave it to xeno to say something hateful. In a message dated 12/26/99 1:23:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, oterepyre@hotmail.com writes: << Bands that no one has heard of kick ass. >> That's a foolish statement. If you listen to a band simply because they're not well known then you are doing the same thing as the clans of shrieking girls shelling out dollar after dollar for the Backstreet Boys. But if you want to buy according to who else owns the albums, go right ahead. Me, total unit sales don't influence how the cd sounds. This allows me to listen to what I think sounds good rather than what pop culture deems to sound good or, in your case, what pop culture ignores. - -Xeno p.s. try to make a statement with something other than the music you listen to. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:13:42 EST From: Xeno55@aol.com Subject: NPR: gwoot2@hotmail.com is racist In a message dated 12/26/99 2:03:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, gwoot2@hotmail.com writes: << Well, of course xeno had to put in his two cents about what he thinks is wrong with someone expressing an opinion. >> Okay stupid, you've let your personal feelings about me cloud your thoughts. I didn't state that someone expressing an opinion is wrong. I support freedom of speech. I stated a counter-opinion. Perhaps you should read what I write rather than simply seeing my name and deciding it's time to be rude. As for hateful? You sound like a bible-totin', Pat Robertson-lovin', Christian. Is that what you were going for? - -Xeno p.s. You ate up the enemy I made for you with glee. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:29:50 -0800 (PST) From: Shanna Hollich Subject: *NPR* - youngest list member and *PR* - Poe jacket guy - --- Shawn Bross wrote: > > hello poe fans i am new! > > - my name is max > - i am 15 years old and a leo (like napoleon) > > I think you've just replaced me as the youngest. Well, I'm 14...anyone out there who can beat that? Also, if the guy who was selling Poe jackets a while back is still on the list (radiof @ something? maybe? I don't remember...), could you please contact me? My jacket's starting to die on me, and I was wondering if there was any way I could get a new one. Thanks. ===== Shanna Hollich - Shadow123@poe.org Yahoo! Messenger: Shadow123 AOL IM: RHFoJo ICQ UIN: 26674614 NO !D N B- T C~ O++ CV _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 13:31:00 CST From: "Gabrielle Wootton" Subject: Re: NPR: gwoot2@hotmail.com is racist I refuse to engage in this childish exchange of insults. You attacked the person who posted about his choice of music. If you were not consistently rude and contemptuous, there would be no reason to point it out. It is ridiculous for you to use your history of vile and mean spirited posts as a defense for your actions, or a reason why you should not be blamed. As for me, you know nothing about me. I have been raised in Christian Science, but have never believed it and for the past few years I have been in more of an agnostic state of mind as I personally doubt the existance of a god at all. Religion has been a sensitive issue in my life and in my family lately, and to make blind, ignorant claims about my motivations based on religion which you know absolutely nothing about is absurd. So here's the chain of events which seems to happen every time someone posts: Someone posts about music or some other trivial issue, you make a personal attack, as no matter what the view it is wrong in your eyes, someone else speaks up about the harshness of the attack, you get defensive and make blind, asinine claims, such as racism or religious belifs directed at the third party. And as I'm sure you have problems reading big words and long sentences, here it is, plain and simple: FUCK OFF. In a message dated 12/26/99 2:03:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, gwoot2@hotmail.com writes: << Well, of course xeno had to put in his two cents about what he thinks is wrong with someone expressing an opinion. >> Okay stupid, you've let your personal feelings about me cloud your thoughts. I didn't state that someone expressing an opinion is wrong. I support freedom of speech. I stated a counter-opinion. Perhaps you should read what I write rather than simply seeing my name and deciding it's time to be rude. As for hateful? You sound like a bible-totin', Pat Robertson-lovin', Christian. Is that what you were going for? - -Xeno p.s. You ate up the enemy I made for you with glee. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:46:48 MST From: "Shawn Bross" Subject: Re: NPR: Backstreet's Back Alright ...somebody needs some Midol. - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Xeno55@aol.com To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: NPR: Backstreet's Back Alright Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:41:07 EST In a message dated 12/26/99 1:23:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, oterepyre@hotmail.com writes: << Bands that no one has heard of kick ass. >> That's a foolish statement. If you listen to a band simply because they're not well known then you are doing the same thing as the clans of shrieking girls shelling out dollar after dollar for the Backstreet Boys. But if you want to buy according to who else owns the albums, go right ahead. Me, total unit sales don't influence how the cd sounds. This allows me to listen to what I think sounds good rather than what pop culture deems to sound good or, in your case, what pop culture ignores. - -Xeno p.s. try to make a statement with something other than the music you listen to. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:10:12 PST From: "Bich Ngoc Cao" Subject: Fwd: Jones @ The Mint I thought some of you LA psychos might be interested in this. bich ngoc - ----Original Message Follows---- The Jones Show @ The Mint w/Cameron Stone on cello & vocals (from POE's old band) 6010 W. Pico Blvd (bet. LaCienega & Fairfax) THIS WEDNESDAY 9PM Also, directly after @ 10pm, I'll be drumming with Ladan Sumac who I recently recorded and produced. Dan Marfisi 323-665-4006 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:25:46 EST From: Oddity3579@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: gwoot2@hotmail.com is racist ::applauds:: I refuse to engage in this childish exchange of insults. You attacked the person who posted about his choice of music. If you were not consistently rude and contemptuous, there would be no reason to point it out. It is ridiculous for you to use your history of vile and mean spirited posts as a defense for your actions, or a reason why you should not be blamed. As for me, you know nothing about me. I have been raised in Christian Science, but have never believed it and for the past few years I have been in more of an agnostic state of mind as I personally doubt the existance of a god at all. Religion has been a sensitive issue in my life and in my family lately, and to make blind, ignorant claims about my motivations based on religion which you know absolutely nothing about is absurd. So here's the chain of events which seems to happen every time someone posts: Someone posts about music or some other trivial issue, you make a personal attack, as no matter what the view it is wrong in your eyes, someone else speaks up about the harshness of the attack, you get defensive and make blind, asinine claims, such as racism or religious belifs directed at the third party. And as I'm sure you have problems reading big words and long sentences, here it is, plain and simple: FUCK OFF. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:10:49 EST From: Xeno55@aol.com Subject: NPR: Let's Cut Him I've noticed that all of the replies to my post earlier today have failed to mention the actual meaning in my message. If you people want to insult me, go right ahead but take your cue from me, throw a bit of a point in with the insults. Perhaps you were confused. My point was that generalizing that bands who are unknown by the masses are "good" is not a great idea. Of course, most generalizations are bad things. I would not generalize a race of people nor would I generalize about a gender. You simply can't do it. There are unknown bands that have great talent but there are also unknown bands that are talentless stoners who spend all day in their parent's garbage smoking herb and making noise. Does anyone disagree with this? Can anyone argue with me on a level other than, "You're a bad person. Jesus doesn't like you so I can swear at you." Take your doctrine elsewhere, I know you don't believe it. love, Xeno p.s. I dare you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:25:49 EST From: Coldpoptarts@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Let's Cut Him ok this is all extremely stupid. It is obvious that everyone has a different opinion on the subject.well lets face it everyone has a different poit of view on everything. so why on't you just quit acting like babies and get a life. oh yeah let me introduce my self a little bit my name is meg i'm 15 and punk so don't piss me off cause i have a worse attitude than even of you bitches. later meg. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:55:31 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Let's Cut Him - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 6:10 PM Subject: NPR: Let's Cut Him there are also unknown bands that are > talentless stoners who spend all day in their parent's garbage smoking herb > and making noise. Redundant and ignorant all in one sentence as if being a "stoner" does not imply smoking herb...... but I seriously doubt it has anything to do with lack of talent. Plenty of dope smoking musicians go on to fine careers, ever heard of a place called Jamaica or a guy named Bob Marley? Or Bob Dylan who sang "everybody must get stoned" not that it's anything to brag about but probably the majority of what is good in the arts came from some troubled soul who at some point battled some form of substance abuse....Mite do you some good to grab a phat one and go make some noise...... sp00k irc.us.dal.net #poe #angry-psychos ICQ9934870 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:14:45 EST From: Xeno55@aol.com Subject: NPR: Again, People Don't Read In a message dated 12/26/99 6:59:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: << sp00k >> Some people are just dumb. I didn't say there was a connection between lighting up and playing poorly. "People" see what they want to see in my work. -Xeno ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:47:02 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Again, People Don't Read ( xeno > Some people are just dumb. I didn't say there was a connection between > lighting up and playing poorly. "People" see what they want to see in my work. ) Here is what you said "but there are also unknown bands that are talentless stoners who spend all day in their parent's garbage smoking herb and making noise." If you had said but there are also unknown bands that are talentless who spend all day in their parent's garbage making noise. there would be no implied correlation between smoking dope and not having talent. Since you mentioned DUMB set me straight, how do you fit a band into ones "parent's garbage" I'm trying to visualize this, 5 or 6 guys and girls with all there instruments and weed and stuff, smoking and jamming, all in a 55 gallon drum with stinking garbage and flies and stuff.......????? Did eYe miss sumthin again? hmmm perhapz it'z cuz eYe sm0ke 2 much an a spell checker can't fix fux........ Course what dew eYe know? eYe am just people who shops like mad at walmart and eYe certainly wouldn't want to make the error of "seeing" your work in the wrong lite..... sp00k irc.us.dal.net #poe #angry-psychos ICQ9934870 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:24:57 -0800 From: "Chopsley: Rabid Bikini Model" Subject: Re: NPR: gwoot2@hotmail.com is racist You Go! As for "underground" bands being better, well, usually they are! This is not to say that major label groups cannot be brilliant (POE, Rasputina), but i feel that a band is at it's best when they do not have to cater to major labels' wishes of a "gimmick". that is juts my OPINION, so tear it up if you want. go gwoot go! max Gabrielle Wootton wrote: > I refuse to engage in this childish exchange of insults. You attacked the > person who posted about his choice of music. If you were not consistently > rude and contemptuous, there would be no reason to point it out. It is > ridiculous for you to use your history of vile and mean spirited posts as a > defense for your actions, or a reason why you should not be blamed. As for > me, you know nothing about me. I have been raised in Christian Science, but > have never believed it and for the past few years I have been in more of an > agnostic state of mind as I personally doubt the existance of a god at all. > Religion has been a sensitive issue in my life and in my family lately, and > to make blind, ignorant claims about my motivations based on religion which > you know absolutely nothing about is absurd. So here's the chain of events > which seems to happen every time someone posts: Someone posts about music or > some other trivial issue, you make a personal attack, as no matter what the > view it is wrong in your eyes, someone else speaks up about the harshness of > the attack, you get defensive and make blind, asinine claims, such as racism > or religious belifs directed at the third party. And as I'm sure you have > problems reading big words and long sentences, here it is, plain and simple: > FUCK OFF. > > In a message dated 12/26/99 2:03:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > gwoot2@hotmail.com writes: > > << Well, of course xeno had to put in his two cents about what he thinks is > wrong with someone expressing an opinion. >> > > Okay stupid, you've let your personal feelings about me cloud your thoughts. > I didn't state that someone expressing an opinion is wrong. I support > freedom > of speech. I stated a counter-opinion. Perhaps you should read what I write > rather than simply seeing my name and deciding it's time to be rude. As for > hateful? You sound like a bible-totin', Pat Robertson-lovin', Christian. Is > that what you were going for? > > -Xeno > > p.s. You ate up the enemy I made for you with glee. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:22:00 EST From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Let's Cut Him seriously... opinions are like asses... everyone's got one... but you just shouldn't go around showing it in public cuz not everyone wants to see it by the way, nicely put meg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:24:37 EST From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's Cut Him In a message dated 12/26/99 6:59:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: > Mite do you some good to grab a phat one and go make some > noise...... or maybe grab a phat one so he can mellow out and shut his trap (although maybe it's the drugs that got him there in the first place) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:07:45 MST From: "Shawn Bross" Subject: Re: NPR: gwoot2@hotmail.com is racist I whole heartedly agree. ::applauds:: - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Oddity3579@aol.com To: gwoot2@hotmail.com, Xeno55@aol.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR: gwoot2@hotmail.com is racist Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:25:46 EST ::applauds:: I refuse to engage in this childish exchange of insults. You attacked the person who posted about his choice of music. If you were not consistently rude and contemptuous, there would be no reason to point it out. It is ridiculous for you to use your history of vile and mean spirited posts as a defense for your actions, or a reason why you should not be blamed. As for me, you know nothing about me. I have been raised in Christian Science, but have never believed it and for the past few years I have been in more of an agnostic state of mind as I personally doubt the existance of a god at all. Religion has been a sensitive issue in my life and in my family lately, and to make blind, ignorant claims about my motivations based on religion which you know absolutely nothing about is absurd. So here's the chain of events which seems to happen every time someone posts: Someone posts about music or some other trivial issue, you make a personal attack, as no matter what the view it is wrong in your eyes, someone else speaks up about the harshness of the attack, you get defensive and make blind, asinine claims, such as racism or religious belifs directed at the third party. And as I'm sure you have problems reading big words and long sentences, here it is, plain and simple: FUCK OFF. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:12:22 MST From: "Shawn Bross" Subject: Re: NPR: Let's Cut Him >my name is meg i'm 15 and punk so don't piss me off cause i have a >worse >attitude than even of you bitches Hey, I'm the bitchy overbearing punk here! Just joking, welcome aboard. - -Shawn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 00:22:30 EST From: SParkzZ82@aol.com Subject: (no subject) I don't like the direction these emails i keep getting are going in, so why don't we start a new topic? okie dokie? - -jess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:32:11 -0600 From: Jason Capriotti Subject: NPR: New Topic [RE: (no subject)] I would like to take a moment to thank Jason Crawford for mentioning "Run Lola Run" several months ago (and Brianna for mentioning it to me last week). I ordered the DVD from Buy.Com last week, and I'm anticipating its arrival early this week. It better be as good as everyone says it is... J - -----Original Message----- From: SParkzZ82@aol.com [mailto:SParkzZ82@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 11:23 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: (no subject) I don't like the direction these emails i keep getting are going in, so why don't we start a new topic? okie dokie? - -jess ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 01:04:16 EST From: PyroShwee@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Let's Cut Him I beg to differ sweetie... go ride your bike. And this flame thing is stupid... pick another topic.. like..what did you all get for Christmas? (and if you dont celebrate it, you dont need to announce to everyone, we already know) ashley pyroshwee@aol.com In a message dated 12/26/99 6:27:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, Coldpoptarts@aol.com writes: << let me introduce my self a little bit my name is meg i'm 15 and punk so don't piss me off cause i have a worse attitude than even of you bitches. >> ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V4 #324 ***********************************