From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V4 #105 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, April 25 1999 Volume 04 : Number 105 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: angry-psychos-digest V4 #104 [Leah Staub ] NPR: Columbine, one last time :) ["Mike Sadler" ] Angry Psychos AOL chat [TVCCCoyote@aol.com] NPR: Just a thought.. ["Crissy Fletcher" ] [none] ["David Furlong" ] about 4:20... [slave1@InfoAve.Net] re: 4:20 [Catherine Lewis ] Re: 4:20 ramble [Zinger ] Re: 4:20 ramble ["Anfrey Cheng" ] Re: Kids ["Emily Nisley" ] Re: Kids [HapaBleu82@aol.com] Re: about 4:20... [KrodKnid@aol.com] [none] ["David Furlong" ] NPR: The Matrix ["David Furlong" ] Test dont read ["sp00k@poe.org" ] NPR:Phaq What does the number 420 signify, and why ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: ["Coleman Jeremiah L." ] Re: Kids [PyroShwee@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:47:13 -0500 From: Leah Staub Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V4 #104 At 01:30 AM 4/24/99 -0400, you wrote: (Now I wonder where "4:20" came from >seing as how it's become a horrible day for tragedy. If anyone knows, tell >me) my understanding is that it's the police code for something to do with marajuana....i dunno technical names of stuff....but it's kinda like 311 (if i'm not mistaken, indecent exposure) that's what they told us to explain the jokes they made during new student week here....the useless stuff you learn at college....well, maybe not useless when you know what the large gathering being eyed by security is.... that's all i have to say.... leah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:04:53 -0700 From: "Mike Sadler" Subject: NPR: Columbine, one last time :) I've just gotten through reading the last couple of digests, and everything that was said has really made me think. A lot of it I agree with, a lot of it I don't. I don't really have any wisdom or insight of my own to add, but I happened to come up with poem today while at lunch, and I just wanted to share it... "Columbine Lament" I walked down the hallway of my memory, And crept Into the room Where Tuesday slept. I veered away from the center of the room And made my way toward the back, Into the first silent hours of dawn. I had arisen earlier than usual, And driven to the local pool To swim a while, Before continuing my day In the usual way. The predawn sky, Still blissfully asleep, Was a light violet And smelled of perfume. The chilly spring air Tickled my skin, And the colder water slapped it hard As I jumped boldly in. I spent a long half-hour Digging my arms into the water, Feeling the tiny waves Lap against my side. Soon the water was warm, Like a blanket, Wrapping itself lovingly around me. As I lay upon the water Like driftwood, on my back, I watched the quiet sky awaken. At that hour, At that minute, The air was absent of all sound - -- no voices, no thunder -- Except for the birds And the babbling water. The children awoke, Bleary-eyed and content, Some laughing, Some grumbling, All getting ready To continue their day In the usual way. At that hour, So blissfully bland, I thought of nothing but water. I had no thoughts Of offices, or newscasts, Cars, or crowds, No thought of ever Knowing the name of A school Hundreds of miles away. In my memory, I crawled into this mundane moment, This last tiny, jeweled, Unblemished moment in time, And wanted to stay there Forever. *** Thanks for reading. Peace to all of you. - -- Max ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:19:11 EDT From: TVCCCoyote@aol.com Subject: Angry Psychos AOL chat Just created the chat room as a service to all the Psycho bretheren. I'm under Arts and Entertainment, "created by AOL members" Ian Davis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:08:21 PDT From: "Crissy Fletcher" Subject: NPR: Just a thought.. Hey guys, so has anyone ever thought of that whole relating it to musical groups thing. Like when someone in a musical group dies. When a Rock star dies most commonly they die of a drug overdose. When a Rap star dies its common they die from a drive by, or somehow get shot. When a Country star dies its from like a heart attack or something. So if they want to blame it on the Rock genre shouldn't those kids have drugged them or something. The Rap artists (whatever you choose to call them) are the ones with the gun paraphernalia etc. They have the guns not the Rock groups. Thats just the thought that came into my head from reading the other posts. Crissy *"Lifes to short to listen to shitty music!" - -- Poe (radio clip from X103.9 fm Ca radio station) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:12:38 PDT From: "David Furlong" Subject: [none] All I can say about the situation in Colorado is that it has happened before and it will happen again. There is little anyone can (or will) do to stop it. Nobody will take the blame for not stopping these things before they happen. So people use all those nasty 'non- conformists' as scapegoats. It happens all the time. Movies get pulled from shelves, bands get boycotted, people are persecuted for any similarity to the perpetrators. The cycle continues. David E. Furlong Everyone get your shotguns - you're not to blame. It's that damn music. It's the damn movies. Shoot 'em up kids. Have your fun. Blow someones brains out. In case anyone's wondering - I wear a black trenchcoat. I listen to Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds. I read Red Meat Comics. I'm a manic- depressive. I watch violent movies. I like roleplaying. I wear business suits (that threw ya, didn't it). i haven't killed anyone yet. But if I do, i can bet it'll all be Marylin manson's fault. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 05:53:51 -0500 From: slave1@InfoAve.Net Subject: about 4:20... i *could* be wrong...but as far as i've always known/thought, much like the term "187" which has become fairly well known to mean "murder", is just police code in california...a "187" means a murder. well much like that "420" is a police code for a marijuana violation. i'm *pretty* sure im right about this...although i'm not sure WHAT could possibly be inhibiting my memory ;-) hehe. so anyways...the 420 has kinda just blown up, and 4/20 on the calendar year is now like the "hippie new year" or smoke out day, whatever u wanna call it. hehe. and the 4:20 time thing too..just everything, all spawned from that.. but hey...nothing wrong with it...a fine set of numbers IMHO. =) eveyrone has gotten to spend there $.02, so here's mine. later all. slave1 ¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^* no matter what they say...i'll always be a slave... my mind is my master...don't take away my pride... my dreams will be my guide...for now and ever after © -Leæther Strip- ¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^*¤~^* take a trip into my mind via pulsewidth: http://members.xoom.com/pulsewidth/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:22:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine Lewis Subject: re: 4:20 > (Now I wonder where "4:20" came from seing as how it's become a > horrible day for tragedy. If anyone knows, tell me) Er.... I was always under the impression that 4/20 (and likewise 4:20 am or pm) had significance among herb-smokers because 420 is the police code for marijuana possession.... no clue what this has to do with the Colorado killings. Or, for that matter, Poe. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:47:43 -0400 From: Zinger Subject: Re: 4:20 ramble Someone once told me that all the clocks in "Pulp Fiction" are set for 4:20. Catherine Lewis wrote: > > (Now I wonder where "4:20" came from seing as how it's become a > > horrible day for tragedy. If anyone knows, tell me) > > Er.... I was always under the impression that 4/20 (and likewise 4:20 am > or pm) had significance among herb-smokers because 420 is the police > code for marijuana possession.... > > no clue what this has to do with the Colorado killings. > > Or, for that matter, Poe. > > Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:51:24 -0500 From: "Anfrey Cheng" Subject: Re: 4:20 ramble Yes they are :) - --- Anfrey Cheng anfrey@purdue.edu anfrey@ieee.org http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~cheng3/ 765.495.2277.x2 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Zinger To: angry-psychos Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 9:47 AM Subject: Re: 4:20 ramble > > Someone once told me that all the clocks in "Pulp Fiction" are set for 4:20. > > Catherine Lewis wrote: > > > > (Now I wonder where "4:20" came from seing as how it's become a > > > horrible day for tragedy. If anyone knows, tell me) > > > > Er.... I was always under the impression that 4/20 (and likewise 4:20 am > > or pm) had significance among herb-smokers because 420 is the police > > code for marijuana possession.... > > > > no clue what this has to do with the Colorado killings. > > > > Or, for that matter, Poe. > > > > Catherine > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:06:32 EDT From: "Emily Nisley" Subject: Re: Kids >Swastika's were not originally meant for a >bad purpose and some people today still don't take it as such. If >those boys out in Colorado drew swastika's, before coming to >conclusions, maybe we should know their definitions of what the sign >meant to them. but i guess that opportunity is lost. oh c'mon!! yes, the swastika is an ancient symbol, representing good to a variety of cultures around the world - BUT it seems very obvious to me that these boys were using the swastika in reference to Hitler. They were Hitler fans! CNN reported that when other students in the school's bowling league gave each other high-fives for strikes, these guys gave eachother the Nazi one-arm salute. They targeted minorities as victims (which, i know, doesn't necessarily mean they were following a Nazi ideal, but it does fit with the picture). I do think that it's ridiculous that the media/school officials are focusing on the black clothes/trenchcoat thing....it's a really silly reaction, and one that will affect a lot of people who would never, ever commit such violence. There were kids at my high school who wore black dusters, and i'm pretty sure that it didn't have anything to do with hitler or marilyn manson..... the black clothes connection should definitely be questioned - the swatiska use, on the other hand, it pretty open-and-shut in this case. - -emily *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* what doesn't E N B D, B rE a Ks. - a.d. =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:05:13 EDT From: HapaBleu82@aol.com Subject: Re: Kids Hi can we all just get off the whole Columbine / 420 deal.. I mean 420 is everyday BiG DEAL.. even tho it is fun : ) I totally feel bad about the Colorado thing.. but hey.. if we want to hear More about it.. cant we just watch the Today Show?! Lets hear about POE!!! Peace Out - Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:03:08 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: about 4:20... In a message dated 4/24/99 6:58:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, slave1@InfoAve.Net writes: << i *could* be wrong...but as far as i've always known/thought, much like the term "187" which has become fairly well known to mean "murder", is just police code in california...a "187" means a murder. well much like that "420" is a police code for a marijuana violation >> A 502 is the cop code for driving under the influence in California.It is so well known that nobody even calls it drunk driving anymore.I suppose 420 is the same deal :o) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:42:58 PDT From: "David Furlong" Subject: [none] Just another thought. Did any of you who complained about being called to the principal's office for weraing a black trenchcoat (or basically any black coat) think that maybe it wasn't out of fear that you'd pull a copycat of Colorado. Maybe the people who look at you funny are just doing so because they see a lack of respect there. Don't take any of this personally anyone and my apologies if I got what you said wrong. David E. Furlong ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:44:59 PDT From: "David Furlong" Subject: NPR: The Matrix The only reason I can think of for why Switch wore white is because she was the secondary female character and if she wore black the audience might confuse her for Trinity. All the men get to wear black because Keanu Reeves is obviously the hero. David E. Furlong ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:41:04 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Test dont read test dont read!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:48:15 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR:Phaq What does the number 420 signify, and why My mail service has been down, I suspect due to a switch to IE5, and having my settings set to "html" format instead of "text" format so, I will send a few short posts, and eventualy ad my 2cents on Denver. For info on "420" visit http://www.phish.net/PhishFAQ/n420.html sp00k@poe.org IRC IRC.US.DAL.NET #poe #angry-psychos telnet://telnet.dal.net ICQ 9934870 telnet://rinx.com http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/lounge/1971 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:16:00 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR: Lords Of Acid The band that is... if ya never heard them don't miss it, if you have, I'm sure you won't. Sunday 11PM East http://wber.monroe.edu or visit the producer @ http://www.universalbuzz.com for listings of local and other net stations. Universal Buzz Radio is an independent, nationally syndicated radio program broadcast across North America. The hour long show features an ecclectic collection of live music and provocative conversations with a broad variety of innovative artists. In support of free-form radio, Universal Buzz offers each show free of charge to forward thinking, non-commercial, community, and college stations We feature live performances from many of your favorite bands including: Cherry Poppin' Daddies, Megadeth, Ani DiFranco to Henry Rollins and Fugazi. If you want to see more, fasten your seatbelt and check out the catalog. sp00k@poe.org IRC IRC.US.DAL.NET #poe #angry-psychos telnet://telnet.dal.net telnet://rinx.com ICQ 9934870 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/lounge/1971 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:37:30 -0500 From: "Coleman Jeremiah L." Subject: Re: At 02:42 PM 4/24/99 PDT, David Furlong wrote: > > Just another thought. Did any of you who complained about being >called to the principal's office for weraing a black trenchcoat (or >basically any black coat) think that maybe it wasn't out of fear that >you'd pull a copycat of Colorado. Maybe the people who look at you >funny are just doing so because they see a lack of respect there. >Don't take any of this personally anyone and my apologies if I got >what you said wrong. > >David E. Furlong Just a note on the trenchcoat issue. I used to wear my trench nearly constantly when I lived near seattle, due to the weather, and still wear it often here (southern louisiana), due to the nasty rainstorms we get quite often. Maybe someone would see it as a mark of disrespect, but maybe those same people should take a good look at their methods of assessing another human being based solely on appearance. Jay --------------------------------------------------------------- | Jeremiah Coleman ICQ#-1705655 ranger@1stnet.com | | "We'll fight, not out of spite | | for someone must stand up for what's right" | | -- Jewel - "Hands" | --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:38:35 EDT From: PyroShwee@aol.com Subject: Re: Kids Of course not many teenagers know when Hitler's birthday is--most teenagers are not his followers, and most teens dont believe in the things he did like those 2 guys did... Do you think everyone knows when Jeffrey Dahmers birthday is? No... but the ones who want to copy cat him or be like him sure do... and Im not trying to push the blame on anyone other than those 2 guys... they were big boys, they could make their own decisions.. ashley pyroshwee@aol.com In a message dated 4/24/99 12:22:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mystery@MNSi.Net writes: << I don't know about you, but most teenagers I know don't have a clue when Hitler's birthday is... Besides, society and the media are all looking for someone to blame besides the kids themselves... no, the kids could never do anything wrong.. it's music's fault.. it's hitler's fault.. it's the full moon that did it.. and no, Hitler did not reverse the swastika... it was a symbol of good fortune (no matter what way it was "spinning") long before Hitler used it as his trademark... >> ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V4 #105 ***********************************