From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V4 #102 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, April 23 1999 Volume 04 : Number 102 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Kids [Ernie Cline ] RE: Our Souls ["PadmaT" ] Re: Our Souls ["Tiffany Berg" ] I'm Back..... [William Hopkins ] Re: Our Souls [Adam Fontana ] Levar on Jenny Jones ["LAFF.ORG" ] Re: Kids [Pryncess Twinkle ] Re: Kids [CrzyDimund@aol.com] Re: Kids [BoredPiXie@aol.com] NPR: Timing is everything [TVCCCoyote@aol.com] Re: Kids [R M M ] WHYYY!!! THE HORROR!!! [TVCCCoyote@aol.com] Re: Kids [UlfDahlen@aol.com] just another note... [R M M ] Re: Kids [KrodKnid@aol.com] Poe--Best of 1995-99 [Edie Sedgewick ] Re: Kids ["Allen Knowles" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:30:16 -0400 From: Ernie Cline Subject: Kids Hey all, Its funny, well, ok not really, but I can't think of a better word. Anyway, I used to wear a black trenchcoat (still do when its cold), and listen to what most consider 'evil' music (wonder if anyone thinks Poe is evil? Most people hate and fear that which they don't understand). I was also picked on a lot in high school, and maybe i entertained delusions of revenge, but never more for a few seconds, and then they would be quickly dismissed. I would much rather show the punks how much of a better person I was by ignoring their crap, and thinking how I'd be a better person (and more successful). Now I work at a very successful publishing company (for a hint, we publish the wall street journal, barrons, newsweek, etc.). What happened over in littleton, that those kids had to kill a bunch of people? No love from their parents? Living in too harsh of a world? My heart goes out to the families of those who lost children, or a brother, or sister, or mother, or father. However, I think a lot of kids will now think twice about picking on that 'loser' that goes to their school... what a horrible way to have to learn that lesson. ernie ------------------------------ Date: 22 Apr 1999 11:39:24 -0600 From: "PadmaT" Subject: RE: Our Souls Thanks, Jessica, from one Denver psycho. While I don't know anyone who was wounded or slaughtered, all those people are from the Denver metro community...my neighbors. It's weird, because one moment I'm working and thinking about work and the next moment my eyes are welling up. The past three days have all been like that...and every newspaper article, every news story on tv, every kid you see walking down the street...it just all gets driven home time and time again. And the fuckin' NRA is to have its national convention here next week (May 1, I think). I hope to hell that 10s of thousands of protesters show up to boo them out of town. Padma _______________________________________________________________________________ From: Jessica Gilwee on Wed, Apr 21, 1999 8:58 PM Subject: Our Souls To: angry-psychos@smoe.org I don't know about you guys, but my soul is sad, and bruised by what happened in Colorado. I want to send my love and faith to all who are affected. In this time of mourning, I believe we are the closest. I hope that we all unite and help the angry-psychos which have been hurt. jessica _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. 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Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:53:01 PDT From: "Tiffany Berg" Subject: Re: Our Souls Angry-psychos were in that tragedy?? >From: "Jessica Gilwee" >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Our Souls >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:49:48 GMT > > >I don't know about you guys, but my soul is sad, and bruised by what >happened in Colorado. I want to send my love and faith to all who are >affected. > >In this time of mourning, I believe we are the closest. I hope that >we all unite and help the angry-psychos which have been hurt. > >jessica > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:15:01 -0700 (PDT) From: William Hopkins Subject: I'm Back..... Hello everyone, After much time off of the list and 100% no posting. I am back I now live in SoCal. About 35-40 minutes from Hollywood. I have just one question for all my old ap friends, how the heck have you all been? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:04:07 -0400 From: Adam Fontana Subject: Re: Our Souls Why would they protest the NRA? You think if they didn't have guns they would not have killed?Explosives are easier to obtain and produce. You can not blame the weapon for violence, an object can not be good or evil by itself, only a human can display these traits. I am truly sick of people placing blame for these events on tools, only a person is capable of destruction. Instead of gun laws why not once again try to teach morals and the value of life instead? Even without a gun people will die, the only way to improve this situation is to change the people. I'm sorry if anyone out there has lost someone, this is not a safe world. Believe me when I say that I know... Adam > Thanks, Jessica, from one Denver psycho. While I don't know anyone who was > wounded or slaughtered, all those people are from the Denver metro > community...my neighbors. It's weird, because one moment I'm working and > thinking about work and the next moment my eyes are welling up. The past three > days have all been like that...and every newspaper article, every news story > on tv, every kid you see walking down the street...it just all gets driven > home time and time again. And the fuckin' NRA is to have its national > convention here next week (May 1, I think). I hope to hell that 10s of > thousands of protesters show up to boo them out of town. > > Padma > _______________________________________________________________________________ > From: Jessica Gilwee on Wed, Apr 21, 1999 8:58 PM > Subject: Our Souls > To: angry-psychos@smoe.org > > I don't know about you guys, but my soul is sad, and bruised by what > happened in Colorado. I want to send my love and faith to all who are > affected. > > In this time of mourning, I believe we are the closest. I hope that > we all unite and help the angry-psychos which have been hurt. > > jessica > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:57:52 -0400 From: "LAFF.ORG" Subject: Levar on Jenny Jones Great news: Levar will be going to Chicago next Wednesday to tape the Jenny Jones show. It will air on the "day of compassion" which we think is June 25th. Details of what they will talk about in still un-clear yet (how much POE will they talk about?). We will keep you updated. If anyone lives around the Chicago area and plans on trying to get tickets let us know. I'm not sure what we can do, but we can try. Thanks, - -LAFF.ORG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:09:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Pryncess Twinkle Subject: Re: Kids >> However, I think a lot of kids will now think twice about picking on that 'loser' that goes to their school... what a horrible way to have to learn that lesson.<< not likely. i'm one of the kids that gets shit on quite a bit and i can honestly tell you that the assholes that pull this don't have the fucking brains to realize why this happened and they just go and pick on people even fucking more. at least the ones at my school don't. i can tell you that i've harbored a lot of similar thoughts but i never actually did it. i have friends who are pretty similar to the 'trenchcoat mafia' but they have a lil more sense.......though we have much sympathy for what happened to the kids, people need to learn, to quote jeremy, "they fuck with us and they're not prepared when we fuck back". i swear.......i may be 'evil' or whatever but i'm not sad. i really am not. it sucks a hell of a lot i know that it happened and yes it sucks when people die but when you've been in that situation all yr fuckin life it's hard to really sympathise. ok, i'm prolly gunna get a million and two pissed off reactions to this and i don't care. you have to look at things from all sides. ~noelle _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:22:05 EDT From: CrzyDimund@aol.com Subject: Re: Kids I totally totally hate what the media is doing right now. Now instead of people looking at my friends and I as the people who dress "different" or who are unpopular, they will see every one of us as "those evil sadistic blood thirsty sick twisted murdering lunatics" who are "one step from the edge," and to me that's a crock of shit. I would like to thank the media for drilling this into the minds of the general population. How much do you guys want to bet that the people who were friends with the gunmen will be beaten up and tortured at school, even though they probably had nothing to do with what happened. I am also very angry that this crime has gotten so much attention. Explain to me why the school killings in Arkansas and Oregon and the others did not get such coverage as this crime only because of a "low death count." To me, one crime of this magnitude ought to be enough for our country to wake up a realize just how fucked up the real world is. So now they want to take away guns, maybe even get guards and metal detectors in schools. Not to be morbid, but if I wanted to kill someone, I sure as hell would find another way. Sorry to babble! I know most of you (and me) are sick of hearing about this, but I actually am interested in what you guys are saying. I'm sorry for sounding cold or un-compassionate. I really send sympathy to anyone affected by this tragedy. But I send the most sympathy for the children we will be having someday, because certainly things will only get worse in years to come. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:48:14 EDT From: BoredPiXie@aol.com Subject: Re: Kids The people who did this terrible thing had been picked on and all, but they were racists. I know everyone is entitled to their opinions, but someone wearing a swastika or saying racial slurs would get me pissed off, too. If they had been picked on or whatever, there are other ways of handling the problems. Ways that are legal and let you live to see the other people suffer...within reason. I was watching the news, and of course they brought up the type of music the two kids listened to. Why do they always have to do this? As if listening to one type of music makes you want to go out and kill. You've got to be really stupid to let yourself be influenced that greatly by musicians. They also said that the kids came from good homes, making it sound like they should have grown up to be perfect citizens. Where you grow up doesn't have much to do with anything mentally. If you grow up with abusive parents, that doesn't mean you'll grow up to abuse your kids. Ignore any typos and my bad english...in fact, ignore this whole post.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:26:56 EDT From: TVCCCoyote@aol.com Subject: NPR: Timing is everything Anyone else feeling a little trigger happy out there? Today (4-22) I heard that 2 girls were suspended from a Texas JR High for having a "hit list". Common misunderstood girls, who coincidently dress in black. They should have known better to have something like that with a school tragedy happening just a few days ago. Then you have the ignorant copy cat pranks that disrupt school for a day (which may have been the key purpose) but no real threat. Just some small things to make true Psychos just a little more Angry. Ian, out. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:41:42 -0500 From: R M M Subject: Re: Kids I have been watching this on the news and watching all the news specials since this happened, and I was very saddened by this event. I mean, I just dont understand why we have to treat people so badly to the point where they cant handle it at times. However I also think that these guys were old enough to be able to solve their problems in other ways. And, in agreement with a previous post, racism totally pisses me off. Something should have been done to stop their actions, but not making fun of them. And about the music and movie theory where the media blames it on everyone else: IMHO, the average American adult is not ready (even after these numerous events) to accept that there is a violence problem among teenagers. They will stop at nothing to find someone else to blame, and famous people are just too easily accessed to be blamed Just my two cents... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <3 Rina "So what would an angel say The devil wants to know..." - -- Fiona Apple's "Criminal" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:38:52 EDT From: TVCCCoyote@aol.com Subject: WHYYY!!! THE HORROR!!! This message is Poe related, not to disreguard the Littleton (can we call it a massecer), but I just came by some info that scares me even more! ONE OF THE TELETUBBIES IS CALLED POE!!!!! GOD HELP US ALL!!! Concequently: isn't that the one that cries "Faggot!" when you squeeze it? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:45:14 EDT From: UlfDahlen@aol.com Subject: Re: Kids I feel horrible for the families that this tragedy affected. I agree with CrzyDimund about what the media has done. They have decided that anyone that dresses/acts/feels differently than the majority is evil, and because of this, the majority is getting a very wrong idea. My mother was listening to a radio show today in which the hosts were speaking of how the boys were rumored to be part of the "gothic movement, lead by marilyn manson." A listener called in, told the hosts off, explained what/who "goths" were, and explained that contrary to popular belief, manson is not "goth". She was a rather intelligent caller, I may add, and I congradulate her for setting a couple people straight. The point of telling about that is my idea that if the media weren't so one-sided, a great deal of americans may not be so blinded and closed-minded as they appearently are now. Now, for what I really wanted to write about. The precautions some schools, including mine, have decided to take are rediculous! There were police officers lining the hallways yesterday and today, making anyone wearing the colour black or any type of trench coat or long coat go to the dean's office, where they were forced to call parents to bring them clothes of a different colour. I won't even enclude my personal experiences, however, i will write of one of the more ridiculous incidents in the past two days yesterday. The victim, one of my best friends. He was stopped by a police officer and escorted to the dean's office. He was wearing a black vinyl and velvet jacket, a band T-shirt, a metal ball-chain necklace, a chain belt, leather boots. All of these were banned from school. The belt and necklace because they could be used as weapons, and everything else could be found offensive. Bullshit. They're trying to take away the originallity of many of my friends, as well as mine. They want to make us a part of the "abercrombie mafia." Of course, we're the ones who are going to go blow up the school, right? So we can't wear out jackets anymore. Forget the boots, the chains. No jewelry, of course not, what were we thinking? Let's all rapidly conform to to the rules, let's all become sheep. That's exactly what's needed to make this place a better world, right? Ruin all forms of creativity. Go ahead, I dare you. Just wait to see what everything's like in the next 20 years if this continues on at the rate it's been going the past 3 years. I was in a store yesterday with the person that this happened to. One of the attendants at the store looked at us and said "You guys must have gone through hell today." Just a note, our dress was rather common for the store/area we were in. The guy brought up a good point. The people like my friend and I are not the ones that are going to go blow up the school. It's the "normal", quiet, seemingly conformists that snap, more often than not. It's not the outspoken people that don't really care what people think about them, two of which we are. Sometimes, it's the people that you least expected from.... the people who are not being interrogated and persecuted. It's time to stop punishing us, and to start looking over them. Is this realistic? No. Will it happen? No. Why? We're horrible people, remember? We're not good, like all of them. To quote CrzyDimund, we're evil, sadistic, blood-thirsty, sick, twisted, murdering lunatics. We don't deserve to think for our selves. Of course not. I appologise for the length of that letter. If you read it all, thank you. Alexa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:47:00 -0500 From: R M M Subject: just another note... Marilyn Manson is coming to Cedar Rapids, Iowa this weekend, and some lady is trying to get the concert canceled-- she has started a petition, and she and many others called where the concert is being held. She said that although she doesnt blame manson for the actual shooting, she believes he and other musicians provoke children (through their lyrics) and "stir them up" to do things they only with they could do.... - --R "So what would an angel say The devil wants to know..." - -- Fiona Apple's "Criminal" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:47:58 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Kids In a message dated 4/22/99 7:26:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CrzyDimund@aol.com writes: << So now they want to take away guns, maybe even get guards and metal detectors in schools. Not to be morbid, but if I wanted to kill someone, I sure as hell would find another way. >> No s**t..........if you mix common houshold ammonia with chlorine bleach you get chlorine gas,which is so lethal and horrific it was banned after seeing much use in WW1(it,along with mustard gas, is the reason gas masks were invented).A few housewives croak by accdident from this stuff every year...........mopping the floor with straight ammonia and decide they need a little bleach to bring the colors out:-)A couple good whiffs and the insides of their lungs are toast.Gaaaacccckkkkk!!!! Also,propane bombs are real easy to make and detonate. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:54:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Edie Sedgewick Subject: Poe--Best of 1995-99 Hey psychos... So I was sorting through my 5 CDs and 5 tapes of Poe music (yes I'm obsessive but not as obsessive as Shelly), and getting sick of having to deal with all that and how some good music never got listened to becuz it was on the wrong tape, etc. So I made myself a Best Of Poe mix. It was hard slogging as I had to pick out the best performances from all the zillions of live shows, but in the end, I have a fine tape indeed. Here's the tracklist. [side one] Hello (live) Choking the Cherry (album) That Day (live) Another World (album) THJ (Psycho Demolition Mix) Control (live) Hello (E-Smoov Funk Mix) Padre Fear How Long [side two] Junkie (album) Dolphin (live) Rise & Shine (acoustic version from that web page) Hello (German Dance Mix Radio Edit) Fingertips (live) Trigger Happy Jack (live) Angry Johnny (No K Version) A Rose is A Rose (album) Lose Yr Mind Fly Away (live--piano & cello version) In between I put a bunch of clips of Poe & the band talking, you know, my favorite bits from interviews and things ("Wanna do some vocal warm-ups on the air?" "Sure 1-2-3 BWAAAAAAUAUUGHUGHUAHGH!!!!!"). So if you were going to make one, what might you use? (This whole post is just a desperate attempt to give us something to talk about, but I think it's worth it.) Twalen Fleety MonkeyMan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:12:59 -0400 From: "Allen Knowles" Subject: Re: Kids Hi everyone, I'm an evil, sadistic, blood-thirsty, sick, twisted, murdering lunatic. I listen to heavy metal, wear all black and during winter, I wear my black trenchcoat everyday. I would wear it all year, but the summers in Georgia kinda prevent it. I play role playing games religiously and am a huge quake and doom fan. I play wargames every week and enjoy it. I watch exceedingly violent Japanese animation and love it. In fact, I even listen to evil "nazi propaganda" like KMFDM and Rammstein. I've even seen Natural Born Killers five times! Hide your children. Lock your doors. Send them to a private school. The media says I'm going to go on a blood thirsty killing spree with an assault rifle. It doesn't matter I don't own any guns. It doesn't matter that I abhor real violence, especially violence with guns. I'm not an individual, I am part of the mold. And because of that mold, I'm going to kill you. I am going to kill your children and your teachers and blow up your school. Just because I fit the mold. - --Allen,who just -loves-the media. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When you kill a man, you are a murderer. When you kill hundreds, you are a conqueror. But when you kill them all, you are GOD." --Jean Rostand aknowles@mindspring.com ICQ #13412336 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V4 #102 ***********************************