From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V4 #85 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, April 1 1999 Volume 04 : Number 085 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: hiv notice (fwd) ["Mike Auer" ] Re: More new Poe ["Mike Auer" ] Re: hiv notice (fwd) [Rebecca Lynn Clark ] Re: More new Poe ["Everything Breaks" ] Re: More new Poe ["Mike Auer" ] Fwd: hiv notice (fwd) [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re:hiv thing [Cameronstn@aol.com] Re: More new Poe [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: More new Poe [VR5SBloom@aol.com] Re: hiv notice (fwd) [LivTheMdns@aol.com] HIV Follow-up ["PadmaT" ] HIV: the facts ["PadmaT" ] RE: Re:hiv thing ["PadmaT" ] Re: hiv notice (fwd) [KrodKnid@aol.com] A Sobering Reflection on War... ["PadmaT" ] Finally! Angry-Psycho Video!! [Ed ] AP Video [Ed ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 01:34:11 -0600 From: "Mike Auer" Subject: Re: hiv notice (fwd) THis is most definitely a hoax. And Are you sure about that twelve hour thing, Proudwolf? I was told the virus cannot survive outside the body for more than a few minutes.....and this was by an HIV + Patient who's had the virus for 15 years.....Anyway, maybe I misinterpreted what he said....but that was the impression I got. This is the same as those hoaxes about people harvesting organs. Just people trying to scare you. mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 01:41:53 -0600 From: "Mike Auer" Subject: Re: More new Poe ...I don't know if anyone else has noticed....but POE Doesn't seem to be on the track listing for this Soundtrack anymore 01. I Want You To Want Me - Letters To Cleo 02. FNT - Semisonic 03. I Know - Save Ferris 04. Your Winter - Sister Hazel 05. Even Angels Fall - Jessica Riddle 06. New World - Leroy 07. Saturday Night - Ta-Gana 08. Atomic Dog - George Clinton 09. Dazz - Brick 10. Weakness In Me, The - Joan Armatrading 11. War - The Cardigans 12. Wings Of A Dove - Madness 13. Cruel To Be Kind - Letters To Cleo 14. One More Thing - Richard Gibbs I just realized....the song she was supposed to be singing is now listed under a Joan lady? What happened w/ that !? mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:27:54 -0500 (EST) From: Rebecca Lynn Clark Subject: Re: hiv notice (fwd) mike, the AIDS virus can remain active for a period of time outside of the human body if it has a hospitable environment (aka fluid, best if there are still some cells to attack). i'm not sure as to the time frame, but my sister is a 3rd year med school student, I'll ask her, she will know. Rebecca Clark ACRN 99.3 caFM, Traffic Director Office: (740) 593-4909 Poetry page: http://www.pathetic.org/member-works.cgi?siteid=876026929 - -"Perfect Love is the most beautiful of all frustrations because it is more than one can express" -Charlie Chaplin - -"Down in their hearts, wise men know this truth: the only way to help yourself is to help others" -Elbert Hubbard help give to RAINN: http://www.eyegive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=103&mid=7856 IT COSTS YOU NOTHING BUT A FEW SECONDS OF TIME! On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Mike Auer wrote: > > THis is most definitely a hoax. And Are you sure about that twelve hour > thing, Proudwolf? I was told the virus cannot survive outside the body for > more than a few minutes.....and this was by an HIV + Patient who's had the > virus for 15 years.....Anyway, maybe I misinterpreted what he said....but > that was the impression I got. This is the same as those hoaxes about > people harvesting organs. Just people trying to scare you. > > mike > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:19:48 GMT From: "Everything Breaks" Subject: Re: More new Poe A Joan lady? Was Poe supposed to sing "The Weakness In Me"? Sorry, I'm slow.. Anyway, if she was, it would have been a cover.. Weakness is Joan's song.. scott evans scott@jewelkilcher.com let me fly! a jewel kilcher tribute http://listen.to/jewelfly - -- maybe i could've loved you better maybe you should've loved me more maybe our hearts were just next in line maybe.. everything breaks sometime.. Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:32:41 -0600 From: "Mike Auer" Subject: Re: More new Poe I guess so, scott. That was what people were saying last week....Anybody heard anything? I noticed that in the commercial for the movie they talk about the soundtrack and have a list of singers and poe is not mentioned. So I checked when I got home and sure enough she wasn't there anymore. Anyway, tell me if you hear anything. :) Thanx mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: Everything Breaks To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 6:19 AM Subject: Re: More new Poe > > A Joan lady? Was Poe supposed to sing "The Weakness In Me"? Sorry, I'm > slow.. Anyway, if she was, it would have been a cover.. Weakness is > Joan's song.. > > scott evans scott@jewelkilcher.com > let me fly! a jewel kilcher tribute > http://listen.to/jewelfly > -- > maybe i could've loved you better > maybe you should've loved me more > maybe our hearts were just next in line > maybe.. everything breaks sometime.. > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:05:56 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Fwd: hiv notice (fwd) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_922903557_boundary Content-ID: <0_922903557@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 3/31/99 1:03:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, Krod Knid writes: << << THis is most definitely a hoax. And Are you sure about that twelve hour thing, Proudwolf? I was told the virus cannot survive outside the body for more than a few minutes.....and this was by an HIV + Patient who's had the virus for 15 years.....Anyway, maybe I misinterpreted what he said....but that was the impression I got. This is the same as those hoaxes about people harvesting organs. Just people trying to scare you. >> AIDs viruses can't live outside the environment of the host for more than a couple of minutes.If they could,there would be a much greater epidemic going on.However,the virus has been found in the tears of the severely afflicted!!This would certainly give me pause when expected to kiss an AIDs patient on the cheek when they are on the death bed,as many "experts" have suggested is safe.Also,despite reports to the contrary,I am somewhat concerned about the possibility that it can be spread by mosquitoes or,even more possibly,fleas...................I mean,hypodermic needles do the trick don't they? >> - --part0_922903557_boundary Content-ID: <0_922903557@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: KrodKnid@aol.com Return-path: To: s1031365@admiral.umsl.edu Subject: Re: hiv notice (fwd) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:03:54 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/31/99 4:19:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, s1031365@admiral.umsl.edu writes: << THis is most definitely a hoax. And Are you sure about that twelve hour thing, Proudwolf? I was told the virus cannot survive outside the body for more than a few minutes.....and this was by an HIV + Patient who's had the virus for 15 years.....Anyway, maybe I misinterpreted what he said....but that was the impression I got. This is the same as those hoaxes about people harvesting organs. Just people trying to scare you. >> AIDs viruses can't live outside the environment of the host for more than a couple of minutes.If they could,there would be a much greater epidemic going on.However,the virus has been found in the tears of the severely afflicted!!This would certainly give me pause when expected to kiss an AIDs patient on the cheek when they are on the death bed,as many "experts" have suggested is safe.Also,despite reports to the contrary,I am somewhat concerned about the possibility that it can be spread by mosquitoes or,even more possibly,fleas...................I mean,hypodermic needles do the trick don't they? - --part0_922903557_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:18:07 EST From: Cameronstn@aol.com Subject: Re:hiv thing ok. . ..i dont know about the whole dallas incident or the validity of the emails. . . but i do know this. . . in providence rhode island, i don't remember when, but a similar situation happened. a girl was in a club, dancing, she got poked by a needle, and it said the same thing. . .you have been infected with hiv. . . it could b just a sick joke, or it could be true. . . all i know is the news and media people went crazy about it. . . you never know what can happen to you!!! it's good to be safe, but there's no way in hell you can prevent everything bad from happening. . . how was the girl dancing, just having a good time supposed to know some crazy muther f@#king ass was going to do that? or are we supposed to check for needles when we sit down or get our change from vending machines all the time? its sad, to say the least, that this world is making us have these extra precautions, but at the same time, don't be so gullible (no offense) to believing emails and the like. . . true, these situations are very possible, and maybe true. . .but to scare ourselves silly over it isn't worth it. . . just be cautious. . . sorry to be so preachy, but i care too much sometimes. i wish i could be te protector of the world sometimes. . . thanks for listening to my two cents. again. love, cristina (cameronstn@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:25:33 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: More new Poe In a message dated 3/31/99 7:58:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, jewellover333@hotmail.com writes: << A Joan lady? Was Poe supposed to sing "The Weakness In Me"? Sorry, I'm slow.. Anyway, if she was, it would have been a cover.. Weakness is Joan's song.. >> Maybe some nitwit listed the song and songwriter instead of song/singer?:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:14:17 EST From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Re: More new Poe In a message dated 03/31/1999 2:43:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, s1031365@admiral.umsl.edu writes: > ...I don't know if anyone else has noticed....but POE Doesn't seem to be on > the track listing for this Soundtrack anymore > I just realized....the song she was supposed to be singing is now listed > under a Joan lady? > What happened w/ that !? Ack! I e-mailed someone auctioning it and they confirmed that Poe is not on the soundtrack. I guess that was what was on CDNow's advance tracklisting and it listed Poe for whatever reason. Oh well. ::( Now I hafta cancel my preorder and stuff... - --Michele ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:19:59 EST From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: hiv notice (fwd) In a message dated 3/31/99 4:07:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, s1031365@admiral.umsl.edu writes: > THis is most definitely a hoax. And Are you sure about that twelve hour > thing, Proudwolf? I was told the virus cannot survive outside the body for > more than a few minutes.....and this was by an HIV + Patient who's had the > virus for 15 years.....Anyway, maybe I misinterpreted what he said....but > that was the impression I got. This is the same as those hoaxes about > people harvesting organs. Just people trying to scare you. > > mike > Yea, it breaks down in the light or in the air. It's a very weak virus outside of the body. Hepatitis B, onthe other hand, lasts for over 2 weeks outside and is way easier to transmit. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 1999 11:32:36 -0700 From: "PadmaT" Subject: HIV Follow-up It might also be a wise reminder that HIV/AIDS is not a gay-specific disease. While the gay population has taken the worst hit in the USA and Europe, HIV/AIDS has primarily struck heterosexual populations in Africa and southeast Asia, largely due to the prevalence of prostitution. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 1999 11:30:10 -0700 From: "PadmaT" Subject: HIV: the facts I have worked in HIV prevention education since the 1980s. HIV must enter the bloodstream *directly*, as exposure to oxygen kills it (in this regard it's a wimpy virus). That's why sharing needles and having unprotected anal sex are so dangerous (anal sex causes tearing of the tissue in the rectum [unlike the vagina, the rectum is not self-lubricating], allowing HIV to introduce itself directly into a person's blood). Unprotected vaginal intercourse can also result in HIV infection, if there is tearing, even microscopic, in the vaginal wall. Unprotected anal intercourse is *more* dangerous than unprotected vaginal intercourse, but don't delude yourself into thinking that vaginal intercourse is without risk. Padma _______________________________________________________________________________ From: KrodKnid@aol.com on Wed, Mar 31, 1999 11:21 AM Subject: Fwd: hiv notice (fwd) To: angry-psychos@smoe.org In a message dated 3/31/99 1:03:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, Krod Knid writes: << << THis is most definitely a hoax. And Are you sure about that twelve hour thing, Proudwolf? I was told the virus cannot survive outside the body for more than a few minutes.....and this was by an HIV + Patient who's had the virus for 15 years.....Anyway, maybe I misinterpreted what he said....but that was the impression I got. This is the same as those hoaxes about people harvesting organs. Just people trying to scare you. >> AIDs viruses can't live outside the environment of the host for more than a couple of minutes.If they could,there would be a much greater epidemic going on.However,the virus has been found in the tears of the severely afflicted!!This would certainly give me pause when expected to kiss an AIDs patient on the cheek when they are on the death bed,as many "experts" have suggested is safe.Also,despite reports to the contrary,I am somewhat concerned about the possibility that it can be spread by mosquitoes or,even more possibly,fleas...................I mean,hypodermic needles do the trick don't they? >> ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** - ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_922903557_boundary Content-ID: <0_922903557@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> - --part0_922903557_boundary Content-ID: <0_922903557@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: KrodKnid@aol.com Return-path: To: s1031365@admiral.umsl.edu Subject: Re: hiv notice (fwd) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:03:54 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/31/99 4:19:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, s1031365@admiral.umsl.edu writes: << THis is most definitely a hoax. And Are you sure about that twelve hour thing, Proudwolf? I was told the virus cannot survive outside the body for more than a few minutes.....and this was by an HIV + Patient who's had the virus for 15 years.....Anyway, maybe I misinterpreted what he said....but that was the impression I got. This is the same as those hoaxes about people harvesting organs. Just people trying to scare you. >> AIDs viruses can't live outside the environment of the host for more than a couple of minutes.If they could,there would be a much greater epidemic going on.However,the virus has been found in the tears of the severely afflicted!!This would certainly give me pause when expected to kiss an AIDs patient on the cheek when they are on the death bed,as many "experts" have suggested is safe.Also,despite reports to the contrary,I am somewhat concerned about the possibility that it can be spread by mosquitoes or,even more possibly,fleas...................I mean,hypodermic needles do the trick don't they? - --part0_922903557_boundary-- - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.rmc.org with ADMIN;31 Mar 1999 11:19:01 -0700 Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA24107; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id NAA02439; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:07:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id NAA02420 for angry-psychos-outgoing; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id NAA02416 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:06:59 -0500 (EST) From: KrodKnid@aol.com Received: from KrodKnid@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id pPQKa16881 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:05:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:05:56 EST To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: hiv notice (fwd) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_922903557_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 238 Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 1999 11:46:26 -0700 From: "PadmaT" Subject: RE: Re:hiv thing Dear Christina, HIV can and does spread through infected needles. Of course, unless we cloister ourselves utterly, there's no guarantee that we won't someday step on one, get attacked with one, sit on one, or get jabbed while dancing. We can't live in abject fear, however, and have to believe that the odds are against those events occurring. Of course, it's never a bad idea to watch your step when you're walking, or to look before you sit! Padma _______________________________________________________________________________ From: Cameronstn@aol.com on Wed, Mar 31, 1999 11:38 AM Subject: Re:hiv thing To: angry-psychos@smoe.org ok. . ..i dont know about the whole dallas incident or the validity of the emails. . . but i do know this. . . in providence rhode island, i don't remember when, but a similar situation happened. a girl was in a club, dancing, she got poked by a needle, and it said the same thing. . .you have been infected with hiv. . . it could b just a sick joke, or it could be true. . . all i know is the news and media people went crazy about it. . . you never know what can happen to you!!! it's good to be safe, but there's no way in hell you can prevent everything bad from happening. . . how was the girl dancing, just having a good time supposed to know some crazy muther f@#king ass was going to do that? or are we supposed to check for needles when we sit down or get our change from vending machines all the time? its sad, to say the least, that this world is making us have these extra precautions, but at the same time, don't be so gullible (no offense) to believing emails and the like. . . true, these situations are very possible, and maybe true. . .but to scare ourselves silly over it isn't worth it. . . just be cautious. . . sorry to be so preachy, but i care too much sometimes. i wish i could be te protector of the world sometimes. . . thanks for listening to my two cents. again. love, cristina (cameronstn@aol.com) - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.rmc.org with ADMIN;31 Mar 1999 11:33:35 -0700 Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA02339; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id NAA02625; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:22:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id NAA02614 for angry-psychos-outgoing; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id NAA02610 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:21:16 -0500 (EST) From: Cameronstn@aol.com Received: from Cameronstn@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id pZOBa05099 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:18:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <730cfea4.370266df@aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:18:07 EST To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re:hiv thing Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:57:40 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hiv notice (fwd) In a message dated 3/31/99 4:25:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, rc889@oak.cats.ohiou.edu writes: << And I'm not just saying that cuz she's my sister, cuz i love her, but i don't like her...we have never gotten along...she hates me cuz i'm skinny and blonde, i hate her cuz she's a fucking genius.... >> Ah,the family life:-) ------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 1999 16:19:14 -0700 From: "PadmaT" Subject: A Sobering Reflection on War... ...from William Butler Yeats: "The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 00:58:43 -0500 From: Ed Subject: Finally! Angry-Psycho Video!! Attention all old-school APs... especially those that were in Richmond back on April 19th, 1997. If you guys remember, I was one of the people with a video camera (who was the other? Kristina? is she still around?). Well I pulled out the dusty old tape that I happened to bring up to school with me because I'm going to go visit becky this weekend and thought I'd refresh the old memories of the trip.. :) I finally sat down and did something I've been meaning to do.. I encoded it onto the computer. Yes, that means even you can watch the Angry-Psychos backstage at Richmond!! Jarrod: if you're listening, you're a large part of this video, with your Jarrod segment and all. :) Well, I'm going to encode more, including the DC concert, or at least bits and pieces. But for now, the APs backstage with Poe in Richmond is available at the following address: http://divinity.relic.net/apsinrichmond.avi Yes, it's in AVI format, it's about 30megs in size... I also made a RealAudio version for a smaller file (it's not as good quality, but its not as big). I doubt it will stream off my site, so you may just have to download it. It's a whopping 4 megs... hehe http://divinity.relic.net/apsinrichmond.rm notice the rm vs avi.. should I make an mpg version as well? stay tuned for more exclusive video!! AP Love... Ed ed@poe.org http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 01:00:24 -0500 From: Ed Subject: AP Video PS, anyone want to make me up a page for the Angry-Psycho video stuff, explaining what's going on and all? I'll host it, I just would rather have some new creativity for it rather than my bland webpage design.. :) Ed ed@poe.orgy http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V4 #85 **********************************