From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V4 #40 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, February 11 1999 Volume 04 : Number 040 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: not anything related: classical music [Edie Sedgewick ] Re: not anything related: classical music [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: not anything related: classical music [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: not anything related: classical music [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: not anything related: classical music [Justin Kim ] Re: POE NEWS: new album in progress! ["Sad Alcoholic Clown" ] Re: not anything related: classical music ["Kelly Lesperance" ] Re: not anything related: classical music [Alexandra Horwood ] Re: classical music [John Beadle ] Re: classical music [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: POE NEWS: new album in progress! [John Beadle ] Re: not anything related: classical music [John Beadle Subject: Re: not anything related: classical music > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:54:03 PST > From: "Sad Alcoholic Clown" > Subject: not anything related: classical music > > i recently got mp3s of mozart's requiem and wagner's siege of camylarde, > and realized that i really dig this stuff. does anybody have other > recommendations to this thusfar undiscovered country of music? > > - -Sad Alcoholic Clown I took a class on The Symphony last semester for just this reason: exploring the unknown. (In fact, I still have a couple papers I have to do for it...) I just thought I'd recommend some highlights from the class listening. (These are just a couple which I can remember off the top of my head.) Haydn's Symphony #45 is called the "Farewell" symphony becuz the orchaestra, one by one, gets up and leaves. It's also really pretty. Another Haydn favorite (he had the best sense of humor in music) is the 60th symphony where the music suddenly stops for the players to retune their instruments, and then starts back right where it left off. Berlioz's Symphony Fantastique is well known, dark, and crazy. I think that one is the one with the "col legno" part, which is a really cool-sounding effect where the string players play with the wood rather than the string of their bows. There was a fellow called Anthony Philip Heinrich, known as the Beethoven of Kentucky, who wrote stuff like "The Migration of American Wild Passenger Pigeons"...but it's not that wonderful. Liszt's Faust symphony, on the other hand, I like alot. Bruckner's first five symphonies, as my teacher said, sound like "symphonies from Mars", and number 3 is really nice. One of Tchaikovsky's, maybe the fourth, has a really awesome movement which is pizzicato all the way through. Mahler's first has this nutty funeral march to the tune of Frere Jacques. Maybe my favorite symphony of all, on a certain level, is Strauss's Alpine Symphony, which is so amazingly programmatic, it's like a film score without the film. Wow, I remembered more than I thought I would. Well, anyway, I hope someone checks out some of this stuff and enjoys it too. Twalen Fleety MonkeyMan "GANN" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:49:44 -0500 From: Rusty M Shelby Subject: POE NEWS: new album in progress! i spoke to my atlantic rep today... i jokingly said... "hey, next time you see poe, light a fire under her but... i really want to see her again". he said, "how about JUNE". i freaked. the album is on the production schedule for june. so, let's keep our ears and eyes open and our fingers crossed. a summer tour would be too nice. - -rusty ******************************************************************************************* "I don't sleep with my politics, I choose not to hate. 'Cause I don't wear my heart where my knees separate. It's crotch propaganda, bat for both teams, and it's me not choosing sides standing in between." - - Soul Miner's Daughter "On The Shoulders Of Giants" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:55:53 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: not anything related: classical music In a message dated 2/9/99 10:59:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, mettic@hotmail.com writes: << i recently got mp3s of mozart's requiem and wagner's siege of camylarde, and realized that i really dig this stuff. does anybody have other recommendations to this thusfar undiscovered country of music? >> Well,do you mean heavy choral music or classical music in general.For the former you might try Orff's "Carmina Burana".Rockers who discover classical seem to love this thing for some reason.........maybe because it is something like aetherial heavy-metal with voices............maybe just because it sounds so damned daemonic. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:07:56 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: not anything related: classical music In a message dated 2/10/99 12:21:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, rc889@oak.cats.ohiou.edu writes: << the most beautiful classical piece i have ever heard is Chopin's Nocturne in E Minor, Op. 72, No. 1 for some people it may be familiar as the song Val Kilmer plays on the piano in "Tombstone" (ya know, "Francis fucking Chopin") It is truly one of the most expressive pieces of art I have ever heard. It is fairly melancholy...it reminds me of reminiscing about lost loves, friends, etc. >> A lot of Chopin's music is like that.Most of his Nocturnes and Etudes are kind os melancholy...............well,he was dying of consumption.Robert Schumann's piano music and some of Liszt's smaller pieces too.My all time fave for this sort of mood is Beethoven's "Pathetique" sonata.The "Moonlight" and "Apassionata" ones are cool too.Debussy's piano stuff is very dreamy also...........stuff like "Claire de Lune" and "Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun"(piano version).Eric Satie,the Velvet Gentleman, can't be overlooked for his simple little sweetnesses either. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:11:24 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: not anything related: classical music In a message dated 2/10/99 2:17:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, taxine@yahoo.com writes: << Berlioz's Symphony Fantastique is well known, dark, and crazy. I think that one is the one with the "col legno" part, which is a really cool-sounding effect where the string players play with the wood rather than the string of their bows. >> It is fairly well known that this work is the result of an excursion into "Opiumland" taken by the composer:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:52:51 -0500 From: Justin Kim Subject: Re: not anything related: classical music Not undiscovered to all of us - I don't want to have to give back my opera tickets ;-). For choral/vocal music, I'd recommend: Mozart - Le Nozze Di Figaro. Light and fun as operas go. Several of the melodies are instantly recognizable. Moteverdi - Madrigals of Love and War. Short and easily appreciated. Very beautiful. I'd recommend the Philips two-CD set conducted by Raymond Leppard. Orff - Carmina Burana. IMHO this work influenced many modern movie themes, most notably the soundtrack to Conan. Lotsa folks just getting into classical like this one. Verdi - La Traviata. Just saw this at the NYC Metropolitan Opera last month. Wonderful music, simply wonderful. Good story with sympathetic characters. For instrumental music: Mahler - Symphony No. 1. Another great influence on modern movie music. Very fun. Mozart - Horn Concertos. Bach - I've never met a Bach I didn't like. I don't have many titles with me here at work. If there's interest, I'll post some recommendations tomorrow. Justin - -------- Justin Kim jlkim@netcom.com "You might not be interested in war, but war's interested in you." -Leon Trotsky ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:30:59 PST From: "Sad Alcoholic Clown" Subject: Re: POE NEWS: new album in progress! hmm...perhaps in time for my birthday... that pOe, watta gal! >the album is on the production schedule for june. so, let's keep our >ears and eyes open and our fingers crossed. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:42:38 -0600 From: HMJ Subject: Re: POE NEWS: new album in progress! Our even better. Mine. > >hmm...perhaps in time for my birthday... >that pOe, watta gal! > >>the album is on the production schedule for june. so, let's keep our >>ears and eyes open and our fingers crossed. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > Groonk is taking a rest. In the meantime, enjoy a wonderful quote. ============================================================================ ===================================== "I just broke up with someone and the last thing she said to me was, 'You'll never find anyone like me again!' I'm thinking, 'I should hope not! If I don't want you, why would I want someone like you?' " --Larry Miller ============================================================================ ===================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:55:24 -0500 From: "Kelly Lesperance" Subject: Re: not anything related: classical music >In a message dated 2/9/99 10:59:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, >mettic@hotmail.com writes: > ><< i recently got mp3s of mozart's requiem and wagner's siege of camylarde, > and realized that i really dig this stuff. does anybody have other > recommendations to this thusfar undiscovered country of music? hmm.. anyone know of any sites on the web where we might be able to find classical music (Mp3s or even MIDI files).... that might help expose and culturalize us some :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:35:07 PST From: "Sad Alcoholic Clown" Subject: mp3 on my page i've removed the hello mp3 and replaced it w/ live how long. if u missed out, tuff nuts. i might in the long run put it back on, or u mite ask someone to send it to u. - -Sad Alcoholic Clown Visit my site at http://members.tripod.com/~Mettic/front.html If you like elitist opinions and lots of arbitrary lists, this is the place! "The Great Man is colder, harder, less hesitating, and without fear of 'opinion'; he lacks the virtues that accompany respect and 'respectability,' and altogether everything that is the 'virtue of the herd.' If he cannot lead, he goes alone. He knows that he is incommunicable: he finds it tasteless to be familiar. There is a solitude within him that is inaccessible to praise or blame." - Nietzsche, "Will to Power" "In dreaming, the clouds methought would open and show me riches ready to drop upon me, that, when i waked, i cried to dream again." - Caliban, "The Tempest" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:36:29 +1100 From: Alexandra Horwood Subject: Re: not anything related: classical music ><< i recently got mp3s of mozart's requiem and wagner's siege of camylarde, > and realized that i really dig this stuff. does anybody have other > recommendations to this thusfar undiscovered country of music? > >> >Well,do you mean heavy choral music or classical music in general.For the >former you might try Orff's "Carmina Burana".Rockers who discover classical >seem to love this thing for some reason.........maybe because it is something >like aetherial heavy-metal with voices............maybe just because it sounds >so damned daemonic. > "A Night on Bald Mountain" by Moussorgsky (sp?) is my favourite classical piece, also pretty heavy on the atmosphere... however it doesn't have any vocals. Beethovan's Choral Symphony is pretty cool :D (the 9th, you'd probably recognise parts of it from numerous tv commercials) If you are interested in getting into classical, a good place to start would be the soundtrack to "Fantasia," this has a wide range of styles and composers, see what you like and go from there :D (and it has night on bald mountain) I don't know where you live, but here in Sydney (Aus) every bargain store has classical compilation cds for $5 which are all pretty good. Classical in general is a lot cheaper because its so old and not really in demand, I guess... My favourite composers are Gershwin, Beethoven and Shostakovich... although I pretty much like anything except Bach. So go for it, and let us know what you end up liking :D ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ . . a l e xh o r w o o d student @ unsw:sydney:australia . science [computer science/psychology] "Begin at the beginning," the King said gravely, "and go on until . you reach the end: then stop." . - Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:49:26 EST From: VolcanoFem@aol.com Subject: classical music Right now my orchestra is playing Heartwounds (translation from the German) by Edvard Grieg, and it is one of the most beautiful pieces we have ever attempted. We will not do it justice, but perhaps your ears will appreciate it. I also like Bach's unaccompanied cello suites, Vivaldi's Four Seasons (Fall all the way), and ^ Brandenburg Concerto..... those are just a few of my faves. ~*Anna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:24:13 PST From: "Sad Alcoholic Clown" Subject: my mp3... apparently, yall just want me and my website for my mp3. [jarrod, if it isn't too inconvenient for u, perhaps u can just download the mp3s one by one] after all, not a single person has signed my guestbook. if such a thign continues, i may have to remove all traces of these songs ;) - -Sad Alcoholic Clown Visit my site at http://members.tripod.com/~Mettic/front.html If you like elitist opinions and lots of arbitrary lists, this is the place! "The Great Man is colder, harder, less hesitating, and without fear of 'opinion'; he lacks the virtues that accompany respect and 'respectability,' and altogether everything that is the 'virtue of the herd.' If he cannot lead, he goes alone. He knows that he is incommunicable: he finds it tasteless to be familiar. There is a solitude within him that is inaccessible to praise or blame." - Nietzsche, "Will to Power" "In dreaming, the clouds methought would open and show me riches ready to drop upon me, that, when i waked, i cried to dream again." - Caliban, "The Tempest" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:41:08 -0600 From: John Beadle Subject: Re: classical music In my music Comp. class I'm going to write a song where the violins and cellos pulse the same note or phrase over and over again, while the basses get the main part with a viola accompaniment. Maybe I'll have to slip some Cello solo's in there, as much as I hate to do it they do have a great sound. - -Landon VolcanoFem@aol.com wrote: > Right now my orchestra is playing Heartwounds (translation from the German) by > Edvard Grieg, and it is one of the most beautiful pieces we have ever > attempted. We will not do it justice, but perhaps your ears will appreciate > it. > I also like Bach's unaccompanied cello suites, Vivaldi's Four Seasons (Fall > all the way), and ^ Brandenburg Concerto..... those are just a few of my > faves. > ~*Anna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:26:43 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: classical music In a message dated 2/10/99 10:11:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, VolcanoFem@aol.com writes: << Right now my orchestra is playing Heartwounds (translation from the German) by Edvard Grieg, and it is one of the most beautiful pieces we have ever attempted. We will not do it justice, but perhaps your ears will appreciate it. I also like Bach's unaccompanied cello suites, Vivaldi's Four Seasons (Fall all the way), and ^ Brandenburg Concerto..... those are just a few of my faves. ~*Anna >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For a good dose of classical/pop/rock hybrid try the amazing cello trio,Rasputina.Also check out Apocalyptica,a cello quartet from Helsinki,Finland who do instrumental covers of Metallica(among other things).Also Cameron Stone's efforts with groups other than Poe.I hear he is doing some instrumental stuff with guitarists from LA in addition to Donna DeLory and Bliss. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:42:01 -0600 From: John Beadle Subject: Re: POE NEWS: new album in progress! As long as it's before my birthday (june 29th), that'd be a cool present. And for those who care.... If you send me a gift then I must hunt you down and eat you. Thought I was gonna encoruage you, didn't ya? - -Lanon Rusty M Shelby wrote: > i spoke to my atlantic rep today... > > i jokingly said... "hey, next time you see poe, light a fire under her > but... i really want to see her again". he said, "how about JUNE". i > freaked. > > the album is on the production schedule for june. so, let's keep our > ears and eyes open and our fingers crossed. > > a summer tour would be too nice. > > -rusty > > ******************************************************************************************* > "I don't sleep with my politics, I choose not to hate. 'Cause I don't > wear my heart where my knees separate. It's crotch propaganda, bat for > both teams, > and it's me not choosing sides standing in between." > - Soul Miner's Daughter "On The Shoulders Of Giants" > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:41:38 -0600 From: John Beadle Subject: Re: not anything related: classical music Get the "4 Violin Concerto in E minor" by Vivaldi, I played the solo parts in one of our last concerts. (I play bass) It really ticked the cello guy off to have the solo's he *always* gets stolen by the bass, that was pretty cool. All of the seniors who found out I was auditioning for the cello solo's said it'd be awesome cuz it would "Really piss Matt off." - -Landon Sad Alcoholic Clown wrote: > i recently got mp3s of mozart's requiem and wagner's siege of camylarde, > and realized that i really dig this stuff. does anybody have other > recommendations to this thusfar undiscovered country of music? > > -Sad Alcoholic Clown > Visit my site at http://members.tripod.com/~Mettic/front.html > If you like elitist opinions and lots of arbitrary lists, this is the > place! > "The Great Man is colder, harder, less hesitating, and without fear of > 'opinion'; he lacks the virtues that accompany respect and > 'respectability,' and altogether everything that is the 'virtue of the > herd.' If he cannot lead, he goes alone. He knows that he is > incommunicable: he finds it tasteless to be familiar. There is a > solitude within him that is inaccessible to praise or blame." - > Nietzsche, "Will to Power" > "In dreaming, the clouds methought would open and show me riches ready > to drop upon me, that, when i waked, i cried to dream again." - Caliban, > "The Tempest" > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V4 #40 **********************************