From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V3 #330 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, November 16 1998 Volume 03 : Number 330 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Welcome To Woop Woop is out [VR5SBloom@aol.com] Never mind [VR5SBloom@aol.com] RE: Welcome To Woop Woop is out [Lawrence Kim ] Article with Poe mentioned [Ed Hunsinger ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:54:38 EST From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Welcome To Woop Woop is out WAKE UP PSYCHOS! ::P According to the IMDB, Welcome To Woop Woop finally came out on Friday. Check if it's playing near you at http://www.movielink.com/ and **please** post if Poe's cover of "I Cain't Say No" is actually in the movie. - --Michele ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:07:25 EST From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Never mind http://www.mgm.com/woopwoop/ Welcome To Woop Woop will be opening in the following markets: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Toronto on November 13!!!! I guess most of us will just have to wait then. Movielink says: "The radio station and movie theater can only play Rogers and Hammerstein musicals." So that's when Poe's cover should be in the movie. - --Michele, meantime plotting to rent a Playstation ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:13:22 -0600 From: Lawrence Kim Subject: RE: Welcome To Woop Woop is out The reviews are in, and they aren't good: Entertainment Weekly - D+ (I think) Mr. Showbiz - 35 (out of 100) They recommend you go read "Priscilla: Queen of the Desert" (which is a fine movie). No mention on what songs are played in the soundtrack. More FYI, Lawrence ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 01:25:05 -0500 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: Article with Poe mentioned Hey, found this article while researching for a recent paper (http://divinity.relic.net/currentpaper.htm) found it kinda interesting.. *shrug* Ed ed@poe.org http://divinity.relic.net Copyright 1997 Billboard Publications, Inc. Billboard DECEMBER 06, 1997 SECTION: THE EYE LENGTH: 860 words HEADLINE: Women's Portrayal In Vids Debated At Billboard Confab BYLINE: CARLA HAY BODY: SEXIST VIDEOS? The portrayal of women as sex objects in music videos sparked heated debate at many panel discussions during the 19th annual Billboard Music Video Conference, held Nov. 20-22 at the Beverly Hilton in Beverly Hills, Calif. During the Nov. 22 "The Kids Speak" panel, which featured a focus group of 12 teenagers from diverse backgrounds, most of the teens complained about a double standard in music video. As one observed, "The men don't have to be good-looking, but women always have to be thin and look beautiful, like supermodels." Others talked about how women in music videos often wear revealing clothes, while men don't seem to be held to the same fashion standards. The debate over female images in music video continued during the directors' panel held the same day. Nigel Dick of Squeak Pictures said, "During the '80s, I've certainly been guilty of doing those kind of [sexist] videos, but most of the time, it's the artist who demands that those kind of videos be made." At the artists' panel, singer Carnie Wilson said, "Let's face it: Sex sells. I didn't get into this business to make videos, but I know it comes with the package." While many audience members and panelists called for artists and directors to take more responsibility for how they portray women in music videos, other conference attendees disagreed, saying that music videos are about escapism and that parents, not music video-makers, have the main responsibility in influencing kids. THIS & THAT: Other issues addressed during the conference included the rising cost of producing videos at a time when record companies are beginning to cut back on video promotion and production budgets. Modern rock artist Poe, who spoke at the Nov. 22 artists' panel, said her videos cost $ 40,000-$ 60,000--far below the six-figure range expected from many artists. "I think when you have less money, it forces you to be more creative," she said. During the directors' panel, Liz Friedlander of D.N.A. commented, "I feel more responsible for a project if it's a great artist and song, as opposed to what kind of budget I've been given." On how video treatments should be handled, director Kevin Kerslake of Silvey/Co. said, "If people come to you with ideas, people should respect the copyright boundaries. If it's your treatment, you should be compensated." During the "Regional Programming" panel, where reps from videos shows faced off with reps from record companies, the consensus was that if a show wants more cooperation from labels, it has the responsibility to send more reports and air checks to the label. As panel moderator Kevin Ferd of Newark, N.J.-based "Power Play" said, "Don't wait for the labels to come to you. You have to go to them." The community/partnership theme was ever-present at the "Video Production And Programming" panel. When asked what it takes to get a video on a national network, panelist Lewis Largent, VP of music and artists at MTV, said: "It comes down to having a great song." As for making videos, Largent added that artists shouldn't be afraid to take chances and "do something different" that will stand out from the pack. WHAT THE KIDS WANT: If the teenage focus group was any indication, MTV's popularity seems to be waning among its target demographic. Most of the panelists named VH1 or BET as their favorite music video channel instead of MTV. One teenager summed up the reason why: "MTV doesn't show that much music anymore." Nearly all the teenage panelists said that they bought an artist's album after they saw a video, and videos from a movie soundtrack were identified as particularly influential in choosing what music to purchase. The panelists also cited bright colors and fashion as two of the main factors that capture their interest when watching music videos. When asked what they would like to see more of in music videos, the majority of the teens called for better story lines, more eye-catching choreography, and having more "real people" in videos. One panelist concluded, "I'm sick of seeing men [in videos] who think they're pimps." A NEW IMAGE: During the conference, a new music video coalition known as International Media & Advertising Group in Entertainment (I.M.A.G.E.) was announced during the "Urban Issues" panel. I.M.A.G.E, which is headed by president Michael E. Kelly of the Phoenix video shows "The Breeze" and "L.I.V.E.," is aimed at promoting and providing a voice for independently produced music video programs. I.M.A.G.E. has several member programs, including New York's "Dare TV," Los Angeles' "Video 28," Philadelphia's "Urban X-Pressions," San Francisco's "California Music Channel," St. Louis' "Hot Expressions," and Asia's "Splash Tee Vee." I.M.A.G.E. hopes to offer group marketing and advertising rates for its program members. Membership is free and nonexclusive. For more information on I.M.A.G.E., contact Chuck Williams, VP of sales and marketing, at 850-894-3662 or visit the group's World Wide Web site at www.positive progression.com. Assistance in preparing this column was provided by Carrie Bell and Eileen Fitzpatrick in Los Angeles. LANGUAGE: ENGLISH LOAD-DATE: December 2, 1997 Ed ed@poe.org hunsin_e@denison.edu ed@divinity.relic.net http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V3 #330 ***********************************