From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V3 #234 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, August 18 1998 Volume 03 : Number 234 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) [Jiamin Tang ] Re: what drug? [PeaceLoveGrace@webtv.net (Adam Robinson)] POE and religion.... [Leahbraids@aol.com] POE and jezebel [Leahbraids@aol.com] Re: Fanatic or somthing like that ["TJ 13" ] Re: what drug? ["@ @ @ alec @ @ @" ] Re: what drug? ["@ @ @ alec @ @ @" ] Re: NPR: NC Psychos ["Kathryn Blair" ] Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) [PeachAcid@aol.com] npr: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) [Happy Fantom ] will the album ever come out? [Happy Fantom ] NPR: Jem and the Halograms [HoLeMdErAp@aol.com] NPR: Movies & Books [HoLeMdErAp@aol.com] Re: what drug? [danger17@juno.com (Rachel S. Waxman)] Re: what drug? [bomber ] Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) [Erin Kyles ] Re: me [Erin Kyles ] Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) [Erin Kyles ] Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) [Lyza Gardner ] Re: me [SYko117@aol.com] Re: what drug? ["Jun Raven" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:11:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jiamin Tang Subject: Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) Doesn't pagan mean you worship other gods than the one? On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Choklit Cow wrote: > > i am pagan, so i have minimal knowledge about Christianity. > i was never raised as anything > but this was my interpretation. > Jezebel was a famous harlot > *or slut, if you prefer* > and that name now is usually > used as another way of saying "whore" > -i think. > > this is my interpretation, > as an outsider of Christianity. > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________________________ "So focus first on God himself; be practical in deed. And as you tell you world of Christ, you'll find he'll meet your need!" -----Jill Briscoe "Joy is a net of love by which you can catch souls. . . .We can do no great things---only small things with great love." ----Mother Theresa "Have you found honey? Eat only as much as you need, Lest you be filled with it and vomit." ---Proverbs 25:16 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:19:04 -0700 (PDT) From: PeaceLoveGrace@webtv.net (Adam Robinson) Subject: Re: what drug? Who the hell is Jerry Garicia? I've heard of Jerry GarCIA before, and he, Mr. Dead, is dead. R.I.P., Jerry. PeaceLove&Grace, +m ~ : ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:20:33 EDT From: Leahbraids@aol.com Subject: POE and religion.... from the Q&A available at poe.org.... Q20: Are you an athiest like you father? If not, do you have some sort of religion? POE: My father wasn't really an athiest as much as he was an agnostic. He was raised Catholic and hated it but seemed that is some way in his entire life he was enslaved to it. An agnostic doesn't necessarily believe in God but doesn't attach themself to any organized religion. I think that he believed more in Star Wars than God. He loved that movie and he told me all of the time as a kid. "May the force be with you." He loved that line..... He used to say that there is a force out there and nobody knows what it is. It gives us consciousness. It gives us life. That makes us die. We don't know what it is but there is something going on out there. Infact. The night he died he looked into my eyes and said "Ya know POE. Find your bliss and live there." It was one of the most deeply spiritual things that anyone has ever said to me. Cause I thought... So many times we wear are personal tradgedies and depressions as badge of honor. And I think some of the most honorable folks in the world are the ones that can Infact. The night he died he looked into my eyes and said "Ya know POE. Find your bliss and live there." It was one of the most deeply spiritual things that anyone has ever said to me. Cause I thought... So many times we wear are personal tradgedies and depressions as a badge of honor. And I think some of the most honorable folks in the world are the ones that can find their bliss. Out of that only positive things can happen. Maybe that is cheesy but I think I believe that. Not that I necessarily know how to do it but it is blissful to sing. I know that. ***** As far as any type of religion that I follow.... ** My dad gave me a copy of "The Origin of the Species" and the Bible when I was eight years old and said "you figure it out." I think my religion would be more about asking that and searching. I think that anybody that tells you that THIS is the structure of the universe; has to be lying. The truth is... We don't know. We do know that we are alive and that is pretty strange and we know that we die and that is as mysterious as well and I think for me it is about. You know..... Just consciousness. Being conscious in the fact that, my God, I don't know why but I breath and eat and sleep and fart and sing and love and hate..... hopefully not too much hating. Um... Thats cool. AND whether it is pain or pleasure that I am experiencing... I am alive to experience it. And..... You know. I think that all organized religions are bullshit. ToTaL BULLSHIT. I think that everones sense of that mystery is unique as they are and you can't tell sombody else.... This is what is going to you when you die.... NOBODY KNOWS! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:55:45 EDT From: Leahbraids@aol.com Subject: POE and jezebel AHA!!!! i knew i had read POE explaining her thing with jezebel somewhere....and after sorting thru all the reading material at poe.org (while there are a million things i SHOULD be doing) i found it in the very last one....c/o backstage online and evan.... here ya go: EZ I noticed that Jezebel is in that song and it is also in one of your songs. Is there any relation? I mean, who is Jezebel? POE That was the first thing. My brother sung it and I said to him, because I knew that he did all these jazz songs, when they approached me about the Lounge-A-Palooza thing I said, well let me go relisten to every thing my brother has. So he had a tape of him singing to a finger snap of stuff that I'd heard and stuff that I hadn't. "A Rose Is A Rose" I had never heard. And the first line I heard was [singing] "Jezebel... from Israel... who never read a book." And I thought, "Wow, well history's starting here." I mean there's kind of a secret with me and my brother about Jezebel, but I mean Jezebel comes across a lot better in "A Rose Is A Rose" in some ways, but we kind of both had morphed this sort of myth around one of my dad's girlfriends. [Laughing...] EZ I know at one of your shows you said that Jezebel was a part of every woman and everyone was just looking around going, "What the hell is Jezebel?" POE What the hell is Jezebel? Well, she's this raving lunatic banshee, but she's very cool and very powerful. I mean, Jezebel is historical. Jezebel from Israel, you know it actually says that in "A Rose Is A Rose," and she's a fascinating character. Should she have worn a badge of shame or was she actually the coolest one around? And that's sort of the question that was interesting about everybody. You don't know if they're criminals or saints. But either way she's controversial. there's my POE-input for today....now to go insane....I NEED MORE TIME.....don't mind me... psycho hugs and love to all, leah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:03:04 PDT From: "TJ 13" Subject: Re: Fanatic or somthing like that > > >anyhoot, are there any AP's from PA?=20 > > >I like an hour away from PA i have to go to pittsburg for all of my concerts=( what part of pa are you from? TJ 13 - ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Halfpipe/1450/index.htm - --------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "@ @ @ alec @ @ @" Subject: Re: what drug? On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, TJ 13 wrote: > > It was left out because i'm not real sure, I know its difficult to get > any real hard drugs like heroin or crack, but i don't think pot will do > that to you. It may have been acid. Whatever it was for the next month > every his eyes were totally black looking because every blood vessel > exploded.that is one hell of a smart person. > > it wasn't pot, it wasn't acid. i don't think that cocaine would do that to you. now, exstacy, or heroin... i wouldn't know... i never did anything worse than acid. i'm thinking heroin... but don't quote me on that. honestly, i'm not really sure what kind of drug would cause someone's eyes to look black from the bloodvessels popping. i know pot causes you to have really bad cases of "red eyes" but i've never heard of someone's eyes turning black from too much pot. acid doesn't do anything to the eyes (at least where bloodvessels are concerned). and like i said, i haven't a clue about the others... alec |\-------------------------------------------/| |< www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/3171 >| |/-------------------------------------------\| /\ / //___ ---// / \/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:11:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "@ @ @ alec @ @ @" Subject: Re: what drug? On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 radiof@pipeline.com wrote: > > DRUGS KILL.......Just Ask Jerry Garicia... > > XXX > > > ps i am going away from aug 18 to sept 8 > > Jerry? hell! how about Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Jimmie Hendrix, and the whole slew of people before and after that time... alec |\-------------------------------------------/| |< www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/3171 >| |/-------------------------------------------\| /\ / //___ ---// / \/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:38:47 PDT From: "Kathryn Blair" Subject: Re: NPR: NC Psychos im still in clemmons ed. speakin of which, do we actually know how many of us are in nc? just wonderin... ~kathy >From owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org Sun Aug 16 21:24:21 1998 >Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] > by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) > id 0z8Gq5-00050v-00; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:24:13 -0400 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id AAA23094; > Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:23:03 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:22:57 - -0400 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id AAA23080 > for angry-psychos-outgoing; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:22:52 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (jeter.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.10]) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id AAA23075 > for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:22:48 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) > by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.6.0) with ESMTP id AAA20580; > Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:21:34 -0400 (EDT) >Received: (from eek4@localhost) > by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.6.0) id AAA17520; > Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:21:32 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:21:31 -0400 (EDT) >From: Erin Kelley >To: Ed Hunsinger >cc: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: NPR: NC Psychos >In-Reply-To: <199808162357.TAA26272@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> >Message-ID: >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org >X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" >X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. >Precedence: bulk > > >I'm in NC too. Durham, to be exact. Just felt like sharing. > > > (\/) > \/, > Erin > >^`'~*-.,_,.-*~'`^`'~*-.,_,.-*~'`^`'~*-.,_,.-*~'`^`'~*-.,_,.-*~'`^`'~*-.,_, > > "Like Harrison Ford, I'm getting frantic; > Like Sting, I'm tantric; > Like Snickers, guaranteed to satisfy." > > Barenaked Ladies, "One Week" > >^`'~*-.,_,.-*~'`^`'~*-.,_,.-*~'`^`'~*-.,_,.-*~'`^`'~*-.,_,.-*~'`^`'~*-.,_, > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:11:33 EDT From: PeachAcid@aol.com Subject: Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) Some kid wrote: Hmm....than the one? You mean, the one YOU worship, personally. I am amazed that you are ignorant enough to say something like that. Okay. I don't really know much about any religion; I will next year, ask me then(I'm taking this class), but I know that pagans worship a goddess(unless I am completely wrong). Whatever god someone worships, that god is the one to them. I can't believe you said that. Sorry if I sound mean or something. jodie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:13:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Happy Fantom Subject: npr: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) im not amazed. there has always been a "national God" that a large percentage of americans "believe" in to some extent. "One nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all". i think its silly that it has gone on this long, but hey, it's still there. this country was founded on christianity, and no matter what, a piece of that will always be there. its sad. has anyone heard chantal kreviazuk? she has one song where she sings "this is the way God made me". and another that goes "i cant belive god made you and me from the same hands". when i first heard this i was like "what the fuck?! is this a christian album or something??" im gonna stop now. lalala sorry if i offened anyone. lets just drop the religion thing. and the drug thing too for that matter. its silly. lets talk about....um....jelly beans. i like the starburst ones. i dont like spicy ones. toriniss, steve On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 PeachAcid@aol.com wrote: > > Some kid wrote: > > > > Hmm....than the one? You mean, the one YOU worship, personally. I am amazed > that you are ignorant enough to say something like that. Okay. I don't > really know much about any religion; I will next year, ask me then(I'm taking > this class), but I know that pagans worship a goddess(unless I am completely > wrong). Whatever god someone worships, that god is the one to them. I can't > believe you said that. > Sorry if I sound mean or something. > > jodie > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:21:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Happy Fantom Subject: will the album ever come out? ok poe. So. her new album keeps getting pushed and pushed and pushed. its been what...almost 3 years now since Hello... What if a second album doesnt come out? i mean, really, for a debut album, Hello didnt do that great. there was no really big Hit Single or Video...(so at least she wont be dubbed a "one hit wonder!) But that really doesnt mean anything. Rasputina's debut album couldnt have sold more than 10,000 copies...yet they had another album just come out (i was totally surprised by this...they dont have as big of a following as poe does) and i dont even think it entered the billboard 200. so who knows. i just thought this "what if" would stir some discussion. toriniss, steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:41:05 EDT From: HoLeMdErAp@aol.com Subject: NPR: Jem and the Halograms this topic is probably old because i haven't checked my mail in a week but I LOVED Jem and the Halograms I still have a couple of the tapes and a couple of the dolls. I have the red-head doll but I forgot what her name was because Jem was the one with the pink hair right? "oooo Jem Jem is truly outrageous, truly truly truly outrageous" does anyone else remember the theme song. And then ther was one song about Paris, but I forget the rest. sorry for the pointless post. Lynsey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:06:07 EDT From: HoLeMdErAp@aol.com Subject: NPR: Movies & Books Movies (I LOVE movies): Good Will Hunting, Jerry Maguire, The Princess Bride, Scream, The Usual Suspects, The Crow, The Birdcage, The Full Monty, PCU, all Kevin Smith movies, Ever After, The Negociator (even though I haven't seen it yet but with Kevin Spacey AND Samuel L. Jackson in it it has to be great)....i could go on forever Books: any Stephen King (especcially The Stand, It, and The Eyes of the Dragon), 1984 by George Orwell, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams, anything by Poe, Still Life with Woodpecker by Tom Robbins, i used to LOVE Christopher Pike books when i was in middle school, A Mid-Summer Nights Dream by Shakespeare, and because of childhood nostalgia Matilda by Rould Dahl (forgive me if i mispelled his name) Lynsey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:46:44 -0400 From: danger17@juno.com (Rachel S. Waxman) Subject: Re: what drug? hey! what about river phoenix? he was one of the greatest tradgedies because of drug use. also that guy from blues brothers, i forget his name momentarily. oh yeah - belushi. he was such a loss to the entertainment world. so don't only talk about jerry! rachel _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:57:44 -0400 From: bomber Subject: Re: what drug? hmmm, tragic??? sorry to sound so vicious, but they made the bed, now they are laying in it, 6 feet under. its not tragic to me, its deserved, its stupid, its pitiful, not tragic. poor chris farley!!! poor river phoenix!!! nah, screw em, they got what they deserved. Rachel S. Waxman wrote: > hey! what about river phoenix? he was one of the greatest tradgedies > because of drug use. also that guy from blues brothers, i forget his > name momentarily. oh yeah - belushi. he was such a loss to the > entertainment world. so don't only talk about jerry! > > rachel > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:53:37 -0400 From: Erin Kyles Subject: Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) I was sort of curious about this too. I mean . . . I knew vaguely that Jezebel was in the bible, somewhere, but I'm no christian: I don't know anything about this sort of stuff. So any clarification would be greatly appreciated. Erin Heaven * wrote: > In church today, we were talking about Jezebel and how she mislead so > many people by saying she was a prophet and she had the answers to many > questions. Her punishment was that she was over come with germs and who > ever slept with her got a STD (well, that is the modern version, the > bible talks about gonarea and syfilis --I can't spell those things, > sorry). > So, did Poe just hear the name Jezebel somewhere or, what? > I don't have a bible, but I know that the passages where Jezebel is > talked about are in Revelations 2:18-26. I am pretty sure. > Oh and by the way, I am not preaching to anyone. I just though it was > interesting to be hearing the same names in church and in the music I > listen to. > okay? okay. > > Please Please Please don't flame me. I am just asking a question. > > Jessica > }|{ > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:58:12 -0400 From: Erin Kyles Subject: Re: me That's cool, the NC people. I'm about 30 minutes from the NC/TN state line. Umm. My sort of boyfriend lives in Raleigh, too!! Erin Ed Hunsinger wrote: > At 02:13 PM 8/16/98 -0400, Joe Giglotto wrote: > > >I am new as well...Here goes... > >1. Joey G > >2. Love Poe, Loreena Mckinnett, Rem, Cure, Rent, etc. > >3. I am 26 and live in Charlotte NC. > >4. I am witty...just ask me :) > >5. I think Fly Away is one fo the most beautiful songs ever written!! > > > > Alright, another NC AP!! What's that now, five or six in NC? Kent's now > in Raleigh, Ashley's in Winston-Salem, I'm in Winston, but soon to be in > Ohio, Kathy's still in Winston as far as I know, and there may be one or > two others around the state... welcome to the list.. :) > > Ed > ed@poe.org > http://ed.dynip.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:07:37 -0400 From: Erin Kyles Subject: Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) I think Webster says pagan means having no religion (which basically means not being Christian, cuz what other religions are there? *sarcasm*), but it also means this . . . they call the Celts of Britain pagans, and they had a very definate religion. I think pagan is just a loose term that some people use to be a "bad" thing, as an insult or whatever. Jiamin Tang wrote: > Doesn't pagan mean you worship other gods than the one? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:11:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Lyza Gardner Subject: Re: Is Poe Religious? (jezebel) > >Some kid wrote: > > > >Hmm....than the one? You mean, the one YOU worship, personally. I am amazed >that you are ignorant enough to say something like that. Okay. I don't >really know much about any religion; I will next year, ask me then(I'm taking >this class), but I know that pagans worship a goddess(unless I am completely >wrong). Whatever god someone worships, that god is the one to them. I can't >believe you said that. >Sorry if I sound mean or something. > >jodie > The Random House Dictionary definition of "pagan": 1. a person who is not a Christian, Jew or Muslim. 2. an irreligious person. The connotation, especially in times of yore, of a pagan, is of a polytheistic mystic...generally, the word came about during the Medieval Period and before, when mass acceptance of Christianity was occurring on the European continent. Pagan describes not one religion but all those which fall outside of the Big Three...generally these religions are focused on mysticism, superstition, and worship of nature and/or multiple deities. It used to have a negative ring to it, much like "heathen", however, lately (in the last one hundred years or so), it has evolved linguistically to represent the practice of more "earthy" or "mystical" religions, such as witchcraft, voodoo, white magic, etc. and has adopted more of a romantic air. Though many pagan religions do center on a female entity (i.e. "goddess"), that is not a central part of the meaning of the term. I must assert here that I most certainly do not believe in god. Sorry :). Lyza ________________________________________ Lyza Gardner Kavi Corporation 1233 NW 12th Avenue, Ste. 212 Portland, OR 97209 503.243.7130 (phone) 503.243.7132 (fax) lyza@kavi.com ________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:19:27 EDT From: SYko117@aol.com Subject: Re: me does ne one live near the michigan indiana border? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:39:54 PDT From: "Jun Raven" Subject: Re: what drug? ecstacy >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT) >From: "@ @ @ alec @ @ @" >To: TJ 13 >cc: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: what drug? > > >On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, TJ 13 wrote: >> >> It was left out because i'm not real sure, I know its difficult to get >> any real hard drugs like heroin or crack, but i don't think pot will do >> that to you. It may have been acid. Whatever it was for the next month >> every his eyes were totally black looking because every blood vessel >> exploded.that is one hell of a smart person. >> >> > >it wasn't pot, it wasn't acid. i don't think that cocaine would do that >to you. now, exstacy, or heroin... i wouldn't know... i never did >anything worse than acid. i'm thinking heroin... but don't quote me on >that. honestly, i'm not really sure what kind of drug would cause >someone's eyes to look black from the bloodvessels popping. i know pot >causes you to have really bad cases of "red eyes" but i've never heard of >someone's eyes turning black from too much pot. acid doesn't do anything >to the eyes (at least where bloodvessels are concerned). and like i said, >i haven't a clue about the others... > alec > |\-------------------------------------------/| > |< www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/3171 >| > |/-------------------------------------------\| > /\ > / > //___ > ---// > / > \/ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V3 #234 ***********************************