From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V3 #104 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, April 13 1998 Volume 03 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: npr-movies [John Beadle ] re:my post about Heathers (npr) [your third grade teacher ] NPR- "Torn" ["Torn Spice" ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [DrScream2 ] NPR-Alana Davis/Ani [Goalygirl7 ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [Rebecca Lynn Clark ] new email address. danradloff is longer going to be working. ["danradlof] SPR: Montserrat School of art AP ["Casey Davis" <7Goddess7@worldnet.att] Introductions n' stuff ["Jeff Niccoli" ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [DrScream2 ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [Gaul Aiel ] Re: NPR-Alana Davis/Ani [Gaul Aiel ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [Dylan Marx ] Speaking of Alana Davis ["Evan E. Zelig" ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [DrScream2 ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [Rebecca Lynn Clark ] NPR "Torn" ["Torn Spice" ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [Gaul Aiel ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [Gaul Aiel ] Re: NPR "Torn" [Gaul Aiel ] Re: NPR- "Torn" [DrScream2 ] The New Guy [toxie@juno.com] Re: NPR- "Torn" [GalaxyGrab ] POE - TODAY enters HEAVY ROTATION ["Angry Psycho" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:21:43 -0500 From: John Beadle Subject: Re: npr-movies Starstrail wrote: > >Heathers (uch, bulemia is SO '85!) > > um, i've never seen (or heard of, even,) this movie, BUUUUUUT, i do not > appreciate that phrase (no flames, notice the npr)...i really don't appreciate > a disease that i've suffered many years through to be placed into some > category as if it were a phase...bulimia is very VERY similar to > alcoholism...i don't consider myself to not be bulimic anymore simply because > i don't uneat...i'm a RECOVERING bulimic, however, and i take it ONE DAY at a > time...just like an alcoholic does... > sorry for the rant, this is just NOT something to be brushed aside for me... > > returning back to the woodwork, > kestrel I just hadta have a reply to this. My first response was "get over it, it was just a bad joke" BUT then I saw what they were saying. My little sister, as a lot of people on this list know, has leukemia. If you don't know, that's a form a cancer that can be deadly, but luckily my sister has the best odds, and still is basically a normal 3 year old who will be hopefully cured by next march. Whenever I hear anything about cancer, and especially Leukemia, it stings. Last week on our school's Band Trip to New Orleans, we were watching MIB. Great movie I think, but a couple times Will Smith remarks about the "flashy-things" giving people cancer, and once leukemia specifically. Again, it stung a little and I had to tell myself it was just a bad joke. This is just supposed to prove, it doesn't matter who said it, how it was meant, or anything. It hurts. This isn't bashing whoever quoted the quoted, it's just in defense of Starstrail becuz I saw Becky say to not take things out of context and to not "jump" on people. No, I'm not trying to not mention the fact that she sympathized in the next paragraph. I'm just trying to point out, unless you have it happen to you, or to someone so close that you wish it was you, you can't know how much the littlest phrase can hurt. I keep quiet, because that's just how I deal with it. I myself if someone made a bad joke about Leukemia on here wouldn't respond, I'd just drop it. OKAY Now that one of the few messages I've sent since rejoining has turned into a book about a single statement, I'm going to bed! (BTW: This isn't directed at Becky, it's directed to anyone who says it was taken out of contrast and should be gotten over) See ya'z! - -Landon http://www.execpc.com/~jbeadle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 06:19:49 -0700 (PDT) From: your third grade teacher Subject: re:my post about Heathers (npr) Yes indeed, I had figured most people had seen this movie and I'm sorry, I figured wrong as usual. Rebecca is right, this is not meant to insult bulemics. My best friend is anorexic, eating disorders aren't something you can just choose to ignore and eat up, I realise this. The line was spoken by a heartless snob who, I believe, gets murdered. I don't remember which Heather said that. Anyway, the whole movie was pretty much a revenge on snobs who think they rule the school. I just wanted you to know this starstrail, i was not mocking bulemics, just quoting from a movie. Thanks. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 07:30:24 PDT From: "Queasy Spice" Subject: NPR:the Bulima Chronicles All this talk about bulima is making me,well,sick to my stomach! QS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 07:36:47 PDT From: "Torn Spice" Subject: NPR- "Torn" I see a lot of Natalie Imbruglia fans here.You might want to check out a band called Ednaswap.They did "Torn" several years ago.Its much louder and slower,and seems more desperate.The album is called Wacko Magneto. And I wish to thank the NI mailing list for introducing me to POE. Thanx... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 12:45:11 EDT From: DrScream2 Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" Hey! I am major fan of Ednaswap (there are may favorite band right now). The version you are talking about is not the best; on their self-titled debut album (out of print) Torn was faster and had more rock in it. Here is an article I wrote about Torn: Torn was originally written and performed by a band called Ednaswap. Ednaswap has re-recorded Torn 5 times (the 5th has yet to be released) to gain perfection. But in this case, the first is always the best. Here's what Anne Previn, lead singer/writer of Ednaswap had to say about Natalie Imbruglia covering Torn, "The reason we're not freaking out about this (and why no one else should be) is that we have many more where that came from and we know we'll still be around long after little Natalie from England's 15 minutes are up." What is the problem with Natalie covering Torn? Well, just as the band prepared to release Torn, Natalie Imbruglia released a "perky" cover version of Torn. Natalie's success could make Ednaswap look as if they are riding on her coattails if they release the song. But Natalie decided she will not release it as a single in the US, which may leave the door open for Ednaswap. Ednaswap will also receive royalties from all of Natalie's profits, since they wrote the song. That fact that Natalie's version has done so well and Ednaswap's has not, points to one of two things. Either Natalie's has created a better version, or Ednaswap's label has failed at successfully promoting theirs. You decide. - -- Check out my website - http://www.cantnot.org/ednaswap/ - and go to the discography, and you can purchase their first album with the first version of Torn. Also, they have a new album coming out this July, called Liquid Soul. - - Dustin Shelby ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:15:42 EDT From: Goalygirl7 Subject: NPR-Alana Davis/Ani Well I'm sure everyone knows about that song 32 Flavors by Alana Davis right? Well wasn't that first done by Ani Difranco? How did Alana get permission to do the song? Was it just some corprate in a suit, or was it Ani herself? I was just wondering if anyone knew about this?.......thanx : ) Always, Liz p.s Little Plastic Castle by Ani Difranco is a really cool c.d if you haven't gotten it yet you should seriously do it! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:06:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Rebecca Lynn Clark Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" just to poin out ednaswap's ingnorance...natale is not from england, she is from australia, she used to be a soap star there, hence the video for torn.... - -Becky =O) Poetry page: http://www.pathetic.org/member-works.cgi?siteid=876026929 Web site: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~acrn/djs/psycho.html On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, DrScream2 wrote: > > Hey! I am major fan of Ednaswap (there are may favorite band right now). > The version you are talking about is not the best; on their self-titled debut > album (out of print) Torn was faster and had more rock in it. > Here is an article I wrote about Torn: > > Torn was originally written and performed by a band called Ednaswap. Ednaswap > has re-recorded Torn 5 times (the 5th has yet to be released) to gain > perfection. But in this case, the first is always the best. > > Here's what Anne Previn, lead singer/writer of Ednaswap had to say about > Natalie Imbruglia covering Torn, "The reason we're not freaking out about this > (and why no one else should be) is that we have many more where that came from > and we know we'll still be around long after little Natalie from England's 15 > minutes are up." > > What is the problem with Natalie covering Torn? Well, just as the band > prepared to release Torn, Natalie Imbruglia released a "perky" cover version > of Torn. Natalie's success could make Ednaswap look as if they are riding on > her coattails if they release the song. But Natalie decided she will not > release it as a single in the US, which may leave the door open for Ednaswap. > Ednaswap will also receive royalties from all of Natalie's profits, since they > wrote the song. > > That fact that Natalie's version has done so well and Ednaswap's has not, > points to one of two things. Either Natalie's has created a better version, > or Ednaswap's label has failed at successfully promoting theirs. You decide. > > -- > > > Check out my website - http://www.cantnot.org/ednaswap/ - and go to the > discography, and you can purchase their first album with the first version of > Torn. Also, they have a new album coming out this July, called Liquid Soul. > > > - Dustin Shelby > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "danradloff" Subject: new email address. danradloff is longer going to be working. Hi all. Write this down or change it in your address book. I am = changing my email address from danradloff@pcisys.net to = redwing1@pcisys.net. They have told me at PCI that this change should = take effect in a couple of days, so if you ever want to write me a = letter in the future please send it to this new address because the old = one probably won't work anymore. Thanks. maybe this will prompt people who havn't wrote to me in a while = to write a letter. See ya. Dan. redwing1@pcisys.net (wings rule) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:28:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Casey Davis" <7Goddess7@worldnet.att.net> Subject: SPR: Montserrat School of art AP Does someone on the list go to Monserrat school of art? I went there = the other day on a college visit. Our tour guide showed us where the = student studios were. I saw a picture of Poe with someone . . . an AP? = And a few mag clipping of her too!? if this is anyone on the list, i = would really like to talk to you about the school. Respoind damn it! = J/K. lovies,=20 casey who hasn't written to the list in a billion trillion years ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:26:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeff Niccoli" Subject: Introductions n' stuff Hi all! Well, I have been on this list off and on for a few months =now. I haven't introduced my self because I thought I wasn't going to= have a computer at all there for a while (self control, It ended up not = going out of the window and getting fixed instead). My name is Jeff = Niccoli. I was Born in Kansas City Missouri, but only lived there until = I was 11. I have moved around a lot of my life until my parents settled = down in York Pennsylvania (For some reason when ever I tell someone that = they say 'Where LIVE is from', so yes, where LIVE is from). Then I = joined the Air Force and got stuck in Texas temporally, then RAF = Lakenheath, England (any APs in England?). I work on Avionics of the = F15-C, D, and E for Uncle Sam. I've been here for about 1 1/2 years. = I'm 21 years old. I first heard PoE only a few months ago when flipping = through a friends CD case. I was breath taken by her music, and went = nuts looking for the CD over here (Have yet to find it in England, I = ended up ordering it from Wal-Mart online). Uhh, the other bands I like = include Dave Matthews Band, Blues Traveler, Matchbox 20, Drill, Sublime, = NIN, Texas, Natalie Imbruglia, Prodigy, Third Eye Blind, 2 Unlimited . . = . (the list goes on forever). As for that 'other interesting stuff'. I =love Taco Bell, and there are no Taco Bells in all of the UK. I'm not a = happy person. And I'll talk forever if you let me. I know earlier that people were talking about maybe starting a CD = tree. I don't know what the out come of that was, but I have access to = a CDR and would like to be in on that if it ever gets started. Only = thing is I don't have the means of converting the tape to a wav to be = recorded to the CD (I have no longer own a tape player), so I'd have to = be further down the tree. I have a web page, but be warned, it's not a = PoE page. It's a Dave page, and it's mostly avi downloads, and to make = it worse it is very much so under construction. Located at = http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/lane/xsa06 If you decide to hit it = let me know what you think. Things I should add/change/delete. I only = have 20 MB to work with, but those avi files take up some serious space. = I'm on ICQ 1755509 and I have AIM: MacGyvers. Also, I have heard things about the meaning behind THJ (like why it = was written). Any one know? Just curious! Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:42:32 EDT From: DrScream2 Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" When she was referring to England, that is where her CD was first released, and I doubt she knew or cared where she was from. - - Dustin In a message dated 4/12/98 2:06:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rc889@oak.cats.ohiou.edu writes: > Subj: Re: NPR- "Torn" > Date: 4/12/98 2:06:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: rc889@oak.cats.ohiou.edu (Rebecca Lynn Clark) > To: DrScream2@aol.com (DrScream2) > CC: tiwin@hotmail.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org > > just to poin out ednaswap's ingnorance...natale is not from england, she > is from australia, she used to be a soap star there, hence the video for > torn.... > > -Becky > =O) > Poetry page: http://www.pathetic.org/member-works.cgi?siteid=876026929 > Web site: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~acrn/djs/psycho.html > > On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, DrScream2 wrote: > > > > > Hey! I am major fan of Ednaswap (there are may favorite band right now). > > > The version you are talking about is not the best; on their self-titled > debut > > album (out of print) Torn was faster and had more rock in it. > > Here is an article I wrote about Torn: > > > > Torn was originally written and performed by a band called Ednaswap. > Ednaswap > > has re-recorded Torn 5 times (the 5th has yet to be released) to gain > > perfection. But in this case, the first is always the best. > > > > Here's what Anne Previn, lead singer/writer of Ednaswap had to say about > > Natalie Imbruglia covering Torn, "The reason we're not freaking out about > this > > (and why no one else should be) is that we have many more where that came > from > > and we know we'll still be around long after little Natalie from England's > 15 > > minutes are up." > > > > What is the problem with Natalie covering Torn? Well, just as the band > > prepared to release Torn, Natalie Imbruglia released a "perky" cover > version > > of Torn. Natalie's success could make Ednaswap look as if they are riding > on > > her coattails if they release the song. But Natalie decided she will not > > release it as a single in the US, which may leave the door open for > Ednaswap. > > Ednaswap will also receive royalties from all of Natalie's profits, since > they > > wrote the song. > > > > That fact that Natalie's version has done so well and Ednaswap's has not, > > points to one of two things. Either Natalie's has created a better > version, > > or Ednaswap's label has failed at successfully promoting theirs. You > decide. > > > > -- > > > > > > Check out my website - http://www.cantnot.org/ednaswap/ - and go to the > > discography, and you can purchase their first album with the first version > of > > Torn. Also, they have a new album coming out this July, called Liquid > Soul. > > > > > > - Dustin Shelby > > > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from relay19.mx.aol.com (relay19.mail.aol.com [172.31.106.65]) by > air17.mail.aol.com (v41.14) with SMTP; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:06:12 -0400 > Received: from oak.cats.ohiou.edu (oak.cats.ohiou.edu [132.235.8.44]) > by relay19.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > with ESMTP id OAA21437 for ; > Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:06:11 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from localhost (rc889@localhost) > by oak.cats.ohiou.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16082; > Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:06:10 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:06:10 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rebecca Lynn Clark > To: DrScream2 > cc: tiwin@hotmail.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" > In-Reply-To: > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:48:23 EDT From: Gaul Aiel Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" In a message dated 98-04-12 13:11:41 EDT, DrScream2@aol.com writes: << Here's what Anne Previn, lead singer/writer of Ednaswap had to say about Natalie Imbruglia covering Torn, "The reason we're not freaking out about this (and why no one else should be) is that we have many more where that came from and we know we'll still be around long after little Natalie from England's 15 minutes are up." >> How sad and bitter. I think this comment is pathetic, and I really have no respect for Ednaswap as a result. What a joke. If they have more where that came from, then where is it? As long as they're getting paid for it (which they obviously are) they should not be whining and crying about it. Had they made a decent version of the song, they too might be selling more records than they are. Natalie I took a song that hadn't really broke yet, and shaped it into a hit record. Regardless of whether anyone thinks that's 'selling out' or not, the fact is that she turned the song into something a lot of people could appreciate. Anne obviously needs to grow up. That is how the music business goes, like it or not. And, no, I'm not necessarily a Natalie I fan. Gaul Aiel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:51:11 EDT From: Gaul Aiel Subject: Re: NPR-Alana Davis/Ani In a message dated 98-04-12 13:22:03 EDT, Goalygirl7@aol.com writes: << Well I'm sure everyone knows about that song 32 Flavors by Alana Davis right? Well wasn't that first done by Ani Difranco? How did Alana get permission to do the song? Was it just some corprate in a suit, or was it Ani herself? I was just wondering if anyone knew about this?.......thanx : ) >> She doesn't have to 'get permission' as long as she pays her publishing royalties. Which she did. Covers are a matter of fact in the music industry. You have to 'get permission', however, when you sample someone's work... ala Puff Daddy. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for a lawsuit. Gaul Aiel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 16:25:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Dylan Marx Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" > How sad and bitter. I think this comment is pathetic, and I really have no > respect for Ednaswap as a result. What a joke. If they have more where that > came from, then where is it? As long as they're getting paid for it (which > they obviously are) they should not be whining and crying about it. Had they > made a decent version of the song, they too might be selling more records than > they are. That is what is wrong with the whole industry today, no one cares enough about anything but money to do anything of their own. Money isn't site when it all boils down. If N. I. had done it on a tribute album or whatever, than that would be fine (personally, I had never heard of Endaswap). Apparently they care enough about their music to wnat to reach perfection with their song, rather than just throwing out the first version of a song that was made. Not to sound bitter ... Natalie I took a song that hadn't really broke yet, and shaped it > into a hit record. Regardless of whether anyone thinks that's 'selling out' or > not, the fact is that she turned the song into something a lot of people could > appreciate. Anne obviously needs to grow up. That is how the music business > goes, like it or not. And, no, I'm not necessarily a Natalie I fan. If someone took something of mine and made it into a "hit" ____ I don't think I could face hearing something that I had written with pain and emotion on a top forty station. Covers are a part of the music business, but that doesn't mean that it isn't common courtesy to ask someone before covering a song. not to be a bitch, but think before you speak...Peace, I'm outta here... Sincerely, Mark http://mason.gmu.edu/~mcathell ______________________________________________________________________________ "I've been feeling so old. Tell me now, who do you think I am?" ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:58:34 -0700 From: "Evan E. Zelig" Subject: Speaking of Alana Davis Speaking of Alana Daivs... yup, you guess it... a FREE CD! Visit http://www.concertdirect.com and enter to win the NEW CD for FREE! - -- Evan E. Zelig - -- ezelig@earthlink.net ** Please visit Concert Direct at http://www.concertdirect.com ** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:07:50 EDT From: DrScream2 Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" In a message dated 4/12/98 3:48:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Gaul Aiel writes: > Subj: Re: NPR- "Torn" > Date: 4/12/98 3:48:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: Gaul Aiel > To: DrScream2, tiwin@hotmail.com > To: angry-psychos@smoe.org > > In a message dated 98-04-12 13:11:41 EDT, DrScream2@aol.com writes: > > << Here's what Anne Previn, lead singer/writer of Ednaswap had to say about > Natalie Imbruglia covering Torn, "The reason we're not freaking out about > this > (and why no one else should be) is that we have many more where that came > from > and we know we'll still be around long after little Natalie from England's > 15 > minutes are up." >> > > How sad and bitter. I think this comment is pathetic, and I really have no > respect for Ednaswap as a result. What a joke. If they have more where that > came from, then where is it? As long as they're getting paid for it (which > they obviously are) they should not be whining and crying about it. Had they > made a decent version of the song, they too might be selling more records > than they are. Natalie I took a song that hadn't really broke yet, and shaped > it into a hit record. Regardless of whether anyone thinks that's 'selling out' > or not, the fact is that she turned the song into something a lot of people > could appreciate. Anne obviously needs to grow up. That is how the music > business goes, like it or not. And, no, I'm not necessarily a Natalie I fan. > > Gaul Aiel Your saying its sad and bitter that they sad that about Natalie, then you end up saying something mean about Ednaswap? And you can't saying anything unless you have heard the first version, on their first album. I mean I like Natalie's version of Torn, but its not what made me like her. Big Mistake and Smoke is what made me attracted to her music. And its cool to cover someone else's song at concert. Its one thing to put a cover on your album, and its another to release it as a single! Anyway, you would be giving the same response if someone said something like that about POE. - - Dustin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:54:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Rebecca Lynn Clark Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" frankly if anyone turned any of my songs into a ht, i'd be happy, i'd be thrilled, even if i wasn't the one who sang it, or whatever, i would have still wrote it and as long as they are giving me credit for writting it, then hey! I'd be thrilled. Whitney Houston did the same thing with Dolly Parton's song "I Will Always Love You", and Dolly was thrilled. - -Becky =O) Poetry page: http://www.pathetic.org/member-works.cgi?siteid=876026929 Web site: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~acrn/djs/psycho.html On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Dylan Marx wrote: > > > How sad and bitter. I think this comment is pathetic, and I really have no > > respect for Ednaswap as a result. What a joke. If they have more where that > > came from, then where is it? As long as they're getting paid for it (which > > they obviously are) they should not be whining and crying about it. Had they > > made a decent version of the song, they too might be selling more records than > > they are. > > That is what is wrong with the whole industry today, no one cares enough > about anything but money to do anything of their own. Money isn't site > when it all boils down. If N. I. had done it on a tribute album or > whatever, than that would be fine (personally, I had never heard of > Endaswap). Apparently they care enough about their music to wnat to reach > perfection with their song, rather than just throwing out the first > version of a song that was made. Not to sound bitter ... > > Natalie I took a song that hadn't really broke yet, and shaped it > > into a hit record. Regardless of whether anyone thinks that's 'selling out' or > > not, the fact is that she turned the song into something a lot of people could > > appreciate. Anne obviously needs to grow up. That is how the music business > > goes, like it or not. And, no, I'm not necessarily a Natalie I fan. > > If someone took something of mine and made it into a "hit" ____ I don't > think I could face hearing something that I had written with pain and > emotion on a top forty station. Covers are a part of the music business, > but that doesn't mean that it isn't common courtesy to ask someone before > covering a song. not to be a bitch, but think before you speak...Peace, > I'm outta here... > > Sincerely, > > > Mark > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~mcathell > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > "I've been feeling so old. Tell me now, who do you think I am?" > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:18:55 PDT From: "Torn Spice" Subject: NPR "Torn" Guys,guys,GUYS!! I wasnt trying to start an EdnaNatalie spat-only letting you know about another version of that song. S ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:14:36 EDT From: Gaul Aiel Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" In a message dated 98-04-12 16:33:51 EDT, mcathell@osf1.gmu.edu writes: << That is what is wrong with the whole industry today, no one cares enough about anything but money to do anything of their own. Money isn't site when it all boils down. If N. I. had done it on a tribute album or whatever, than that would be fine (personally, I had never heard of Endaswap). Apparently they care enough about their music to wnat to reach perfection with their song, rather than just throwing out the first version of a song that was made. Not to sound bitter ... >> Now what makes you think Natalie Imbruglia did it 'just for the money'? That's a rather unfair accusation to make. Perhaps she heard a good song, and knew she could really bring it out well. Obviously Ednaswap couldn't, as the majority of people haven't heard it. Had they done a decent job on their own, we'd be talking about them. <> If someone took something of yours and made it a hit, then that's the way it's going to be. YOU will make a ton of money off of your hard work in writing the song. That is how the business works. See, this is all just another instance of musical snobbery on the part of fans. Everyone wants to think that the people they listen to are too cool for radio airplay. I guess it fulfills some sort of need in people to feel 'alternative'. And when someone else records a song and has success as opposed to whoever the original artist was, people get upset about it. It has nothing to do with the fans, it's all about the song. Gaul Aiel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:28:25 EDT From: Gaul Aiel Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" In a message dated 98-04-12 17:07:50 EDT, DrScream2 writes: << Your saying its sad and bitter that they sad that about Natalie, then you end up saying something mean about Ednaswap? And you can't saying anything unless you have heard the first version, on their first album. I mean I like Natalie's version of Torn, but its not what made me like her. Big Mistake and Smoke is what made me attracted to her music. And its cool to cover someone else's song at concert. Its one thing to put a cover on your album, and its another to release it as a single! Anyway, you would be giving the same response if someone said something like that about POE. >> All I did was comment on the pettiness of this Anne chick from Ednaswap. What she said was ridiculous and silly. If their version was so good, I WOULD have heard it already. Give them credit, they did write the song, but sometimes it takes someone special to bring out the best in it. What in the world is so wrong about putting a cover song on your album? It's been going on since albums were first being made. All of a sudden it's a crime to do that? I don't think so. If someone could do one of Poe's songs better than she did, then more power to them! See, it's all about the song, not the artist in my mind. Songs last, artists don't. Gaul Aiel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:30:49 EDT From: Gaul Aiel Subject: Re: NPR "Torn" In a message dated 98-04-12 18:23:29 EDT, tiwin@hotmail.com writes: << Guys,guys,GUYS!! I wasnt trying to start an EdnaNatalie spat-only letting you know about another version of that song. S >> Can't help it... there always has to be SOME sort of spat going on with the AP's, right? ;) We're just doing our part to keep up some conversation! Gaul Aiel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:33:36 EDT From: DrScream2 Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" In a message dated 4/12/98 6:22:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GaulAiel@aol.com writes: > Now what makes you think Natalie Imbruglia did it 'just for the money'? > That's a rather unfair accusation to make. Perhaps she heard a good song, > and > knew she could really bring it out well. Obviously Ednaswap couldn't, as the > majority of people haven't heard it. Had they done a decent job on their own, > > we'd be talking about them. «^»`·´«^» HAVE YOU EVEN HEARD EDNASWAP!!?!?!!?!?!? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:32:43 -0500 From: toxie@juno.com Subject: The New Guy Well I have just relieved my conformation so I guess that makes me the new guy. Let me start out by introducing myself. I am called ToxicShock but all my friends just call me Toxie. Yes I wrap myself tightly in the anonymity of the Net. Just to make it clear so no one is offended at the time of taking the name I had never heard of toxic shock syndrome so believe me no offense is intended or implied to anyone. By the time I learned of it I was already engrained deeply with the name. My origins are a little complicated I am a millitary brat born in Hawaii. I have lived in California for a few years but the majority of my life has been spent in Texas, were I currently live. I am 25 years old and feel every bit of it at times. I spent 5 years in the U.S. Army and that tends to age you fast. The first time that I ever heard Poe I was watching C|Net Central on T.V. and they were doing a story on musicians who use the Net as a medium to get heard. One of the main interviews was with Poe. They played Hello and I was hooked for life. To be honest I really wasn't paying that much attention untill I heard the song. "M.O.D. are you out there?" I was there, I never heard anyone sing about a Hacker group much less the infamous M.O.D.! The first thing I did after the story was over was hit the Net and order the CD. After I got it I just about wore it out. It still has a permanent slot in the CD changer of my car. When it comes to my other listening interests I am very eclectic. I mainly listen to hard rock/metal but I do listen to just about everything else. Being raised in Texas I do let a little country music slip in from time to time. It really depends on what mood I happen to be in at the time that dictates what I listen to. I guess I have droned on about myself enough so I will end the torture here. I am happy to be a part of the family now, and look forward to the future. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:30:42 EDT From: GalaxyGrab Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" honestly, when i write music and everything, i write it because it's how i feel and i wouldn't want someone else playing my music if they don't know what i felt. liz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:50:32 PDT From: "Angry Psycho" Subject: POE - TODAY enters HEAVY ROTATION I have recently noticed that the song "TODAY" from the Great Expectations sountrack has hit heavy rotation on one station - 94.7 KNRK in Portland, OR. While driving home I flipped thru stations on my presets, and suddenly heard a voice singing "Standing in the doorway of my life in this house..." Elated, I listened to the song, then called the DJ to thank him for playing POE. He confirmed this info for me: 1. TODAY IS OFFICIALLY A SINGLE at the station 2. TODAY is in heavy rotation - Played once every 2 hours 3. RISE AND SHINE will be played on their station 4. They have live acoustic and stage performances on hand that they randomly play - THIS IS AWESOME They also plan to occasionally play "I Caint Say No" from Welcome to Woop Woop, and the Fastball song with POE whenever they can sneak it in. The DJ I talked to was on the Saturday/Sunday Midnight - 5:00 shift, but apparently, TODAY is going over well with Portland. ~jason - --Sticks and stones have broken some bones, but don't ya know that words hurt even more... and deep down inside, I gotta know why. I GOTTA know what for? When all I feel is love inside, and all I need is love inside.-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:19:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Rebecca Lynn Clark Subject: Re: NPR- "Torn" well, if they like the song enough to do a cover of it, then apparently they felt something when they heard it, and i would fee honored. My opinion...if they appreciate the thought and the feelings that went into making the song, then hey! I'm honored! - -Becky =O) Poetry page: http://www.pathetic.org/member-works.cgi?siteid=876026929 Web site: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~acrn/djs/psycho.html On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, GalaxyGrab wrote: > > honestly, when i write music and everything, i write it because it's how i > feel and i wouldn't want someone else playing my music if they don't know what > i felt. > > liz > ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V3 #104 ***********************************