From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V3 #73 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, March 13 1998 Volume 03 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Internet Message [YEEL96E@prodigy.com (OO LALA)] Internet Message [YEEL96E@prodigy.com (OO LALA)] Re: Internet Message [Gaul Aiel ] donna/cam's show ["POE.ORG" ] NPR: Re: Internet Message [IEd33I ] NPR: Re: Internet Message [IEd33I ] Re: PR! YellowCab Shoes [lyza ] Re: POE's dark side traditional? [Katie Rich ] RE: POE's dark side ["PadmaT" ] Re: Poe and relationships [STAR982 ] Fly Away-the meaning the confusion [Goalygirl7 ] Re: Poe and relationships [Goalygirl7 ] Re: Fly Away [*-mark-* ] NPR: Re: Internet Message [YEEL96E@prodigy.com (OO LALA)] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [SuPeRxSpYx ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [HappyFantom ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message ["Bill Holz" ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [SuPeRxSpYx ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [HappyFantom ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [SuPeRxSpYx ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message [HappyFantom ] Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message ["Bill Holz" ] Good News ["LAFF.ORG" ] GET "TODAY" into rotation.. [Robby Black ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:07:54, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (OO LALA) Subject: Internet Message >> >Ed >> >'owner of a now pierced nipple' >> >ed@poe.org >> >http://members.aol.com/ied33i and here we examine the deeper, darker psyche of our own dear ed, who apparently (and subconsciously, of course) feels a deep seated urge to add his OWN npr agenda to this list... ...or does npr stand for "nipple piercing related?" :) hehehehehe... - - evil rose. ____ - ------------------------------------ oolala@aros.net ICQ #4740929 http://www.angelfire.com/ut/oola ------------------------------------- visit The Kobran Imperium BBS 1.801.265.1299 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:11:01, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (OO LALA) Subject: Internet Message >On a more proactive note. . we could perhaps try to come up with a good Poe >topic? News is nice but it's pretty much a one-shot (Hey guys. .x is >happening), it's not like we'll start a thread that way. hmmm... i wonder if POE has a pierced nipple... hehehehehe... - - evil rose. ____ - ------------------------------------ oolala@aros.net ICQ #4740929 http://www.angelfire.com/ut/oola ------------------------------------- visit The Kobran Imperium BBS 1.801.265.1299 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:44:37 EST From: Gaul Aiel Subject: Re: Internet Message In a message dated 98-03-12 06:24:36 EST, YEEL96E@prodigy.com writes: << hmmm... i wonder if POE has a pierced nipple... hehehehehe... >> Now THERE'S something to contemplate! Hmmm ... ;) Doug ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:05:33 -0700 (MST) From: "POE.ORG" Subject: donna/cam's show Hey Hey... * * * I just wanted to check and see who is going to Cameron and Donna's Concert in NYC on Sat... Getting a number count would be cool. * * * Email me privately, Please... * * * Thanks/// POE.ORG jarrod@poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:07:06 EST From: IEd33I Subject: NPR: Re: Internet Message In a message dated 98-03-12 06:15:06 EST, YEEL96E@prodigy.com writes: << ...or does npr stand for "nipple piercing related?" :) hehehehehe... >> LOL... hehehe....yeah.. from now on you can only post an NPR if you have your nipple pierced.. :) j/k.... but does anyone else out there have a nipple pierced (male or female)? Just wondering how long it will be before it can be 'played' with and when it won't be sore every friggin time I touch it! oh well.. but it looks cool.. :) Ed ed@poe.org Owner of a sore pierced nipple http://members.aol.com/ied33i ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:10:58 EST From: IEd33I Subject: NPR: Re: Internet Message In a message dated 98-03-12 07:59:08 EST, you write: << << hmmm... i wonder if POE has a pierced nipple... hehehehehe... >> Now THERE'S something to contemplate! Hmmm ... ;) Doug >> hehe.. yep.. already contemplating very seriously... :) *with my hands guarding my face waiting for a smack from Ashley* Now would htis be considered prying into Poe's personal life too much, or should this be a question on the next AP intereview... and while we've wandered to that topic, is htere any plans to have another AP interview like Clint recently reposted? Ed ed@poe.org Wondering who's nipple's bigger.... :) http://members.aol.com/ied33i ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:52:07 -0500 (EST) From: lyza Subject: Re: PR! YellowCab Shoes > >Check out this site guys, >I'm gonna order me some now... >http://www.yellow-cab-co.com/yellow-cab/home.html > >Yes, Poe stuff is on the page .... you'll see. >Rob > ________________ You may not know this, but Yellow Cab shoes sponsored my Poe Road Trip last summer. They are a wonderful company. President Bryan is a really great guy, and if you had discovered these shoes last summer, I could have given you a nice discount... They are also great shoes. I wear mine every day. Lyza ________________________________________ Lyza Gardner Kavi Corporation 1233 NW 12th Avenue, Ste. 212 Portland, OR 97209 503.243.7130 (phone) 503.243.7132 (fax) lyza@kavi.com ________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:54:17 -0500 (EST) From: Katie Rich Subject: Re: POE's dark side traditional? PadmaT wrote: > Also, I really think that "dark side" artistry is very much an > American > tradition...starting with Poe, Melville, and even Hawthorne; more > recently, > Sylvia Plath and others. My own poetry is very much neo-gothic at > times (by > neo-gothic, I refer not to the contemporary social phenomenon, but to > the > gothic tradition of Poe (EA), Lord Byron, Mary Shelley, Rimbaud and > Baudelaire). first of all, i have to disagree with your statement that "dark-sided" artists are an American tradition. what about russians like dostoevsky, filmmakers like swedish ingmar bergman, german abstract expressionist painters like max beckman, or italian neo-modern painter francesco clemente? i think that, in general, most artists have a dark side -- it is this dark side which enables them to separate enough from (or to feel separate enough from) the march of everyday life and thus to comment effectively on it. > Especially today, when our inner needs cannot be even remotely > met by an increasingly materialistic and cynical public, our lady Poe > helps > keep this tradition alive--inviting us to ignore the temptation to be > "dumbed > down" and consider issues of depth, however painful. And as we are, by > and > large, a very repressed civilization, we can expect those more > subterranean, > subtle energies to be quite painful, indeed. i agree with you about poe's "dark side" and her investigation of painful issues. however, i think it is the fact that she is cynical which allows us to relate to her and thus to meet our inner needs. i agree that there is the trend of increasingly materialism and increasing cynicism, however, i feel that oftentimes, these two trends lead to quite different camps of people, i.e. cynical people dissect and criticize society and end up denouncing materialism and then connect with other cynical people as those who are on this list, while the more materialistic people take another path which usually does not include much reflection on society's ills, etc. i know nothing is clear-cut and i will admit that, like many others, i often fall into the trap of seeing issues in the dualism characteristic of the Western mind, but just wanted to share my thoughts on this one . . . katie ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 1998 17:22:58 -0700 From: "PadmaT" Subject: RE: POE's dark side My replies are imbedded below. Padma _______________________________________________________________________________ From: Katie Rich on Thu, Mar 12, 1998 5:09 PM Subject: Re: POE's dark side traditional? To: Angry Psychos PadmaT wrote: > Also, I really think that "dark side" artistry is very much an > American > tradition...starting with Poe, Melville, and even Hawthorne; more > recently, > Sylvia Plath and others. My own poetry is very much neo-gothic at > times (by > neo-gothic, I refer not to the contemporary social phenomenon, but to > the > gothic tradition of Poe (EA), Lord Byron, Mary Shelley, Rimbaud and > Baudelaire). first of all, i have to disagree with your statement that "dark-sided" artists are an American tradition. what about russians like dostoevsky, filmmakers like swedish ingmar bergman, german abstract expressionist painters like max beckman, or italian neo-modern painter francesco clemente? i think that, in general, most artists have a dark side -- it is this dark side which enables them to separate enough from (or to feel separate enough from) the march of everyday life and thus to comment effectively on it. Please do not confuse my acknowledging the American tradition of "dark art" with claiming that other cultures do not have their own "dark" traditions--a claim I never made (I'm too well educated in the arts to be so absurd). Poe *is* American, and I addressed her as such. You misunderstand me, my friend. > Especially today, when our inner needs cannot be even remotely > met by an increasingly materialistic and cynical public, our lady Poe > helps > keep this tradition alive--inviting us to ignore the temptation to be > "dumbed > down" and consider issues of depth, however painful. And as we are, by > and > large, a very repressed civilization, we can expect those more > subterranean, > subtle energies to be quite painful, indeed. i agree with you about poe's "dark side" and her investigation of painful issues. however, i think it is the fact that she is cynical which allows us to relate to her and thus to meet our inner needs. Personally, I do not find Poe all that cynical, and question your characterization of her cynicism as "fact". She may be angry--even pissed off--but nothing in her lyrics smacks of cynicism to my ear. i agree that there is the trend of increasingly materialism and increasing cynicism, however, i feel that oftentimes, these two trends lead to quite different camps of people, i.e. cynical people dissect and criticize society and end up denouncing materialism and then connect with other cynical people as those who are on this list, while the more materialistic people take another path which usually does not include much reflection on society's ills, etc. Perhaps, perhaps. As I am not a cynic, nor a materialist, really, I can honestly say that it's my perception that cynicism results from the abandonment of deeply-held *personal* spiritual values, of personal ideals, and from cultural disaffection. Personally, I see cynicism and materialism as synonomous, but I do distinguish cynicism from resentment. i know nothing is clear-cut and i will admit that, like many others, i often fall into the trap of seeing issues in the dualism characteristic of the Western mind, but just wanted to share my thoughts on this one . . . Perhaps it's all semantics.....Padma katie - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.rmc.org with ADMIN;12 Mar 1998 17:08:25 -0700 Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (root) by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yDHwM-0001bL-00; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:03:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id SAA24902; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:57:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id SAA24814 for angry-psychos-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:54:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:54:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803122354.SAA24814@smoe.org> Received: from william.ne.mediaone.net by chmls05.mediaone.net From: Katie Rich To: Angry Psychos Subject: Re: POE's dark side traditional? Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:22:23 EST From: STAR982 Subject: Re: Poe and relationships In a message dated 98-03-11 13:26:03 EST, jragon@linex.com writes: I think that Poe does an excellent but subtle job of conveying her thoughts and feeling through her music. I think PoE is probably very tough like she comes across, but everyone has a soft spot in their hearts no matter how they appear externally. In my opinion, I think Poe's weak spot might just be in relationships...just a thought. Laura * Sweet Surrender, it's all that I have to give* << well, ok - here's a concept: I went to some music store where they have those little music computers.. type in an artist and get some info about them. I typed in Poe and found a review about "hello". It was mostly favorable, but something stuck out in my mind.. They said something to the effect of "Poe finds herself in potentially harmful relationships, but finds it in herself to laugh at her mistakes".. that's incredibly paraphrased.. probably mostly made up, but the idea is there. So then I was thinking about "and I hate myself just enough to love him" and then the new song on "welcome to woop woop" is talking a lot about "what should you do when a guy is flirting with you? spit in his eye? I'm just a girl who can't say no" and then "fly away / sweet bird of prey" .. on one hand, that's just a ryhme (that Jim Morrison used) but on another - what's a "bird of prey"? Not just a sweet hummingbird. More like a vulture, a hawk, an eagle. So is she telling this person to just leave... she's been hurt too much? "but if you could look inside my brain you'd know exactly what you mean here" (I forget the rest of the lyrics around that line - this is off the top of my head) that line refers to this person not knowing who he is, but she still knows just how important he is to *her*. Sort of an interesting line.. trying to maintain love with someone that can't love himself? Knowing someone who doesn't know himself? ok - there. Any other "relationship" lyrics? These were easy to pull, I'm sure theres a bunch more. And the most puzzling thing about this is how strong Poe has always seemed when I've met her. Never struck me as someone who would take someone else's shit. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:31:06 EST From: Goalygirl7 Subject: Fly Away-the meaning the confusion Why does this song hit such a strong key? Why does it pose so much confusion? It fits so much and speaks so much. Yet the message is so simple. I'm completely lost. I totally in Love. I'm crying..I'm lost. How can one song change my life so much. What did she mean when she actually wrote it? What was she really saying?? (OH by the way what's the password to register?) Star Also know as Liz...to most friends though it's Star Child...but Star for short. SEE YA!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:39:41 EST From: Goalygirl7 Subject: Re: Poe and relationships I also want to know the meaning of Angry Johnny...she say's it's a love song. I see how it could be...but then I don't...but then I do! I guess it's JUST A SWEET COLLABORATION....maybe he was NOTHING MORE THAN A SADITISTIC INFANT?? STAR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:08:32 -0500 (EST) From: *-mark-* Subject: Re: Fly Away When I saw poe for the first and only time, she introduced the song as being written when her father (maybe grandfather, i can't quite remember) was dying. but it kind of makes me think of the old addage, if you really love something, set it free, and if it comes back to you, then it really loves you. just me, and I am a pretty fu&ked up guy. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Goalygirl7 wrote: > > Why does this song hit such a strong key? Why does it pose so much confusion? > It fits so much and speaks so much. Yet the message is so simple. I'm > completely lost. I totally in Love. I'm crying..I'm lost. How can one song > change my life so much. > > What did she mean when she actually wrote it? What was she really saying?? > > > > (OH by the way what's the password to register?) > > > Star > > Also know as Liz...to most friends though it's Star Child...but Star for > short. > > SEE YA!! > Sincerely, Mark http://mason.gmu.edu/~mcathell ______________________________________________________________________________ "I just want to see the light of day" ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:35:38, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (OO LALA) Subject: NPR: Re: Internet Message frankly, i think our own dear ed should be compelled to post a pic of his poor sore little nub for us all to see. ;) hehehehehe. - er. ____ - ------------------------------------ oolala@aros.net ICQ #4740929 http://www.angelfire.com/ut/oola ------------------------------------- visit The Kobran Imperium BBS 1.801.265.1299 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:52:37 EST From: SuPeRxSpYx Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message frankly, i think our own dear ed should be compelled to post a pic of his poor sore little nub for us all to see. ;) hehehehehe. - er. **************************************** are we sure we all want to see his poor sore little nub? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:00:18 -0500 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message At 11:35 PM 3/12/98 -0500, you wrote: > >frankly, i think our own dear ed should be compelled to post a pic of >his poor sore little nub for us all to see. ;) > > hehehehehe. - er. > heh.. ok I"ll go stick my nipple on the copier at work, xerox it, then take it and scan it into the comptuer and upload it to my site.. :) hey it's my last day.. :) too bad my dad works in the same office.. *shrug* heheh.... here's a drawing.. :) /---\ / \ ( / * \ ) + + \---/ O <-----that's the ring with a little silver ball.. :) Ed ed@poe.org Sabrina says three months to heal.. :P http://members.aol.com/ied33i ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:05:56 -0500 (EST) From: HappyFantom Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message that is your nipple? whoa, tough break man, that is one messed up nipple! ;) steve "Mirror, mirror, where's the crystal palace? But I only can see myself Skating around the truth who I am But I know, dad, the ice is getting thin. -tori On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Ed Hunsinger wrote: > > At 11:35 PM 3/12/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > >frankly, i think our own dear ed should be compelled to post a pic of > >his poor sore little nub for us all to see. ;) > > > > hehehehehe. - er. > > > > heh.. ok I"ll go stick my nipple on the copier at work, xerox it, then take > it and scan it into the comptuer and upload it to my site.. :) hey it's my > last day.. :) too bad my dad works in the same office.. *shrug* heheh.... > here's a drawing.. :) > > /---\ > / \ > ( / * \ ) > + + > \---/ > O <-----that's the ring with a little silver ball.. :) > > Ed > ed@poe.org > Sabrina says three months to heal.. :P > http://members.aol.com/ied33i > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:24:07 -0600 From: "Bill Holz" Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message >>frankly, i think our own dear ed should be compelled to post a pic of >>his poor sore little nub for us all to see. ;) >> >> hehehehehe. - er. >> > >heh.. ok I"ll go stick my nipple on the copier at work, xerox it, then take >it and scan it into the comptuer and upload it to my site.. :) hey it's my Fax it! :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:28:41 -0500 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message At 11:52 PM 3/12/98 EST, SuPeRxSpYx wrote: > > >frankly, i think our own dear ed should be compelled to post a pic of >his poor sore little nub for us all to see. ;) > > hehehehehe. - er. >**************************************** >are we sure we all want to see his poor sore little nub? > > I love how everyone refers to it as a 'nub' heheh... how do you know whether I have huge nipples or small ones, eh? (keep quiet ashley.. :) Ed ed@poe.org (Look here for future nipple messages) http://members.aol.com/ied33i ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:30:32 -0500 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message At 11:24 PM 3/12/98 -0600, Bill Holz wrote: >>>frankly, i think our own dear ed should be compelled to post a pic of >>>his poor sore little nub for us all to see. ;) >>> >>> hehehehehe. - er. >>> >> >>heh.. ok I"ll go stick my nipple on the copier at work, xerox it, then take >>it and scan it into the comptuer and upload it to my site.. :) hey it's my > > >Fax it! :) > > > LOLOL... I just got this picture of me stuck in the fax machine with my feet sticking up in the air.. hehehe... Ed ed@poe.org Going to clean in a minute http://members.aol.com/ied33i ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:40:10 EST From: SuPeRxSpYx Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message Well....you ARE a guy aren't you? So i would hope you didn't have big nubs.... The SuPeR SpY 0_0 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: HappyFantom Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message i seriously have never heard the word NUB used in that context before. steve "Mirror, mirror, where's the crystal palace? But I only can see myself Skating around the truth who I am But I know, dad, the ice is getting thin. -tori On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, SuPeRxSpYx wrote: > > Well....you ARE a guy aren't you? So i would hope you didn't have big nubs.... > > The SuPeR SpY 0_0 > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:57:09 EST From: SuPeRxSpYx Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message NUB....it IS a funny word, isn't it? Well, there's always a first time for everything, isn't there, Steve? Like me for instance....i have never heard such a lengthy conversation on pagan lesbians in my entire life...(oh dear GOD! I brought up that forbidden topic again....just forget i mentioned that ok?) The SuPeR SpY 0_0 ******* i seriously have never heard the word NUB used in that context before. steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:01:45 -0500 (EST) From: HappyFantom Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message er..yeah, i guess you are right. Poe would be proud (???) steve "Mirror, mirror, where's the crystal palace? But I only can see myself Skating around the truth who I am But I know, dad, the ice is getting thin. -tori On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, SuPeRxSpYx wrote: > NUB....it IS a funny word, isn't it? Well, there's always a first time for > everything, isn't there, Steve? Like me for instance....i have never heard > such a lengthy conversation on pagan lesbians in my entire life...(oh dear > GOD! I brought up that forbidden topic again....just forget i mentioned that > ok?) > > The SuPeR SpY 0_0 > ******* > i seriously have never heard the word NUB used in that context before. > > > > steve > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:15:39 -0600 From: "Bill Holz" Subject: Re: NPR: Re: Internet Message Yeah, but I think pagan lesbians have 'nubbins' and not just 'nubs' I'm sorry. .I couldn't help it. . it's like having someone tell you not to push a big red button!!!!! - -Bill >NUB....it IS a funny word, isn't it? Well, there's always a first time for >everything, isn't there, Steve? Like me for instance....i have never heard >such a lengthy conversation on pagan lesbians in my entire life...(oh dear >GOD! I brought up that forbidden topic again....just forget i mentioned that >ok?) > >The SuPeR SpY 0_0 >******* >i seriously have never heard the word NUB used in that context before. > > > >steve > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:06:46 -0500 From: "LAFF.ORG" Subject: Good News There has been some recent news in the development of "Rise and Shine" IT sounds very good. I don't want to speculate, so just stay tuned and an announcement will be made. (By Monday) I did talk to someone who talked with POE today. POE is doing great. Working long hours, enjoying it. Take Care, Robby admin@laff.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:11:46 -0500 From: Robby Black Subject: GET "TODAY" into rotation.. As my most earlier in the week, one of POE's/Angry-Psychos biggest supporters is the Nerve 95.1/95.5 in Rochester, NY. The will be playing "TODAY" in the new music spotlight ((FRIDAY March 13, Today)). What WE need to do is to vote this into rotation. (This will be really important especially with the news about "Rise and Shine". ) Call 716 -222-nerve (6378) around 8:15 EST. Say something like "I am an Angry-Psychos and I am voting for POE." Make sure that you say you are out of town caller if you are. I will be posting a phone card number tommorow, the card has 15 minutes so respect that, do your business and get out. Let other people use it. Sincerely Psycho, robby ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V3 #73 **********************************