From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V2 #367 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, November 14 1997 Volume 02 : Number 367 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Email address ["Wheeler, Justin" ] Love Line [Karlee5@aol.com] FW: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! ["A Hess" ] re: icq [Anfrey ] Re: FW: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! ["CockyŽ" ] Ridiculous Kidney stuff [Orpheus <71034.1104@compuserve.com>] Re: NPR : Ani Difranco ["angel" ] year in review [Flickergrl@aol.com] Re: sessions, b-sides [oobushoo@juno.com (Bich Ngoc Q Cao)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:10:25 -0500 From: "Wheeler, Justin" Subject: Email address my email address has changed to wheelrz95@aol.com JW ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:20:13 -0500 (EST) From: Karlee5@aol.com Subject: Love Line the re - ran...runned...ren? whatever - her episode last night in case anyone cares. i love her shirt! carly "A tiger in a cage, can never see the sun! This diva needs her stage, baby!" - - Maureen in "Take Me Or Leave Me" (RENT by Jonathan Larson) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:54:59 -0800 From: "A Hess" Subject: FW: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! I Got this from a friend of mine. It's true. It's scary. It's something that we should know about. I have removed a majority of the forwarding marks, (there were a lot). Please read this and be carefull. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------- I have heard a lot about this in the past year or so. There have been several reports on TV about this lately. My friend is a Doctor at Hershey Med. Center and was a resident at a hospital in FL a few years ago and said that it is happening everywhere. Pretty scarey! This is incredibly scarey. I'm surprised we haven't heard more about this. Has anyone heard anything??? This guy went out last Saturday night to a party. He was having a good time, had >>a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited him >>to go to another party. He quickly agreed and decided to go along >>with her. She took him to a party in some apartment and they >>continued to drink, and even got involved with some other drugs >>(unknown which). The next thing he knew, he woke up completely naked in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still feeling the effects of >>the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He looked down at >>his chest, which had =CALL 911 OR YOU WILL DIE= written on it in >> lipstick. He saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub, so >>he picked it up and dialed. He explained to the EMS operator what >>the situation was and that he didn't know where he was, what he >>took, or why he was really calling. She advised him >>to get out of the tub. He did, and she asked him to look himself >>over in the mirror. He did, and appeared normal, so she told him to >>check his back. He did, only to find two 9-inch slits on his lower >>back. She told him to get back in the tub immediately, and they sent >>a rescue team over. Apparently, after being examined, he found out >>more of what had happened. His kidneys were stolen. They are worth >>10,000 dollars each on the black market. (I was unaware this even >>existed.) Several guesses are in order: The second party >>was a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical students, >>and it was not just recreational drugs he was given. Regardless, he >>is currently in the hospital on life support, awaiting a spare >>kidney. The University of Texas in conjunction with Baylor >>University Medical Center is conducting tissue research to match the >>sophomore student with a donor. This was on 20/20 >>several weeks ago...My wife the nurse has confirmed that this is >>indeed going on. Please be careful, and bounce this message to >>anyone and everyone you can think of. > These messages have >>been edited only in that all the forwarding marks and source address >>have been removed (there were a lot of them). I wish to warn >>you about a new crime ring that is targeting business travelers. >>This ring is well organized, well funded, has very skilled >>personnel, and is currently in most major cities and recently very >active in New Orleans. The crime begins when a business traveler goes >> to a lounge for a drink at the end of the work day. A person in the >> bar walks up as they sit alone and offers to buy them a drink. The >> last thing the traveler remembers until they wake up in a hotel room >> bath tub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is sipping that >>drink. There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to >>move and to call 911. A phone is on a small table next to the >>bathtub for them to call. The business traveler calls 911, who have >>become quite familiar with this crime. The business traveler is >>instructed by the 911 operator to very slowly and carefully reach >>behind them and feel if there is a tube protruding from >>their lower back. The business traveler finds the tube and answers >>"yes". The 911 operator tells them to remain still, having >>already sent paramedics to help. The operator knows that both of >>the business traveler's kidneys have been harvested. >>This is not a scam or out of a science fiction novel, it is real. It >>> is documented and confirmable. If you travel or someone close to >>you travels, please be careful. Yes, this does >>happen. My sister-in-law works with a lady that this happened to her >>son's neighbor who lives in Houston. The only good thing to his >>whole story is the fact that the people doing this horrible >>crime are very aware of what complications can happen afterwards, and >>take detailed precautions to set up the room before leaving. The >>word from my sister-in-law is that the hospital in Las Vegas (yes, >>Vegas) prior to transferring him back to Houston stated that these >>people know exactly what they are doing. The incision, etc. >>was exact and clean. >They use sterile equipment, etc. and the >>hospital stated that other than the fact that the victim >>loses a kidney there have not been any reports of other >>complications due to non-sterile, etc. tactics that were used. >> Sadly, this is very true. My husband is a Houston >>Firefighter/EMT and they have received alerts regarding this crime >>ring. It is to be taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend >>of a fellow firefighter had this happen to her. Skilled doctors are >>performing these crimes(which, by the way have been highly noted in >>the Las Vegas area). Additionally, the military has received alerts >>regarding this. This story blew me away. I really >>want as many people to see this as possible so please bounce this to >>whoever you can. Please think when you drink. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:57:32 -0800 (PST) From: Brandon Sovick Subject: [none] brandon sovick pittsburgh, pa 22 radio tool, mazzy star, everclear, garbage, marylin manson, korn, lords of acid, beatles, nin, doors, varuca salt, live, alice in chains, filter, etc. i think poe is georgous. i saw her on love line last night and about fainted. i dream to one day give her a hug. peace! __________________________________________________________________ Sent by Yahoo! Mail. Get your free e-mail at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:17:15 -0400 From: Anfrey Subject: re: icq At 03:07 PM 11/12/97 -0500, you wrote: >>i hate to sound stupid, but what is an ICQ number? > >well, ICQ means "i seek you." it's an internet pager associated and=20 >used with IRC (internet relay chat). it permits you to message anyone=20 >else who has ICQ, provided they've authorized you. to learn more=20 >about this, go to http://www.mirabilis.com for all the details...=20 >then download it - it's free! > >- rose. Sorry to burst your bubble, but ICQ has NOTHING to do with IRC. The site= admins of mIRC-X just decided to put it up on their page since it's a very= useful tool. :^) For all you non-ICQers out there: ICQ RULES!! GET IT!! heheh =3D) For all you ICQers out there: Those chain messages are all FAKE. Mirabilis= would let us know if they were to charge us (thru the SYSTEM icon) Anfrey =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97 0000,8080,0000=20 ffff,0000,0000<<0000,000= 0,ffffAnfrey Chengffff,0000,0000> 0000,8080,0000__________| 8080,8080,0000torito@rdc.cl 0000,8080,0000|____ | 0000,0000,8080http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1731= 31 0000,8080,0000|_________ |= 0000,0000,8080http://www.geocities.com/Sou= thBeach/1781/ 0000,8080,0000|__ |= 0000,0000,8080http://www.pagoo.com= /cgi-bin/me.cgi?69044850000,0000,8080 0000,8080,0000| 8080,0000,0000Look For Me In= 0000,0000,ffff#teen_things0000,0000,ffff= 8080,0000,0000on= ffff,0000,0000DALnet 0000,8080,8080 = 0000,0000,ffffBest Viewed= With0000,8080,8080= 8080,0000,8080Times New Roman Size 11= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:31:36 -0800 From: "CockyŽ" Subject: Re: FW: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! This is a sham... Neither 20/20 for any military groups have been put on alert about this, i got this about 2 years ago and was really interested so i did some research. In the One i got there were several names of doctors and the medical institutions they worked for, after much research i found none of the doctors and even some of the medical institutions were non-existant. In addition, there are several reasons that make this unlikely. 1:)The fact that the male had been drinking alcohol. 2:) the people "stealing" the kidneys have no idea what blood type he/she is 3) The recipient must be "standing by" awaiting the kidney, which also means that a second team of doctors has to be ready to put the kidney in. They also must have a recovery area staffed with nurses to monitor the progress. Not to mention the fact that the body might reject the kidney. There are other medical reasons....but im no doctor... Cocky=AE A Hess wrote: > I Got this from a friend of mine. It's true. It's scary. It's > something > that we should know about. I have removed a majority of the > forwarding > marks, (there were a lot). Please read this and be carefull. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > ------------------------- > I have heard a lot about this in the past year or so. There have been > > several reports on TV about this lately. My friend is a Doctor at > Hershey > Med. Center and was a resident at a hospital in FL a few years ago and > said > that it is happening everywhere. Pretty scarey! > > This is incredibly scarey. I'm surprised we haven't heard more about > this. Has anyone heard anything??? This guy went > out last Saturday night to a party. He was having a good time, had > >>a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited him > >>to go to another party. He quickly agreed and decided to go along > >>with her. She took him to a party in some apartment and they > >>continued to drink, and even got involved with some other drugs > >>(unknown which). The next thing he knew, he woke up completely > naked > in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still feeling the effects of > >>the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He looked down > at > >>his chest, which had =3DCALL 911 OR YOU WILL DIE=3D written on it in > >> lipstick. He saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub, so > >>he picked it up and dialed. He explained to the EMS operator what > >>the situation was and that he didn't know where he was, what he > >>took, or why he was really calling. She advised him > >>to get out of the tub. He did, and she asked him to look himself > >>over in the mirror. He did, and appeared normal, so she told him to > > >>check his back. He did, only to find two 9-inch slits on his lower > > >>back. She told him to get back in the tub immediately, and they > sent > >>a rescue team over. Apparently, after being examined, he found out > > >>more of what had happened. His kidneys were stolen. They are > worth > >>10,000 dollars each on the black market. (I was unaware this even > >>existed.) Several guesses are in order: The second party > >>was a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical > students, > >>and it was not just recreational drugs he was given. Regardless, > he > >>is currently in the hospital on life support, awaiting a spare > >>kidney. The University of Texas in conjunction with Baylor > >>University Medical Center is conducting tissue research to match > the > >>sophomore student with a donor. This was on 20/20 > >>several weeks ago...My wife the nurse has confirmed that this is > >>indeed going on. Please be careful, and bounce this message to > >>anyone and everyone you can think of. > These messages have > >>been edited only in that all the forwarding marks and source address > > >>have been removed (there were a lot of them). I wish to warn > >>you about a new crime ring that is targeting business travelers. > >>This ring is well organized, well funded, has very skilled > >>personnel, and is currently in most major cities and recently very > >active > in New Orleans. The crime begins when a business traveler goes > >> to a lounge for a drink at the end of the work day. A person in > the > >> bar walks up as they sit alone and offers to buy them a drink. The > > >> last thing the traveler remembers until they wake up in a hotel > room > >> bath tub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is sipping > that > >>drink. There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to > >>move and to call 911. A phone is on a small table next to the > >>bathtub for them to call. The business traveler calls 911, who > have > >>become quite familiar with this crime. The business traveler is > >>instructed by the 911 operator to very slowly and carefully reach > >>behind them and feel if there is a tube protruding from > >>their lower back. The business traveler finds the tube and answers > > >>"yes". The 911 operator tells them to remain still, having > >>already sent paramedics to help. The operator knows that both of > >>the business traveler's kidneys have been harvested. > >>This is not a scam or out of a science fiction novel, it is real. > It > >>> is documented and confirmable. If you travel or someone close to > >>you travels, please be careful. Yes, this does > >>happen. My sister-in-law works with a lady that this happened to > her > >>son's neighbor who lives in Houston. The only good thing to his > >>whole story is the fact that the people doing this horrible > >>crime are very aware of what complications can happen afterwards, > and > >>take detailed precautions to set up the room before leaving. The > >>word from my sister-in-law is that the hospital in Las Vegas (yes, > >>Vegas) prior to transferring him back to Houston stated that these > >>people know exactly what they are doing. The incision, etc. > >>was exact and clean. >They use sterile equipment, etc. and the > >>hospital stated that other than the fact that the victim > >>loses a kidney there have not been any reports of other > >>complications due to non-sterile, etc. tactics that were used. > >> Sadly, this is very true. My husband is a Houston > >>Firefighter/EMT and they have received alerts regarding this crime > >>ring. It is to be taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend > >>of a fellow firefighter had this happen to her. Skilled doctors > are > >>performing these crimes(which, by the way have been highly noted in > > >>the Las Vegas area). Additionally, the military has received > alerts > >>regarding this. This story blew me away. I really > >>want as many people to see this as possible so please bounce this to > > >>whoever you can. Please think when you drink. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:40:03, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL) Subject: NPR re: icq NPR >Sorry to burst your bubble, but ICQ has NOTHING to do with IRC. The site= > admins of mIRC-X just decided to put it up on their page since it's a very= > useful tool. :^) huh? first you say it has nothing to do with IRC, then affirm that it's associated with IRC by the very fact that it's on the IRC page. hmmm. no matter how demeaning you get, it's STILL associated and used with IRC. (personally, it sounds like a superiority complex to me) end of subject. ____ - ------------------------------------ oolala@aros.net ICQ #4740929 http://www.arosnet.com/~oolala ------------------------------------- visit The Kobran Imperium BBS 1.801.265.1299 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:18:15 -0800 From: ROB WILLENBERG Subject: Re: FW: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! ummmmm ...It's a lie, what else can I say? It's one of those party stories that by the time you're 25 everybody's heard. I have yet, after 29 years to meet anyone who remotely knows of this story being true. ....It was done as a made for HBO or Showtime movie about four years ago or so......It's nothing more than a bad Mike Hanmmer plot A Hess wrote: > I Got this from a friend of mine. It's true. It's scary. It's something > that we should know about. I have removed a majority of the forwarding > marks, (there were a lot). Please read this and be carefull. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------- > I have heard a lot about this in the past year or so. There have been > several reports on TV about this lately. My friend is a Doctor at Hershey > Med. Center and was a resident at a hospital in FL a few years ago and said > that it is happening everywhere. Pretty scarey! > > This is incredibly scarey. I'm surprised we haven't heard more about > this. Has anyone heard anything??? This guy went > out last Saturday night to a party. He was having a good time, had > >>a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited him > >>to go to another party. He quickly agreed and decided to go along > >>with her. She took him to a party in some apartment and they > >>continued to drink, and even got involved with some other drugs > >>(unknown which). The next thing he knew, he woke up completely naked > in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still feeling the effects of > >>the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He looked down at > >>his chest, which had =CALL 911 OR YOU WILL DIE= written on it in > >> lipstick. He saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub, so > >>he picked it up and dialed. He explained to the EMS operator what > >>the situation was and that he didn't know where he was, what he > >>took, or why he was really calling. She advised him > >>to get out of the tub. He did, and she asked him to look himself > >>over in the mirror. He did, and appeared normal, so she told him to > >>check his back. He did, only to find two 9-inch slits on his lower > >>back. She told him to get back in the tub immediately, and they sent > >>a rescue team over. Apparently, after being examined, he found out > >>more of what had happened. His kidneys were stolen. They are worth > >>10,000 dollars each on the black market. (I was unaware this even > >>existed.) Several guesses are in order: The second party > >>was a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical students, > >>and it was not just recreational drugs he was given. Regardless, he > >>is currently in the hospital on life support, awaiting a spare > >>kidney. The University of Texas in conjunction with Baylor > >>University Medical Center is conducting tissue research to match the > >>sophomore student with a donor. This was on 20/20 > >>several weeks ago...My wife the nurse has confirmed that this is > >>indeed going on. Please be careful, and bounce this message to > >>anyone and everyone you can think of. > These messages have > >>been edited only in that all the forwarding marks and source address > >>have been removed (there were a lot of them). I wish to warn > >>you about a new crime ring that is targeting business travelers. > >>This ring is well organized, well funded, has very skilled > >>personnel, and is currently in most major cities and recently very >active > in New Orleans. The crime begins when a business traveler goes > >> to a lounge for a drink at the end of the work day. A person in the > >> bar walks up as they sit alone and offers to buy them a drink. The > >> last thing the traveler remembers until they wake up in a hotel room > >> bath tub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is sipping that > >>drink. There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to > >>move and to call 911. A phone is on a small table next to the > >>bathtub for them to call. The business traveler calls 911, who have > >>become quite familiar with this crime. The business traveler is > >>instructed by the 911 operator to very slowly and carefully reach > >>behind them and feel if there is a tube protruding from > >>their lower back. The business traveler finds the tube and answers > >>"yes". The 911 operator tells them to remain still, having > >>already sent paramedics to help. The operator knows that both of > >>the business traveler's kidneys have been harvested. > >>This is not a scam or out of a science fiction novel, it is real. It > >>> is documented and confirmable. If you travel or someone close to > >>you travels, please be careful. Yes, this does > >>happen. My sister-in-law works with a lady that this happened to her > >>son's neighbor who lives in Houston. The only good thing to his > >>whole story is the fact that the people doing this horrible > >>crime are very aware of what complications can happen afterwards, and > >>take detailed precautions to set up the room before leaving. The > >>word from my sister-in-law is that the hospital in Las Vegas (yes, > >>Vegas) prior to transferring him back to Houston stated that these > >>people know exactly what they are doing. The incision, etc. > >>was exact and clean. >They use sterile equipment, etc. and the > >>hospital stated that other than the fact that the victim > >>loses a kidney there have not been any reports of other > >>complications due to non-sterile, etc. tactics that were used. > >> Sadly, this is very true. My husband is a Houston > >>Firefighter/EMT and they have received alerts regarding this crime > >>ring. It is to be taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend > >>of a fellow firefighter had this happen to her. Skilled doctors are > >>performing these crimes(which, by the way have been highly noted in > >>the Las Vegas area). Additionally, the military has received alerts > >>regarding this. This story blew me away. I really > >>want as many people to see this as possible so please bounce this to > >>whoever you can. Please think when you drink. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:14:03, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL) Subject: Internet Message >1:)The fact that the male had been drinking alcohol. yeah. this would be like transplanting a liver from a junkie with hepatitis! ____ - ------------------------------------ oolala@aros.net ICQ #4740929 http://www.arosnet.com/~oolala ------------------------------------- visit The Kobran Imperium BBS 1.801.265.1299 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:06:09 -0500 From: "Colin Alexander Eliot " Subject: Re: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! Please, please refrain from A) Believing this and B) Posting this. This is one of the most classic urban legends that has ever existed and as far as anyone knows, there has never been a reported case of this happening. there was a book published last year about popular urban legends and some of the background behind them, and this one was ruled totally false by anyone with medical knowledge. This ranks up (or down) there with the guy who thinks he has hemhoroids and when he goes to the doctor he finds out his college roommate was knocking him out with ether and taking advantage of him. everyone swears they heard it at their school, but it just isn't true. Dont be so gullible. Colin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:46:34 EST From: rainmelon@juno.com (Marissa A S) Subject: NPR : Ani Difranco Hello. Sorry to post an NPR, but I have a question. I want to ask for an Ani Difranco CD for Christmas and I was wondering which one I should get. Since a lot of AP's are Ani fans, I was wondering if people could e-mail me and tell me what their favorite Ani CD is. Thanks a bunch! Marissa rainmelon@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:56:03 -0500 (EST) From: Proudwolf Subject: Re: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! At 03:06 PM 11/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >Please, please refrain from A) Believing this and B) Posting this. This is >one of the most classic urban legends that has ever existed and as far as >anyone knows, there has never been a reported case of this happening. there >was a book published last year about popular urban legends and some of the >background behind them, and this one was ruled totally false by anyone with >medical knowledge. > This ranks up (or down) there with the guy who thinks he has hemhoroids >and when he goes to the doctor he finds out his college roommate was >knocking him out with ether and taking advantage of him. everyone swears >they heard it at their school, but it just isn't true. >Dont be so gullible. >Colin Um... It happened to someone I know. > > > *Oh brave new world that has such people in it!* *Never again the burning times.* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:41:19 -0800 From: ROB WILLENBERG Subject: Re: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! Would somebody on this list with medical knowledge please explain why this just won't happen, besides, why would someone who is capable of the act of removing someones organs bother letting them live? The next time I hold up a convenience store I'll remember NOT to bring a mask, smile into the video camera, and leave my phone number for the police.......this is ridiculous. Proudwolf wrote: > At 03:06 PM 11/13/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Please, please refrain from A) Believing this and B) Posting this. This is > >one of the most classic urban legends that has ever existed and as far as > >anyone knows, there has never been a reported case of this happening. there > >was a book published last year about popular urban legends and some of the > >background behind them, and this one was ruled totally false by anyone with > >medical knowledge. > > This ranks up (or down) there with the guy who thinks he has hemhoroids > >and when he goes to the doctor he finds out his college roommate was > >knocking him out with ether and taking advantage of him. everyone swears > >they heard it at their school, but it just isn't true. > >Dont be so gullible. > >Colin > > Um... It happened to someone I know. > > > > > > > > *Oh brave new world that has such people in it!* > *Never again the burning times.* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:52:23 +0000 From: "Jason K Helton" Subject: Re: How Bizarre !!! NPR but VITAL knowledge!!! > Um... It happened to someone I know. yup. It happens. There was an article published in Scientific American about 2 years ago about this sort of thing happening in some third world nation, I can't remember which one. If anybody really cares that much I can find out which issue, but I assure you it is for real. > *Never again the burning times.* Jason "Had they but courage equal to desire" - W B Yeats evergreen@poe.org jhelton@vt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:32:09 PST From: "Beautiful Baby" Subject: Re: Love Line How long has it been since Poe's been on Loveline on the radio? I don't get MTV, so I couldn't have watched her last night. Has she been on the radio show at all? If not, we should do something about it. And if she has, she should be on again, although I'm sure she will be when her new album comes out. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:11:07 -0500 From: Orpheus <71034.1104@compuserve.com> Subject: Ridiculous Kidney stuff Okay, let's review the facts. A)A kidney that has just been exposed to alcohol is useless to transplant. It would not have been done cleaning alcohol from the system, and the kidney would have been comtaminated, dangerous to any receiver. So any person who donates any kidney or liver must not have had drugs or alcohol recently. People who die drunk driving do not have their livers or kidneys transplanted. B)The typical way a transplant works is that a person needs an organ. So dead donors are looked for. Blood types must match. Then the organ is removed and must be installed within 24 HOURS or the risk of bacterial contamination is too great. Also, many people die waiting for a transplant. The culprit would have to see a business man, assume he has the right blood type AND a heathly kidney, then risk life in prison to get the organ. Not worth $10,000, if you ask me. C)This is a very serious crime. I just went and searched two medical databases, the New York Times website (www.nytimes.com), and alta-vista, finding no hard proof of illegal organ harvesting activities. This is no doubt felony assualt and battery, and if for some strange reason someone did want your kidneys, there is little chance that they could get away with it. Think about it. The victim would have been seen in a bar with the culprit, leaving many witnesses. And It's pretty hard to perform major surgery on someone without leaving evidence. This story is up to you to decide if it's true or not. I just gave some reasons why it could NOT be true, but I don't know. Hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:26:19 -0600 From: "angel" Subject: Re: NPR : Ani Difranco not a pretty girl or the double one (i dont' have it, can't remember what it's called, but iv'e heard it's really good) {\o/} /_\ angel@sd.cybernex.net motto: fuct ... name: aka69 ... member: pen15 i exist in the state of denial http://ww2.sd.cybernex.net/~lehmann/angel.html - ---------- > From: Marissa A S > To: angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: NPR : Ani Difranco > Date: Thursday, November 13, 1997 2:46 PM > > Hello. Sorry to post an NPR, but I have a question. I want to ask > for an Ani Difranco CD for Christmas and I was wondering which one I > should get. Since a lot of AP's are Ani fans, I was wondering if people > could e-mail me and tell me what their favorite Ani CD is. Thanks a > bunch! > > Marissa > rainmelon@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:13:42 -0500 (EST) From: Flickergrl@aol.com Subject: year in review wow. a whole year of Angry-Psychos. what can i say? i can't remember exactly when i joined this list, but i remember it was in november sometime. i was SO in love with "hello" and i was just dying to see POE play live. i was supremely jealous of everyone who had. :P at the time there were only a few people on the list, and i loved the closeness of it. i also learned alot about POE which i hadn't known before. then when someone interviewed POE, and she brought a little tape recorder in the bathroom and answered all of our questions.. i just thought that was amazingly cool (and she answered my question too!! hehe) people posted concert reviews and stories and POE just seemed like this incredibly awesome person!! in december came the "year in wrap up" thing on the radio, and that's when i got my hands on my first POE tapes from jarrod. :) i don't remember when the chat came up, but i remember a bunch of people one THURSDAY nite just waiting for POE to show up, and when she finally did, nomopoe or whatever kept crashing her system. :( it was about 1:30am and i was studying for a physics test while chatting. i also ordered a POE jacket too, and when that came in the mail along with a whole bunch of patches (thanks neeraj, but you are a big dork still. hahaha) i've heard many many debates on this list too...gavin rossdale, spice girls, smoking, religion, etc.. but through all of it we've still pulled together to feel like a family. this list is like none other. in june i got my chance to meet POE for my birthday in raleigh. i got there and kinda felt out of place 'cuz i knew NO ONE except my cousin (who was LITERALLY psycho and wouldn't let me in her room the WHOLE WEEK i was at her house and didn't even stand up or clap when POE performed) the first A-P i ever met was jon bell who is really cool and a REALLY good artist. we then met up with a whole bunch of other cool as hell people like kathy, tim, brad, nat, kent, and everyone else. they all rocked and i had tons of fun. during POE's set in the middle of a song she jumped off the stage and ran over to us, the cluster of people in the marroon t-shirts sitting about 30 rows back.. it was that time i finally realized the power that A-Ps had to bond together as a family (and also we were the only ones who knew the words to "how long" hehe) meeting POE and the band and having everyone sign my yearbook was one of the most fun things i've ever done. :) i'll remember it forever and ever and ever. through this list i've made a LARGE amount of really cool friends who keep in touch through e-mail and snail mail (even at sucky camp!!) and i certainly can't wait for another A-P get together in the next year to come. wow. this is long. shut me up now. but see, not EVERYTHING i say is sarcastic. :P i love you guys!! hope the next year is as PSYCHOTIC as this one has been ~*brette ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:42:34 -0800 From: oobushoo@juno.com (Bich Ngoc Q Cao) Subject: Re: sessions, b-sides Hi Brette, I don't have time to send you any tapes yet (I'm super stressed right now) but I will tape the stuff anyway..... If I'm gonna send you the video then I might as well give you AP tape tree #2 (sounds like you don't have it). I'll tape the show on Sat. and get back to you. Oh yeah, do you want the POE on On Tour? I'll go to your page and check out what you have. bich ngoc >lol. the obsessed fan who thinks fiona is good. lol. >can u tape it for me? both fiona and luscious jackson? i will trade you >bootlegs for it. i don't think we get that show here :( >let me know ok? >thanks for the info though!! :P >ok i am really mad because in august i sent ERIK J. HARTLEY a tape of >veruca >salt b-sides and he was supposed to send me some POE b-sides. >well, now it's november and i still don't have my tape from him (and >i'm not >the only one with this problem) >but my big problem is that i would really love to hear any POE song >that is >not on the album, like "little girl's dream" and "jane says" and all >that >cool stuff. >if someoen could make me a tape of all of those non-LP songs and stuff >i >would love them forever!!!!!!!! my list is up at >http://members.aol.com/flickergrl/vault.html >thanks ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V2 #367 ***********************************