From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V2 #307 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, September 15 1997 Volume 02 : Number 307 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR: THE PLAGUE has hit the Psychos [x-jiff-x@juno.com] Look Mom -> NPR: THE PLAGUE has hit the Psychos [Jarrod ] Theirs no poe news so NPR [LORDBASTRD@aol.com] POE pictures.. [Robby Black ] NPR: the circle of AP life [Emily ] NPR: the circle of AP life [YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL)] NPR poll. [Ron ] Re: NPR: the circle of AP life [GaulAiel@aol.com] NPR: the circle of AP life - Vegetarians ["TyM@n" ] introduction ["DONALD S FELTNER JR" ] Re: NPR: the circle of AP life [LORDBASTRD@aol.com] Yes. I'm back. [John deBoer ] Re: Yes. I'm back. [Flickergrl@aol.com] Re: NPR: the circle of AP life ["Jess Gilwee" ] Re: Yes. I'm back. ["Jess Gilwee" ] Re: NPR: the circle of AP life [YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL)] Re: Re: Yes. I'm back. [Flickergrl@aol.com] Re: NPR: the circle of AP life [LORDBASTRD@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:27:37 -0400 From: x-jiff-x@juno.com Subject: Re: NPR: THE PLAGUE has hit the Psychos heh, and to think, i was HAPPY that i wasn't getting tons of useless crap that isn't poe related... Daiv - ----- Tugboat Annie - The Not-Quite Official Page - New Address! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/4998 On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:33:36 PDT "Jess Gilwee" writes: >No shit I agree with rose. We have been censored exteremly and asked >to >not say and write things a lot. This list has not become what I >joined >it for. It has become a printing press for >the people in charge. > >Punk~Bitch >Jess > >>>But if not, something has! What's with this, there used to be tons >>of >>>messages here, and now I only got one message, ON A SATURDAY. Are >>you >>>guys sick or something??? >> >>yep. >>sick, censored and asked to shut up. >> >>rose, the infamous. >> >>____ >> >>"so many idiots, too few comets..." >>------------------------------------- >>weeps4none@juno.com >>http://www.angelfire.com/ut/weeps4none >>------------------------------------- >>visit The Kobran Imperium BBS >> 1.801.265.1299 >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>"have i forgotten to flame someone today?" >>------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 01:39:36 -0700 (MST) From: Jarrod Subject: Look Mom -> NPR: THE PLAGUE has hit the Psychos I started a much heavier consumption of JD when the email was heavy and useless... I agree with what I believe to be Daiv's position. If for nothing else -- my health. "Keep it POE related." ThankYou Jarrod P.S. Just use the NPR Rule "Kids!" On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 x-jiff-x@juno.com wrote: > heh, and to think, i was HAPPY that i wasn't getting tons of useless crap > that isn't poe related... > > Daiv > ----- > Tugboat Annie - The Not-Quite Official Page - New Address! > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/4998 > > On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:33:36 PDT "Jess Gilwee" > writes: > >No shit I agree with rose. We have been censored exteremly and asked > >to > >not say and write things a lot. This list has not become what I > >joined > >it for. It has become a printing press for > >the people in charge. > > > >Punk~Bitch > >Jess > > > >>>But if not, something has! What's with this, there used to be tons > >>of > >>>messages here, and now I only got one message, ON A SATURDAY. Are > >>you > >>>guys sick or something??? > >> > >>yep. > >>sick, censored and asked to shut up. > >> > >>rose, the infamous. > >> > >>____ > >> > >>"so many idiots, too few comets..." > >>------------------------------------- > >>weeps4none@juno.com > >>http://www.angelfire.com/ut/weeps4none > >>------------------------------------- > >>visit The Kobran Imperium BBS > >> 1.801.265.1299 > >>------------------------------------------------------------- > >>"have i forgotten to flame someone today?" > >>------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > Jarrod wwW.poe.org wWw.kedj.com Www.cyberfan.com - - Check it out... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:57:46 -0400 (EDT) From: HJSparkle@aol.com Subject: Poe and Sam Goody SGV5IGV2ZXJ5b25lISANCg0Kc2luY2UgaSBnb3QgbXkgam9iIGF0IFNhbSBHb29keSwgaSBn ZXQgYW4gb3Bwb3J0dW5pdHkgdG8gdGFsayB3aXRoIG90aGVyIFBPRQ0KZmFucy4gc29tZXRp bWVzLCBoZXIgbmFtZSBqdXN0IHBvcHMgdXAgd2hpbGUgdGFsa2luZyBhYm91dCB2YXJpb3Vz IGNvb2wNCmFydGlzdHMgd2hlbiBpIGFtIHJpbmdpbmcgdXAgdGhlaXIgbWVyY2hlbmRpc2Uu IGFuZCBhIGNvdXBsZSBwZW9wbGUgaGF2ZQ0KYm91Z2h0IHRoZSBDRC4gdG8gdGhvc2UgcGVv cGxlLCBpIHJhdmUgYW5kIHRhbGsgYWJvdXQgdGhlIENELCBwZXJoYXBzDQpjb252aW5jaW5n IHRoZW0gaSBhbSBpbnNhbmVseSBvYnNlc3NlZCB3aXRoIHRoaXMgbXlzdGVyaW91cyB3b21h biBuYW1lZCBQT0UuDQpJJ20gbm90IGluc2FuZS4uLmJ1dCBpIGFtLCBhbmQgYWx3YXlzIHdp bGwgYmUgb25lIHJhZ2luZyBBbmdyeS1Qc3ljaG8uIDopDQoNCkFQIExvdmUNCkhlYXRoZXIN CiJUaGUgU2FtIEdvb2R5IHdvcmtlciB3aG8ncyBub2JvZHkncyAnZ29vZHkgZ29vZHknIGdp cmwgOikiDQpoanNwYXJrbGVAYW9sLmNvbQ0KaHR0cDovL21lbWJlcnMuYW9sLmNvbS9oanNw YXJrbGUvaW5kZXguaHRtbA0KIkhlYXRoZXIiIGluIHRoZSBQT0Uub3JnIGNoYXRyb29tDQqk saSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGk saSxpLGksaSxpLGksaQNCiJJIGhlYXIgbXkgdm9pY2UsIGFuZCBpdCdzIGJlZW4gSEVSRS4u LnNpbGVudCBhbGwgdGhlc2UgeWVhcnMiIC0tVG9yaSBBbW9zIA0KpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGk saSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGksaSxpLGk DQo= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:45:02 -0400 From: Robby Black Subject: Re: hello dance remix on the air Well I was going out last night and i was fliping through the stations and heard it...It seems like most dance stations will play it if we request it...so lets do it...even though most of us don't listen to the stations, but we support POE right? later, robby At 08:37 PM 9/12/97 -0500, Emily wrote: >My sister in Fort Worth says they have been playing the "Hello" dance remix >on the radio there. Has anyone else heard this on their local radio >station??? > >-emily > > > - -- Robby Black robby@poe.org POE is at: www.poe.org & www.angry-psychos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:09:01 -0400 From: LORDBASTRD@aol.com Subject: Theirs no poe news so NPR Okay i've grown up a little in the past year so im not going to fly off the handle,But what the hell has been going on. I unsubscribe for 3 or 4 weeks and the list has gone to shit. Now I read that some people have been flamed or something. Censord? asked not to say certain things? whats up with that? I mean i've seen so many arguments start on hear almost routinly ridiculous ones like this is poe list don't say anything about jewel or manson etc. Get real people a list where all you do is talk just about poe get real. I mean theirs one post about poe on yahoo. That is not just what the angry-psycholist is about. We're supposed to be a family and thus we should be able to talk about other things especially when theirs no poe new at all I mean should everyone post in about poe in spin or some other small article in some magazine. Thats all their would be. Some of you may only be on the list just to find out poe info,but too other people this is a family,that means we share things we find exciting,things that have upset us,or opinions on certain things. If all this list is to you is just an info list well then find a newsletter or make a newsletter for everyone that just wants to get info and not have personal contact with people. I miss my fellow psychos and ask that you all return and start posting. Obviously thier is next to no poe news so that will mean we have to talk to eachother of course we should always try and keep it poe based,but strictly poe if all I wanted was just poe info I would just visit websites and check out the articles,and reviews etc. a strictly info poe list this is not. It's the angry psychos list that means us the angry psychos otherwise it would be called poe mailing list. We make up this list and have a write to post what we want thats what npr is for. I don't want anyone using that cheesy argument of taking that last line to the extreme and saying we can post racist,or vulgar post, duh obviously thats covered in the terms of joining the list whats acceptable if those guidlines are followed then post away. If you don't like the huge amount of mail delete npr,but the fact is this list has grown and thats progress it's time to leave smallville. well this is way long so i'll end it their miss all the psychos and wish you back. Lord Lonnie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:33:51 -0400 From: Robby Black Subject: POE pictures.. Well i was on the Alantic POE page and under her Bio they have to full size pictures of her old press stuff..One of the pics is the one on the poster the other is anohter pic of her..(imagine that!) :) take a look if you want... http://www.atlantic-records.com/Poe later, robby - -- Robby Black robby@poe.org POE is at: www.poe.org & www.angry-psychos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:05:02 -0500 From: Emily Subject: NPR: the circle of AP life OK I have been around for about 9 months now, and I have been noticing the cycles we seem to spin amongst ourselves. It's so predictable its funny (at least I think so). This is a little long, but I think worth reading. : ) THE STEPS 1. Someone makes some offhanded comment about something (lets say drugs for this example). I start cringing and get my finger warmed up on the delete key. 2. Someone else takes that as a que to give a 300 word essay about how *they* feel about drugs. 3. That starts the whole cascade, as 50 people feel the need to contribute to how they feel on the matter. The comments start out as fairly civil, but by the 3rd or 4th day begin to get nasty. People stop using NPR and then everyone else gets mad at those people for not using NPR. 4. At this point there are 30+ messages a day with "NPR: drugs" as the subject. The people who have been deleting all these NPR posts start saying "No more posts about drugs! Use private e-mail!" Noone listens. 5. The people who actually like the drug conversation start saying "How dare you tell me that I cant talk about whatever I want to on this Poe mailing list!" 6. Now insults really start flying. Then people get mad at the flamers and start flaming the flamers, saying things like "Im not flaming you, but you are a fucking jerk". 7. Amato is forced to remind everyone about the mailing list "rules" everyone was mailed when they joined. Noone listens to that either. 8. After about 1-2 more days of drug-related posts, the list dies down. 9. The level of posts drops down to about 10-15 per day, most of which are actually Poe related. The "deleters" breath a sigh of relief, but others who enjoy large loads of NPR emails begin to get restless. 10. People begin writing "What's up with the list? Why am I not getting 50 emails a day? I would rather read NPR email than no email at all." 11. The deleters counter with "My index finger has been enjoying its time-off from the delete key. Don't start all that NPR stuff again!" 12. The "censorship" debate goes on for awhile. The load rises to about 20 emails a day, half of which are giving their opinion on how much mail we should be getting each day. (this is about where we are right now) 13. About this time, someone will make an offhanded comment on vegitarianism or something, and the WHOLE CYCLE BEGINS AGAIN!!!! ~emily ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:41:25, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL) Subject: NPR: the circle of AP life >13. About this time, someone will make an offhanded comment on >vegitarianism or something, and the WHOLE CYCLE BEGINS AGAIN!!!! um, i'm not flaming you or anything, but i think vegetarian druggies are f'ing jerks! ;-) rose. ____ "so many idiots, too few comets..." - ------------------------------------- weeps4none@juno.com http://www.angelfire.com/ut/weeps4none - ------------------------------------- visit The Kobran Imperium BBS 1.801.265.1299 - ------------------------------------------------------------- "have i forgotten to flame someone today?" - ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:38:45 -0400 From: Ron Subject: NPR poll. If anyone remembers my little poll about the big NPR debate, here are the results. In the way of a disclaimer I didn't have a huge number of responses (sixteen total FYI). And now the numbers! Number of "I like NPR" votes: 15 Number of "I hate NPR" votes: 1 I know the numbers seem extreme, but I swear I am not making this up, if anyone doubts this I will be happy to forward copies of the actual sixteen emails I received. Also if anyone would like to add their vote on this issue (assuming you haven't already) I'll post the new results. In closing I do want to point out that most everyone that voted agreed that it is very important to use NPR in the subject line just as a matter of common courtesy. Also FYI about a third of the positive responses were of the "I like NPR posts, but some of the debates go on too long" variety, so do keep that in mind. There it is for what its worth... Ciao` ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 14:32:39 -0400 (EDT) From: GaulAiel@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: the circle of AP life In a message dated 97-09-14 11:23:12 EDT, eskitek@eagle.cc.ukans.edu writes: << 12. The "censorship" debate goes on for awhile. The load rises to about 20 emails a day, half of which are giving their opinion on how much mail we should be getting each day. (this is about where we are right now) 13. About this time, someone will make an offhanded comment on vegitarianism or something, and the WHOLE CYCLE BEGINS AGAIN!!!! ~emily >> 12b) somebody composes an email just like this one to let everyone know about the cycle we're in. Thanks for adding yet another twist to this cycle. ;) Gaul Aiel By the way... I don't believe in vegetarianism. Vegetarians are truly evil. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:36:28 -0700 From: "TyM@n" Subject: NPR: the circle of AP life - Vegetarians I think vegetarians smell funny. TyM@n Of the bOrg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 15:57:42 -0400 From: "DONALD S FELTNER JR" Subject: introduction Hi,my name is Don. I am 35,single and live in Phoenix. I first heard Poe on radio station KEDJ in Phoenix. I had to purchase the CD and have played the heck out of it. I saw Poe at a show at Gibson's. The Eels opened. The energy of the show was great. Poe even dived into the crowd. I would have loved to have been the person who caught her. Other artists I listen to are the Cranberries, Live and Veruca Salt. I also like Patty Rothberg,Fiona Apple and Leah Andreone. My e-mail address is BROOKS5@prodigy.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:33:22 -0400 From: LORDBASTRD@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: the circle of AP life HA HA HA HA HA Yeah you just gotta love our fellow psychos. I say again this is the angry-psychos mailing list not the poe mailing list. This is a mailing list not a News Letter. If NPR's are that bad for you unsubscribe for 2 or 3 days till the debate goes down obviously the cycles of these debates are so predictable. I've been on here for a long time and agree about the whole cycle thing I've seen someone say something started laughing your gonna get it or you'll be sorry. Ha Ha and sure enough the cycle begins. Now I agree Lots of people could respond privately,but sometimes some points have to be made public. Like this one maybe I should have responded privately,but I felt I needed to make this point to everyone. Anyways I love everything about psychos even the annoying stuff. I feel the list is just fine if some people just want poe info as I said before join a newsletter or create one. Although this list is about spreading word of poe it is not just a facts only of her it's a family of people called the angry psychos. Being a family means we don't all agree and thus their will be debates and arguments. Love all the psychos even those I don't agree with and although we may get hostile towards eachother on some subjects,never stop remembering that Love. Lord Lonnie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: John deBoer Subject: Yes. I'm back. Hey Angry people! How's it swinging here in psychoville? This is yr good buddy Twalen/Fleety/MonkeyMan, "The MonkeyMan angry psycho" as I am known by Poe, John as I am known to people in the boring old real world. Hiya all newcomers! So anyway I'm back from the e-mail dead, safely ensconsed in the world of Bard College (which is referenced in a Bob Dylan song, believe it......or not!), and disapppointed by the fact that there are no weird discussions, no completely un-Poe related flame wars, no silly nonsense, no gratuitous declarations of Psycho-love, no Ani Difranco and Jane Jensen and Alanis Morrisette and No Doubt news...in short, no mail! Come on, psychos, those are the reasons I love the list, not "Loung-a-palooza has been pushed back another month. The new date is December, 2003." That's boring. I like the human interest! Hmm...maybe we need another Battle of the Bands to get the psycho juices flowing. Well, anyway, it's great to be back. Talk to all you guys later. Twalen Fleety MonkeyMan "Peter, you have no concept of Quiet Hour, do you?"--Farley, my roommate, at approximately 3:00 AM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:31:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Flickergrl@aol.com Subject: Re: Yes. I'm back. In a message dated 9/15/97 2:25:15 AM, you wrote: >no gratuitous declarations >of Psycho-love, no Ani Difranco and Jane Jensen and Alanis Morrisette and >No Doubt news...in short, no mail! hi people in this lack of mail, i'd just like to ask everyone on AOL to do me a really big favor. jane jensen is really really cool, and um... she deserves a hella lot more recognition than she's getting, so maybe if we could set up a folder on the message boards for her. if everyone on AOL could go to keyword: MMC and do "request a folder" and request one for jane, that would rockalot. POE has one there in like "alternative general" or something. i would also like to take this time to say that school sucks. teachers are so dumb to assign stupid busy work. it's just pointless, and that is why i'm sitting home all sunday doing stupid work. oh. if anyone here is going to the Live concert at Coral Sky AMphitheater in West Palm Beach, FL on sept. 26 or Fiona apple at sunrise musical theater in sunrise, FL on october 4, e-mail me. and um yeah.. chris pappas, call me. i'm too lazy to write another e-mail. back to stupid US history. like i DON'T know about the stupid pilgrims coming to america on the mayflower. a real PSYCHO, ~*brette ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:55:03 PDT From: "Jess Gilwee" Subject: Re: NPR: the circle of AP life >7. Amato is forced to remind everyone about the mailing list "rules" >everyone was mailed when they joined. Noone listens to that either. Amato is also censoring stuff that doesn't need it. He is not letting simple things get on the list due to his petty indifferences. Take this into thought when you wonder "Why didn't my post get on the list?" Punk~Bitch JEss ***************** Surprise! Your're dead!!! haha ha Okay, Open your eyes!!! Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge I'm tryin no to lose my head ha ha ha It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from goin under - ---Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:06:49 PDT From: "Jess Gilwee" Subject: Re: Yes. I'm back. The list is Shit now....leave while you still aren't hurt by the cruel truth. Punk~Bitch >Hey Angry people! > >How's it swinging here in psychoville? This is yr good buddy >Twalen/Fleety/MonkeyMan, "The MonkeyMan angry psycho" as I am known by >Poe, John as I am known to people in the boring old real world. Hiya all >newcomers! >So anyway I'm back from the e-mail dead, safely ensconsed in the world >of Bard College (which is referenced in a Bob Dylan song, believe >it......or not!), and disapppointed >by the fact that there are no weird discussions, no completely >un-Poe related flame wars, no silly nonsense, no gratuitous declarations >of Psycho-love, no Ani Difranco and Jane Jensen and Alanis Morrisette and >No Doubt news...in short, no mail! Come on, psychos, those are the >reasons I love the list, not "Loung-a-palooza has been pushed back another >month. The new date is December, 2003." That's boring. I like the human >interest! > >Hmm...maybe we need another Battle of the Bands to get the psycho juices >flowing. > >Well, anyway, it's great to be back. Talk to all you guys later. > >Twalen >Fleety >MonkeyMan >"Peter, you have no concept of Quiet Hour, do you?"--Farley, my roommate, >at approximately 3:00 AM > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 23:00:36, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL) Subject: Re: NPR: the circle of AP life You Rock!! HAHAHAHA Punk~Bitch >>13. About this time, someone will make an offhanded comment on >>vegitarianism or something, and the WHOLE CYCLE BEGINS AGAIN!!!! > >um, i'm not flaming you or anything, but i think vegetarian druggies >are f'ing jerks! god, i love this list! lol - - rose. ____ "so many idiots, too few comets..." - ------------------------------------- weeps4none@juno.com http://www.angelfire.com/ut/weeps4none - ------------------------------------- visit The Kobran Imperium BBS 1.801.265.1299 - ------------------------------------------------------------- "have i forgotten to flame someone today?" - ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 23:47:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Flickergrl@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Yes. I'm back. In a message dated 9/15/97 3:31:00 AM, you wrote: >The list is Shit now....leave while you still aren't hurt by the cruel >truth. um. NO. that can not be farther from the truth. the list is not shit, hon. without this list, i wouldn't have met many many many many cool people. hell.. i wouldn't have even met POE. even if POE never ever made another album, and just faded away like well, ace of base or something... i would still be on this list. i would ALWAYS be an angry-psycho, and still stay here and chill in POE chat and talk to the angry-psychos 'cuz EVERYONE that i've met and talked to through this list IS THE BOMB!!! ok i'm like hyper and then exhausted and um.. ok. i'm in this odd mood right now. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i think i really am psycho ~*brette ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 00:02:06 -0400 (EDT) From: LORDBASTRD@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: the circle of AP life In a message dated 97-09-14 23:30:33 EDT, you write: << >7. Amato is forced to remind everyone about the mailing list "rules" >everyone was mailed when they joined. Noone listens to that either. Amato is also censoring stuff that doesn't need it. He is not letting simple things get on the list due to his petty indifferences. Take this into thought when you wonder "Why didn't my post get on the list?" Punk~Bitch JEss >> Is this true? say it is'nt so amato. Oh a sad day if censorship has reared its ugly head. This just totally bummed me out come to think of it I sent a post 3 hours ago and I don't see it paranoia is hitting hard. could I have been censored oh no please let this not be. How can i hold my head up high as a psycho and encourage others to join when I have to tell them be carefull and only talk poe or they won't post it. censorship oh this is sad sad sad I can't say anymore this just makes me sick. sad psycho lonnie ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V2 #307 ***********************************