From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V2 #240 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, July 15 1997 Volume 02 : Number 240 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ponder. [YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL)] people who hate NPR [Landon Beadle ] Re: chatroom [Landon Beadle ] Re: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) [Landon Beadle ] Poe Bootlegs?? [DawnE1@aol.com] NPR: replies [Brianna Thomas ] Re: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) [x-jiff-x@juno.com] Re: people who hate NPR [x-jiff-x@juno.com] Re: ponder. ["danradloff" ] The Psycho Survey [Wednesday ] RE: NPR: Another Psycho Survey ["COBB,KYLE" ] NPR: Rights ["PadmaT" ] RE: Grrrrrr... to GRRRRL!!!! ;-) ["PadmaT" ] RE: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) ["PadmaT" ] NPR: occult hair-splitting ["PadmaT" ] survey thing [Casey Hansen ] NPC: That Dog [Casey Hansen ] NPR: Contact, etc... (REPLY TO ME ONLY!) ["Lawrence J. Kim" ] NPR: my new fave movie for the survey. [Mandipoo@webtv.net (Mandi Hoffman] NPR: SEAP (Richmond) and the Whalers [Jason M Crawford ] Re: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) [Landon Beadle ] Re: NPR: Another Psycho Survey ["Jorrit Harssema" ] Re: NPR: Rights [Ron ] re NPR Another Psycho Survey ["Colin Alexander Eliot " ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:45:45, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL) Subject: Re: ponder. >queer songs?? excuse me?? What do you mean by queer songs?? Does that mean >that any guy that could be so nice and as sweet as the guy in that song would >have to be gay? do you enjoy making derogatory remarks?? Please do NOT say >something like that EVER again, not everyone on the list is as narrow minded >as you and uses that language, what do you call african americans?? What do >you call women?? uh, jez? not to annoy you or anything, but "queer" means "unusual." really! look it up! - - rose. ____ "so many idiots, too few comets..." - ------------------------------------- yeel96e@prodigy.com, 'cause juno f'ed-up my mail account somehow! - ------------------------------------- http://www.angelfire.com/ut/weeps4none "always under construction!" (please pardon the weak pages at angelfire - my awesome original site was wiped out in the great angelfire disk crash of '97) - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:55:34 -0500 From: Landon Beadle Subject: people who hate NPR weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell all the poe talking took place the first month... Then we got bored. Ya want info, go to the sites! read, study, you can find what you need. Most of us are content with talking among each other as a family. If you don't like NPR, sure, complain. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUT don't assume the majority is in your favor. I, as well as a lot of people, like the jokes and the chat. Yeah, you can say you don't appreciate the NPR stuff, but think about how you're saying it, so you don't get flamed, you don't flame anyone else, and no one fights. I remember a few people before who used to try and start "Revolutions" against certain people, for both doing non poe-related stuff, and just because no one knew each other so it was more of a this side or that side to this list. You were against these people, or against these people. Everyone was fighting, and pretty soon the people who started it quit the list. ALL I'm trying to say is, I'm seeing some people getting flames, I'm seeing some people sending flames or things close to flames, and if you're trying to label the entire list one thing, you're gonna be split off from a lot of the ap's who stick together as friends and family. This message isn't meant to any ONE person in particular, more to the people starting to say this list CAN'T have any non-poe related stuff, and the people who aren't quite getting the fact that we aren't just another list like most, we stick together, trust one another. YEEEEAH people won't agree with me, but pretty much everyone should at least agree to some of it, and be able to interpret it to what you do believe. Flame away, but I don't think it's deserving of flames. - -Landoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon "Remember, the Killer Robots are out to get YOU." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:00:40 -0500 From: Landon Beadle Subject: Re: chatroom I refuse to use EFFNET. buuuuut I'll use any other one. - -Landon, who has his reasons. "Remember, the Killer Robots are out to get YOU." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:59:45 -0500 From: Landon Beadle Subject: Re: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) x-jiff-x@juno.com wrote: >=20 > not to be more of an asshole than i am. BUT READ THAT DAMNED TITLE! > (for those about to reply to me: i know i did. so shut up.) >=20 > Daiv oh yeah I read it, I just didn't CARE... :=DE Nah, i took it as don't reply to chat about contact, I feel more than free to invite myself to defend a movie....=20 LA LA LA LA LA LA LA... "these youth have no respect for their elders, they never listen to a word they say..." huh, you say something? - -Landon, preparing to fight off those Killer Robots... "Remember, the Killer Robots are out to get YOU." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:13:02 +0100 (BST) From: Brianna Thomas Subject: survey 1. What is your all-time favorite movie? Gone with the wind... Braveheart a close second. 2. Who is your all-time favourite artist? My 6 year old nephew Cody... 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer? Anne Rice, Emily Bronte, and Robert Frost 4. Who is the world would you most like to see naked? My husband, who is in England right now. 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favourite fantasy involving Poe? umm... to become friends. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 02:26:50 -0400 (EDT) From: DawnE1@aol.com Subject: Poe Bootlegs?? I was wanting to know if any of you had some poe bootleg shows for sale? I'm looking for some that were taped this year or the end of last year. Also do any of you know what's up with Cameron?? He's been awfully quiet at the last few Poe concerts it seems. He's usually always out talking to fans, but he hasn't been recently. It's like he's hiding from everybody or something. I was just wondering if something was wrong or anything. I sure hope not cause he's really cool. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:20:56 +0100 (BST) From: Brianna Thomas Subject: NPR: replies Hi everyone, I don't know about anyone else, but I find it annoying when people include entire posts in their replies... or worse when, someone is replying to someone who has already replied to someone else who including the original post in their reply... okay, I'm confusing myself... :) Do you think we could try not to do this? or is it only me that gets sick of this :) Hufs, Brianna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:47:56 -0400 From: x-jiff-x@juno.com Subject: Re: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) and you're just an immature little fuck. (which is what someone i just finished chatting with said about you on the efnet...) - ----- Tugboat Annie - The Not-Quite Official Page http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~bj887/tugboat.htm On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:59:45 -0500 Landon Beadle writes: >x-jiff-x@juno.com wrote: >> >> not to be more of an asshole than i am. BUT READ THAT DAMNED TITLE! >> (for those about to reply to me: i know i did. so shut up.) >> >> Daiv > >oh yeah I read it, I just didn't CARE... :Þ Nah, i took it as don't >reply to chat about contact, I feel more than free to invite myself to >defend a movie.... > >LA LA LA LA LA LA LA... > >"these youth have no respect for their elders, they never listen to a >word they say..." > >huh, you say something? > >-Landon, preparing to fight off those Killer Robots... > >"Remember, the Killer Robots are out to get YOU." > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:45:10 -0400 From: x-jiff-x@juno.com Subject: Re: people who hate NPR npr is not bad, until the list is sending about 40 mails a day that have not a damned thing to do with poe... aps are a great idea, but many of the users are so immature about things they just keep posting more and more npr posts... anyone here want to start a separate mailing list, one about poe maybe? >who stick together as friends and family. This message isn't meant to >any ONE person in particular, more to the people starting to say this >list CAN'T have any non-poe related stuff, and the people who aren't >quite getting the fact that we aren't just another list like most, we >stick together, trust one another. that is a load of crap. everyone seems to not mind SOME NPR, but this list has NOTHING at all poe related most of the time... small tangents are okay, but when i feel like i am on a list discussing angry-chic singers, then i get fed up. Daiv - ----- Tugboat Annie - The Not-Quite Official Page http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~bj887/tugboat.htm On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:55:34 -0500 Landon Beadle writes: >weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell all >the >poe talking took place the first month... Then we got bored. Ya want >info, go to the sites! read, study, you can find what you need. Most >of >us are content with talking among each other as a family. > >If you don't like NPR, sure, complain. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUT don't assume >the >majority is in your favor. I, as well as a lot of people, like the >jokes >and the chat. Yeah, you can say you don't appreciate the NPR stuff, >but >think about how you're saying it, so you don't get flamed, you don't >flame anyone else, and no one fights. I remember a few people before >who >used to try and start "Revolutions" against certain people, for both >doing non poe-related stuff, and just because no one knew each other >so >it was more of a this side or that side to this list. You were against >these people, or against these people. Everyone was fighting, and >pretty >soon the people who started it quit the list. ALL I'm trying to say >is, >I'm seeing some people getting flames, I'm seeing some people sending >flames or things close to flames, and if you're trying to label the >entire list one thing, you're gonna be split off from a lot of the >ap's >who stick together as friends and family. This message isn't meant to >any ONE person in particular, more to the people starting to say this >list CAN'T have any non-poe related stuff, and the people who aren't >quite getting the fact that we aren't just another list like most, we >stick together, trust one another. > >YEEEEAH people won't agree with me, but pretty much everyone should at >least agree to some of it, and be able to interpret it to what you do >believe. Flame away, but I don't think it's deserving of flames. > >-Landoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon > > >"Remember, the Killer Robots are out to get YOU." > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:53:16 -0600 From: "danradloff" Subject: Re: ponder. Right on. I knew someone out there wasn't so uptight like that one girl. Thanks daiv. People need to loosen up - ---------- > From: x-jiff-x@juno.com > To: angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: ponder. > Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 9:58 PM > > > Queer used to mean something besides homosexual. and those songs all are > kind of odd, who today would write a song like "i want to hold your hand" > > Daiv (who hates gay rights getting taken too far. same with any > rights. espescailly people's.) > > ----- > Tugboat Annie - The Not-Quite Official Page > http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~bj887/tugboat.htm > > On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:47:20 -0400 (EDT) DahIia1@aol.com writes: > >queer songs?? excuse me?? What do you mean by queer songs?? Does that > >mean > >that any guy that could be so nice and as sweet as the guy in that > >song would > >have to be gay? do you enjoy making derogatory remarks?? Please do NOT > >say > >something like that EVER again, not everyone on the list is as narrow > >minded > >as you and uses that language, what do you call african americans?? > >What do > >you call women?? > > Jezebel > > > >In a message dated 97-07-14 15:50:19 EDT, danradloff@pcisys.net > >(danradloff) > >writes: > > > ><< > > No, that particular NiN song may not be comparable, but maybe > >"something i > > can never have" might be. It is a slow song about a girl that he > >can't > > have. I guess society is just more aggressive than they used to > >be.Queer > > little songs like i want to hold your hand have been replaced with i > >want > > to f**k you like an animal. > > > > "if i was twice the man i could be, i'd still be half of what you > >need." > > Dan. > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:21:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wednesday Subject: The Psycho Survey OK; here`s my entry 1. What is your all-time favorite movie? Um... let me see, let me see.. probably Shallow Grave. With The Crow coming in second 2. Who is your all-time favorite artist (painter, sculptor, etc.)? Salvador Dali definetely, definetely =) 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer (poet, novelist, etc.)? Novelist: Anne Rice, Poet(s): Edgar Allen Poe, Sylvia Plath, Rimbaud 4. Who in the world would you most like to see naked? I`d say Marilyn Manson, but I`ve already seen him naked, so..um, David Duchovny, then(the truth must be in there .. somewhere..) 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favorite fantasy involving Poe? I had a dream about this last night; Poe and I sitting on the kerb of a street in my town, talking. Cheers, AP`s, Lisa ******************************************************************** Lisa Golmen * aka. Wednesday/ * "-What the hell was that, Edgar? LisAngel * -Sugar. Morildveien 22 * -I ain`t never seen sugar N-6500 Kristiansund * do that." e-mail:teknikka@online.no * ***************************** * --------------------------------- ANTICHRIST * "Hey!Have you ever flashiethinged SUPERBITCH * me??" Always * http://www.Coca Cola.com/ * MEN IN BLACK * ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 8:15:00 -0400 From: "COBB,KYLE" Subject: RE: NPR: Another Psycho Survey Just for fun, the following five questions, to "profile" Angry Psychos: 1. What is your all-time favorite movie? Braveheart 2. Who is your all-time favorite artist (painter, sculptor, etc.)? Gustave Dore 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer (poet, novelist, etc.)? Spider Robinson (Callahan's Place series, Anne Rice (Vampire series) 4. Who in the world would you most like to see naked? Everyone...(No perverse sexual connotations intended) 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favorite fantasy involving Poe? Just getting to sit and chat with her again. See fantasies can come true!!! Pax, KyL ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 1997 07:36:58 -0600 From: "PadmaT" Subject: NPR: Rights Wow! The notion that anyone's rights are taken to far...startles me! We need more rights, not fewer (except where guns/other weapons are concerned). JMO. Padma _______________________________________________________________________________ Queer used to mean something besides homosexual. and those songs all are kind of odd, who today would write a song like "i want to hold your hand" Daiv (who hates gay rights getting taken too far. same with any rights. espescailly people's.) - ----- Tugboat Annie - The Not-Quite Official Page http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~bj887/tugboat.htm On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:47:20 -0400 (EDT) DahIia1@aol.com writes: >queer songs?? excuse me?? What do you mean by queer songs?? Does that >mean >that any guy that could be so nice and as sweet as the guy in that >song would >have to be gay? do you enjoy making derogatory remarks?? Please do NOT >say >something like that EVER again, not everyone on the list is as narrow >minded >as you and uses that language, what do you call african americans?? >What do >you call women?? > Jezebel > >In a message dated 97-07-14 15:50:19 EDT, danradloff@pcisys.net >(danradloff) >writes: > ><< > No, that particular NiN song may not be comparable, but maybe >"something i > can never have" might be. It is a slow song about a girl that he >can't > have. I guess society is just more aggressive than they used to >be.Queer > little songs like i want to hold your hand have been replaced with i >want > to f**k you like an animal. > > "if i was twice the man i could be, i'd still be half of what you >need." > Dan. > > >> > > - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.rmc.org with ADMIN;14 Jul 1997 22:47:40 -0600 Received: from jane.smoe.org (smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by shore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA27781; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA14509; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:46:25 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:46:21 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA14150; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:40:32 -0400 Received: from m20.boston.juno.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA14102; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:39:12 -0400 From: x-jiff-x@juno.com Received: (from x-jiff-x@juno.com) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id A^M03539; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:36:25 EDT To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:58:19 -0400 Subject: Re: ponder. Message-ID: <19970715.003458.10814.16.x-jiff-x@juno.com> References: <970714174452_1078781078@emout06.mail.aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-3,5-46 Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 1997 07:40:01 -0600 From: "PadmaT" Subject: RE: Grrrrrr... to GRRRRL!!!! ;-) Dear Daiv, Yawn. The fact is, Poe is no longer touring and is beginning work on her new CD. The fact that people continue to communicate, even if it's NPR, says something positive and wonderful about the cohesiveness of Poe's fans. You aren't required to read every message, you know. Take that chip from your shoulder and recycle it into something beneficial. Padma _______________________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:06:49, -0500 YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL) writes: >>You people > >huh? "you people?" LOL >we people who? the listmembers? people who disagree? womenkind? >appreciators of modern pop culture? the current icons of the >mainstream? could you please elaborate? duh. the people that are posting in the thread. >>need to stop with the angry chick thing. > >need... hmmmmm... i'm not jonesing yet - do i still have that need? no, see above. i don't check my mail for 60 hours, and i get 139 new messages. almost all from the ap's. almost none with ANY poe content. i don't mind little deviations from a topic, but this one has fucking shot off. just cut back on this shit a little bit. we angry-psychos, not angry-we-have-no-goddamned-attention-span-psychos. Pissed off Daiv (i won't even MENTION what else i was going to bitch about. someone whose a big NPR fan, and i'm not talking about the radio station, would get too pissed off in one day. then a new thread would need to start.) (also note, this is to noone specific. just every you people on this earth.) - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.rmc.org with ADMIN;14 Jul 1997 22:49:51 -0600 Received: from jane.smoe.org (daemon@smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by shore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA28244; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:48:16 - -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA14639; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:49:12 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:49:09 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA14128; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:40:12 -0400 Received: from m20.boston.juno.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA14071; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:38:45 -0400 From: x-jiff-x@juno.com Received: (from x-jiff-x@juno.com) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id A^D03539; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:36:24 EDT To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:30:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Grrrrrr... to GRRRRL!!!! ;-) Message-ID: <19970715.003458.10814.7.x-jiff-x@juno.com> References: <199707131906.PAA16834@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-17,22-25,28-29,31 Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 1997 07:47:36 -0600 From: "PadmaT" Subject: RE: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) And just how mature is calling someone "an immature little fuck"? Eh? _______________________________________________________________________________ and you're just an immature little fuck. (which is what someone i just finished chatting with said about you on the efnet...) - ----- Tugboat Annie - The Not-Quite Official Page http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~bj887/tugboat.htm On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:59:45 -0500 Landon Beadle writes: >x-jiff-x@juno.com wrote: >> >> not to be more of an asshole than i am. BUT READ THAT DAMNED TITLE! >> (for those about to reply to me: i know i did. so shut up.) >> >> Daiv > >oh yeah I read it, I just didn't CARE... :#222# Nah, i took it as don't >reply to chat about contact, I feel more than free to invite myself to >defend a movie.... > >LA LA LA LA LA LA LA... > >"these youth have no respect for their elders, they never listen to a >word they say..." > >huh, you say something? > >-Landon, preparing to fight off those Killer Robots... > >"Remember, the Killer Robots are out to get YOU." > - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.rmc.org with ADMIN;15 Jul 1997 01:56:11 -0600 Received: from jane.smoe.org (daemon@smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by shore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id DAA17430; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:54:40 - -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA18329; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:55:38 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:55:38 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA18236; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:52:01 -0400 Received: from m20.boston.juno.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA18220; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:51:42 -0400 From: x-jiff-x@juno.com Received: (from x-jiff-x@juno.com) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DOF03539; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:49:37 EDT To: jbeadle@execpc.com Cc: angry-psychos@smoe.org Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:47:56 -0400 Subject: Re: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) Message-ID: <19970715.034829.12470.2.x-jiff-x@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-7,9-31 Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam the Glad Fish Subject: Re: occult????? Hey folks. Occult means "secret" or "hidden". Though many cults claim occult knowledge the two are not synonomous A cult is *any* religion or equivalent system of beleifs that is not mainstream. That means that here in America Buddhism is a cult, Taoism is a cult, certain "variations" on Christianity are cults. In other countries, epecially Some smaller Asian ones, Christianity is a cult. It's all a matter of perspective. In Japan Shintoism is the most widely followed religion. Here it is a cult. Now about Poe and the AP's. There are definately fanatics here. Worshipers? Maybe a few confused individuals. Are the AP's a cult. Nope. Not by definition. It is possible to consider it occult though since still not very many people know about it... Zooey ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 1997 08:22:26 -0600 From: "PadmaT" Subject: NPR: occult hair-splitting Zooey's description below is the most lucid I've read thus far, but to split a few hairs, here's my own 3 cents. The primary definition of cult, according to Webster, is "a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies." This "larger" view certainly would include Christianity in all its forms--from the most popular (Catholicism) to the most obscure (Kareshism?)--as well as all other religions, both "major" and "minor", regardless of the location of the particular sects. Padma _______________________________________________________________________________ Hey folks. Occult means "secret" or "hidden". Though many cults claim occult knowledge the two are not synonomous A cult is *any* religion or equivalent system of beleifs that is not mainstream. That means that here in America Buddhism is a cult, Taoism is a cult, certain "variations" on Christianity are cults. In other countries, epecially Some smaller Asian ones, Christianity is a cult. It's all a matter of perspective. In Japan Shintoism is the most widely followed religion. Here it is a cult. Now about Poe and the AP's. There are definately fanatics here. Worshipers? Maybe a few confused individuals. Are the AP's a cult. Nope. Not by definition. It is possible to consider it occult though since still not very many people know about it... Zooey - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.rmc.org with ADMIN;15 Jul 1997 08:01:08 -0600 Received: from jane.smoe.org (daemon@smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by shore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA27807; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:59:45 - -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA21773; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:00:43 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:00:43 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA21683; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:55:43 -0400 Received: from europe.std.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA21676; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:55:33 -0400 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id JAA20915; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA01066; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:54:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam the Glad Fish To: poe news list Subject: Re: occult????? In-Reply-To: <199707142203.PAA04776@f37.hotmail.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:16:01 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: survey thing What is your all-time favorite movie? Pulp Fiction 2. Who is your all-time favourite artist? Salvadour Dali 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer? Emily Dickensen 4. Who is the world would you most like to see naked? That Girl on the Rupaul show, Michelle or something 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favourite fantasy involving It would envolve humidty and lots of ice cubes! Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:17:12 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: NPC: That Dog Hi, is anyone going to the That Dog show at the Roxy in Hollywood on Thursday, because I'm going alone and need someone to hang out with! Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:55:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lawrence J. Kim" Subject: NPR: Contact, etc... (REPLY TO ME ONLY!) On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Landon Beadle wrote: > oh yeah I read it, I just didn't CARE... :=DE Nah, i took it as don't > reply to chat about contact, I feel more than free to invite myself to > defend a movie....=20 I never said not to discuss the movie. I said we should NOT discuss this movie on the list! I have only received about 5 e-mails from people who gave me their opinions about the movie (thanks to all that follow my instructions). I figure that about 20 people would be interested in this movie--doing some math...4% of this list.=20 I would like to say I'm doing 96% of this list a favor by not discussing this movie on the list. That's less e-mail that fills up their mailbox and less they have to delete. I don't give a rat's ass about this Angry Chick/Marketing discussion. Yet, 50-60 e-mails a day fill up my mailbox about this subject. Is it so hard to create PRIVATE e-mail forums about a subject that maybe only 10% of the list has any interest in? I'm sick of writing about this subject... If you want to flame me...PRIVATE E-MAILs PRIVATE E-MAILs PRIVATE E-MAILs Thank you, Lawrence ************************************************************************* Lawrence Kim * PseudoSwede in the POE.ORG chatroom ljk1@cec.wustl.edu * Hobbe on IRC lawrence@poe.org * Co-MWAP Regional Leader (mwap@poe.org) Maintainer of POE : The Mistress of Groove http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~ljk1/poe.html ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 11:27:08 EDT From: Jason M Crawford Subject: Re: NPR: Another Psycho Survey 1. What is your all-time favorite movie? The Princess Bride ...bizarre- Koyanasqatsi 2. Who is your all-time favorite artist (painter, sculptor, etc.)? H.R. Giger and Monet > 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer (poet, novelist, etc.)? Author: R. A. Heinlein Poet: e.e. cummings 4. Who in the world would you most like to see naked? heck... i've been thinking about this too long... The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favorite fantasy involving Poe? Well, it was a lucid dream involving flying, breathing underwater, Poe and this talking dolphin named Ned. Best one yet. Sorrow@poe.org S0jmcraw@atlas.vcu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:46:05 -0400 From: Mandipoo@webtv.net (Mandi Hoffman) Subject: NPR: my new fave movie for the survey. Last night I saw THE BEST movie. So I would like to put it in my fave movie category for the survey. It is called "Over The Edge". Its a 70's movie about a bunch of hippie kids. I'm not going to reveal the rest. I URGE everybody to see this movie. Thats just another one of my humble opinions and nobody else will probably actually like the movie, but its worth a try. luv-n-stuff, Mandi "Anybody can piss on the floor, be a hero and shit on the ceiling." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 11:55:06 EDT From: Jason M Crawford Subject: NPR: SEAP (Richmond) and the Whalers Bob Marley's band - The Whalers will be playing in Richmond, VA on Wednesday, July 16, 1997 at Innsbrook After hours. I think things get underway at 5:00 p.m. and the cost is a mere $5 I couldn't see them the last time they were in town and evidently, I missed a hell of a show. If anyone is able to go, please do so. This should be a pretty groovin' show. Sorry for sending everyone else this little tidbit. More clutter. Jason Crawford Sorrow@poe.org S0jmcraw@atlas.vcu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:06:21 -0400 (EDT) From: TrigHapJac@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Another Psycho Survey hmm.well lets see 1. What is your all-time favorite movie? The Crow or Empire Records 2. Who is your all-time favorite artist (painter, sculptor, etc.)? don't really have a favorite :*( 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer (poet, novelist, etc.)? E. A. Poe or Mary Higgins Clark 4. Who in the world would you most like to see naked? ummm....i'd hve to say...either Trent Reznor or Eddie Vedder or Brandon Lee 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favorite fantasy involving Poe? to just hang out with her for the whole day talking to her and telling her stuff that no one else knows. Kristen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:13:29 -0400 From: zzmizutay@winthrop.edu Subject: evil cult Muhahaha!!! *CACKLES* Muhahahahahahahaha!!! *devilish cackles* Why that for? dunno, I'm just in the mood for it and I guess that skatevice's e-mail help it *evilgrin* Flyer PS: the *evilgrin* was dedicated to water-nimph :P ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:16:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Lura2000@aol.com Subject: 5 favorites movie: i dunno, i like basketball diaries, the father of the brides, and horror movies artist: myself (good one daiv), and van gogh, my room is done in monet author: william s. burroughs naked: sir billy corgan poe: she would come get me out of school and take me on tour. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:07:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Brianna Renee Faver Subject: Re: NPR: Another Psycho Survey > 1. What is your all-time favorite movie? Dangerous Liasons, followed by the Princess Bride and The Last Supper > 2. Who is your all-time favorite artist (painter, sculptor, etc.)? Mondel Rogers (Texas artist of the year like 10 years ago), Salvador Dali, and Georgia O'Keefe > 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer (poet, novelist, etc.)? Langston Hughes and Leo Tolstoy > 4. Who in the world would you most like to see naked? Dustin Johnson - guitarist for Social Murray, a Dallas band > 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favorite fantasy involving Poe? For her to see my art, and finally have someone who gets it. If she threw some cover art my way - added bonus. Isn't someone on the list doing cover art for the next album? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:17:43, -0500 From: BGBX10C@prodigy.com ( KATIE ZEGAR) Subject: survey 1. Scream 2. Monet 3. Author - Mary Higgins Clark, Stephen King, Peter Bencheley, Michael Crichton (can't decide) Poet - Edgar Allen Poe, William Butler Yeats 4. Can't decide 5. To go to a show and meet her backstage and become real good friends. ____ Katie Zegar katie@iconnect.net bgbx10c@prodigy.com Ruby382785@aol.com "And if you complain once more, you'll meet an army of me." -- Bjork, "Army of Me" "A hit is hard to resist and I never miss." -- Garbage, "Supervixen" "Don't you mess with a little girl's dream or she's liable to grow up mean." -- Poe, "Little Girl's Dream" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:40:55 -0500 From: Landon Beadle Subject: The Psycho Survey blah, i lied. #2 (fav painter, artist, scupltor) would have to be the guy who did aliens and all of that kewl stuff.... H.R. Giger - -Landon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:43:53 -0500 From: Landon Beadle Subject: Re: NPR: Contact (do NOT reply to this list) JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST so pplz know my reply was meant to be a JOKE, srry if it came out differently. - -Landooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:32:50 -0700 From: AngryTerry Subject: Re: NPR: Another Psycho Survey Allright! !I give. With no chatroom whats a psycho to do? > > 1. What is your all-time favorite movie? > 2001-A Space Oddyssey > > 2. Who is your all-time favorite artist (painter, sculptor, > etc.)? > Ray Lichtenstein (sp?) (the Kiss) > > 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer (poet, novelist, > etc.)? > George Orwell (1984) > > > 4. Who in the world would you most like to see naked? > Janet Reno-having sex with an animal,in the national Enquirer.I would > pay for this. > > > 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favorite fantasy involving > Poe? > After buying three machines,she signs onto Poeorg from my > house.Afterwards,telling me she is in love with me--- > Damn twenty word limit! Who came up with this anyway? > AT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 19:57:50 +0200 From: "Jorrit Harssema" Subject: Re: NPR: Another Psycho Survey 1. What is your all-time favorite movie? Trainspotting. Smoke was great too. 2. Who is your all-time favorite artist (painter, sculptor, etc.)? Don't know. I'm not really an art-lover, but if I have to make a choice: Herman Brood 3. Who is your all-time favorite writer (poet, novelist, etc.)? John Irving. 4. Who in the world would you most like to see naked? The Spice Girls 5. In twenty words or less, what is your favorite fantasy involving Poe? I'm not very ambitious. All I ask for is to see Poe live in the Netherlands. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:10:38 -0500 From: Joe Hay Subject: survey I like the survey, so I am going to make my own: 1. What is(are) your favorite instrument(s)? Me: Violin, Cello, Uillean Pipes 2. What place(s) in the world would you like to live the most? Me: British Columbia, Newfoundland, Norway (St. Louis right now) 3. What is (are) your favorite thing(s) to drink? Me: Plum Wine :) 4. Favorite style(s) of music besides rock(You know what I mean if it's not specifically rock)? Me: Celtic, Baroque 5. Favorite Quote. Homer Simpson (In a phony accent): Hello! My name is Mr. Burns. I believe you have a letter for me. Postal Worker: Okay Mr. Burns, I'll check. What is your first name? Homer: (Short Pause, still in phony accent) I don't know... This should be interesting, I hope... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:41:22 -0400 From: Ron Subject: Re: NPR: Rights In that equal rights are paramount you are correct. However when it is taken to the point of entitlements things can go to far. What I mean is that when trying to protect the rights of one group you infringe on the rights of another you've gone too far. PadmaT wrote: > > Wow! The notion that anyone's rights are taken to far...startles me! We need > more rights, not fewer (except where guns/other weapons are concerned). JMO. > > Padma > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:36:46 -0400 From: "Colin Alexander Eliot " Subject: re NPR Another Psycho Survey here's my revised list of answers- I sent the first ones into Padma, bit since people have been using multiple answers, I will too! 1. Movie: Highlander (the first one only). Also up there is Army of Darkness, Princess Bride, and 2010 2. Artist: Van Gogh, second is Per Bernal (a bodybuilding photographer) 3. Writer: Roger Zelanzny (especially the Amber novels), Arthur C Clarke 4. Naked Person: Cory Everson (6 time Ms Olympia- the greatest female bodybuilder ever) 5. Poe fantasy: Splitting a fifth of Jagermeister and beating the shit out of Gavin Rossdale and Jenny McCarthy while dancing around singing "Here comes your man" by the Pixies. (OK i wrote more than 20 words. sue me). enjoy! Colin Diesel@poe.org ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V2 #240 ***********************************