From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V2 #221 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, July 1 1997 Volume 02 : Number 221 Today's Subjects: ----------------- turtle's camp addy [turtle ] *NPR*: movies (was: Re: NPR: New Batman) ["angel" ] Re: Another Creaky AP ["Chris Ajello" ] Re: Another Creaky AP ["Ed Hurtley" ] Re: KPR: Face/Off ["TyM@n" ] Attn: Oregon AP's [Poncho of the Wolves ] NPR:TWO CHEERS FOR THE OLD GUYS and GALS [Greg Luhman ] in response to everyone [DahIia1@aol.com] RE: Another Creaky AP ["COBB,KYLE" ] in response to everyone [YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL)] Re: Another Creaky AP [Joe Hay ] Re: Another Creaky AP [Kerry Wano ] P.S. [Jarrod ] Poe in NY [Jonathan TenBrink ] Re: Another Creaky AP [Brianna Renee Faver ] Re: Another Creaky AP [Jonathan TenBrink ] Re: in response to everyone [John Beadle ] My own little version of the SLC event! [Manoah Piper ] Re: READ!!!!!!!! [Padre Fear ] AP - Related ---- Re: READ!!!!!!!! [Jarrod ] this whole directory thing [Joe Hay ] RE: this whole directory thing [Patrick Langley ] Re: NPR: Casual Sex [John Beadle ] Re: P.S. [radiof@pipeline.com] Re: AP - Related ---- Re: READ!!!!!!!! [Padre Fear ] Re: NPR: Casual Sex [Cocky ] Re: P.S. [J Myers ] Re: NPR: Casual Sex [YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL)] Re: P.S. [radiof@pipeline.com] Send Money and get FREE STUFF (oxymoron?) [radiof@pipeline.com] RE: NPR: Casual Sex [millerk@cport.com (Karen Miller)] Re: NPR: Casual Sex [Cocky ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 01:45:05 -0400 From: turtle Subject: turtle's camp addy hello fellow psychos, i know i'm still a "newbie" here, but...... i'm going to work at a camp from july4-9 then will go visit my sis for a while..... and will be computerless for probably 2 weeks.... if anyone wants to write, here's my camp addy: Blue Ridge Assembly Forest Hill Camp Melissa Crosby 84 Blue Ridge Circle Black Mountain NC 28711 thanks..... i will write back...... *ap love* turtle@poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 00:41:19 -0500 From: "angel" Subject: *NPR*: movies (was: Re: NPR: New Batman) Movie Reviews from Angel Iskel Sebert Batman sucked royally. One thing though: was it entirely serious? Because, if it was, it was terrible. Otherwise, it's kind of funny. I wasn't quite sure about that. ** 1/2 to *** Face off however was really great. I hate action movies but I loved that. **** hmm... other movies I've seen recently (while i'm on the subject) 5th Element is too sweet. I saw it twice but the second time was with my boyfriend so I didn't get to much watching done. (hehe) **** 1/2 Addicted to Love: way cool. about stalkage and obsession and love. It's the story of my life. Besides, Meg Ryan is way cool, and Mathew Broderick is SO CUTE!!! So's that french dude. **** The Lost World: if you ahaven't seen it yet, do. It wasn't so great but it's a classic. *** 1/2 MOVIES I HAVEN"T SEEN Chasing Amy: I was going to make my bf see it w/me but it's about a lesbian. But I want to see it. I give it **** Just because i want to. Con Air: my dad saw it, and didn't like it. **, just because of the Nicolas cage's name Men in Black: my and my bf are going to se it wen it comes out. I give it **** 1/2 b/c it looks super cool and Will Smith is way hot. My best friends wedding: Julia Roberts is da bomb. **** Buddy: uhhh, no. 1/2, because the gorilla is kind of cute Speed 2: Sandra Bullock is also da bomb. **** even tho Keanu would be so much better well that's all kids. not that you cared or anything, but... hey. I'm bored, it's late, and nobody reads NPR's anyway. love angel-cj angel@sd.cybernex.net * a_angel@rocketmail.com then a voice spoke in my head.. she said.. dark is not the opposite of light it is the abscence of light.. and I thought to myself.. she knows what she's talking about.. and for a moment I knew what it was all about namaste ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:04:41 +0100 From: Brianna Thomas Subject: Another Creaky AP i belong to the "old and creaky" faction of the APs (meaning those of us over 20 or so) and have many outside interests as well (blasphemy!). i mean, hey, i like the posies too, okay? :-) geez, where are the OTHER APs my age?? Hey Rose!! okay, okay, as much as I *hate* to admit it... I'm over 20 or so, 27 to be exact :) It use to bother me... til I found out how *young* POE is! Brianna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 00:23:10 -0700 From: "Chris Ajello" Subject: Re: Another Creaky AP I'm 19 going on 30-something... I feel like I'm one of the last of the nice guys generation. (you know, people with strong morals, like no chem dependancies, strict monogamy etc.....) BTW, just how young is poe? > i belong to the "old and creaky" faction of the APs (meaning those of > us over 20 or so) and have many outside interests as well > (blasphemy!). i mean, hey, i like the posies too, okay? :-) > > geez, where are the OTHER APs my age?? > > Hey Rose!! > > okay, okay, as much as I *hate* to admit it... I'm over 20 or so, 27 to be > exact :) It use to bother me... til I found out how *young* POE is! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 00:31:32 -0700 From: "Ed Hurtley" Subject: Re: Another Creaky AP > i belong to the "old and creaky" faction of the APs (meaning those of > us over 20 or so) and have many outside interests as well > (blasphemy!). i mean, hey, i like the posies too, okay? :-) > geez, where are the OTHER APs my age?? Well, I fall in that 20+ category. It's starting to bug me when I hear a song I like, and remember from a high school dance, then hear the DJ say "...and, in the middle of an oldies hour..." +===================================================+===========+ / It is not the function of our government to keep / Ed Hurtley \ / the citizen from falling into error ; it is the /===============\ / function of the citizen to keep the government / edh@inorbit.com \ / from falling into error. +========================/===================\ '==========================/ Justice Robert Jackson / hurtlee@pr.erau.edu \ '========================'======================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 00:52:04 -0700 From: "TyM@n" Subject: Re: KPR: Face/Off >There was an interesting tidbit in the movie "Face/Off". Sean Archer > >(John Travolta), as an FBI agent, just put Castor Troy (Nicolas Cage) > > and his brother into prison. They found a ZIP disk which belonged > >to Castor's brother. When they loaded it, there was a drawing of a > >well-endowed female with the name "Sabrina" (?). Sounds of an > >aroused female are playing in the background, then the screen flashes > >and says "I'm gonna blow you", flashes again and says "Away". > > > >In another scene, when a number is pressed on a keypad, little > >fireballs > >encircle the number. > > > >Of course, this had nothing to do with POE--I don't think John Woo is > > too much of a fan of American music, but I thought it was neat how > >coincidental it was. What is coincidental is that the people developing the Activision game Apocolypse to come out that stars Poe are also big fans of and basing part of the gameplay on John Woo...or so I've read. TyMan@Poe.Org (You've got a friend in the Org, well, more of a friend of a friend) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:59:47 -0700 From: Poncho of the Wolves Subject: Attn: Oregon AP's If any of you want to help out with some shirts for these = northwesterners over here and live somwhere near Salem, Oregon, then by = all means drop me a line!!! I work at Software Pipeline (starting = today) and these are my days and hours if someone wants to stop by: Tuesday, July 1st: 12 - 3 p.m. Wednesday, July 2nd: 3 - 6 p.m. Thursday, July 3rd: 3 - 8 p.m. By all means, stop by if you're an AP in the area!!!! ~jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 03:45:50 -0500 From: Greg Luhman Subject: NPR:TWO CHEERS FOR THE OLD GUYS and GALS Is this a young man/Woman's game? WHo cares Im 22 and making absolutly no sense. I remember when Metallica 1st hit the scene it was a glorious afternoon in yadayadyadayadayady ......I must regress we are not old we are young adults whatever the heck that means. Oh well stay young my grandma digs POE's music I'm not kidding. Age does not matter when it comes to music. LATER THIS WAS VERY SILLY greg luhman - -- Greg Luhman Has Found your mailbox Find Greg at gluhman@rrnet.com "I fear not tommorrow because I have seen yesterday and I live today." Tim Bowe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 07:43:13 -0400 (EDT) From: DahIia1@aol.com Subject: in response to everyone look, I've had it with sitting in the background, silver pepper never said that you HAD to give away personal stuff, I didn't, not even my pic, I was gonna, but I didn't. I just feel that you guys didn't care enough to give a f*ck, and silver pepper was willing to do this for US, and I'm not doingit to promote it, I'm doing this, so that one day, another AP comes along with a good idea, we'll follow through with it, it just seems the only stuff we're about right now is sh*t, we're not trying to BUILD a better group, but we think we ARE the best group, and that's never a good thing. I'm sorry if I'm pissing some of you off, or if you're shocked at my reaction right now, don't be, I'm NOT HAVING A GOOD WEEK. But why am I taking this out on you? Who knows. Jzebel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 7:35:00 -0400 From: "COBB,KYLE" Subject: RE: Another Creaky AP Hey just because our bodies age, our minds don't have to. Sleep all day... Party all night... Never grow old... Never Die... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:22:01, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL) Subject: in response to everyone um, along with the seperate joke list - could we have a seperate whine list, too? i'm happy and well-adjusted - really! - and STILL like poe... sheesh, maybe there should be a seperate happy and well- adjusted list... :-) rose. ____ "so many idiots, too few comets..." - ------------------------------------- weeps4none@juno.com leperinlove@juno.com - ------------------------------------- (i've discontinued the website, 'cause it's not fun anymore without ben around) - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 08:32:35 -0500 From: Joe Hay Subject: Re: Another Creaky AP Chris Ajello wrote: > I'm 19 going on 30-something... I feel like I'm one of the last of the > nice > guys generation. (you know, people with strong morals, like no chem > dependancies, strict monogamy etc.....) > > BTW, just how young is poe? > > I think she's 26? Don't worry! We're not fading. I'm 14 going on 30. I'm in the next generation of "Nice Guys". I may be young but everybody still yells at me for my incessant and stupid "rationality." Unfortunately, I'm all alone here. I hang around with the "mature" people of my age but they're all obnoxious so it doesn't really count. I also have the problem of being too responsible. And I like learning, too! And classical music! I'm a real freak! And to top it off: I don't do any drugs and I would prefer a relationship over casual sex! My God! I hope you can relate, Chris. Or anybody else on the list. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:26:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Kerry Wano Subject: Re: Another Creaky AP >>I feel like I'm one of the last of the nice guys >I'm in the next generation of "Nice Guys". >I hang around with the "mature" people of my age I also have the >problem of being too responsible. And I like learning, too! And classical >music! I'm a real freak! And to top it off: I don't do any drugs and I would >prefer a relationship over casual sex! My God! Oh, wow! There are others! I'm not alone! - ---------- The doors close slowly. Darkness seeps everywhere. Two eyes glow from beyond. Fear. DarkAngel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:36:12 -0700 (MST) From: Jarrod Subject: P.S. P.S. Have you sent any money in for the new hard drive for smoe.org? C'mon - 2 bucks. Thank You... Jarrod > AP LIST FUND > c/o Jim Myers > PO BOX 1053 > Cuyhaoga Falls, Ohio > 44223 -- POE chooses to be with us. The possibility of Angry-Psychos... "For us to be with POE." www.poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 13:39:46 -0400 From: Jonathan TenBrink Subject: Poe in NY Anyone know when Poe will do a concert in NY? Thanks Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:48:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Brianna Renee Faver Subject: Re: Another Creaky AP > > i belong to the "old and creaky" faction of the APs (meaning those of > > us over 20 or so) and have many outside interests as well > > (blasphemy!). i mean, hey, i like the posies too, okay? :-) > > > geez, where are the OTHER APs my age?? > > Well, I fall in that 20+ category. It's starting to bug me when I hear a > song I like, and remember from a high school dance, then hear the DJ say > "...and, in the middle of an oldies hour..." > > +===================================================+===========+ > / It is not the function of our government to keep / Ed Hurtley \ > / the citizen from falling into error ; it is the /===============\ > / function of the citizen to keep the government / edh@inorbit.com \ > / from falling into error. +========================/===================\ > '==========================/ Justice Robert Jackson / hurtlee@pr.erau.edu \ > '========================'======================= > My favorite is when you are driving down the road singing along and suddenly you remember that you used to go skating to that song. I can remember when Reflex by Duran Duran was one of my favorites. Scary stuff. Bri ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 13:45:41 -0400 From: Jonathan TenBrink Subject: Re: Another Creaky AP Brianna Thomas wrote: > > i belong to the "old and creaky" faction of the APs (meaning those of > us over 20 or so) and have many outside interests as well > (blasphemy!). i mean, hey, i like the posies too, okay? :-) > > geez, where are the OTHER APs my age?? > > > Hey Rose!! > > okay, okay, as much as I *hate* to admit it... I'm over 20 or so, 27 to be > exact :) It use to bother me... til I found out how *young* POE is! > > Brianna I'm new to the group.... How old is Poe? BTW, I am about to turn 23 a week from today... Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 13:07:18 -0500 From: John Beadle Subject: Re: in response to everyone why can't everyone saying this go against the ppl who didn't do it instead of all of us? AND no one is screaming about the ppl who never post, what'd that be, a little over 400? it was a kewl idea to do the directory, I sent the e-mail, ne1 who saw it going on has no excuse besides they don't want to be known, just to read the mail about poe, and they shouldn't be flamed. BUUUUUUUT who cares, flame everyone. - -Landon, sick of getting mail not directed to him but still saying he's some lazy person who doesn't care enuff to do sumthin he did ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:56:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Manoah Piper Subject: My own little version of the SLC event! We're all so devoted to Poe, it's insane!!! Well, It all started with some e-mail correspondence and Angry Terry "assuming" he could invite anyone he wanted to fill the space in my car (I'm exagerating that a bit but it's an inside joke). Before I knew it the car was set to be full and the planning went into motion. Tyman, Angry Terry, Clint, "K"ristina(heheh..another inside joke) and Myself were all going to squeeze into my Nissan Altima and hold our breath 'til we got to SLC. The excitement put us all on a "natural high" I'm sure. Both Kristina and Clint arrived at the airport on the 19th and rode one of the fancy airport busses to Terry's house(hey, this is LA and picking someone up at the airport is almost suicide). In addition to the SLC show we had all planned on a night to remember at the Largo venue in LA. That night Andy Prieboy(2nd lead singer for Wall of Voodoo.....trust me it's a good show) was the main attraction and we all('cept Kristina the coke addict...heheh...."the other coke") got completely blasted and thoroughly enjoyed the show! If I recall correctly TyM@n drove us home but I honestly don't remember....I guess it could have been me....who knows...heheh. The next day I unfortunately had to work and that's never fun after a no-holds-barred evening. Somehow I made it through the day and TyM@n and I headed for Terry's house. Traffic was unbelieveable and it wasn't long before I was on the mobile phone with Terry attempting to find a detour around a huge accident on the 5 frwy. Well...to make a VERY long story short, Ty and I took the scenic route through downtown LA, missed the exit we were supposed to get off at and listened to Terry and Laura(Terry's wife) argue on the mobile phone and place bets concerning the time we might actually arrive at there house. Before we knew it a 40 minute drive became a 2 hour expedition to hell and we arrived at Terry's house 2 minutes short of his wagered time and he lost the bet to Laura. Word of advice: NEVER GAMBLE WITH YOUR WIFE. Everyone quickly got their things together and we all squashed into the car. As I recall noone wanted to sit on the hump in the backseat and so we threw Kristina into the trunk....heheh....no, actually I believe Kristina mumbled something about "always have to sit in the middle" and we soon found ourselves flying down the frwy heading towards our "destiny". It was soon pitch black outside and about the only thing you could do was attempt to fall asleep, that is if you weren't driving. Kristina actually slept on the floor(Don't ask) and I passed out with my legs up in the air for a good portion of the trip......if hell is in a car, we have all experienced it! Somehow we all survived the the trip to SLC and soon found ourselves knocking on the doors of our fellow AP clan....this was 4:00am and I don't think anyone was even remotely conscious but somebody finally opened the door to the hotel room and we all crashed on the floor('cept for TyM@n who thought it would be cool to chug down a bottle of Mega-Jolt and OD on caffeine. He just kinda lied there in a daze staring at the ceiling. I recall feeling sorry for him just prior to passing out....poor guy). And then it was morning.......... Part 2 coming soon to a theater near you cHiLe chile@poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:55:57 -0500 (EST) From: Padre Fear Subject: Re: READ!!!!!!!! Who cares about the AP directory. I didn't want my name on some list. That is why I never bothered to even think about it. Everytime I got a message about the "AP Directory", I deleted it without even looking at it. That is probably the reason there were very few entries for it. People just don't care! Padre On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 DahIia1@aol.com wrote: > oh my god, you guys suck, you know that?? you couldn't be bothered to do > this??? I was really looking forward to the AP Directory, I don'ty know why > you guys couldn't be and wouldn't be bothered to even notice what it was. > My 2cents > Jezebel > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:32:36 -0700 (MST) From: Jarrod Subject: AP - Related ---- Re: READ!!!!!!!! On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Padre Fear wrote: > People just don't care! > Padre No shit... Who will break the mold? Jarrod @poe.org P.S. Silver Pepper Girl - You have more drive and vision at 11 than I did. Good for you. > > On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 DahIia1@aol.com wrote: > > > oh my god, you guys suck, you know that?? you couldn't be bothered to do > > this??? I was really looking forward to the AP Directory, I don'ty know why > > you guys couldn't be and wouldn't be bothered to even notice what it was. > > My 2cents > > Jezebel > > > > > -- POE chooses to be with us. The possibility of Angry-Psychos... "For us to be with POE." www.poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 15:28:10 -0500 From: Joe Hay Subject: this whole directory thing We should stop flaming everybody. Most of the people who did nothing with the directory were simply not interested with it, and we should respect that. Do not attack everyone on the list for a decision that was very obviously opinion related. Attackers do have a right, however, to flame the people who considered signing up for the directory and then decided not to because there were only a handfull of people who did. These are the people that do need to be disciplined into self-confidence, but not the people who simply avoided it because they were not interested. Think of Ross Perot. Remember him? The person who everybody would mention by saying: Oh, I'd vote for him but no one else is; I'd just be throwing my vote away. A massive amount of people thought that way. Now, I personally don't agree with Ross Perot's ideas and did not support him, but if all of those people who voted for Clinton or Dole/Bush but liked Perot had voted Perot would have made it to the electoral college if he did not win the entire election. This might have happened with the AP Directory. I know it's difficult to sort out the people who had the Ross Perot Supporter mentality, if they exist at all, so lets just drop the whole issue. D'accord? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:48:24 -0500 From: Patrick Langley Subject: RE: this whole directory thing Actually I sent my info in for the AP directory in addition to voting for Perot twice(didn't send him any money though). Remember, if you do nothing, nothing gets done. I guess for some people it's just easier to criticize after the fact, or even worse just be a voyeur. Hey, how did I get up here on this soapbox? Jarrod, I think she has more drive than most of us(me included)...wonder if that's a function of my age(I'm x3)? OOOOOCCCCCHHHH!!!!!! I pulled a muscle typing,(oh my back, my back). Anyone got any bengay for an old, creaky AP. Have you kids been hiding my walker again too? Remember, youth and energy is no match for experience and sneakiness. I now go to send some $$$ for the new hardrive. See how easy it is to participate. - -----Original Message----- From: Joe Hay [SMTP:kyodyken@primary.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 1997 3:28 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: this whole directory thing We should stop flaming everybody. Most of the people who did nothing with the directory were simply not interested with it, and we should respect that. Do not attack everyone on the list for a decision that was very obviously opinion related. Attackers do have a right, however, to flame the people who considered signing up for the directory and then decided not to because there were only a handfull of people who did. These are the people that do need to be disciplined into self-confidence, but not the people who simply avoided it because they were not interested. Think of Ross Perot. Remember him? The person who everybody would mention by saying: Oh, I'd vote for him but no one else is; I'd just be throwing my vote away. A massive amount of people thought that way. Now, I personally don't agree with Ross Perot's ideas and did not support him, but if all of those people who voted for Clinton or Dole/Bush but liked Perot had voted Perot would have made it to the electoral college if he did not win the entire election. This might have happened with the AP Directory. I know it's difficult to sort out the people who had the Ross Perot Supporter mentality, if they exist at all, so lets just drop the whole issue. D'accord? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:16:04 -0400 From: Greg Luhman Subject: Re: NPC: a lot of stuff pertaing to poe.org though! Erik J. Hartley wrote: > > okay.... a few things... first off.... my current email addy at > dk386@freenet.carleton.ca is being eliminated due to lack of funds > at ncf... so, i'm going back to eh108896@oak.cats.ohiou.edu.... if > it's at all possible, can my ej@poe.org addy and ap mailing list > addy be changed to that address? i will do the unsubscribe, > resubscribe thing if i have to, but i have no idea how to do the > ej@poe.org transfer.... anthony or jarrod... please help me out with > this one! > > and in other news.... > > a whole lot of stuff has happened in the past six months in my > life.... and thankfully.... the angry psychos have kept me from > going insane.... our love of poe brought us all together, and > eventually led to something more.... a caring for each other.... a > caring far deeper than any "online fan club" i've ever known.... the > aps are somewhat a FAMILY.... and i know i've used that word a lot > in describing you guys, but it's the truth... without you, my life > would be very very different.... > > and now, there are so many arguements, and so much controversy and > so many rumors being spread.... i can't take much more.... there's > all this "behind the back" talking, and a lot of accusations.... and > the poe.org family, is turning into seperate factions.... i know i'm > partly to blame, but.... i'm trying to bring us all back > together.... to go in and see some of my best friends at each > other's throats in a chatroom over a very trivial matter.... it > really upsets me.... we're a family.... we have disagreements.... > but... we also all care for each other.... we should be able to > resolve our differences.... and stop bickering.... > > and why am I always the one who gets the finger turned toward > himself???? > > i've never been so deeply hurt in all of my life as i am right > now.... i feel as though my ap family is starting to turn out being > just like my real world family.... accusing me of all their > wrongdoings to find an easy way out.... and i'm sorry, but i'm not > gonna be a dumping grounf for your crap my entire life.... my real > family causes me enough crap like that.... > > i'm NOT saying it's anyone's fault, i'm not accusing anyone of > anything.... i just want everything to be peacible again... and > everyone to get along and stop playing childish games... unless > you're a child... then, i gice you full permission to play childish > games :o) > > if you have any questions in what i mean by all of this, please > respond.... if you think i'm a real jerk or a freak.... feel free to > flame me, i don't care anymore at this point.... i'm starting to > really lose faith in some of my ap family.... and i thought i would > be able to count on you guys forever..... > > "Get well soon....." > > ej Hello, Nice post I agree with you 1000%. I have a theory why the group has deviated from it's initial purpose. Right now POE our reason for being here is not very busy. (If people on this list are getting info on POE and not passing it on to the rest of us the list has failed I don't think this is the case.) I am sure she is busy herself but she is not giving us much to discuss. POE has not played many live shows lately she is staring in a video game that very few of us have access to or are getting information about. So we discuss other things such as NPRs KPRs EPRs and the like. I have a very firm belief that when a new album comes out and a new tour begins or when poe's game is released the group will center itself very quickly. I have found that I have to wade through a lot of crap to get the good stuff out of this group and I beleive it is well worth it. That is my $1.50 THANKYOU, GREG LUHMAN - -- Greg Luhman Has Found your mailbox Find Greg at gluhman@rrnet.com "I fear not tommorrow because I have seen yesterday and I live today." Tim Bowe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 20:20:03 -0400 From: "PadmaT" Subject: NPR: Casual Sex Joe wrote: I would prefer a relationship over casual sex! Casual sex is boring. Relationships are far more interesting because, if for no other reason, they are more complex, have greater depth, and the sex is much, much better once you "learn" your partner. Casual sex is "Go Fish"; relationships are Chess. Casual sex is Maxwell House; relationships are Sumatra Mandheling. Casual sex is Budweiser; relationships are Guiness Stout. Casual sex is riding a golf cart; relationships are a hike in the Rocky Mountains. Casual sex is instant gratification; relationships are fulfilling. Casual sex is nothing more than masturbation with a human vibrator. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 19:38:25 -0500 From: John Beadle Subject: Re: NPR: Casual Sex hay, don't bash GO FISH.... go fish kicks chess's ass. (chutes and ladders and candyland beat GO FISH tho...) - -Landon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 20:39:18 +0000 From: radiof@pipeline.com Subject: Re: P.S. Ok anybody sending $20 for the harddrive will get a FREE POE t-SHIRT!I will pay for the shipping of the t-shirt.. (limited to the first 6 people? maybe more i dont know.. ) > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:36:12 -0700 (MST) > From: Jarrod > Reply-to: Jarrod > To: Angry-Psychos > Subject: P.S. > > > P.S. Have you sent any money in for the new hard drive for smoe.org? > C'mon - 2 bucks. > > Thank You... Jarrod > > > AP LIST FUND > > c/o Jim Myers > > PO BOX 1053 > > Cuyhaoga Falls, Ohio > > 44223 > > > -- POE chooses to be with us. > > The possibility of Angry-Psychos... > "For us to be ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:49:51 -0500 (EST) From: Padre Fear Subject: Re: AP - Related ---- Re: READ!!!!!!!! Look, I don't care who the hell you are, Jarrod, don't flame me in front of the list. I said what was on my mind, and that is that. Respect me, and I will have respect for you! On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Jarrod wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Padre Fear wrote: > > > People just don't care! > > Padre > > No shit... Who will break the mold? > > > Jarrod > @poe.org > > > P.S. Silver Pepper Girl - You have more drive and vision at 11 than I > did. Good for you. > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 DahIia1@aol.com wrote: > > > > > oh my god, you guys suck, you know that?? you couldn't be bothered to do > > > this??? I was really looking forward to the AP Directory, I don'ty know why > > > you guys couldn't be and wouldn't be bothered to even notice what it was. > > > My 2cents > > > Jezebel > > > > > > > > > > > > -- POE chooses to be with us. > > The possibility of Angry-Psychos... > "For us to be with POE." > > www.poe.org > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 17:57:36 -0700 From: Cocky Subject: Re: NPR: Casual Sex Casual sex is boring, but chance encounters of the passionite kind with a new lover send tingles of power and lightning bolts of nevous excitement through the my body. They are the greatest form of excitement. Finding out what a new lover enjoys, wonderig where i can touch, how far is too far and what are the limits set by society. These i explore as often as possible because in the game of life... Sex is the only game we will never fully understand and one we play better and better as we get older... I guess what im saying is that i disagree a relationship is necessary to have deep fullfilling sex. I do agree that sexual partners get better as they learn each others bodies, which in essesnce is sorm of a relationship. I ask you this, if relationships are so fullfilling why do so many cheat for the purpose of sex........ Cocky=AE as usual ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 21:31:19 -0400 From: J Myers Subject: Re: P.S. Now this rocks!!!...;) Thanks Radio Free!!.... Jim Myers radiof@pipeline.com wrote: > Ok anybody sending $20 for the harddrive will get a FREE POE > t-SHIRT!I will pay for the shipping of the t-shirt.. (limited > to the first 6 people? maybe more i dont know.. ) > > > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:36:12 -0700 (MST) > > From: Jarrod > > Reply-to: Jarrod > > To: Angry-Psychos > > Subject: P.S. > > > > > > > P.S. Have you sent any money in for the new hard drive for > smoe.org? > > C'mon - 2 bucks. > > > > Thank You... Jarrod > > > > > AP LIST FUND > > > c/o Jim Myers > > > PO BOX 1053 > > > Cuyhaoga Falls, Ohio > > > 44223 > > > > > > -- POE chooses to be with us. > > > > The possibility of Angry-Psychos... > > "For us to be ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:06:01, -0500 From: YEEL96E@prodigy.com (R HILL) Subject: Re: NPR: Casual Sex >Casual sex is boring, but chance encounters of the passionite kind with >a new lover send tingles of power and lightning bolts of nevous >excitement through the my body. They are the greatest form of >excitement. Finding out what a new lover enjoys, wonderig where i can >touch, how far is too far and what are the limits set by society. These >i explore as often as possible because in the game of life... Sex is >the only game we will never fully understand and one we play better and >better as we get older... > I guess what im saying is that i disagree a relationship is >necessary to have deep fullfilling sex. I do agree that sexual partners >get better as they learn each others bodies, which in essesnce is sorm >of a relationship. > I ask you this, if relationships are so fullfilling why do so many >cheat for the purpose of sex........ > Cocky=AE as usual because, dear cocky, it's a quick and easy substitute for commitment. because it's easier to say, "do this to me, here and here, ungh, ungh, yesssssss..." than it is to say, "i understand you and your needs, i'll be with you no matter what, come hell or high water." consider the challenge and creativity of making your existing relationship a "new lover" each time. consider that perhaps the newness and erotic awareness must start with one person - yourself, perhaps - and then spread into the incredible energy we know as lovemaking. i have never been bored, nor has my lover. i pity the person who has to continually seek new flesh because he/she can't create a new scenario... >a new lover send tingles of *power* ...perhaps this says it all... :-) just minor musings from experience. - rose. ____ "so many idiots, too few comets..." - ------------------------------------- weeps4none@juno.com - ------------------------------------- http://www.angelfire.com/ut/weeps4none "always under construction!" - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:47:10 +0000 From: radiof@pipeline.com Subject: Re: P.S. should we make it cheaper? or maybe i will radom pick 5-6 people to send the shirt too? maybe that will better? > Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 21:31:19 -0400 > From: J Myers > To: radiof@pipeline.com > Cc: angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: P.S. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:55:12 +0000 From: radiof@pipeline.com Subject: Send Money and get FREE STUFF (oxymoron?) Send money Win/Get a shirt... I will pay for the postage/shirt/patches/so that is my donation. Atleast 5 shirts will be given away maybe more. How to get one 1. Donate $20 (maybe less i am not sure but that is a good amount) 2. Somebody will pick some people from the list of donors to get a free shirt. 3. ALL donors will get a Free Patch. AP LIST FUND ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:15:36 -0700 From: millerk@cport.com (Karen Miller) Subject: RE: NPR: Casual Sex casual sex is good and bad sometimes ti can thrill you other times it is = so boring. but why are you to speak of such thing? holly - ---------- From: Cocky[SMTP:Nationwide@psnw.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 1997 5:57 PM To: PadmaT; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR: Casual Sex Casual sex is boring, but chance encounters of the passionite kind with a new lover send tingles of power and lightning bolts of nevous excitement through the my body. They are the greatest form of excitement. Finding out what a new lover enjoys, wonderig where i can touch, how far is too far and what are the limits set by society. These i explore as often as possible because in the game of life... Sex is the only game we will never fully understand and one we play better and better as we get older... I guess what im saying is that i disagree a relationship is necessary to have deep fullfilling sex. I do agree that sexual partners get better as they learn each others bodies, which in essesnce is sorm of a relationship. I ask you this, if relationships are so fullfilling why do so many cheat for the purpose of sex........ Cocky=AE as usual ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 19:48:41 -0700 From: Cocky Subject: Re: NPR: Casual Sex R HILL wrote: > >Casual sex is boring, but chance encounters of the passionite kind > with > >a new lover send tingles of power and lightning bolts of nevous > >excitement through the my body. They are the greatest form of > >excitement. Finding out what a new lover enjoys, wonderig where i > can > >touch, how far is too far and what are the limits set by society. > These > >i explore as often as possible because in the game of life... Sex > is > >the only game we will never fully understand and one we play better > and > >better as we get older... > > I guess what im saying is that i disagree a relationship is > >necessary to have deep fullfilling sex. I do agree that sexual > partners > >get better as they learn each others bodies, which in essesnce is > sorm > >of a relationship. > > I ask you this, if relationships are so fullfilling why do so > many > >cheat for the purpose of sex........ > > Cocky=3DAE as usual You have avoided the first and most important point these people who cheat are already committed. That is how we come to term their extra-marital "cheating". The reason why people cheat is becasue they are not recieving something from their lover. May it be sexual or not. I am not one for one night stands but i do live and feel the moment new lovers touch, that something special that is unrivaled. That time that a man a woman meet for the first time. There are many first times in our lives and often they are the best. This happens to be one of those things. The challenge to make you lover a new lover each time is unhealthy. It suggests an underlying need to be with anyone but your lover. On occasion it is fun to play roles but if that is the totality of your sexual relationship perhaps you should seek help. The implication that erotic awareness starts with oneself is partial correct. Sex is the combination of many senses, all of which feed information to the main sexual organ, the mind. Erotic ideas start with the mind and can be exponetially increased when shared with a lover... =2E I know it wasn't you intention to sound like you were talking down to me, however if you look at it from my side it seems that you have. I have a stong background inhuman relations and sexual encounters, both in education in college and subsequent work. Power in sex... Denial of any of the emotions causes problems and guilt. Power is part of sex, the power to give pleasure, the power to tease to please. Many forms of power, why does it always have to be associated with negative fellings.. Put my 2 cents on my visa card... Cocky=AE > because, dear cocky, it's a quick and easy substitute for commitment. > because it's easier to say, "do this to me, here and here, ungh, ungh, > > yesssssss..." than it is to say, "i understand you and your needs, > i'll be with you no matter what, come hell or high water." > > consider the challenge and creativity of making your existing > relationship a "new lover" each time. consider that perhaps the > newness and erotic awareness must start with one person - yourself, > perhaps - and then spread into the incredible energy we know as > lovemaking. > > i have never been bored, nor has my lover. i pity the person who has > to continually seek new flesh because he/she can't create a new > scenario... > > >a new lover send tingles of *power* > > ...perhaps this says it all... > > :-) just minor musings from experience. > - rose. > > ____ > > "so many idiots, too few comets..." > ------------------------------------- > weeps4none@juno.com > ------------------------------------- > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/weeps4none > "always under construction!" > ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V2 #221 ***********************************