From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V2 #203 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, June 15 1997 Volume 02 : Number 203 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR: APs on religion [| xero | cloud9 | ] Re: NPR: APs on religion [proudwolf@linknet.net] [Fwd: Re: Goodby] [John Beadle ] (Fwd) BOUNCE angry-psychos@smoe.org: Non-member submission ["Anthony ] Re: [Fwd: Re: Goodby] [radiof@pipeline.com] lauchepolooza ["Marc de Jong" ] Re: lauchepolooza [radiof@pipeline.com] what about drugs? [Morpheus ] Re: Goodby This is what I hafta say to Sam...I'll except all PRIVATE flaming [Angel4159@ao] Re: Goodby This is what I hafta say to Sam...I'll except all PRIVATE flaming [olivia@rivne] POE and Drugs... :::Re::: what about drugs? [Jarrod ] [none] [Jennifer Wilhelm ] ack! [John Beadle ] Re: VERY IMPORTANT [Casey Hansen ] Re: lauchepolooza [Hell Cat ] family ["Jason Helton" ] THE WEB, Jewel on the cover with POE [radiof@pipeline.com] Re: Server Repair [Jezebel144@aol.com] People leaving [Jezebel144@aol.com] Re: Server Repair [J Myers ] Re: People leaving [Flickergrl@aol.com] chatroom oddness [Flickergrl@aol.com] NEAP Trip [SFPooh@aol.com] Poe in The Web mag ["Matt Ramella" ] [not entirely poe realated] my NICE responce to flames [Angel4159@aol.com] Re: NEAP Trip [Nihasa9@aol.com] npr: flames / people leaving [silver pepper <73214.1142@compuserve.com>] Re: Goodby This is what I hafta say to Sam...I'll except all PRIVATE flaming [Padre Fear Subject: Re: NPR: APs on religion hey... i was mearly making a mental note.. jsut kinda wanting to know some things.. anyway... i was also curious about poe's idealisms... anyway.. you are probably right about this religion thing but if people would jsut open their mind no one would have a prob discussing religion... sorry that i had to bring it up i guess... i jsut thought we would be able to discuss something like this on a fairly open level... thanks for all those who responded... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 16:17:48 +1000 From: | xero | cloud9 | Subject: Re: response to padre on APs&religion actually... like i was saying.. it wasn't really to start a little public debate... if you all didn't hear correctly i was asking about poe's beliefs... if that is not to be considered genuine poe inquiry than i don't know what would be... i really wasn't trying to drag up old time worn issues... but... there have been worse requests for discussions here... at least mine was a legitimate question regarding poe... sorry if you guys missed that part of my q... x-ero-x ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 00:35:34 -0700 From: Cocky Subject: List Again and again have i read the rantings of many people who don't post and then post to let us know that they are leaving the list. It usually goes something like this... "Hi i dont post much but, wah wah wah blah you guys dont talk about poe enough, blah blah imature blah steve blaw wah. I dont have time to read the mail however i found time to craft this letter blah wah instead of just quiting." If you dont post your only form of communication is to read until your fed up enough to quit. Ask questions, make friends because if poe didn't release another and didn't play another concert i would still be onn this list. Now i got might get flamed but that has never stopped me before if you all remember my first post. The people i have met on this list are way more important to me Poe is, perhaps that is becasue i know them bet ter. I have slept in the same room with them and laughed the night away. Talked about the same subjects i do with my closest friends. I dont read mosts of the posts but i do not complain because perhaps they mean something to someone else. Peace, Cocky=AE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 03:50:52 -0500 From: proudwolf@linknet.net Subject: Re: NPR: APs on religion At 02:25 PM 6/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >Okay, you people are really starting to BUG ME! (I know I said yesterday >that I haven't flamed anyone yet, and I will try to refrain from doing so >today!) This is not the FORUM to discuss religion, but it is the forum >to discuss everything else but that?!?!?! I said what I had to say about >god before I got to Emily's post about not responding to it. Emily's >post did not really bother me. It was "proudwolf"s post that really made >me angry. Since when has a discussion been stopped on something before >it started? I don't believe anyone stopped the smoking debate; it just >kind of died out. I know this is starting to sound really, really >bitchy, but really people, how can you judge what can and cannot be said >on this mailing list. >Please forward all flames towards jsalber@indiana.edu. Thank you! >Jeff Hello? Was I taking part in any of the other debates? If I did, I can't recollect it. I simply pointed out that of all topics, religion is one that NEVER "just dies out". People get offended. I think enough people have been offended on the list as of late. I am of the open minded sort. I would love to discuss theology until I'm blue in the face. I just think that on this list, it would do more harm than good. Yes, Xero's question on Poe's beliefs was very appropriate. I just knew that others would take the ball and run with it well after the question was answered. I like being an AP and it would really hurt if someone were to flame me for my beliefs and say that they thought my kind should still be burned at the stake. I'm not saying someone would, but APLove can be strong... but so can AP Hate. Just ask Steve. Proudwolf ** Never again the burning times ** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 08:45:42 -0400 From: John Beadle Subject: [Fwd: Re: Goodby] flame away at me, but I thought this might mean something to those wanting to unsubscribe and not post. srry if I sound cold in it, I'm not trying to be. Message-ID: <33A22CF1.13FF@execpc.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 00:32:33 -0500 From: John Beadle X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SamIAm555@aol.com Subject: Re: Goodby References: <199706140523.BAA19353@jane.smoe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well, the way I see it, I was the 6th person who joined this list. At first it was all poe. By 30 people we thought it was great and still discussing poe. by 80, only about 40 were still posting. We talked of poe, but started to incoperate other things. Now, a lot of us know each other, we aren't afraid to turn to each other for help, and people are joining every day. We've passed the 400 mark, and there are still only about 80 people posting ever, and only about 50 regularly. We've talked about poe, we talk about poe, we always will, but there isn't alwayz a lot to discuss, and out of 80, usually there are people with stuff happening in their lives, and we help them out. If u weren't on, I was ready to kill myself last week. A lot of people mailed me and kept me alive and sane. IF you want to learn about poe, read articles, goto our pages, and stay on the list. If you think the list shouldn't involve people as human beings, and we should all be emotionless people who talk about the same thing all the time, then leave. THIS LIST is a family for a lot of people, and I'm getting sick of people saying it sucks and is pointless. Sometimes, the only thing to really discuss is things somewhat related to poe, like the steve guy (which wasn't meant as a huge conversation, and died in 2 days). So if you think this is a waste of time, fine, leave. But Poe herself thinks the psychos ROCK, and we've learned to deal with each other, not just idle conversation. Bye. - -Landon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 08:44:40 -0800 From: "Anthony Amato" Subject: (Fwd) BOUNCE angry-psychos@smoe.org: Non-member submission >From kit@poe.org Sat Jun 14 01:52:53 1997 Received: from kit by castles.com From: Kitana To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Good Bye This is my Fare Well. It has been wonderful being on the Poe mailing list. Maybe one day I will return. Untill then, LuV always, and Peace out. Kitana ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 08:45:31 +0000 From: radiof@pipeline.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Goodby] I do not know.. I like Poe and all, but how much can you write about her? I think if people want to write about something other then POE it is alright. And also most of the non Poe messages are about Music so that is good. well any seeya. But if it is not about POE but NRP in it so people can sorta there mail. ok bye ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 15:03:18 +0200 From: "Marc de Jong" Subject: lauchepolooza Hi all, Does anyone know of the launchepolooza-cd (sp?) is out now and who are on it? I've heard pj harvey, fun lovin' criminals (i'm not in love) and of course POE are on it. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:16:03 +0000 From: radiof@pipeline.com Subject: Re: lauchepolooza I cant spell the the name of the cd but it is like Loudgeapolooza. It is coming out in a few monthes it been delayed that is what the people at Hollywood records lasted time i talked to them. but they said they will be sending me a tape of it soon, so i can tell you what is on it when i get it. Also ALL bands except POE are doing covers and making them loudge style while Poe is doing a Jazz song her brother wrote. Well it should be here soon so i will post a update in a few days.. seeya NYC 88.1FM VCWP Tuesday 6pm-8pm Long island > Hi all, > > Does ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:43:54 -0700 From: Morpheus Subject: what about drugs? Ok.. I've been an inductee AP for 2 days now.. hope this dosen't kick up dust... (like that religion thing) First off I need to admit my ignorance. Untill recently I havent been a very devout AP. So much in fact that I don't even know if Poe is her first name, last, Nickname etc'!! (Im so ashamed). Anyway..reguardless her music is cool and she is beautiful so I punched her up on the web one day and viola' here I am. So without beating around the bush to make myself sound all PC and shit (can I say shit?? :) Whats POE's take on drugs. Does she do any. I don't think I could be conviced that there is a total lack of AP's that partake here and there. Something tells me that if she dose it would be about the coolest to sit down with her and smoke out!! - -- Ask not what you can do for your country, Ask what your country did to you - -KMFDM If you wont to be loved; Love and be lovable - -Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:09:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Angel4159@aol.com Subject: Re: Goodby This is what I hafta say to Sam...I'll except all PRIVATE flaming Hey Sam, I've been an Angry-Psycho on-and-off for about three months now. We do support Poe and that is the ONLY reason we are so angry about this"idiot Steve". Did you even see what he wrote??? IF Poe was your fave band which they obviously aren't because you won't even talk to her best friends for a week or be committed enough as we are to support her like his then fine, GET THE HELL OFF THE LIST! Sianara buddy, you're the ignorant one here. But, if you wanna be sensitive to a bad day, week, month, whatever... to support an awsome band w/ a great lead singer, that you, as well as 500 other people love, then stay and do the main thing this list is for: SUPPORT POE! You're (no offense) acting like all of those other RETARDS who quit. They were scared to stand up for what they loved, and then critisised (<----- did I spell that right ?) us about it. So, all in all, if you wanna be a lame-assed coward and not want to make new friends as well as get a whole lot of privlages and early info, etc... Then I PITY you. I'm not forcing you to leave because I'm sure you were in a mean dumb-assed mood and already did. I'm not trying to be mean, believe it or not, but I'm showing you the impression you are leaving on me and 500 other people and its not a good one. It is saying the you are for one, a non-comitted coward who won't stand up for what he wants.You probly don't know me cause you [obviously want us to think] you pay no attention to how commited we are to Poe and what we would do to support her, so My name is Jessie, I am ten [I'll be eleven in 29 days and counting] and I live in Jax.,Fl. This is pretty pitiful, but this is as nice as I know how to sum it up to. In my opinion and I'm sure others', This is all true, so ponder your self to sleep on it or something. We are a family, and you just helped break a bond that we [would have] loved to have. Leave, get off, you're not welcome n/e more. Thanx for helping us out and seeing if you could get even try to be nice aand get to know somebody, ya bastard!!! You ARE a bastard and I hope that you know that. My Opinions, Jessie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:57:18 -0400 From: olivia@rivnet.net Subject: Re: Goodby This is what I hafta say to Sam...I'll except all PRIVATE flaming IMHO, what Steve said in no way warranted all the abuse he received. Geez, no wonder this is such a fucked up world. Furthermore, Jessie, who are you to tell someone to get off the list? Or to call someone ignorant? Or tell someone they are acting like a retard? (Last I heard, it wasn't a crime to be retarded. In fact, I'm sure no one chooses to be born that way.) From what I just read, if in fact you really are ten (I wonder why you even made that an issue?) then you are the one who should be pitied. Ok, maybe "anger is a gift", but you seem to have your share and everyone else's too. I had to laugh when you said "I'm not trying to be mean." cos I can see that comes naturally to you. Another thing; don't speak for me. You said Sam was leaving a bad impression on 500 some people... (I'm on the list, so I assume you're including me) and Sam didn't leave a bad impression on me. You did! You call this a family? Well if this is your idea of family, I guess I can understand why you seem to be such a messed up individual. Why don't you just concentrate on your spelling, dearie, and quit being so mean. And what is it with all the name calling? You have really pissed me off, little girl. Hmmm... you'll accept private flaming? Did you flame Sam privately? You get what you give. That said, have at it. Olivia Angel4159@aol.com wrote: > > Hey Sam, I've been an Angry-Psycho on-and-off for about three months now. We > do support Poe and that is the ONLY reason we are so angry about this"idiot > Steve". Did you even see what he wrote??? IF Poe was your fave band which > they obviously aren't because you won't even talk to her best friends for a > week or be committed enough as we are to support her like his then fine, GET > THE HELL OFF THE LIST! > Sianara buddy, you're the ignorant one here. But, if you wanna be sensitive > to a bad day, week, month, whatever... to support an awsome band w/ a great > lead singer, that you, as well as 500 other people love, then stay and do the > main thing this list is for: SUPPORT POE! You're (no offense) acting like > all of those other RETARDS who quit. They were scared to stand up for what > they loved, and then critisised (<----- did I spell that right ?) us about > it. So, all in all, if you wanna be a lame-assed coward and not want to make > new friends as well as get a whole lot of privlages and early info, etc... > Then I PITY you. I'm not forcing you to leave because I'm sure you were in a > mean dumb-assed mood and already did. I'm not trying to be mean, believe it > or not, but I'm showing you the impression you are leaving on me and 500 > other people and its not a good one. It is saying the you are for one, a > non-comitted coward who won't stand up for what he wants.You probly don't > know me cause you [obviously want us to think] you pay no attention to how > commited we are to Poe and what we would do to support her, so My name is > Jessie, I am ten [I'll be eleven in 29 days and counting] and I live in > Jax.,Fl. This is pretty pitiful, but this is as nice as I know how to sum it > up to. In my opinion and I'm sure others', This is all true, so ponder your > self to sleep on it or something. We are a family, and you just helped break > a bond that we [would have] loved to have. Leave, get off, you're not welcome > n/e more. Thanx for helping us out and seeing if you could get even try to be > nice aand get to know somebody, ya bastard!!! You ARE a bastard and I hope > that you know that. > > My Opinions, > Jessie - -- "You know, every time I move ~ I make a woman's movement" ~ Ani DiFranco | Hour Follows Hour ~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:10:21 -0700 (MST) From: Jarrod Subject: POE and Drugs... :::Re::: what about drugs? Greetings... I have known POE for almost two years. I can tell you that drugs are far from a priority in her life. She is very involved in her business and her art. To take drugs would surely hinder that progression (my opinion). When I did know her to partake in drugs use, it was pot. Even when I saw that happen, she lipped the joint and faked it (kind of like being 14 and wanting to smoke so everybody thinks you are cool - fake inhale). She did justify that pot smoke is a lot worse for you than cigerattes (tar, etc). That may be true... Either way, it coats your lungs with shit and puts a bunch of poisons in your blood stream. POE is too involved in life to check out with drugs. I may be way off base, but she is too smart to take drugs (especially "heavy" drugs). As I see it, you have to be intelligent enough to know when to stop. The intelligence to choose good vs. bad. Especially known "bad" (like drugs). (You determine the line, a byproduct of being human). ***************************** KNOW THIS ***************************** - - The above discussion is based on illegal drugs. - - I have only seen POE smoke pot ONCE and that was over a year ago. So don't run to her and say "Jarrod says you smoke Pot!" (Please don't threaten my honesty and knowledge...) - - I would love to laugh the night away with POE and some "GREAT" Weed. Since I can barely afford "OK" Beer. This isn't going to happen. On that note, I am 27 and the notion of sitting around Baked is pretty boring. When it was college... I was a chimney. Take Care Jarrod coughing@poe.org P.S. At this time next week I will be in Utah searching for APs and POE. Yeah! On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Morpheus wrote: > Ok.. I've been an inductee AP for 2 days now.. hope this dosen't kick > up dust... (like that religion thing) > > First off I need to admit my ignorance. Untill recently I havent been a > very devout AP. So much in fact that I don't even know if Poe is her > first name, last, Nickname etc'!! (Im so ashamed). Anyway..reguardless > her music is cool and she is beautiful so I punched her up on the web > one day and viola' here I am. > > So without beating around the bush to make myself sound all PC and shit > (can I say shit?? :) Whats POE's take on drugs. Does she do any. I don't > think I could be conviced that there is a total lack of AP's that > partake here and there. Something tells me that if she dose it would be > about the coolest to sit down with her and smoke out!! > > > -- > Ask not what you can do for your country, Ask what your country did to > you > -KMFDM > > If you wont to be loved; Love and be lovable > -Benjamin Franklin > -- POE chooses to be with us. The possibility of Angry-Psychos... "For us to be with POE." www.poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 12:57:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Jennifer Wilhelm Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 12:11:27 -0500 From: John Beadle Subject: ack! c'mon ppls, let's not insult ppl now. If they want to leave the list, u can try to stop them but let them do what they want. Insults start wars, *ahem* some of the old ap's might remember my whole T-SHIRT/being called someone trying to rip off poe incident? :P LEt's not start the "who hates this person" deal. - -Landon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:34:35 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT I don't get it, why do Hackers feel they must right the wrongs of the world? I think they should jus leave is as is and let peoples privacy to themsleves, even in Vengence mistakes can be made, and AOL people are not doing it to people personally, they are just big choads and can't design a working program for a lot of people Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:19:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Hell Cat Subject: Re: lauchepolooza On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 radiof@pipeline.com wrote: > I cant spell the the name of the cd but it is like Loudgeapolooza. It It's loungeapalooza... you know as in lounge music :) - -kitty who aspires to be the greatest lounge singer who ever lived Visit the Scratching Post of a confessed Hell Cat. http://www.hooked.net/~badkitty/ And don't forget to ask Miss Kitty... http://www.hooked.net/~badkitty/ask.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 15:38:18 +0000 From: "Jason Helton" Subject: family hehe hate my happiness AP Love!!! *hugs* to all my psycho friends Newbies: reply to me only if you care... hehe I love you guys Jason "Had they but courage equal to desire" - W B Yeats Mithrandir (Jason) Faust the BeastMinion jhelton@vt.edu eldorado@poe.org AP LOVE!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 15:42:55 +0000 From: radiof@pipeline.com Subject: THE WEB, Jewel on the cover with POE Not sure if anybody said this, but POE is in the July Issue of THE WEB, the web page migth be this www.webmagazine.com or something like that.. She mentions the angry psychos, and stuff.. also mention my Shirt thing at the Grammys.. Well it was not a 1000 shirts it was about 40 and then i was told to stop... seeya NYC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 16:58:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jezebel144@aol.com Subject: Re: Server Repair How are we to know that this is not just someone just trying to get money? i never said it was but how would we know. I'll be hapy to send money as soon as im sure its going to the right place Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:12:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Jezebel144@aol.com Subject: People leaving It seems like all our fignting and bickering has actually got us somewhere!!! Its weeding out the unworthy AP's that are obviously not dedicated to POE or us enough to try to stick with us and try to work things out. Its ok guys-leave i don't mind. I've probally been here longer then you have and we did alright before you came i think we'll do alright without you again. Lisa Flame me go ahead it will just prove my point. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:49:55 -0400 From: J Myers Subject: Re: Server Repair Jezebel144@aol.com wrote: > > How are we to know that this is not just someone just trying to get money? > i never said it was but how would we know. I'll be hapy to send money as > soon as im sure its going to the right place > Lisa I urge you to inquire... ask Jarrod..... ask Amato.....Emily, Tony, etc.etc. ask anyone that has had any dealings with me.... Once my credibility is established send money ;) And, if you doubt the credibilty of the person who hosts our list. Look at our list. It is here, and has been. This is the person that runs smoe.org, Jeff Wasilko. C-ya Jim Myers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:58:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Flickergrl@aol.com Subject: Re: People leaving hola! everyone has been so worked up about people leaving and stuff... but think about it. alot of people on this list are college and high school age (and some younger than that) alot of the college people might be leaving to go home for the summer, and might not have computers there.. also, some unfortunate people are being forced to go to sleepaway camps for long periods of time and will have no computer access there, and have no access to the outside world and will have to live in cabins with dorks and have no air conditioning and big showers with hot water and privacy, and will have to resort to snail mail which takes soooo long. so what i'm trying to say is that i'm leaving for camp next saturday and you can write me there at: ( i will be there from JUNE 21st - AUGUST 1) brette meyers camp nashoba north 198 raymond hill rd. raymond, ME 04071 write to me because i love mail that isn't from my parents, and my friends from here don't write to me because they are losers. but i'm not leaving yet. i'm leaving next saturday. i just want to post this now because lots of people are leaving now. have a great summer if you are leaving. :) ~*brette ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 18:23:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Flickergrl@aol.com Subject: chatroom oddness hola! has anyone noticed that when you do an = sign in the chatroom it comes out like a , comma? and a semi colon ; sign comes out like a + why is that? that's weeeeeeird man! heehee. A-Ps rule! ~*brette, who is bored, and who met POE finally, and who is leaving for camp next saturday ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 18:25:26 -0400 (EDT) From: SFPooh@aol.com Subject: NEAP Trip Hey Everybody, I just read Cleo's post and was just thinking about how we should organize a day where all NEAP's & any other AP's could go to Darien Lake for the Day and hang out. It would be fun, relatively inexpensive, and a lot of fun! Just a thought... let me know what you guys think...especially you Robby....I would be willing to organize or help organize it. Thanx APLuv Shawn shawn@poe.org sfpooh@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:10:12 -0400 From: "Matt Ramella" Subject: Poe in The Web mag Hey everyone, just responding to the post about Poe being in The Web magazine along with Jewel! I happened to see it today at Chapters (poe is one of the smaller pictures on the front) and the feature is about how the internet is influencing an artist's popularity and spreading music quicker. Poe talks about The Angry Psychos and... well that's about all she talks about! Her whole interview is in reference to us. AND www.poe.org is listed as her site. She discussed her contact with us, our influence on the internet, at the shows, etc... Mentioned the t-shirts and the regional coordinators. It is a very impressive article and is great exposure. Poe really shows her love and devotion for our group. If someone can buy a copy and post Poe's paragraph, you'll see what I mean. cyah all later, Matt ............................................................................ ............................................... "I like to remember things my own way, not necessarily the way they happened." Fred Madison - Lost Highway MATT RAMELLA Box #245 81 St. Mary Street Toronto, ON M5S 1J4 mramella@wiznet.ca (416) 964-9295 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:27:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Angel4159@aol.com Subject: [not entirely poe realated] my NICE responce to flames Dear my fellow APs, I screwed up with my earlier opinions, ok? I got the point in my many NON-PRIVATE flames and hate-mail. I didn't want to burden people with flames towards me and not them. For all you people who don't think before you act, I didn't force him off the list... he was already off! Yup, I actualy did think before I acted on that e-mail. I was trying to stick up for you guys in telling him that the Steve thing was about Poe. I was telling him to give us another chance, and telling him what he would be missing. Some ppl even talked down to me for my spelling, age and n/e other flaws that I had as well. To make you guys happy, I'll stop being nice. I'll stop saying people [like Steve] suck for hating Poe. I'll stop sticking up for you. So, you guys can keep talking about how Steve didn't deserve all he got. You can let people like Sam give us a bad reputation and keep saying how bad of ppl we are. You can also stop saying that being mean comes natural. You can just straight forward tell me you want me off the list. If you guys can be a little more sensative to how far I'd go to stick up for you all, Then I won't leave. I know our opinions differ on various things but when it comes to Poe and my falling-apart-family, I would believe it or not, go alot further than the ppl thwho flamed me for doing so. I guess some of you are just non self confident and would rather yell at someone for sticking up for them rather than thank them. I'm cool with that, but if you are going to be somethign I would dare to call another AP, than yes, my kindness and sincerity as we know it is over. My last kind words [since I probly will participate less] = Brette and all you other summer-camp-strucken-psychos,make the best of it. Love ya despite all the hatred towards me, Jessie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:53:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Nihasa9@aol.com Subject: Re: NEAP Trip Where is Darian Lake? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 22:42:53 -0400 From: silver pepper <73214.1142@compuserve.com> Subject: npr: flames / people leaving ATTENTION: This is a different kind of post! I think this will sum-up a lot of things... This is not the first time we've discussed religion on this list.= = We've also discussed suicide, smoking, meat-eating, AP seniority, and lot= s of other things that have become roaring debates, etc. And wether there are 100 or 400 APs, the same thing has always happened, and will always happen. For those of you who are new to the li= st (or whatever), and don't know what that is, I'll tell you: lots of people= start acting funky and do lots of things. Such as: Some people get offended and leave. (Yes, that is normal behavior around= here.) Some people post about how they've "been here from the begining bla bla bla...", and how they aren't going to leave because they're not pussy-wipped like everyone else, bla bla bla. Some people post about how they just wish it would stop, and beg people t= o stop fighting bla bla bla. But no matter what people say or do, those same things happen eve= ry time. NO MATTER WHAT. People get pissed off, and say things, some leave= , then it's over and we're back to normal AP life, untill the next thing brews up. Personally, I've been on this list, going through this process fo= r 9 months now, I've been involved in alomst every single debate, and I've only been flamed one time, by one person. Finished. I guess my point is that you shouldn't be surprised when people leave, and don't get so worked up every time something happens. It's actually a good sign. It means that the APs are alive, and that the "Circle of AP Life" is continuing and prospering. e-mail me privatly with questions, comments, or suggestions: Love you, guys! silver pepper girl Editor-In-Cheif of the Ultimate AP Directory = ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 22:42:43 -0500 (EST) From: Padre Fear Subject: Re: Goodby This is what I hafta say to Sam...I'll except all PRIVATE flaming Someone is irrate! Who is "Sam" anyway? On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 Angel4159@aol.com wrote: > Hey Sam, I've been an Angry-Psycho on-and-off for about three months now. We > do support Poe and that is the ONLY reason we are so angry about this"idiot > Steve". Did you even see what he wrote??? IF Poe was your fave band which > they obviously aren't because you won't even talk to her best friends for a > week or be committed enough as we are to support her like his then fine, GET > THE HELL OFF THE LIST! > Sianara buddy, you're the ignorant one here. But, if you wanna be sensitive > to a bad day, week, month, whatever... to support an awsome band w/ a great > lead singer, that you, as well as 500 other people love, then stay and do the > main thing this list is for: SUPPORT POE! You're (no offense) acting like > all of those other RETARDS who quit. They were scared to stand up for what > they loved, and then critisised (<----- did I spell that right ?) us about > it. So, all in all, if you wanna be a lame-assed coward and not want to make > new friends as well as get a whole lot of privlages and early info, etc... > Then I PITY you. I'm not forcing you to leave because I'm sure you were in a > mean dumb-assed mood and already did. I'm not trying to be mean, believe it > or not, but I'm showing you the impression you are leaving on me and 500 > other people and its not a good one. It is saying the you are for one, a > non-comitted coward who won't stand up for what he wants.You probly don't > know me cause you [obviously want us to think] you pay no attention to how > commited we are to Poe and what we would do to support her, so My name is > Jessie, I am ten [I'll be eleven in 29 days and counting] and I live in > Jax.,Fl. This is pretty pitiful, but this is as nice as I know how to sum it > up to. In my opinion and I'm sure others', This is all true, so ponder your > self to sleep on it or something. We are a family, and you just helped break > a bond that we [would have] loved to have. Leave, get off, you're not welcome > n/e more. Thanx for helping us out and seeing if you could get even try to be > nice aand get to know somebody, ya bastard!!! You ARE a bastard and I hope > that you know that. > > My Opinions, > Jessie > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:20:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dlphinlove@aol.com Subject: Re: Goodby This is what I hafta say to Sam... That wasn't very nice at all. If someone wants to leave, let them. There's not much need to beat them down. Come on guys, we're better than this. Now everyone smile!!! Jodi ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V2 #203 ***********************************