From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V2 #197 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Wednesday, June 11 1997 Volume 02 : Number 197 Today's Subjects: ----------------- EJ's dispair [Emily ] I'm back [earthcrosservs@juno.com (Jill )] I saw No Doubt tonite [Emily ] Re: NEW MEMBER INTRO ["Shaun P. Orton" ] AP's ["Shaun P. Orton" ] Liz ["Shaun P. Orton" ] Re: this is me [Jono4st@aol.com] my friend gordon (phlash)'s serial: ["* Richards, Leigh" ] NPR: Just read it (List related) ["Allan Grimm (The Reaper)" ] Re: Poe vs Phair feud [GabriKn@aol.com] Re: The Real: Poe vs. Liz [carri l goodridge ] flaming [Rick Masters ] Quotes [Brigette Anne ] Re: AP's [Joe Hay ] A million pardons [express@kih.net (express)] Lyza is SuperDumb ["Lyza Gardner" ] ORIGINAL PERSON WITH A PROBLEM WITH STEVE!!!!!READ!!!! [MAME19@aol.com] ME AGAIN [MAME19@aol.com] Re: ORIGINAL PERSON WITH A PROBLEM WITH STEVE!!!!!READ!!!! ["Lawrence J. ] NPR Childish and I Know and Love it ["CockyŽ" ] Re: NPR Childish and I Know and Love it ["Allan Grimm (The Reaper)" ] poe's new album ["Jessica Gilwee" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:31:30 -0500 From: Emily Subject: EJ's dispair aw common EJ, we're just having some fun here. noone is debating on whether liz sucks or not, we are merely commenting on what a jerk this steve guy was to Magan. noone is really gonna do anything terrible to the guy, we are just showing our support to our fellow APs and Poe by conjuring up fun punishments (what about a good spanking?). and besides, I never claimed to be mature. I'll leave that till Im drooling on my walker... em >okay... first off... to contribute to the argument.. stop arguing... >both liz and poe have awesome talent... and both are very successful artists >and i happen to be a fan of both... and i think it's not just that steve >guy that's being immature here... i remember when this used to be a poe/ >angry psycho list... now it's the "battle of the bands"/"arguments about >crap" list... i think it's kinda dumb to have to read through thirty >"I like liz" "I hate liz" "burn steve at the stake" "let steve live" >posts... i remember when this list was about AP love... now... AP love >is all over the place OUTSIDE the list... but on the inside... it's all >about hatred and prejudice... who's to say steve isn't an alright guy >when he doesn't have his foot in his mouth???? > > >now... i'm done with the LP stuff.... > >everyone check out my webpage.... >http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~eh108896 > >it's gonna probably have it's final updates from allan before tomorrow >night... enjoy... thanks again allan for all your help! > >ej ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 01:38:31 EDT From: earthcrosservs@juno.com (Jill ) Subject: I'm back Hey everyone! This is Jill here, formerly known as GlamorGirl@juno.com. I still have that address, but I got too much mail so I made another one. Well, I have been off the list for a while now, so will someone tell me if anything important has come up recently? I was looking around something on the net, and I read somewhere that Poe will be on a Clash tribute album. Any info on this? Let me know what's going on. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:54:58 -0500 From: Emily Subject: I saw No Doubt tonite I think this is my record high for number of postings per day... I know the No Doubt thing has been discussed way too thoroughly already, but seeing as I just got back from seeing them in Kansas City 30 minutes ago, it seemed appropriate to add one last note to the topic. First off... Gwen has no hair! I mean, I dont think there is a single piece longer than 2 inches. It looks really good, but was just a big shocker. Also, the whole concert is a major production as far as lighting, stage props,etc. Imagine 4 ten foot tall tragic kingdom trees with HUGE orange balls hanging everywhere. At least 4 different backdrops which were rotated throughout the show... glitter falling from the rafters. It was almost on the verge of being too much, but it seemed fitting as No Doubt is all about excess. Energy like you would not believe. Anyway, even though I am not a huge No Doubt fan in general, I give their live show three thumbs up... oops... that wasnt a thumb (I have no idea what that means). emily ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:31:02 -0600 From: "Shaun P. Orton" Subject: Re: NEW MEMBER INTRO Clint Doyle wrote: > > angel wrote: > > at him for a while. And no, I don't think we hate Liz Phair!! If I hated > > her, I would never have heard of Poe... > > angel > The first place I ever heard of POE was on the Liz Phair mailing list. > Somebody over there had great taste in music.... Liz Phair and POE : Who is this Liz Fair chick anyway? Shaun :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:35:41 -0600 From: "Shaun P. Orton" Subject: AP's AP'S RULE!! Shaun :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:40:50 -0600 From: "Shaun P. Orton" Subject: Liz Clint Doyle wrote: > > Shaun P. Orton wrote: > > Who is this Liz Fair chick anyway? > > > > Shaun :) > Liz Phair is a Chicago singer, alternative, raunchy...... > She has a strange voice and even stranger lyrics. > Let's see. Supernova was her biggest hit to date, and she had a song in > the move "Stealing Beauty". > She and POE are my favorite artists. > > Utah bound Clint I was joking! Well anyway, I will see u Utah! Shaun :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:58:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Jono4st@aol.com Subject: Re: this is me WOW She's beautiful, Why can't I find any women like this out here?? Jono ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:34:52 SAST-2 From: "* Richards, Leigh" Subject: my friend gordon (phlash)'s serial: hey angry people, thanks for all the mail - i really DO seem to have found some friends! for those who mailed, i'll reply when i can, but in the mean time here are the first two chapters of my friend gordon's e- mail serial (he's coming up with this stuff while studying for his law exams - guess he's having attention-span problems). enjoy (i think they're damn funny) a.p. love (feels good to write that) leigh. CHAPTER ONE: STRANGE NOISES Kaboom. An explosion that made a strange noise. Fwwzt. A streak of light went . . . em, streaking by. Thud. A dead bird landed heavily on the pavement. Once again, I was alone . . . and I wasn't engaged in anything very closely connected with masturbation. All around me, small animals and South Americans were singing 'Home on the Range' in different keys, producing a cacophony of sound and chili. It would appear that my nemesis, Nem Isis (he defined himself in terms of his relationship with me - what a dork), had managed to transport to the mysterious island of Jagula. Which, in the language of the native Jagulans (who are gorillas), means something which we guess can be approximated to 'island which is inhabited by small animals and South Americans singing 'Home on the Range' badly, producing a cacophony of sound and chili'. We don't think that the Jagulans have quite got a grip on the concept of different keys in music. We guess this because they ate a crate of pianos in 1867. Of course, those were different Jagulans to the ones that live here now, but music is so often genetic, and pianos so expensive, that it's easier to just speculate on these things for the time being. Brrrrt. Hmm, it appears that one of the South Americans is farting as well as singing 'Home on the Range' in F#. Clearly, they have been informed of my weak points and pet hates. I decide that it's time for me to do something about my situation, it's time for me to be heroic and respond to my difficulties. Unfortunately, I haven't eaten cabbage or beans for weeks. [will phlash find some substance to enable him to retaliate against the small South Americans? will he end up in a beautiful (if viewed objectively) love affair with a Jagulan? will Nem Isis change his silly name, or at least his gender, to create more exciting possibilities for Phlash in the future? Find out in the next instalment of . . . "PHLASH, PHLASH, PHLASH"] CHAPTER TWO: BARRY MANILOW (Phlash is stuck on the island of Jagula, there are small animals and South Americans (small to average height) singing in different keys all around him. There are gorillas (native Jagulans) somewhere in the jungle. There is no Cabbage. [For those of you who missed the first chapter, I've included a copy at the end of this one - ed.] ) Suddenly, from out of one of the trees, there came a loud and raucous giggle . . . 'Come out from your hiding place Nem Isis' I shouted. 'I'm gay.' he replied. 'No, I mean let me know where you're hiding place is so that I can confront you and attempt to resolve this conflict before moving onto my next challenge.' 'No.' 'Please.' 'Em . . . what will you give me if I do.' 'I'll give you a new name. You can be known as The Indefinite Article, or 'a'.' 'How about 'The Dickhead'?' 'Em . . . okay, if you want.' 'I do. And do you think I could become a woman as well, so as to provide you with more exciting opportunities for the future, as suggested by the editor at the end of the last chapter.' 'No, and I think he was joking anyway.' 'Oh.' At this stage I realised that the animals and the South Americans had subtly changed from singing Home on the Range in different keys to singing 'Unforgettable' by Nat King Cole in a 5 part harmony in A#. 'Someone's in trouble' I thought to myself. It turned out I was right, for at that very moment, a 15 year old boy had been caught bunking class in his High School and was getting a right telling off from his teacher. What's more, they were going to call his parents and tell them, and then he was going to be in real trouble. The sort of trouble that might cause small animals and South Americans to sing something really awful, like Chris de Burgh, or Rod Stewart, or (if his parents are really abusive and he gets a good beating) . . . B a r r y M a n i l o w. Clearly, it was time to get out of here. Although the Jagulans were known Ornivores, I wasn't a bird and therefore had nothing to fear. While I could hear 'The Dickhead' humming along to the strains of what was starting to sound increasing like 'The Lady in Red', I ran up into the mists of the jungle, heading for the mountain where the Jagulans were known to live and have the occasional picnics. Hegdging all my bets on the hope that they too hated Barry Manilow, I let out the ancient Jagulan cry of distress as I ran towards their sleeping area: 'Anybody want some tea. Who's a pretty gorilla then? Wooshi wooshi woo, lovely gorilla willa, yees, yes you are!' (Will Phlash manage to find the Jagulans? Are the Jagulans still there? Are the Jagulans possibly not gorillas at all but actually the extras from Planet of the Apes, who were dropped there when they couldn't get their make-up off and their spouses got a little bit sick of playing 'jungle-boogie' and longed for normal sexual relations? Will the island be forced to listen to the unnatural melodies of Barry 'why would I want a nose job?' Manilow? Will Phlash do anything to make himself appear a little more hero like than all the boring shit he's done so far? Find out in the next (slightly less mundane) chapter of . . . PHLASH, PHLASH, PHLASH!!!!!) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards of emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch." - unknown... "If it's whack, send it back" - Ben Lee. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:29:46 -0400 From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Subject: Steve+No Doubt+Liz Phair = Poe? so, this guy Steve that you all are talking about.... is he in the band No Doubt? there sure is a lot of talk about the two. There is this really great singer named Poe and she has a really cool album, "Hello". I think you all should check it out. - -rusty you can reach RUSTY at: agentorange2@juno.com or rusty@poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 05:38:54 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Re: AP's Shaun P. Orton wrote: > > AP'S RULE!! > > Shaun :) Agreed Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:13:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Allan Grimm (The Reaper)" Subject: NPR: Just read it (List related) Hi All, I really did not want to post my oppinions on this crap, but I just got a disk quota notice from my surver and I figured that I should put in my 2 cents. #1 - When did this turn into a No Doubt fan page? Not that I don't like No Doubt and all, but there is a thing such as NPR, because this is a Poe page! Not only that, but there has been a lot of No Doubt stuff! If you have to share it, share it with those who care, and not with the whole list. #2 - So this Steve guy was a jerk to someone on the Liz Phair list, so what? If he was a jerk there, he must have been pravoked. Just like No Doubt people talking about them on this list. Someones bound to be a jerk about it eventually (aka me). I really don't think you should bother with the idiot! After all, I know people like him, and that's what they want you to do, just so that can increase their hatred for something they don't know about! #3 - I've already mentioned that I am in a Social Psych class this quarter, and I swear sometimes this list seems like an experiment gone arie. I love Poe, and I love this list. I have made a lot of valuable friendships here, and I don't know if all this inmatuaty is due to new people or old. However, if you've been in on this stuff, and you've been around, I don't see your excuss. I can understand the new people that don't know how the mailing list is supposed to work. The thing is, we are all friend here, and if somethings going wrong on the outside, if it's not really Poe related, or if it's just dumb, leave it outside of the group. Why ask for trouble?!?!? Anyway, maybe I'm out of line here, but you can always rebuttle your oppinions my way, preferably privately. BTW - after Thursday I will be going home for the summer, so you won't hear much from me until September. Thank you. Allan Reaper@poe.org A A A A Mother is the name Check out the /H| \\___A___// |H\ for God on the lips Angry Psychos //H| \/==v==\/ |H\\ and hearts of all @poe.org // H\\ |<>|<>| //H \\ children. - // H \\ \ | / // H \\ Brandon Lee - // H \\ |\|/| // H \\ The Crow // H \\_________|<|>|_________// H \\ *************************V************************* * * /* Allan Grimm *\ //* The Reaper on 99.3 FM ACRN in Athens Ohio. *\\ // * Check out ACRN on the web at * \\ // * http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~acrn * \\ // * A A A A A A * \\ // *******( )( )( )*******************( )( )( )******* \\ // (_)(_)(_) | +-------+ | (_)(_)(_) \\ H ____________ H ________ | +-------+ | ________ H ____________ H H/ \H/ \| +-------+ |/ \H/ \H V V | +-------+ | V V \ \_______/ / Losers always sit around and \ / ************************** whine about doing their best. \ / * * Winners go home and *@?! the ) / * Check out my web page * prom queen! - Sean Connery - / / * oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~lg310895 * The Rock / / * * ( / **************************** I'm going to show you that \ ( God does exist! - Nicholas \ ) Cage (Camron Poe) - Con Air ) / ( / V ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:39:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Flickergrl@aol.com Subject: chat handles list hey everyone!!! here's a list of everyones chat handles, names, and e-mail addresses. hope this helps, 'cuz alot of the time i know i'm in the chatroom and i'm like "um..who the hell am i talking to?" (no offense..heehee) also, for those annoying people like "manson" we know he's not an A-P. if you aren't on this list, DON'T RESPOND TO THIS E-MAIL!!!! e-mail your handle, name, and e-mail address to NotAnAddct@aol.com. thanks. :) ~*brette 1. punk~bitch - jessica - punkish@hotmail.com, punkish33@hotmail.com 2. backstage - evan - ezelig@earthlink.net 3. princess - erin kelley - eek4@acpub.duke.edu 4. clint(C) - clint doyle - hcdoyle@direct.ca 5. natalie, nasty, bug, NatBug, ~tangy~, BidderSweet - natalie gough - natgough@erols.com 6. chile - chile - chile@rocktoons.com 7. SirProudwolf - Jon Russo - proudwolf@linknet.net 8. Becky, Mother, VinylSex, LoveKitten, LadyRebecca, SexKitten, Kitten, Walking Zero - Becky Lynn Clark - rc889@oak.cats.ohiou.edu 9. jessica - jessica bazeley - maryjo@fuse.net 10. jessica2 - jessica pitcairn - fritzj2@aol.com 11. CharmingMan - Darrin Todaro - charmingman@prodigy.net 12. EdH and/or Charon - Ed Hurtley - hurtlee@pr.erau.edu 13. Rhythm - Aaron Green - rhythm@poe.org 14. Faust, LordFaust, Mithrandir, Mith, Myth - jason helton - jhelton@vt.edu, eldorado@poe.org 15. Jiff - Daiv Hogan - jiff@poe.org 16. Twalen, Fleety, MonkeyMan - John deBoer - fdeboer@wesleyan.edu, fleety@poe.org 17. Simkin, Keyser, ThatGuy - Colin Van Ostern - colin@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu, simkin@poe.org 18. braids - leah staub - leahbraids@aol.com 19. LisAngel - lisa golmen - teknikka@online.no 20. Re@per, CrashOveride, Lovefool, Reaper - Allan - lg310895@oak.cats.ohiou.edu, reaper@poe.org 21. PseudoSwede - Lawrence J. Kim - ljk1@cec.wustl.edu, lawrence@poe.or 22. Silverfish - Marc DeJong - marc.de.jong@tip.nl 23. Jezebel - Erin - dahlia1@aol.com 24. Ashley, ASSley, SockMonkey - Ashley Ernst - PyroShwee@aol.com, InUrShadow@aol.com, PyroShwee9@sprynet.com 25. CathyS - cathy - cathys@frontiernet.net 26. alissa - alissa phillips - aaphi@poe.org, aaphi@conncoll.edu 27. SirAaron - Aaron J Boltman - aaron@poe.org aaron@2-cool.com ajb4950@rit.edu 28. jarrod - jarrod kniff - jarrod@poe.org, jarrod@getnet.com 29. turtle - melissa crosby - bpencrosby@worldnet.att.net, turtle@poe.org 30. SirSinjin, sinjin - John Masteller - jem8560@rit.edu, sinj@poe.org 31. butch - jesse wittman - jlvayda@tznet.com 32. psychogrl - carri goodridge - carri@uakron.edu, psychogrl@poe.org 33. sorrow - jason crawford - s0jmcraw@atlas.vcu.edu, sorrow@poe.org 34. brette, brette* - brette - flickergrl@aol.com 35. babi - mandi hoffman - mandipoo@webtv.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 07:31:46 -0700 From: Jess Subject: [Fwd: NPR: Social Distortion] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------61D39F371CB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -- ************************************************************************ Jessica * "My will is as strong as yours and my Texas Fred * kingdom as great! You have no power SilverRain@poe.org * over me!" -Labrynth Squeaky1@concentric.net **************************************** AnGrY-PsYcHoS... Taking over the planet one PsYcHo at a time... Riot Grrrl is for people that say FUCK YOU when the world says to be quiet and obey. Because half the fun of going to Hell is getting there. "I'm back yeah standing/ On the rooftops shouting out/ Baby I'm ready to go/ I'm back and ready to go..." -Republica "I'm so sorry if I'm alienating some of you... your whole fucking culture alienates me." -Bikini Kill "Just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not after you." -Nirvana "I'll reach you below/ No one should brave the underworld alone." -Poe "My fever burns me deeper than I've ever shown..." -Fiona Apple "So what the hell now, we've already been forever damned/ Anywhere you go I'll follow you down..." -the Gin Blossoms "Desire is hunger is the fire I breathe..." -10K Maniacs "Let go it's harder holding on/ One more trip and I'll be gone." -STP "I think I made you up inside my head." -Sylvia Plath ************************************************************************ - --------------61D39F371CB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <339E25EF.5817@poe.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:13:35 -0700 From: Jess Reply-To: SilverRain@poe.org Organization: Best Way X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poe Subject: NPR: Social Distortion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know where I can find the lyrics to "Don't Drag Me Down" or whatever that song is called? Online? AP love, Jess - -- ************************************************************************ Jessica * "My will is as strong as yours and my Texas Fred * kingdom as great! You have no power SilverRain@poe.org * over me!" -Labrynth Squeaky1@concentric.net **************************************** AnGrY-PsYcHoS... Taking over the planet one PsYcHo at a time... Riot Grrrl is for people that say FUCK YOU when the world says to be quiet and obey. Because half the fun of going to Hell is getting there. "I'm back yeah standing/ On the rooftops shouting out/ Baby I'm ready to go/ I'm back and ready to go..." -Republica "I'm so sorry if I'm alienating some of you... your whole fucking culture alienates me." -Bikini Kill "Just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not after you." -Nirvana "I'll reach you below/ No one should brave the underworld alone." -Poe "My fever burns me deeper than I've ever shown..." -Fiona Apple "So what the hell now, we've already been forever damned/ Anywhere you go I'll follow you down..." -the Gin Blossoms "Desire is hunger is the fire I breathe..." -10K Maniacs "Let go it's harder holding on/ One more trip and I'll be gone." -STP "I think I made you up inside my head." -Sylvia Plath ************************************************************************ - --------------61D39F371CB-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:55:34 -0400 (EDT) From: GabriKn@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe vs Phair feud Hey when did this start and why? I have no problems whatsoever with Liz, been listening to her since Exile in Guyville, but why the ranking? Shes great, but of course she's not as great as Poe is ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:04:59 -0400 (EDT) From: carri l goodridge Subject: Re: The Real: Poe vs. Liz I don't mind Liz either..I like her music a lot..I don't think she is very good live, but I won't dwell on that cuz I don't want any kind of battle on who sounds better live or anything like that...They are both pretty cool! Carri On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Casey Hansen wrote: > I like POE better, Liz is cool but her voice is too damn low! > > Danke, > Casey > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:22:28 -0400 From: Rick Masters Subject: flaming Steve, Not to point out the obvious, but you are rude. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. It doesn't seem like anyone was abusing you for your appreciation of the Liz Phair list, why must you be so crude? In case you forgot, I have attached your insightful comments below. AP Love Rick And, not to be rude or anything, but you should be ASHAMED of yourself for being a Poe fan! She sucks, she ripped off the cover art for WhipSmart for her own album! (The face in a star thing---ask anyone.) Most people here, I think, dislike Poe, so don't go bragging about how you're on a *mailing list* for her, for God's sake. And have a nice day! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:25:25 -0400 From: Brigette Anne Subject: Quotes I need some good quotes by people for my Theta Delta Chi scrapbook. If anyone knows any, please email them to me. Thanks....:) Love, Brigette Anne (The TDX Bond Mistress..........*giggle*) TDX Little Sister ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:59:00 -0500 From: Joe Hay Subject: Re: AP's Shaun P. Orton wrote: > AP'S RULE!! > > Shaun :) Damn right!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:33:29 -0400 From: express@kih.net (express) Subject: A million pardons Hello AP brothers and sisters. I am writing to apologize for being responsible for starting the whole No Doubt spin off on this list. It all started when I offered to give away some tickets and passes to a show because I wanted to meet some of you in my area. I had no idea that it would become such a popular subject. Apparently, everybody had to chime in their 2 cents worth about how good or bad they were in concert, and what made it worse is that they felt like they had to do it through the mailing list instead of just writing me instead. I put my address in my letters so you can write me back personally, and not just respond through the list. So, if you want to talk about them or anything else, be it good or bad, please write ME and not the mailing list. Take care and have a great day. AP love, Colin Alexander Eliot Diesel@poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:37:31 +0000 From: "Lyza Gardner" Subject: Lyza is SuperDumb Hi guys. Let me confess. I have 337 unread AP posts sitting in my mailbox. This is finals week in Portland, Oregon, and, with my new domain (www.lyza.com) and trip preparations, I'm almost in over my head. I can't fathom going through 337 messages. So I'm going to browse and select, judging by subject line. I'll definitely miss something. So if there's something important I've been missing, please email me. I guess I got a bit weary for a while, the bickering was hard on my morale, I needed a break. I'm back. Here's what's up: I leave on the 27th for my big Poe Trip Extravaganza! I need to make final confirmations with the people I'm meeting along the way, just so I know everything's still cool. Many of you have already done that, so you don't need to repeat that. I have been bad about getting back to some of you, please don't think I've forgotten you, I'm just so swamped with stuff right now. I will post a comprehensive trip-related post hopefully sometime in the next few days, which will list exactly which people I need to hear from and whom I'm staying with, etc. I'm very excited about this trip! Any AP's looking for a place to have a Poe-related home page are welcome to put it on my server for free. Individuals: ___________________________________________ Roger, I am almost surely planning to attend your MontereyFest, if you care. Cocky, I can hardly wait for June 27th! Jim, you have been amazing in the last several weeks. Your gusto is quite enviable. See you in Cleveland! Jarrod, where are we going to meet in Phoenix? Is there a good lunching-place there? Rusty, do you have the address for your new place yet? Who exactly am I staying with in Rochester? Michaela, everything's a go for El Paso, right? Christina, you're still cool with the Dallas stop, right? Am I staying with Juli in Baltimore? Or Norm? I forgot :( Tom Davidson, still up for Chicago? Josh in Minneapolis (haven't talked to you for a long long time!)??? Paul in Boston? Please? Lush, sorry if you were mislead! :) I still wanna meet with you in Las Cruces/El Paso area, if you wanna! hi jeremy, if you're there, you're my favorite. _____________________________ You guys are all pretty nifty most of the time (when you're not fighting or arguing petty thingys)! Hear from you all soon, you'd better write me!! ________________________________________ Lyza Gardner lyza@lyza.com Free Web Accounts for You at www.lyza.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:40:52 -0400 (EDT) From: MAME19@aol.com Subject: ORIGINAL PERSON WITH A PROBLEM WITH STEVE!!!!!READ!!!! You guys when i sent what steve said to me to the list i didn't want you all to hate him and want to mailbomb him. I just wanted you guys to cheer me up!! I was sad what he said to me, but he's just a dumb asshole......NOW THOUGH I AM PISSED because some unknown person keeps sending me vulger IM's and for some reason i keep getting booted offline and this has never happened before....so i feel really bad now...i didn't want to cause any trouble i juat wanted to cheer up and its only made me feel worse......LOOK what he wrote to the Liz Phair list today....:( unhappy angry-psycho Magan - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: kiskos@webtv.net (Edward Kisko) Resent-from: guyville@fdemocracy.org To: guyville@fdemocracy.org Date: 97-06-11 10:54:45 EDT Okay, so now it's all out in the open. Yes, I HATE Poe! I think she's quite untalented (have you HEARD her songs?!? I've heard the whole CD, and I don't see why she's more popular tha Liz! She just plain sucks!) Yes, I did tell a new member to this list how Poe ripped off her cover art from Liz and how she shouldn't go advertising that she's on a Poe mailing list, for God's sake. I agree, it was kid of mean, but when I see Poe writing dumb-ass songs (and that IS what they are, I don't care WHO disagrees with me!!!), stealing her cover art from Liz and probably not even understanding it, and then developing a loyal fan base and having hit singles, I can't stand it!!! I just thought, 'the nerve'!!! And I'm NOT afraid of a bunch of AngryPsychos from th POE mailing llist. They can e-mail me all they want!! I hate POE and I'm not ashamed of *that*!!! STEVE :( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:47:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MAME19@aol.com Subject: ME AGAIN I would like to personally thank CLEO. She was the only one who wrote me and asked me just to feel better. No more no less. TO CLEO wherever you are i have MUCH respect to you and thenk you for being an awesome AP!!!! MAGAN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:56:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lawrence J. Kim" Subject: Re: ORIGINAL PERSON WITH A PROBLEM WITH STEVE!!!!!READ!!!! People have a right not to like POE. People also have a right to love No Doubt in concert. Those are their opinions. Whatever we do won't change their opinion. If we start mailbombing this Steve character, it will only create more problems in the future. If we start harrassing people about their views about No Doubt, it will only cause apathy within the AP family. Please, people have their opinions. Let's just leave it at that and drop the Liz Phair and No Doubt discussions. AP Love, Lawrence - who can't go to Utah :( ************************************************************************* Lawrence Kim * PseudoSwede in the POE.ORG chatroom ljk1@cec.wustl.edu * Hobbe on IRC lawrence@poe.org * Co-MWAP Regional Leader (mwap@poe.org) Maintainer of POE : The Mistress of Groove http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~ljk1/poe.html ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:01:18 -0700 From: "CockyŽ" Subject: NPR Childish and I Know and Love it This is my idea.... Lets start sending to their list some really huge, (file Size) pics of Poe! Just as a warm reminder..... Then they will have to spend much time downloading these pics... Cocky=AE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 16:06:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Allan Grimm (The Reaper)" Subject: Re: NPR Childish and I Know and Love it Cocky, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DO NOT WANT TO DO!!! Don't you understand, if we do that. Then they'll try to get back at us, and it will just end up starting a war between the APs and the Liz fans. I personally do not want to be a part of that! And if any action like that is taken, I swear I WILL leave the APs, and I will incourage everyone I can to quit. I love the APs, but if we are going to turn into a childish group that attacks others for having an opinion, I'm walking. I love Poe enough not to support a group that could wreck her image! She loves us, and she's said that, and if we turn into a bunch of punks, how does that make her look. Did you think about that even for a second. I didn't think so! I'm axiously awaiting the burage of hate mail I'm sure I'm going to get for this one. Allan Reaper@poe.org A A A A Mother is the name Check out the /H| \\___A___// |H\ for God on the lips Angry Psychos //H| \/==v==\/ |H\\ and hearts of all @poe.org // H\\ |<>|<>| //H \\ children. - // H \\ \ | / // H \\ Brandon Lee - // H \\ |\|/| // H \\ The Crow // H \\_________|<|>|_________// H \\ *************************V************************* * * /* Allan Grimm *\ //* The Reaper on 99.3 FM ACRN in Athens Ohio. *\\ // * Check out ACRN on the web at * \\ // * http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~acrn * \\ // * A A A A A A * \\ // *******( )( )( )*******************( )( )( )******* \\ // (_)(_)(_) | +-------+ | (_)(_)(_) \\ H ____________ H ________ | +-------+ | ________ H ____________ H H/ \H/ \| +-------+ |/ \H/ \H V V | +-------+ | V V \ \_______/ / Losers always sit around and \ / ************************** whine about doing their best. \ / * * Winners go home and *@?! the ) / * Check out my web page * prom queen! - Sean Connery - / / * oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~lg310895 * The Rock / / * * ( / **************************** I'm going to show you that \ ( God does exist! - Nicholas \ ) Cage (Camron Poe) - Con Air ) / ( / V ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 16:34:02 -0400 (EDT) From: PyroShwee@aol.com Subject: Re: Steve the asswipe @ liz phair In a message dated 97-06-11 15:20:00 EDT, you write: << Hey I got the bomb built and ready to click. I'll gladly blow this >basterd off the net! Any last words????? > >tic....tic....tic..... >> any last words??? yeah.. BYE BYE!!!! hehe ashley@poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:57:11 -0700 From: Jeremy Abramson Subject: NPR: Maybe it isn't "Steve" who is an asswipe. PyroShwee@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-06-11 15:20:00 EDT, you write: > > << Hey I got the bomb built and ready to click. I'll gladly blow this > >basterd off the net! Any last words????? > > > >tic....tic....tic..... >> > any last words??? yeah.. > BYE BYE!!!! > > hehe > > ashley@poe.org Umm..WHAT THE FUCK! I sure as hell hope this whole thing is a freaking joke, because if not, this is getting way stupid. I joined this group for two reasons. 1) I wanted to learn a little about Poe. I heard her music, saw a video, saw an interview, and I figured she merrited a closer look. I don't regret the choice. Secondly, I figured some interesting people might come along with #1. So far, I've "met" one. This has got to stop. I feel sorta like part of the problem (analagous to the people who post "hey man, you can't get a virus from e-mail) but I think something needs to be done. Even this e-mail, which is becoming less and less scathing the more I realise it probably just not worth it, was prefaced with "NPR." Why? Because it's NOT POE RELATED! Its LAME related, and I think you all know who I'm talking about. I'm talking about each and every one of you who posts about Steve and his likings, dislikings, civil rights, or bra size. It doesn't matter. A desperate request: Next time you feel like posting about Steve, the timbre of Liz Phair's voice, or how much hair No Doubt people have, put on a CD (maybe Aphex Twin, maybe Poe) and chill out. Works for me. Not to be a dictator (that isn't my perogotive) but this just seems like common sense. Now, on to more pleasant matters... Lyza: You rock, but you forgot to capitalize my name. Reminds me of the whole concept of there being a difference between "friends" and "Friends." But don't worry. You still rock the best anyway. Monteray guy (Roger?): I'm going to dig through my e-mail and get you a more formalize response, but instead of telling you whether I'm coming or not, I'm going to tell you something a little more important.... THANK YOU. What you are doing rocks, and whether or not I attend, I think each and every AP should thank you. You're cool, and what you're doing is above the call of duty. About Poe Mp3's (or MP3's in general): Do y'alls collect? Are the band versions of Poe songs (or live one's for that matter) availible on the net? Please send any response about MP3's that aren't Poe related by private e-mail. Lastly, is Poe finally off the road to work on the new album? How is that video game coming? Laters, jeremy/Jeremy - -- ============================================================== Jeremy Abramson - Loser@Ucdavis.edu | "Raise your fist, (c) Schizoid Productions 1997 | Mr. Smith, and let http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~abramson | the world be damned" ============================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:00:41 PDT From: "Jessica Gilwee" Subject: NPR-liz Who is Liz Phair? I seriously have no idea, I just got up the guts to ask now..... so who is she? - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:15:25 PDT From: "Jessica Gilwee" Subject: poe's new album So is rise and shine her new album or song? What about How Long? New Song? I'm sorry if I sound out of it and incompitent, but I'm not connected as much as you guys. Punk~Bitch Jess Don't push me cause I 'm close to the edge. I'm tryin' not to lose my head. ha ha ha It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under. - -Grand Master Flash and The Furious Five - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V2 #197 ***********************************