From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V2 #41 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, January 31 1997 Volume 02 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Poe AP Show... Re: TAN.... I need one! NEPR: M2 RESULTS OF POLL! Poe liking Bush? Re: NPR BUT MUSIC RELATED NPR: BUT POE RELATED ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 20:46:39 UT From: "CASEY HANSEN" Subject: RE: Poe AP Show... Well, I still say we do anything in LA, but I do see your point. Let the whole thing be up to Poe and the record company. But it still would be cool if it happened Danke, Casey - ---------- From: Jarrod Sent: Thursday, January 30, 1997 10:11 AM To: Erik Joseph Hartley Cc: CASEY HANSEN; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: Poe AP Show... WHOOOOOAAAAAA... Hold the train... Let us take it in small steps.. As in "let us set up meetings with POE as AP's in individual cities." I think that we agre getting way ahead of ourselves to think that POE will be doing a free concert for HER AP's. A number of reasons... 1. POE isn't as rich as we might think. 2. The record company doesn't like to do anything for free! ANYTHING 3. The record company is just starting to understand that the AP's are an organized gruop that would like to be recognized. Let us get some recognition and then request a free concert. 4. We are really too small and we live too far apart. 5. When and If we become an OFFICIAL Fan Club we will get things like free concerts. 6. WHAT CAN YOU DO???? Tell more friends about the AP's. Get them signed up. Get them into POE. Contact Robby Black (robbyb@poe.org) and start to get your regional contact going. I am working on arranging meetings with POE if you are organized with your regional person and POE comes to town. I really think that organizing regionall is the best thing we can do right now. Then we can organize a national CD release Party and see if POE will play for us there. Feedback please..... (privately, unless a worthy comment for discussion). Take Care and keep the vision... Jarrod The possibility of WWW.POE.ORG... "For POE to be with us." The possibility of AP's... "For us to be with POE." On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Erik Joseph Hartley wrote: > Since we all seem to be under the impression that Poe should do a show for > just us AP members... here's the problem I'm having with the whole idea... > we all live EXTREMELY far apart... I mean... I'd probably drive as far as > New York or DC or Chicago even... but LA is too damn far from Southeastern > "Nowhere" Ohio... it's been said that a bunch of the people on this list > are from such places as "Nowhere" Ohio... as well as other such "Nowhere" > places... where it's really hard to get to LA from... or Atlanta... or > anywhere that's not Northeastern US... I mean... I could do it... if the > funds allow... but... here's my brilliant idea... why don't we try to get > a FEW angry psychos shows organized... I mean REALLY seriously > organized... down to venue, exact place, number of people who could > physically get there, EVERYTHING... and then run that by Poe and the > record company... and see if they'll go through with any of it... I know > that sounds like a dumb idea... but if we try hard enough it might work... > and it might allow more of us to see Poe than just a one shot West show... > > Not that a one shot West show would be bad... > > ej > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:07:16 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: TAN.... I need one! Does it really need to be a concert? why can't we just all hang out...get wasted together or something.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:19:00 -0600 From: Tom Davidson Subject: NEPR: M2 > Yeeeeaaaahhhhh! I finally saw Poe's Hello video on M2 ! I like it, > a lot! I hope they play it lots more! right after Hello they played > republica's drop dead gorgeous and sponges "Wax Ecstatic" I was in > video heaven! Is it just me, or is M2 the best thing MTV's done since 1991? Tom ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:18:52 -0700 From: "PadmaT" Subject: RESULTS OF POLL! Dear Angry Psychos: Here it is! Can't believe it, but it actually fit on an e-mail message. The overview, etc., may or may not interest you: if so, read on; if not, skip ahead. Whew! Padma ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Angry Psychos Poll: Their Favorite Individual Artists & Bands Overview A poll was conducted by Padma Thornlyre amongst Poe fans who subscribe on the Internet to Angry Psychos (APs), a Poe fan chat list, to determine what musicians (bands and individual artists) were the APs' all-time favorites. Out of 215 APs, 50 voted, yielding a response rate of 23.26%. While Poe, of course, topped the polling, the total band/musician count was an astonishing 247-many of whom I had either never heard of before, or had heard of but never heard. Methods APs were asked to submit a list, ranked 1-10, of their all-time favorite musical artists. All first place votes were awarded 10 points, second place votes 9 points, and so on down to 10th place votes which were awarded a single point. Many bands represented in the list were echoed by the individual artists who played with them. Not wanting to deflate anyone's total score, I took the liberty of combining the artist/band in these instances. For example, John Lennon is listed under The Beatles/John Lennon, Lisa Gerrard under Dead Can Dance/Lisa Gerrard, and Bjork under Sugarcubes/Bjork. In all cases, the band is listed first, the individual last-this for the sake of continuity, and is not intended to imply that a band is more valuable or valued than an individual performer. Because I myself did not recognize every name that came through, it's quite possible that an artist I don't know is listed individually, and separately from her/his band. If that's the case, please e-mail me and I will make the correction. Not all respondents provided a list of ten. Those who provided less than ten had their rankings reflected from 1st place (10 points) down to the lowest number they actually ranked (e.g. a 5th place finish was given 6 points). Those who provided more than ten had their 10th place and all subsequent "places" awarded a single point. Because this is not a scientific poll, this more "liberal" method seemed fair and more fun. The requirements of tabulating this poll were far more overwhelming than I expected. I developed no means to ensure against double-voting; but as APs are a family, I felt they deserved the benefit of the doubt. If any double-voting did occur, those who double-voted will know that the higher rankings of their favorite artists are artificially inflated. Again, I doubt this happened. Observations Not surprisingly, Poe herself topped the polling with a whopping 332 total points. APs are incredibly diverse in their musical tastes-nearly every musical "genre" was represented to one degree or another: classical, jazz, country/western, rap, and easy listening all had their fans amongst APs. Most APs, though, are dyed-in-the-wool rockers! Most, too, have very contemporary tastes, although several "older" bands/musicians were represented. Delightfully surprising to me is that one older band, in particular, enjoys widespread popularity amongst APs, more than a quarter century since they disbanded, and a good 30 years since they released the most pivotal album in rock history-Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band. I refer, of course, to the Beatles, who tied with No Doubt for 6th place. Curious, but not surprising, women artists are well-represented in this poll, proving that Angry Psychos are a non-gender-biased family. A certain drama unfolded about halfway through the polling, when Nirvana held a firm grip on 2nd place. Tori Amos kept climbing the poll, and then surpassed Nirvana in voting-and never looked back. Conclusion It's doubtful that every Angry Psycho is intimate with the music of everyone who received votes. I heartily encourage each and every one of you to scan this list for ideas on what to purchase next time you visit a music store-perhaps even take a chance on music you don't know (that's exactly what I did with Poe-I saw one video and thought, "Hmm, I do like her voice;" and you can guess the rest of that story!). Poe, if you read this, know that you are in our hearts, our dreams, and our hopes for the future. Keep the music comin'! Results (Note: numbers on the left indicate artist's ranking in the poll; parenthetical numbers on the right indicate their total point accumulation.) 1. Poe (332) 2. Tori Amos (127) 3. Nirvana (91) 4. Jewel (70) 5. Smashing Pumpkins (68) 6. (tie) Beatles/John Lennon (59) No Doubt (59) 8. Garbage (57) 9. Nine Inch Nails (50) 10. Sara McLachlan (42) 11. Alanis Morrisette (41) 12. The Cure (36) 13. (tie) Pearl Jam (35) Fiona Apple (35) 15. 10,000 Maniacs/Natalie Merchant (31) 16. Alice in Chains (30) 17. Bjork/Sugarcubes (29) 18. (tie) Bush (28) Metallica (28) 20. Stabbing Westward (27) 21. (tie) REM (25) Stone Roses (25) 23. (tie) Korn (22) Liz Phair (22) Patti Rothberg (22) Sponge (22) 27. Tracy Bonham (21) 28. (tie) Depeche Mode (20) Enigma (20) Madonna (20) Siouxsie & the Banshees/Creatures (20) 32. (tie) Cranberries (19) Sheryl Crow (19) Marilyn Manson (19) 35. (tie) Charlatans UK (18) Led Zeppelin (18) Republica (18) Veruca Salt (18) 39. (tie) Heather Nova (17) Pantera (17) Kula Shaker (17) 42. (tie) Aerosmith (16) Indigo Girls (16) Pink Floyd (16) Police/Sting (16) Rage Against the Machine (16) U2 (16) 48. (tie) Lea Andreone (15) Tom Petty/Heartbreakers (15) 50. (tie) Dead Can Dance/Lisa Gerrard (14) Oingo Boingo (14) Sonic Youth (14) Sublime (14) Tool (14) Violent Femmes (14) 56. (tie) Oasis (13) Primal Scream (13) Red Hot Chili Peppers (13) Soundgarden (13) 60. (tie) Belly (12) Van Halen (12) 62. (tie) Blur (11) Elastica (11) 64. (tie) Black Crowes (10) Blondie/Debbie Harry (10) David Bowie (10) Cardigans (10) Cypress Hill (10) Doors (10) Duran Duran (10) Billie Holliday (10) James (10) Jefferson Airplane/Grace Slick (10) Joni Mitchell (10) Joy Division/New Order (10) Nits/Stips (10) Portishead (10) Ramones (10) Silver Chair (10) Sleeper (10) 81. (tie) Beastie Boys (9) Chains (9) Eric Clapton (9) Terence Trent d'Arby (9) Faith No More (9) Ella Fitzgerald (9) Eurythmics/Annie Lennox (9) Grateful Dead (9) Gravity Kills (9) Guns & Roses (9) Dave Matthews Band (9) Pixies (9) Refreshments (9) Henry Rollins/Rollins Band (9) Rose Chronicles (9) Slint (9) Sunny Day Real Estate (9) They Might Be Giants (9) Toad the Wet Sprocket (9) 100. (tie) Afghan Whigs (8) Buffalo Springfield/Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young/Neil Young (8) Chicago (8) Drill (8) Erasure (8) Gin Blossoms (8) Merle Haggard (8) Love and Rockets (8) Mr. Bungle (8) Our Lady Peace (8) Pet Shop Boys (8) Pollen/Peach (8) Lou Reed/Velvet Underground (8) Rolling Stones (8) Sebadoh (8) Swans (8) Tangerine Dream (8) This Mortal Coil (8) 118. (tie) Blue Tones (7) Boston (7) Bridewell Taxis (7) Cowboy Junkies (7) Ani DiFranco (7) Diswalla (7) Flaming Lips (7) Future Sound of London (7) Goo Goo Dolls (7) P.J. Harvey (7) Billy Joel (7) Kiss (7) My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult (7) Northsides (7) Rachmaninoff (7) Shriekback (7) Slayer (7) Wallflowers (7) Weezer (7) 137. (tie) Jeff Beck (6) Kate Bush (6) Everclear (6) Filter (6) Orbital (6) Carl Orff (6) Primus (6) Pulp (6) Rancid (6) Tupac Shakur (6) Skinny Puppy (6) Social Distortion (6) Super 8 (6) Geggy Tah (6) Verve Pipe (6) XTC (6) 153. (tie) Beth Hart Band (5) Buggles (5) The Cure (5) Flash and the Pan (5) Girls Against Boys (5) Happy Rhodes (5) Hole (5) Thelonius Monk (5) NOFX (5) Joan Osborne (5) Pretenders (5) Shine (5) Snoop Doggy Dogg (5) 166. (tie) Bad Religion (4) Breeders/Amps/Kelley deal 6000 (4) Crowbar (4) Miles Davis (4) Drovers (4) Exotic Birds (4) G Love & Special Sauce (4) Leather Strip (4) Live (4) Moonpools and Caterpillars (4) Orange 9mm (4) Stone Temple Pilots (4) Tricky (4) 179. (tie) Black Sabbath/Ozzy Osbourne (3) Cake (3) Chemical Brothers (3) Codeseven (3) Juliana Hatfield (3) K's Choice (3) Lush (3) Manic Street Preachers (3) Barry Manilow (3) Amanda Marshall (3) Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (3) Mutha's Day Out (3) N-17 (3) Prodigy (3) Radiohead (3) Simon & Garfunkel (3) Nina Simone (3) Simple Minds (3) Smiths (3) Soul Coughing (3) Sugar Ray (3) Three Dog Night (3) Toadies (3) 202. (tie) Collective Soul (2) Cracker/Camper Van Beethoven (2) Dead Kennedys (2) Frogpond (2) Green Apple Quick Step (2) Happy Mondays (2) Sophie B. Hawkins (2) Jimi Hendrix (2) Infectious Groove (2) Barbara Kessler (2) Legendary Pink Dots/Tear Garden (2) Lemonheads (2) Aimee Mann (2) Massive Attack (2) Shampoo (2) Sister Machine Gun (2) Squatweiler (2) TLC (2) Type O Negative (2) Wailers/Bob Marley (2) The Who (2) 223. (tie) Art of Noise (1) BTE (1) Albert Collins (1) John Denver (1) DK (1) Dog's Eye View (1) Bob Dylan (1) Def Leppard (1) Globe (1) The Groove at Mike's Deli (1) Lords of Acid (1) LTC (1) Lucious Jackson (1) Minor Threat (1) Nixons (1) Vanessa Paradis (1) Poor Bastard (1) Prince (1) Shakespeare's Sister (1) Superdrag (1) Switchblade Symphony (1) Talking Heads (1) 311 (1) Hank Williams, Jr. (1) Hank Williams, Sr. (1) 50 Respondents ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:57:02 EST From: glamorgirl@juno.com (Jill M Pearson) Subject: Poe liking Bush? Does Poe even like Bush? It really doesnt seem to me like she would! Even though I am a HUGE fan of Bush, they just dont seem like Poe's kind of music. Someone said something about Gavin and Gwen getting married, so he couldnt date Poe or whatever. Trust me, that it alot of the topic on the Bush list, but Trauma emailed us and said they werent getting married. I still dont think that Poe would get together with Gavin, I dont know why, I just wouldnt see it happening! If she does tour with Bush, I will get to see her 3x! Once in March, and 2x in May!! Okay, Buh-Bye now! Jill ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ GlamorGirl@juno.com "i'll have that smoke now" ~ G. Rossdale, Greedy Fly video BUSHgirl44@aol.com "Fly away, sweet bird of prey" ~ POE DariaBlue5@aol.com "It's gettin' hectic" ~ The Urge "Sometimes sunshine, does not want to shine on me" ~ No Doubt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 01:20:24 -0500 (EST) From: Gavinobs18@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR BUT MUSIC RELATED In a message dated 97-01-30 00:16:25 EST, you write: >angry-psychos@smoe.org Believe it or not in England (where I'm from) they're huge. For some odd reason people love them. They didn't even have a name untill a few months after their first single was released! Jacinda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 01:20:38 -0500 (EST) From: PyroShwee@aol.com Subject: NPR: BUT POE RELATED In a message dated 97-01-30 00:48:51 EST, you write: << I just saw the new spice girls video. and i have one simple question. WHY THE HELL ARE THEY GETTING AIR TIME??? they just remind me of a female new kids on the block. i bet in concert they stand in a line and syncronize dance. does anyone really like them? >> OHH!!!! I just thought of who you're talking about....I HATE them...they don't deserve air time..they should be playing POE or something..isn't it that video where they're like wearing all these shiny tight flourescent clothes and singing a really shity song.. ewwww....ok, Im out... Layta, Ashley PyroShwee@aol.com ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V2 #41 **********************************