From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V2 #27 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, January 20 1997 Volume 02 : Number 027 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Best Concert Don't kill yrself, Yamit! POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE Seriously... LOOK RE: The song How Long Re: First Concert Re:Necklace [Fwd: I Have A Dream - Martin Luther King] RE: Poe Live LOOK RE: The song How Long Re: poe poe and poe bad luck continues Re: First Concert Re: Poe & Marilyn Manson...again Re: Poe & Marilyn Manson...again Hello Band Mix? SUICIDE NPR:suicide pr: trying to spark up an interest in Poe Sorry... Just asking for attention. Discography: TAN Re: Best Concert Re: Best Concert Re: First Concert you all Re: NPR:suicide Re: TAN: Stop the insanity! (Fwd) (Fwd) Unsubcribing Re: NPR:suicide Re: NPR:suicide Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Unsubcribing ***Please Read*** Re: NPR:suicide Re: NPR:suicide Re: you all Re: you all oh, by the way...(suicide) Re: NPR:suicide Re: you all Meat NPR:Help Re: you all Re: Poe & Marilyn Manson...again Re: oh, by the way...(suicide) CENSORSHIP may be coming... suicide... Re: you all GOODBYE: From Landon, Rewind '96 Re: oh, by the way...(suicide) Re: Poe & Marilyn Manson...again angry-psycho love Re: Best Concert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:38:15 -0500 (EST) From: Mel0069@aol.com Subject: Re: Best Concert fiona apple is awesome--i recomend that everyone check her out ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 02:22:37 -0500 From: fdeboer@eagle.wesleyan.edu (John deBoer) Subject: Don't kill yrself, Yamit! Yamit! Don't kill yrself! There's tons of things out there to do that are impossible to accomplish while dead! Really seriously no joke--if you are thinking about suicide even remotely, please talk to someone who can help. I don't know who, but there are lots of people who can either help you out or introduce you to someone who can. Please, Yamit, how can we lose someone with such an interesting name? Twalen Fleety MonkeyMan =o) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 03:30:50 -0500 From: Shad Clark Subject: POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE Hello, hello... All we can type about is Poe? Okay... Well... We all obviously think she's great. Um... I listened to her CD again just the other day! Golly... This is such an exciting list! Shad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 03:46:44 -0500 From: Shad Clark Subject: Seriously... ANGRY psychos, Seriously... I sincerely hope Poe will still be grooving ten or more years from now. Her tastes and style seem eclectic enough to keep her afloat for quite a while. "Hello" is being played more and more on the radio now. I'm happy for her. And this is a boring message. BUT that's exactly the kind of message most of you seem eager to read. So... I'd like to apologize for what alot of you seem to have been offended by. Yes, I am indeed a vehement vegetarian. Yes, I was playing the devil's advocate (even though I don't really believe in Satan or anything). Yes, I am slightly misanthropic. Yes, I often seem like an elitist. Yes, I'm sorry I made some of you think. Live and let live... Shad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 97 07:31:04 UT From: "CASEY HANSEN" Subject: LOOK Shut Up, everybody! I mean to offend no one, but this is getting a little out of hand. Lets stick to the main subject hear and that is Poe, if you are going to discuss other things, than please don't post them to get all the stupid people angry. Bringing up topics is fine, but the reply's should remain private (I'm sure I get plenty of responses to this post, but please just e-mail me privately, don't clutter up everybody's computer because of something I said. No One Cares!) Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 97 07:10:31 UT From: "CASEY HANSEN" Subject: RE: The song How Long It is a new song that was written after the "Hello" record came out. She plays it a lot in concert and she did it on Modern Rock Live, for now you can only get it on bootlegs, but hopefully it will become a B-side or on something. I have it, its a good song Danke, Casey - ---------- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org on behalf of shawn robinson Sent: Sunday, January 19, 1997 9:14 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: The song How Long This might sound like a stupid question to some of you. But I have a boot of the song "How long" And I have heard other people talk about about it But it is not the album. So where is it?? is it on a single??Or where?? ok thanks. Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:03:19 -0500 (EST) From: ITT2335@aol.com Subject: Re: First Concert Sorry 'bout tha delayed response... My first concert was Amy Grant with my church when i was seven. Then Carman when i was 11. Then i discovered "real" music. My first "real" concert was Tom Petty, some blues guy opened for him. A week later i attended a Fleming and John concert. Recently i saw Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage opened for them. And last month i saw Soundgarden. If Poe ever came here I'd buy the concert out and give the tickets to the deserving people, if i could. Nobody good hardly EVER comes to middle Tennessee. Somebody tell Poe that she's got a massive fan base here. Angry Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:03:21 -0500 (EST) From: ITT2335@aol.com Subject: Re:Necklace Whoever that was that had those Poe necklace thingies, i'd like one. What do i need to do ta get one? "Tommorrow's comin around a hairpin curve...." AP Jeremy T. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:54:52 -0800 From: madhattr@cobweb.net Subject: [Fwd: I Have A Dream - Martin Luther King] X-UIDL: 0c1536ca2f28e58005a9558416030f00 Received: from emout16.mx.aol.com by michelle.cobweb.net (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Aug96-0824PM) id AA00312; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:09:20 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA23597; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:06:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:06:06 -0500 (EST) From: JenLvGWTW6@aol.com Message-Id: <970119230603_1544241465@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: EDUCNV3@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu, michelly@sas.upenn.edu, EStew428@aol.com, wmoses@lando.hns.com, Oasis42849@aol.com, Mike2000z@aol.com, lambrton@voicenet.com, ILuvGWTW@aol.com, Scarlett33@aol.com, Tom@microlite.com, madhattr@cobweb.net, TobyTru@aol.com, P..Hall@worldnet.att.net, Mosesr@labs.wyeth.com, NEVAEH666@aol.com, RingoS4@aol.com, Beatles234@aol.com, SxiGrnEyz@aol.com, chris@microlite.com, Answer2Yes@aol.com, Crazeddaisy@juno.com, Mmp734@aol.com, LizzyQ222@aol.com, SchenckED@aol.com, KIMP611@aol.com, Wishlisten@aol.com, ALANVICKI@aol.com, DelilahAD@aol.com Subject: I Have A Dream - Martin Luther King X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Hello everyone!!! Tomorrow means a whole lot to me, and I hope it's the same for you. Martin luther king is one of my role models and his assasination hits my soft heart just like john lennon being shot. It hurts. Here's my version of " I Have A Dream" to remind us all that tomorrow isn't just another day off from work or school, it's a day to remember a great american leader that wanted to encourage what our lord taught us "equality" I hope that you all will forward this message to as many people aas possible to help everyone world wide remember what tomorrow means. So this is sort of a chain letter, but not really. so here is Jennifer Baldauf's version of " I have a dream" I have a dream that someday everyone will be treated with respect. that "peace" won't be just another word that means nothing I have a dream that i will one day be able to walk the city slums at night and not worry. That love will be spread world wide and across each families dinner table I have a dream that everyone will be considered in God's country, even if they are homeless that the word stress would be almost nonexistent. I have a dream that people will really be able to "IMAGINE" and I won't be the only dreamer. that people can co-exist without all the fighting I have a dream that one day me and you can consider each other, without worry, brother and sister without a color-coded message Yes, I have a dream! DO YOU? Let's spread the phrase " love with equality" around for once, we could all use it, and for those of you who are racist or prejudice, remember that your God made them that way just because he wanted to people of the world to be like a rainbow, a beautiful sight with many different colors. Whether you are black,white,yellow,red,or brown, God loves you all just the same!!!!!!! Goodnight everyone! LOVE, jen baldauf p.s.-remember to forward this ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 97 15:45:15 UT From: "CASEY HANSEN" Subject: RE: Poe Live - ---------- Wow, well, Poe is soooooooooo much better live than recorded. And her recorded is awesome. So you can imagine my enthusiasm. She jumps in the crowd and gives people her water bottles. During "Beautiful Girl" she pulls up girls onto the stage, she is constantly giving people high five's and grabbing drinks and stuff out of peoples hands, and she also is just good. She has so much energy. She puts an electric shock through those songs you just don't pick up anywhere else, plus the chemistry between her and Cameron are amazingly good, all in all one of the best shows I have ever been to!!! Danke, Casey - ---------- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org on behalf of Lehmann Sent: Sunday, January 19, 1997 9:21 PM To: 'The Queen of Hearts' Subject: pr: trying to spark up an interest in Poe OK you guys. This is my Poe Related question. What is it like to be at = a Poe concert?=20 How does it compare to any others you've been to? What is the audience = spirit like? What=20 kind of things does she say? What makes it superior to any other = concert experience?=20 Why do we love her more than anyone else? Is she better live or = recorded? Does she have any songs other than the album songs and How long and Padre Fear? if so, = can I have the lyrics? Have you written any Poe interperetations yet? (one track mind) = if so send them to me. Do you have any raman noodles to spare, b/c I"m out? Oh, that = wasn't PR, sorry. OK, well that ended up to be more than 1 PR question, but I'm trying to = start an appropriate thread, and besides--I'm interested!! And where = besides the Poe list am I going to find any information about Poe??? snoxy lovies, cj - --GAA03776.853770210/upsmot01.msn.com-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:40:09, -0500 From: PLZP99A@prodigy.com (MS CHRISTINE M WHITE) Subject: LOOK Shut Up, everybody! I mean to offend no one, but this is getting a little out of hand. Lets stick to the main subject hear and that is Poe, if you are going to discuss other things, than please don't post them to get all the stupid people angry. Bringing up topics is fine, but the reply's should remain private (I'm sure I get plenty of responses to this post, but please just e-mail me privately, don't clutter up everybody's computer because of something I said. No One Cares!) Danke, Casey YOU'RE WRONG...PEOPLE DO CARE...AND IF THEY DON'T THEN I SHUDDER TO THINK WHAT OUR WORLD WOULD TRULY BE LIKE IF NO ONE CARED- LIKE YOU. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:25:05 -0700 (MST) From: Jarrod Subject: RE: The song How Long On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, CASEY HANSEN wrote: > It is a new song that was written after the "Hello" record came out. She > plays it a lot in concert and she did it on Modern Rock Live, for now you can > only get it on bootlegs, but hopefully it will become a B-side or on > something. I have it, its a good song > > Danke, > Casey > WWW.POE.ORG angry-psychos-request@smoe.org POE has said that How Long will be on the next album.... Jarrod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:16:32 -0600 (CST) From: jgofort@comp.uark.edu (Joseph H. Goforth) Subject: Re: poe poe and poe Ok..here's a response.....I don't know where the growth of her music will go. That is a ridiculous question to ask...please tell me where you achieve psychic abilities? I want to be one of those 900# psychics! :) Seriously though....It's hard to tell what will happen w/Poe and her music..just as hard as predicting the weather..so many factors involved that you can never know what will happen. I feel like many of the others about having more string instruments in the rock music.....kinda of like Rusted Root, eh? So if you really need some strong acoustics check out their wild music...hey..a Poe/Rusted Root combo? That'd be very interesting..... Joseph i want a response from everyone out there on the topic of poe's >music and personal growth as forseen by you for the next five-ten >years. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:41:33 -0600 From: John Beadle Subject: bad luck continues My computer just crashed last night. . . :( If you sent anything ever that's important, please forward. EVERYTHING is gone. - -Landon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:42:25 -0500 (EST) From: Nathan Wilder Subject: Re: First Concert On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 ITT2335@aol.com wrote: > Nobody good hardly EVER comes to middle Tennessee. Somebody tell Poe >that she's got a massive fan base here. > > Angry Jeremy Yeah, nobody good ever comes to east Tennessee either. So it would be great if Poe could do a show in Knoxville. Nathan Wilder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:19:28 -0500 (EST) From: Xoz@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe & Marilyn Manson...again In a message dated 97-01-15 23:36:24 EST, you write: << angry-psychos@smoe.org >> I THINK YOU ALL ARE REALLY PETTY FOR TRYING TO CRUCIFY ME JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPPINION THAN YOU. IN AMERICA WE HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I WOULD APRICIATE YOU NOT TRYING TO DEGRATE ME FOR MY OPPINION IN THE FUTURE. ITS CHILDISH. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:51:47 -0700 (MST) From: Jeff Starr Subject: Re: Poe & Marilyn Manson...again On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 Xoz@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-01-15 23:36:24 EST, you write: > > << angry-psychos@smoe.org >> > I THINK YOU ALL ARE REALLY PETTY FOR TRYING TO CRUCIFY ME JUST BECAUSE I HAVE > A DIFFERENT OPPINION THAN YOU. IN AMERICA WE HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I WOULD > APRICIATE YOU NOT TRYING TO DEGRATE ME FOR MY OPPINION IN THE FUTURE. ITS > CHILDISH. Maybe you could pry the caps-lock key off of your keyboard. That would make me happy. :) ********************** Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things * Jeff Starr * I cannot change, the courage to change the things * zonee@primenet.com * I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those * ZoneE@IRC * people I had to kill because they pissed me off. ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:31:19 -0600 From: "Matt Woodard" Subject: Hello Band Mix? Do any of you freakin angry psychos now where I could get my hands on a copy of the promo CD that has the bands mix of hello on it? Any help would be greatly appreciated for I truly need my daily fix of POE! Matt Woodard Opportunist ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:47:46 -0700 (MST) From: Jarrod Subject: SUICIDE WWW.POE.ORG angry-psychos-request@smoe.org Boom.... Out go the lights. I have thought really hard about this subject recently and for some Fucking reason I am still here. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 97 15:01:22 -0500 From: "Corpron, Anna" Subject: NPR:suicide - -- [ From: Corpron, Anna * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- To all AP's who have even thought about suicide...DON'T! I'm glad that you all are still here...I just want to say that suicide is not an answer to any problems that you are having. We all go through slumps, and there are many ways of coping. Talk to a friend, family member, or just anyone you can trust, don't even THINK of killing yourself, it's not only not going to help you, it's selfish! Think of everyone that you left behind, who will be wondering what on earth they could have done that would have prevented your suicide...Sorry for this rant, suicide is a very serious subject, and I wouldn't want to lose any friends because of it! LOVE YOU ALL! Anna - -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Boom.... Out go the lights. I have thought really hard about this subject recently and for some Fucking reason I am still here. - -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:56:20 -0500 From: BERNARD ALPERN <73214.1142@compuserve.com> Subject: pr: trying to spark up an interest in Poe I'm glad SOMEONE else here is interested in Poe! Anyhoo, let me tell you why a Poe concert is better than any other: 1)The audience is great 2)She's really interactive 3)She sounds great live 4)She does "Jane Says", which is really sweet because she's standong there singing her favorite song of all time to great audience There actually is one bad thing about a Poe concert, though. When you sign up for to be an Angry-Psycho, it never gets processed. Oh, well. Nothing's perfect... Yamit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:11:40 -0700 (MST) From: Jarrod Subject: Sorry... Just asking for attention. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:34:53 -0800 From: COCKYŽ Subject: Discography: Who ever was doing the poe discography, i finally located the cover of my cd that i got from calvin klein. It has "trigger happy jack (drive by a go go)" =20 It came out early in 1995, and had the following to say about our wonderfull glowing friend, poe:=09 "Poe- On her genre busting Atlantic debut, hello, Poe's thought provvoking lyrics and sexy-dangerous tone will take you from hard edged alternative rock to funky jazz-flavored dance-pop without missing a beat" Cocky=AE PS: I love to eat a steak, with my veggies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:38:47 -0800 From: COCKYŽ Subject: TAN Social D Rocked.... I moshed all night, suffered only minor injuries. w h o c a r e s cocky=AE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:34:34 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: Best Concert Poe stole the show when she was last here in Dallas...I also felt she stole the show from 311 when I saw her in Memphis...but of course I'm biased. Stage presence means a lot to me....which is something she has..just like how Gwen and No Doubt stole the show from Everclear when I saw them...Here's a random question..If Gwen and Poe got into a fight...who do you think would win?? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:39:55 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: Best Concert I only know that shadowboxing song by Fiona, but hey I didn't know anything about Poe the first time I saw her...I will let you all know how the show went when I go this Sat.... Christina ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:47:15 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: First Concert Hey she did go to Memphis....or is that to far to go? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:04:50 -0800 From: weh Subject: you all this is a good crowd like it or not. and even though some of us are full of shit, it's still good to know that poe would beat the shit out of gwen. oh yeah-you know she would, don't say it isn't so my first concert by the way was ac dc and jarrod-you seem like the type of person anyone would be sorry to lose-actually, from what iv'e heard on this mailline, all of you would be----but if any of you just need attention, walk through a busy university naked, that's what i do-- they may be laughing on the outside but they're probably laughing on the inside too. damnit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:13:35 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR:suicide suicide is a big cop-out..for people who can't face real life ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:14:23 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: TAN: Stop the insanity! I will survive?!? Man you can't do that to Gloria Gaynor..she's my woman..That's my song at any kareokebar I go to...do you think they have any Kareoke for poe songs anywhere?? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:20:40 +0000 From: "Anthony Amato" Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) Unsubcribing From: husselman@enter.net Organization: Enter.Net To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:27:07 4 Subject: Unsubcribing Reply-to: husselman@enter.net Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) content-length: 444 I have had enough of this immature crap! If this list ever resumes it's sanity, I would appreciate it if someone would let me know. I still want to remain in the neap mailing list. I still love Poe and would like to meet the other angry-pyschos even some of the offenders on this list. I would still like to be involved in future Tape Trees. Thanks to all. See ya. - ----- Sam ----- Sam's Poe Page http://www.enter.net/~husselman/poe.html Take care, Amato _____________________ \ / \ AA@worldnet.att.net / \ AAmato1@aol.com / \ AAmato@juno.com / \ AA@poe.org / \______________/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:31:54 -0500 From: J Myers Subject: Re: NPR:suicide CMOwnby@aol.com wrote: > > suicide is a big cop-out..for people who can't face real life exactly... consider it...uh... "The most selfish act humanly possible"...good place to start... Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 17:35:52 -0600 From: jenn@shd.com (Jenny Gessel of SHD - Smith/Harrison) Subject: Re: NPR:suicide Bullshit. Suicide is the result of a serious physical illness known as depression, and many people who attempt it can be helped by medications to balance out their chemical levels. Suicide is a cry for help from somebody who doesn't know what else to do; an escape from the harsh realities that life deals out. In short, suicide is not for people who can't face real life. Suicide IS real life. People who attempt suicide or even succeed are not mentally weak, just as people who are stricken with cancer are not mentally weak. They are simply not well. It is uninformed, prejudiced assumptions like "suicide is for people who can't face real life" that keep people who are considering suicide from getting the help that they need. CMOwnby@aol.com wrote: > > suicide is a big cop-out..for people who can't face real life ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:40:41 +0000 From: "Anthony Amato" Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Unsubcribing ***Please Read*** To ALL Angry Psychos, The previous message was not written by me, I only forwarded it. As most of you probably know, we have been have some conflicts on the list about all the non-Poe posts. I general don't care what people post to the angry psychos list, but when the posts start to have a negative impact on other subscriber, I think something has to be done. What I'm talking about is in the past few day I have received many unsubscribing notice (mostly due to the fact that mostly everyone is post non-Poe material to the list). I think I have to make some guidelines for posting to the list. What do you think? Do you agree or disagree with me? If you agree, let me know if you have any idea on what guidelines should be setup? Take care, Amato _____________________ \ / \ AA@worldnet.att.net / \ AAmato1@aol.com / \ AAmato@juno.com / \ AA@poe.org / \______________/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:42:54 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR:suicide WHOO WHOO!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:45:05 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR:suicide for some...but there are the others...not everyone who attempts suicide has the chemical imbalance.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:46:58 -0500 (EST) From: YellowDukk@aol.com Subject: Re: you all In a message dated 1/20/97 8:11:15 PM, you wrote: <> are we talking about gwen stefani here?? when did POE do that? brette ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:04:27 -0500 (EST) From: CMOwnby@aol.com Subject: Re: you all WE LOVE YOU JARROD.. Everythin gyou have done...is incredible... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:15:37 -0500 From: BERNARD ALPERN <73214.1142@compuserve.com> Subject: oh, by the way...(suicide) Just because one person (who just happened to be me) threatens to kill themselves if the list doesn't clear up it's act, doesn't mean that we should start a debate about suicide. Does that make any sense to you? Do you honestly think I'd rather hear you debate suicide than meat- eating? It's exactly the same. That was the point, remember? Once again, people: PRIVATE E-MAIL!!!! Yamit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:15:41 -0500 From: BERNARD ALPERN <73214.1142@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: NPR:suicide Um, no. That is so, so wrong-- in some cases. In some cases, you are right. Suicide is a cop-out for people that don't want to deal with life. It's ALSO a way to stop MAJOR pain. Have you ever really experienced real menatl pain that hurts your body aswell? Of course not. Then, you could never really understand what it's like to want to end your life right then and there. Some people just have problems in their lives, like moi. That doesn't mean I should kill myself. But you should at least be able to understand why I might want to before you make judgements and comments. Yamit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:21:58 -0500 From: BERNARD ALPERN <73214.1142@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: you all Has anybody noticed that Jarrod is not the one who actually THREATENED suicide? That was ME!.... Yamit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:45:08 -0500 From: Steve Molla Subject: Meat Everyone, I LIKE to eat meat. Hell, I LOVE the smell of Burger King as I drive by. Filet Migon is absolute heaven. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: Rebecca Lynn Clark Subject: NPR:Help I am a suicide survivor, i know that sounds retarded, but i am. if anyone wants to debate, or talk, or needs help about this subject, please email me privately: rc889@oak.cats.ohiou.edu I've been there and I know all there is to know, and i also know how to survive against all odds. email me if you need to talk. - -becky =) =================================== - Listen to PSYCHO on: - - New Rock ACRN 99.3 caFM - - or check out the web site: - - http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~acrn - =================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:47:44 -0800 From: weh Subject: Re: you all BERNARD ALPERN wrote: > > Has anybody noticed that Jarrod is not the one who actually THREATENED > suicide? That was ME!.... > > Yamit sorry about that bernard-- i don't think i was logged on at the time you did that---but again, if you need attention, do that naked thing at the university ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:15:43 -0800 From: weh Subject: Re: Poe & Marilyn Manson...again Xoz@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-15 23:36:24 EST, you write: > > << angry-psychos@smoe.org >> > I THINK YOU ALL ARE REALLY PETTY FOR TRYING TO CRUCIFY ME JUST BECAUSE I HAVE > A DIFFERENT OPPINION THAN YOU. IN AMERICA WE HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I WOULD > APRICIATE YOU NOT TRYING TO DEGRATE ME FOR MY OPPINION IN THE FUTURE. ITS > CHILDISH. how childish is it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:27:34 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph H. Goforth" Subject: Re: oh, by the way...(suicide) I agree with this little letter here....but, I'm wonderin how a discussion that went a little off on a tangent can lead you to suicide. If you're truly suicidal then there are definetly more factors than what's been going on here. Don't let others make your life miserable....because then you're not living your own life at all....your just living out other peoples' misery. Joseph On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, BERNARD ALPERN wrote: > Just because one person (who just happened to be me) threatens to kill > themselves if the list doesn't clear up it's act, doesn't mean that we > should start a debate about suicide. Does that make any sense to you? Do > you honestly think I'd rather hear you debate suicide than meat- eating? > It's exactly the same. That was the point, remember? > Once again, people: PRIVATE E-MAIL!!!! > > Yamit > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 13:42:11 -0800 From: mb882 Subject: CENSORSHIP may be coming... My fellow Angry Psychos,It was with great sadness I read Sam Husselmans Quit letter today,I consider him my friend.We must treat each other in a more civilized manner now,as change is in the wind.Rules ,regulations and censorship are being considered AS YOU READ THIS!Perhaps if we all,starting right now and right here,change our practices so that the restrictiions can be avoided.I am NOT writing this from a 'holier than thou' attitude,as I am JUST AS GUILTY as the meat,suicide,etc folks with my bullshit posts about the stock market,crack,and cops,etc.....Can you post "TAN"as the first word in your subject if it is not about Poe? Busy people can then Delete at will.Can we not REPRINT previous letters just to add 'me too' or 'that sucks'? It takes time to sift through the crap,mine included,and some people are busy. Perhaps if we ALL start doing these two SIMPLE THINGS this list will survive in its current form,free,untill Our Most Divine Goddess releases a new CD or goes on tour again,so we can all start talking about POE again.Thank all of you,Terry Rush Angry Terry. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:57:24, -0500 From: PLZP99A@prodigy.com (MS CHRISTINE M WHITE) Subject: suicide... Some dope wrote this... <<<< Subject: GOODBYE: From Landon, >From jbeadle@execpc.com Mon Jan 20 21:17:47 1997 Return-Path: Subject: GOODBYE I'm really sick of all this crap. Suicide, meat. I don't really give a crap if you kill yourself at this point, 'cause if whoever does they aren't leaving on good terms by killing this mailing list. Anyone want a serious list involving poe? mail me and we can all get together in a little group and work something out. Let me know 'cause I'm about two minutes away from unsubscribing. - -Landon, really sick of most of you guys, (WHAT WOULD POE THINK? ESPECIALLY AFTER THAT DISASTER OF A CHAT) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:09:51 -0500 From: John Gillis Subject: Rewind '96 Ok ok ok... I've been down in the dumps lately, so I've stayed away from the net. But, now I'm ready to do the Rewind thing! Does anyone else want in? If you don't get another message from me about this, then I don't know you want it. For those that weren't here when I started this, Rewind '96 was a program broadcasted on Westwood 1 radio network. It was basically a year in review, having songs from the year on it and it is hosted by Poe. It also has a new version (to me) of Angry Johnny. Anyone interested, please email me privately and I will send you a message thingy. :) ttyl, John - ------------------------------------------------- John Gillis johngill@usa1.com johngill@poe.org My Homepage: http://www1.usa1.com/~johngill/ - ------------------------------------------------- "I'm good enough but I don't care. The sun is out but I'm not there." Billy Corgan - Ugly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:46:08 -0500 From: BERNARD ALPERN <73214.1142@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: oh, by the way...(suicide) It's more than what's going on on this list, I'll just tell you that. But let's just say that I depend on my Psycho family for love when my blood related relatives don't give it to me, and neither was happening, so... Yamit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:21:49 +0000 From: "Random finger info" Subject: Re: Poe & Marilyn Manson...again > In a message dated 97-01-15 23:36:24 EST, you write: > > << angry-psychos@smoe.org >> > I THINK YOU ALL ARE REALLY PETTY FOR TRYING TO CRUCIFY ME JUST > BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPPINION THAN YOU. IN AMERICA WE HAVE > FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I WOULD APRICIATE YOU NOT TRYING TO DEGRATE ME > FOR MY OPPINION IN THE FUTURE. ITS CHILDISH. **blapp** Try again. Free speech in in the United States means that the federal and local governments must afford you a certain degree of free expression. The corollary to that is that everyone else is free to call you a stupid git. The 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee you an appreciative, or even receptive, audience. For that you must rely on your own wit and skill. (Considering the above, perhaps you should instead hold out for another Amendment.) Jason PS. As far as deciding posting policy on this list, the listowner can go pretty much any way he wants and be supported by a respectable portion of the list. Available options are: 1) strict POE-only news posts, ie turning the list into a POE information service. The most anal choice, but the one that would appeal most to the "leave me alone, I just want to know about new releases, concerts, and tape trees" folks. H/e, those folks don't ever seem to be the ones that actively go and gather information or organize tape trees. So in their desire to make the list convenient for themselves, they drive away the people that are providing them with the information in the first place. I don't know if this list has a news-only version, but the jewel list does. It's much better to have a separate news-only list that a moderator siphons posts than to kill the discussion list to make life easier for the lurker audience. 2) POE news and POE-related discussion. Much more free than 1) and would still allow pretty much all the content you would *expect* from a POE list. 3) POE news and POE-related discussion, and also free *music* discussion. Something I prefer more than 2) b/c it can be quite interesting to hear what others like. Also helps the list to be active at times when the artist involved is not. Very valuable if you are pre-college and living in the middle of East Bumfuck, Ohio, like much of this list seems to be. From hearing what other music POE fans like, you find out about groups and artists you otherwise would never have known of. 4) Free for all. I've responded to some of the more brain-dead off- topic posts, but personally the free-for-all type lists are mess and can end up being the personal playgrounds of certain individuals rather than artist-related. One list I'm on, for Sarah McLachlan, has decided to tell people that "This is NOT the Sarah McLachlan list anymore." Okay. Thanks. Very helpful. Would you like some french fries with that? The playground effect happens when a few dominant personalities take over and the rest of the list throws up its hands and says "screw it". I run a bunch of lists and find that I like 3) the best. Once and a while a list breaks into 4) and even I stop reading it. When the listowner stops reading his own list, eventually the listowner has to clear things out, so my lists don't often get to 4) and when they do those that plead the First Amendment are quickly instructed on the concept of "state action" and me, not being a state, telling them to shut up. 2) is pretty cool when you have people that are really into the artist/group and can keep a good discussion going just talking about that artist/group. I've got a couple of 2)'s and they're pretty cool. They can feel kind of cramped sometimes, though. I've never had a list that was a 1) type list, and if any of mine ever degenerated into that I would probably stop running the list and ask someone else to take over. Pretty long PS, huh? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:57:56 -0500 From: YellowDukk@aol.com Subject: angry-psycho love hey all. i've been reading my A-P mail all day...and it was all fighting!!! i don't think i heard any POE info all day. that's really sad. i'm closer to some people on this list then i am with people at school and it sucks that all we do here is fight now!! no matter how different we are, we all are brought together by one common interest...and that would be POE. if it wasn't for her, we wouldn't all know each other now... and many of us wouldn't have made the friends they did. just remember that, 'cuz i don't like to see this list BSing each other. i get enough of that in school! brette ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:34:46 -0600 (CST) From: "I. Dwayne Koonce" Subject: Re: Best Concert On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 CMOwnby@aol.com wrote: > Poe stole the show when she was last here in Dallas...I also felt she stole > the show from 311 when I saw her in Memphis...but of course I'm biased. Stage > presence means a lot to me....which is something she has..just like how Gwen > and No Doubt stole the show from Everclear when I saw them... When were No Doubt in Dallas? Or did you see them somewhere else? The only time I'm aware of them having been here is when they played "Just a Girl" at the Edge Christmas Concert '95 (raise you hand if your town has a radio station called the Edge...) in between bands. They weren't in the line-up; Gwen and Tom just happened to be there, I think. So the two of them came out, and blew the audience away with half a band and only one song. (Now _that's_ stage presence.) They were supposed to play Deep Ellum Live this past September, but that was "postponed" (in other words, canceled). Unfortunately, they're so big now they'll probably play an arena if they ever come back *sigh* ObPoeContent: > Here's a random question..If Gwen and Poe got into a fight...who do you > think would win?? Hmm...on the face it it, one might say Gwen--but she's said in interviews that she's not as tough as she looks, whereas those of us who've seen Poe crowdsurf and mosh know _she's_ tough... Yeah, Gwen'd probably get creamed. (Why does this sound like an idea for a Pay-Per-View special?) ____________________________________________________________________________ I. Dwayne Koonce E-mail: idk@metronet.com ____________________________________________________________________________ "I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." --Hunter S. Thompson ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V2 #27 **********************************