From: owner-angry-psychos-digest To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V1 #30 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, 11 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number 030 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Poe Shirt's Re: Poe Shirt's Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) Re: Poe Shirt's [Fwd: Re: Poe Shirt's] -- Why not Poe's shirt??? Re: Poe Shirt's Poe newsgroup Re: Poe Shirt's Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) [Fwd: Re: SHIRT INFO.] Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) Re: Poe Shirt's Re: Poe Shirt's Re: Poe Shirt's ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: husselman@enter.net Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 07:19:24 4 Subject: Poe Shirt's I really can't believe the last couple of posts from Landon. This sounds highly illegal and I would suggest someone offer genuine Poe merchandise to angry - psychos. It would be worth a couple of bucks more and nobody would get their ass in a sling. For Landon. Stop this( T- shirt sales) or you will regret it later. What you propose are sales not trades. This isn't a threat just trying to help you out. See ya. Sam http://www.enter.net/~husselman/poe.html Sam's Poe Page ------------------------------ From: "J.Beadle" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:52:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Poe Shirt's I really can't believe the last couple of posts from Landon. This sounds highly illegal and I would suggest someone offer genuine Poe merchandise to angry - psychos. It would be worth a couple of bucks more and nobody would get their ass in a sling. For Landon. Stop this( T- shirt sales) or you will regret it later. What you propose are sales not trades. This isn't a threat just trying to help you out. See ya. Sam http://www.enter.net/~husselman/poe.html Sam's Poe Page I am only offering the chance for the group to order one, I am getting one, I am not producing them. I am not making money off of them, And no one has told me where I can buy geuine stuff besides concerts. Untill someone does so, I am forced to make a replica of poe's shirts so I can wear one. What is wrond with printing some words on a shirt and wearing them to show I'm a fan of Poe? It is not illegal, and I am not running any orders, just telling people the prices theirs would cost. All it costs is the price of a shirt. But depending on what's on it, size, color, texture, it goes up. I am sick of all those who are telling me what I am doing is ripping money off poe, all I am doing is helping the Angry-Psycho's obtain a shirt 'cause they want one! I don't know ONE person on this list that has an authentic Poe shirt, and if someone does, then they are leaving me being badgered for telling people a way of getting one. If you are interested or have good comments, then say so. If you don't then BACK OFF. Even if it is illegal, which I highly doubt, it is one little T-shirt with the word PSYCHO Which has no copyrights, or a lyric line, which has copyrights, but no one would care!!!! I'm ripping so much money off of poe by making a shirt with some of her lyrics on it, she'd be happy that people are expressing such interest in her, not mad that she should have gotten a couple cents. One shirt probably gives her fifty cents. And if you're that concerned that I'm getting a whole fifty cents from Poe, tell me and I'll mail a dollar to her. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW. Again, to all of those who don't just get it: SHUT UP AND BACK OFF. Even go tell someone who's responsible for Poe's merchandise, I want you too, because I want to see them laugh in your face. Just because of all the messages telling me that I'm doing something illegal, and making money off of Poe, I'm just going to get one myself, and end this already. I gotta shell out $10 bucks of my own for one, and Not enough people on this list or giving me good comments. The only other people besides myself who I was going to give the information and numbers on how to get one were to some of the rest of the angry-psychos, but apparently only a couple of you are on my side. - -Landon, ready to leave this list - -Landon ------------------------------ From: schoon@thor.pla-net.net Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:01:09 -0600 Subject: Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) Hey everybody, I've got an idea to discuss with the list. Why not, instead of making a shirt just like Poe's, decide on a design for an Angry Psychos List T-Shirt. On the Jewel list, they turned out great. What we did was post designs to a webpage and then all agreed on one. (I've got the space to build a page for it if anybody's interested.) Jewel threw a concert for the list and somebody sold them there. He didn't make any money off of them... but then again neither did anybody else. It was just the idea of having a list shirt. We could give an extra to Poe as a gift. I bet she'd love it! What Do You Think? Mike schoon@pla-net.net ------------------------------ From: Robert Apslet Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 22:31:12 -0600 Subject: Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) schoon@thor.pla-net.net wrote: > > Hey everybody, > I've got an idea to discuss with the list. Why not, instead of making > a shirt just like Poe's, decide on a design for an Angry Psychos List > T-Shirt. On the Jewel list, they turned out great. What we did was > post designs to a webpage and then all agreed on one. (I've got the > space to build a page for it if anybody's interested.) > Jewel threw a concert for the list and somebody sold them there. He > didn't make any money off of them... but then again neither did anybody > else. It was just the idea of having a list shirt. > We could give an extra to Poe as a gift. I bet she'd love it! > What Do You Think? > Mike > schoon@pla-net.net Now i agree with this completley how babout an even simpler method of keeping the same idea fro the design of the "psycho" text, but then simply throw a "angry-" in front of it. We would look like everyone elses shirt but oh so much better. Sparkie sparkie@gte.net ------------------------------ From: Evilfrige Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:44:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Poe Shirt's Does anybody really think that this t-shirt deal will cause Poe or Atlantic Records to lose money? I know that someone would be kinda making money off Poe's name, but she would lose very little, if anything. If I could get official Poe merchandise I would. Even if I get a bootleg/unofficial t-shirt, I would still buy the first official Poe shirt that I saw. And I'm sure this is the case with most others(correct me if I'm wrong). And if there were a few people that got a bootleg shirt, then they decided that they only wanted one Poe shirt, that would cause Poe to lose money. But (assuming this would happen at all) her loss and atlantic records loss would be extremely small. This is so because only a few people are going to buy these t-shirts, and, as I stated before, most of those buyers would still probobly buy any official shirts that they could get. I realize that the makers/distributers of these bootleg shirts will make a small amount of money off Poe's name. But I don't really see anything terribly wrong with this. It may be the only way some of us can get Poe shirts. Plus, not all of the shirts actually say "Poe" on them. Although, some will say "you can't talk to a psycho...." I don't know if that is legal or not. Is it? But still, I don't know anybody that doesn't break the law. So if no one tells anybody about the bootleg shirts, nobody will get in trouble, and everyone can be happier. Remember, this is just my opinion. I'm not trying to piss anyone off. ------------------------------ From: Shad Clark Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:11:08 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Poe Shirt's] -- Why not Poe's shirt??? X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <325D3C07.4E6F@sundial.net> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:10:15 -0400 From: Shad Clark X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J.Beadle" Subject: Re: Poe Shirt's References: <199611101220.HAA28635@mail.enter.net> <32861664.4826@execpc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J. Beadle wrote: > I am only offering the chance for the group to order one, I am getting > one, I am not producing them. I am not making money off of them, And no > one has told me where I can buy geuine stuff besides concerts. Why do you lie? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Did you read my last email to you and the list? Hm? I suggested you go to your local independent record store and ask them to order a POE shirt for you the next time they order from Atlantic. Are you having a problem with this idea? If so, what sort of problem? It makes perfect sense. And I know from experience that it works. If you just want to make your own shirt, okay... fine... whatever. Go ahead... make your bootleg. DO NOT claim that no one told you where to buy an official one, though, when I know I told you to try Atlantic (the major label that POE is on). > Untill someone does so, I am forced to make a replica of poe's shirts so I can > wear one. You are FORCED? Someone is actuallly forcing you to bootleg the POE "psycho" shirt? Is that person armed? Should the proper authorities be notified? > What is wrond with printing some words on a shirt and wearing > them to show I'm a fan of Poe? Nothing is "wrond" with it but something is indeed wrong with it. > It is not illegal, and I am not running > any orders, just telling people the prices theirs would cost. All it > costs is the price of a shirt. But depending on what's on it, size, > color, texture, it goes up. Which world are you living in? If you offer to mass produce these shirts-- even if it's only for the people on this list-- it is highly illegal. By the way, the price you quoted is way too high anyway. You should only have to pay for the plain t-shirt and for the ink used in the print. Even if you plan to buy a really nice plain shirt, it shouldn't cost more than six or seven bucks. > I am sick of all those who are telling me > what I am doing is ripping money off poe, all I am doing is helping the > Angry-Psycho's obtain a shirt 'cause they want one! And we are sick of your posts regarding your shirt. If you want to make one for yourself, go ahead. Stop offering to overcharge everyone else for replicas of the "psycho" replica shirt you want for yourself. If you want ONE, make ONE. If anyone else wants one, she/he will surely know to contact you. > I don't know ONE > person on this list that has an authentic Poe shirt, You don't know one person on this list PERIOD. > she'd be happy that people are expressing such > interest in her, not mad that she should have gotten a couple cents. Oh... So now you know POE? You suddenly know what makes her happy? I was under the impression that you hadn't even seen a show. I do happen to know her and I'm willing to be there are others on the list that do, too. > ARE YOU HAPPY NOW. If that was meant to be a question, you should've ended it with a question mark. > Again, to all of those who don't just get it: SHUT UP AND BACK OFF. Oh, yes... I get it. "You can't talk to a psycho like a normal human being." > -Landon, ready to leave this list You're breaking my heart. Please don't go!!! Shad ------------------------------ From: Colin Smith Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:12:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Poe Shirt's Are there any Poe shirts that are just white with PSYCHO across them like she wears exactly?? ~Colin _A_nd i'm here to remind you of the mess you _L_eft when you went _A_way, it's _N_ot fa_I_r to deny me of the cro_S_s i bear that you gave to me. you you you oughta know _A_L_A_N_I_S_ (morissette) "you oughta know" ------------------------------ From: Evilfrige Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:38:13 -0500 Subject: Poe newsgroup Does anyone know what the Poe newsgroup is? I think it's alt.music.poe, but it doesn't show up on my news server. If that's the correct address how do I get idt to put the newsgroup up? ------------------------------ From: "J.Beadle" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:29:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Poe Shirt's NEW DEAL: I like the new idea to use an Angry-psycho design, and I have setup a space on my homepage, http://www.execpc.com/~jbeadle/poe/shirtdesign for the choices. I'd like to help with the printing of the shirts, but I'd like to do so without recieving hate-e-mail. So 1, if SHAD would get off my back, we can get back to a normal list. Mail me your designs, and I'll post them on the net. Thanks again! - -Landon ------------------------------ From: "J.Beadle" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:16:31 -0800 Subject: Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) Robert Apslet wrote: > > schoon@thor.pla-net.net wrote: > > > > Hey everybody, > > I've got an idea to discuss with the list. Why not, instead of making > > a shirt just like Poe's, decide on a design for an Angry Psychos List > > T-Shirt. On the Jewel list, they turned out great. What we did was > > post designs to a webpage and then all agreed on one. (I've got the > > space to build a page for it if anybody's interested.) > > Jewel threw a concert for the list and somebody sold them there. He > > didn't make any money off of them... but then again neither did anybody > > else. It was just the idea of having a list shirt. > > We could give an extra to Poe as a gift. I bet she'd love it! > > What Do You Think? > > Mike > > schoon@pla-net.net > Now i agree with this completley how babout an even simpler method of > keeping the same idea fro the design of the "psycho" text, but then > simply throw a "angry-" in front of it. We would look like everyone > elses shirt but oh so much better. > Sparkie > sparkie@gte.net I am for this idea as well, I was trying to do something like this, but since everyone was so cruel to my idea, this sounds better. - -landon ------------------------------ From: "J.Beadle" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:19:18 -0800 Subject: [Fwd: Re: SHIRT INFO.] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------36A7503736B8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is an example of one sane person on this list. Obviously someone can understand the phrase "If you don't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." It looks like angry-psycho's new logo on the shirt is supported, and again I offer to do it as I have before. Let me know, - -Landon - --------------36A7503736B8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: sparkie@gte.net Received: from mail.gte.net (sm1.gte.net [207.175.111.18]) by mail.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id KAA05794 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:39:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail1.gte.net (mail1.gte.net [206.124.65.236]) by mail.gte.net (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AutoCF) via ESMTP id KAA10829 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:39:09 -0600 Received: from rmasplet.gte.net by mail1.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA15088; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:38:56 -0600 Message-ID: <32855B9F.2EEB@gte.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 22:35:43 -0600 From: Sparkie Reply-To: sparkie@gte.net Organization: GTE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J.Beadle" Subject: Re: SHIRT INFO. References: <3285483B.183A@execpc.com> <3285381A.F3@mail.idt.net> <3285646A.2D8F@execpc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J.Beadle wrote: > > 1. No, shirts don't have to be white. Poe has them that way, but these > aren't poe's, they are are version of poe's, and we are not worthy to > wear the clothing of our goddess, but we can wear a similar item. . . > :P > > 2. EVERYONE WHO WANTS ONE, MAIL ME AND SAY YOUR NAME, AND ADDRESS. > PRICES ARE BETTER IF YOU BUY MORE. EXAMPLE: IF YOU BUY 1 SHIRT, IT WILL > BE ABOUT $13, THE PRICE OF A SHIRT AND S&H, IF YOU BUY 70 (YEAH RIGHT), > THEY WILL BE ABOUT 6 DOLLARS APIECE INSTEAD OF 10. > > 3. My relatives seem to be refusing just the psycho label, so Also tell > me what the shirt looks like. Long sleeves or short, color, what it says > and where. Popular seems to be "YOU CAN'T TALK TO A PSYCHO" in white on > the front, and "LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING" on the back in white on a > BLACK shirt. tell where and what text. The prices vary on the type of > shirt, i guess. That's the one I'm having done. They'll be anywhere > between 10-20 bucks, and NO I am NOT making money. If you want a picture > of poe or her logo, say so, but it won't look as good as a picture not > on a t-shirt, and it'll be in black and white. I say no problem! Lemme > know, > > BTW: If you got an x-large Black shirt that was short-sleves and said > "YOU CAN'T TALK TO A PSYCHO" on the front and "LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN > BEING" on the back, it would cost about ten or twelve bucks. if ten, > they'd make about fifty cents, if twelve, about two-fifty. They gotta > make a little bit as they are a business, and you would be customers. > The more writing and pictures, the more money. also, if you add on about > four bucks. We are in WI, if you live FAR away, it might be a little > more. So then it'd be about 14 or 16. Pretty cheap. I'm getting one for > free, because they're my relatives, :) BTW: I could get someone else one > for free, if y'all could help me with the sig. of poe's. It's hard, but > If someone could get me one, it'd be a prize. Thanks! > > -LANDON > -Landon Landon, Souns great i will please take one black with white letters, still kind of nudging towards the same text just toss in the "angry-" in front of the psychos. But either way i want one. When all the decisions are made please e-mail me back so i can send payment. Sparkie - --------------36A7503736B8-- ------------------------------ From: Evilfrige Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:12:52 -0500 Subject: Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) Would it be ok to put the cover of the Trigger Happy Jack single on the front of a list shirt? Then, it could say Angry Psychos on top of the pic. Would you consider that to be wrong? You probably would, but I think it would look really cool. ------------------------------ From: "J.Beadle" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:53:50 -0800 Subject: Re: List T-Shirts (just an idea) Evilfrige wrote: > > Would it be ok to put the cover of the Trigger Happy Jack single on the > front of a list shirt? Then, it could say Angry Psychos on top of the > pic. Would you consider that to be wrong? You probably would, but I > think it would look really cool. That would look cool, but pictures are hard to do and sometimes turn out bad. But, that is one of the bigger copyright issue things, one I think is big enough to make, since it involves an actual CD cover, instead of just words. . . - -Landon ------------------------------ From: Jarrod Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:48:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Poe Shirt's I agree with SAM. POE loves this list. Why jepordize potential contact frome her because of a few T-Shirts that we didn't buy from her. She loves this list. Two directions: 1. As somebody suggested earlier get a white T from K-Mart and a black pen and write psycho on it. 2. Be patient and believe that POE will offer special merchandise for us. Her Angry-Psychos... Thanks for my input.... Jarrod (PHX) On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 husselman@enter.net wrote: > I really can't believe the last couple of posts from Landon. > This sounds highly illegal and I would suggest someone offer genuine > Poe merchandise to angry - psychos. It would be worth a couple of > bucks more and nobody would get their ass in a sling. > > For Landon. Stop this( T- shirt sales) or you will regret it later. > What you propose are sales not trades. This isn't a threat just > trying to help you out. > > See ya. > > Sam > > http://www.enter.net/~husselman/poe.html > Sam's Poe Page > Until death due us; our paths have crossed. ------------------------------ From: Jarrod Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:56:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Poe Shirt's Until death due us; our paths have crossed. >I was going to give the information and numbers on how to get >one were to some of the rest of the angry-psychos, but apparently only a >couple of you are on my side. > >-Landon, ready to leave this list > >-Landon LANDON.... I don't think this is an issue of sides. Read others comments as suggestions and do whatever the F you want. As I see it, only you are getting pissed at the angr-psychos. We are not getting pissed at you. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to get some POE shwag... I personally am nervous. Sincerely, Jarrod (PHX) ------------------------------ From: Jarrod Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:03:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Poe Shirt's On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Evilfrige wrote: > Does anybody really think that this t-shirt deal will cause Poe or > Atlantic Records to lose money? I know that someone would be kinda > making money off Poe's name, but she would lose very little, if > anything. IT isn't a loss, per se. It is a moral issue for record companys. The love chasing people who mess with their business. T-Shirts is a big business. > If I could get official Poe merchandise I would. POE has said herself that it is coming. I know IT FOR A FACT! > Even if I > get a bootleg/unofficial t-shirt, I would still buy the first official > Poe shirt that I saw. And I'm sure this is the case with most > others(correct me if I'm wrong). And if there were a few people that > got a bootleg shirt, then they decided that they only wanted one Poe > shirt, that would cause Poe to lose money. But (assuming this would > happen at all) her loss and atlantic records loss would be extremely > small. (See above comment on money loss) > ... I don't know anybody that doesn't break the law. Logic of an anarchist. That crushes societies. Then you have to rebuild. > So > if no one tells anybody about the bootleg shirts, nobody will get in > trouble, and everyone can be happier. Remember, this is just my > opinion. I'm not trying to piss anyone off. > Correct... An opinion. We need to start learning this! Jarrod (PHX) Until death due us; our paths have crossed. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V1 #30 **********************************