From: owner-angry-psychos-digest To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V1 #9 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, 18 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Details magazine picture Re: Fandom insanity In Concert - New Rock Some people are just stupid. On Line Chat @ Atlantic Records site New Poe Fan Introduction Re: Fandom Insanity In response to your e-mail Re: Fandom insanity This is ridiculous RE: In response to your e-mail Re: Fandom insanity ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 02:29:55 EDT Subject: Details magazine picture just thought i'd let you know (in case you didn't) 2 pictures from that same (day, shoot, show, roll, etc.) were published in last month's vogue magazine.. the big one that looks like a book! - -rusty - ------------------------------------------------------------ come february 26, 1997 - let's hope that the "macarena" does not win a grammy. it would be an embassarsment for this entire country. agentorange2@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Thuan C Tran Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Fandom insanity Who are you or who are any of us to say that we are the only "true" Poe fans. What constitutes a true Poe fan? Is it just timing? Does it make someone less of a fan because he/she didn't hear of Poe until she got more airplay? Why would it? So someone didn't hear of her til she got popular. That's how the system works: you get popular, your music gets played, people hear it and people like it. Just because someone heard of the music later than you did, it doesn't mean that person enjoys or appreciates Poe and her music any less than you do. There's no expiration date on music. Besides, claiming so sanctimoniously that you are a true fan and others are not makes you the kind of elitist that Poe herself does not like. A fan is a fan is a fan, no matter when that fan became one. I didn't really like Poe until I heard "Angry Johnny," which was released well after "Hello" debuted. Does it mean I didn't like her until she became popular and that I only like her because she is popular? No, it just means I thought that "Angry Johnny" was a really, really, really great song and that "Trigger Happy Jack" isn't as good; so I didn't buy the album until I heard "Angry Johnny." Now, I love "Hello" and I love Poe, no matter how long the album had been out before I bought it. Furthermore and finally, Poe isn't as popular as you may think. Most people I talk to may have heard one of her songs, but few of them have any idea who Poe is. But what does popularity have to do with the quality of music, anyway? On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Bashir Eustache wrote: > When I first became interested in POE, she wasn't exactly huge around > here. 99x(Atlanta radio station) played Trigger Happy Jack from time to > time, but there weren't many requests and she wasn't all that big. I > loved her music. In her newfound popularity, I've received even more > insight into the world of Fandom. > > Poe still rocks. I still love her music, but it's a lot LESS intense > when you know that EVERYONE likes her. I'm struggling desperately not to > become one of those insane fans who write "You call yourself a POE fan? > I've been a POE fan for SO MUCH LONGER THAN YOU!" > > So here I am, stuck b/w the desire to have POE all to myself and wanting > her to be a success. Of course, I'm happy for her and I still love her > music(I don't listen to Angry Johnny anymore tho). > > Any commments? > Bashir Eustache > http://www.duke.edu/~bee2 > > Post scriptum: I did an online interview w/ Poe a couple of months ago. > It's pretty cool and I'll send it when my computer gets fixed(unless I > never get my HD up). > Bashir again > ------------------------------ From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 02:29:32 EDT Subject: In Concert - New Rock > funny.. i got a reply from the guy who i faxed about the "in >concert" cd > >In concert CD? Tell me more! in concert - new rock is a nationally syndicated radio show. it is on once a week, normally on a fri. or sat. night.... the westwood one radio network produces them. the shows are taped with all permission from all people who need permission to be gotten from (etc. etc.)... they release cd's of the show to the radio stations who air the show... works just like a promo cd single.. i found a copy of the show that poe did in the magazine "goldmine" (record collecting magazine).. i am ordering it this week. the entire cd is her.... (even comes withthe national commercials!)... i have decided to do a tape tree of this show.... i will post more info about it later... like when i actually have the cd in my hands and can give track listings and everything.... the purpose of the tape tree is so that anyone on this list who wants to hear it, can, and won't have to spend $25 to get a copy of it.... if anyone is interested in this idea, let me know. - -rusty ------------------------------ From: Bashir Eustache Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Some people are just stupid. On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Thuan C Tran wrote: > Who are you or who are any of us to say that we are the only "true" Poe > fans. What constitutes a true Poe fan? Is it just timing? Does it make > someone less of a fan because he/she didn't hear of Poe until she got > more airplay? 1. I never even USED the term TRUE POE FAN. 2. I never said other people are LESS valuable fans. I said that "it's a loss LESS intense when you know everyone likes her." There's a feeling of coolness associated w/ groups who aren't very popular. > Why would it? So someone didn't hear of her til she got > popular. That's how the system works: you get popular, your music gets > played, people hear it and people like it. Just because someone heard of > the music later than you did, it doesn't mean that person enjoys or > appreciates Poe and her music any less than you do. There's no > expiration date on music. What the FUCK are you talking about? It looks to me like you picked out a few choice words from my email and decided that you got "the gist" and that you could precede to flame me. > Besides, claiming so sanctimoniously that you > are a true fan and others are not makes you the kind of elitist that Poe > herself does not like. A fan is a fan is a fan, no matter when that fan > became one. Are you pulling this all out of your ass? I double-fricking-dog(children could see this y'know) dare you to find a place where I claimed to be a better fan, a true fan, a real fan. Geez, I'm not even a really old fan. In my email I SAID I miss the feeling of ownership that goes along w/ being one of the few fans. That doesn't mean that I'm not happy for Poe, happy for you for discovering POE and happy for the radiostations for finding something new to overplay. > I didn't really like Poe until I heard "Angry Johnny," which was released > well after "Hello" debuted. Does it mean I didn't like her until she > became popular and that I only like her because she is popular? No, it > just means I thought that "Angry Johnny" was a really, really, really > great song and that "Trigger Happy Jack" isn't as good; so I didn't buy > the album until I heard "Angry Johnny." Now, I love "Hello" and I love > Poe, no matter how long the album had been out before I bought it. Thanks for the info. Everythings so much clearer now. Before I thought you were a blithering idiot with nothing to do w/ your time, but send flames to people who didn't even disagree w/ you. > Furthermore and finally, Poe isn't as popular as you may think. Most > people I talk to may have heard one of her songs, but few of them have > any idea who Poe is. But what does popularity have to do with the > quality of music, anyway? Oh. Keep the crappy flames out of my box until you get something poignant to say, Bashir BTW, Trigger happy jack is better than Angry Johnny. > On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Bashir Eustache wrote: > > > When I first became interested in POE, she wasn't exactly huge around > > here. 99x(Atlanta radio station) played Trigger Happy Jack from time to > > time, but there weren't many requests and she wasn't all that big. I > > loved her music. In her newfound popularity, I've received even more > > insight into the world of Fandom. > > > > Poe still rocks. I still love her music, but it's a lot LESS intense > > when you know that EVERYONE likes her. I'm struggling desperately not to > > become one of those insane fans who write "You call yourself a POE fan? > > I've been a POE fan for SO MUCH LONGER THAN YOU!" > > > > So here I am, stuck b/w the desire to have POE all to myself and wanting > > her to be a success. Of course, I'm happy for her and I still love her > > music(I don't listen to Angry Johnny anymore tho). > > > > Any commments? > > Bashir Eustache > > http://www.duke.edu/~bee2 > > > > Post scriptum: I did an online interview w/ Poe a couple of months ago. > > It's pretty cool and I'll send it when my computer gets fixed(unless I > > never get my HD up). > > Bashir again > > > ------------------------------ From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:06:35 EDT Subject: On Line Chat @ Atlantic Records site hey- not sure if i'll be able to go or not, but one of you who does happen to plug in to it, please tell her about our nifty list here and give her the address... knowing poe, she'll probably write something to us one day! - -rusty (i'm sure she'll get a kick out of the angry-pshycos name!) ------------------------------ From: madhattr@cobweb.net Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:34:41 -0700 Subject: New Poe Fan Hello all you angry psychos, I guess it's time for me to introduce myself. I'm a 14 year old performing/visual arts student at Hopewell Senior High (Near Pittsburgh, PA). I never seen Poe in concert before, but I've been a poe fan since I saw an ad for her debut Cd in request magazine. If anybody has any Quicktime Movie's(or any ather kind), pictures, or lyrics; could you please e-mail them to me[madhatter@cobweb.net]. Thanks. Rick P.S.-Check out my homepage. http://www.geocities.com/Paris/3407/ ------------------------------ From: "Gilbert, Paul ('98)" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:45:00 PDT Subject: Introduction I am 16 years old, at St. Paul's School in Baltimore MD. The other bands I listen to are mostly electro or industrial: Apoptygma Berzerk, Skinny Puppy Front 242 Front Line Assembly Underworld Numb Good Courage Regenerator... A lot more pgilbert@clark.net www.clark.net/pub/pgilbert/ ------------------------------ From: "Gilbert, Paul ('98)" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:53:00 PDT Subject: Re: Fandom Insanity No no no that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about how to deal with all of the damn kids who are going to listen to her just because she is on MTV or the popular kids at school listen. I wasn't talking about everyone. Sheesh. ---------- From: owner-angry-psychos To: Bashir Eustache Cc: angry-psychos Subject: Re: Fandom insanity Date: Friday, October 18, 1996 1:02AM Who are you or who are any of us to say that we are the only "true" Poe fans. What constitutes a true Poe fan? Is it just timing? Does it make someone less of a fan because he/she didn't hear of Poe until she got more airplay? Why would it? So someone didn't hear of her til she got popular. That's how the system works: you get popular, your music gets played, people hear it and people like it. Just because someone heard of the music later than you did, it doesn't mean that person enjoys or appreciates Poe and her music any less than you do. There's no expiration date on music. Besides, claiming so sanctimoniously that you are a true fan and others are not makes you the kind of elitist that Poe herself does not like. A fan is a fan is a fan, no matter when that fan became one. I didn't really like Poe until I heard "Angry Johnny," which was released well after "Hello" debuted. Does it mean I didn't like her until she became popular and that I only like her because she is popular? No, it just means I thought that "Angry Johnny" was a really, really, really great song and that "Trigger Happy Jack" isn't as good; so I didn't buy the album until I heard "Angry Johnny." Now, I love "Hello" and I love Poe, no matter how long the album had been out before I bought it. Furthermore and finally, Poe isn't as popular as you may think. Most people I talk to may have heard one of her songs, but few of them have any idea who Poe is. But what does popularity have to do with the quality of music, anyway? On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Bashir Eustache wrote: > When I first became interested in POE, she wasn't exactly huge around > here. 99x(Atlanta radio station) played Trigger Happy Jack from time to > time, but there weren't many requests and she wasn't all that big. I > loved her music. In her newfound popularity, I've received even more > insight into the world of Fandom. > > Poe still rocks. I still love her music, but it's a lot LESS intense > when you know that EVERYONE likes her. I'm struggling desperately not to > become one of those insane fans who write "You call yourself a POE fan? > I've been a POE fan for SO MUCH LONGER THAN YOU!" > > So here I am, stuck b/w the desire to have POE all to myself and wanting > her to be a success. Of course, I'm happy for her and I still love her > music(I don't listen to Angry Johnny anymore tho). > > Any commments? > Bashir Eustache > http://www.duke.edu/~bee2 > > Post scriptum: I did an online interview w/ Poe a couple of months ago. > It's pretty cool and I'll send it when my computer gets fixed(unless I > never get my HD up). > Bashir again > ------------------------------ From: madhattr@cobweb.net Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:02:47 -0700 Subject: In response to your e-mail This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------699672AC52D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Paul Gilbert, I certainly hope you weren't referring to me when you said all those damn kids in you message. For your information, I'm one of three people who listen to Poe in my entire school. In fact, if you ask someone from my school who poe is, they'll probably say some dead writer guy. Oh yoeah, I watch MTV all the time and I've never seen poe on MTV. - --------------699672AC52D6 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-UIDL: 61ec6d5ddab25400e510e7857018c4ef Received: from relay1.shore.net by michelle.cobweb.net (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Aug96-0824PM) id AA32366; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:56:34 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by relay1.shore.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19420; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by smoe.org (4.1/SMI-4.1-hack1) id AA25520; Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:57:18 EDT Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:57:18 -0400 Received: by smoe.org (4.1/SMI-4.1-hack1) id AA25507; Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:57:15 EDT Received: from mail3.access.digex.net by smoe.org (4.1/SMI-4.1-hack1) id AA25501; Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:57:10 EDT Received: from bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us (bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us [206.205.31.25]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA13657 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <3267C69C@bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us>; Fri, 18 Oct 96 11:04:12 PDT From: "Gilbert, Paul ('98)" To: Poe List Post Subject: Re: Fandom Insanity Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:53:00 PDT Message-Id: <3267C69C@bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us> Encoding: 64 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 No no no that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about how to deal with all of the damn kids who are going to listen to her just because she is on MTV or the popular kids at school listen. I wasn't talking about everyone. Sheesh. ---------- From: owner-angry-psychos To: Bashir Eustache Cc: angry-psychos Subject: Re: Fandom insanity Date: Friday, October 18, 1996 1:02AM Who are you or who are any of us to say that we are the only "true" Poe fans. What constitutes a true Poe fan? Is it just timing? Does it make someone less of a fan because he/she didn't hear of Poe until she got more airplay? Why would it? So someone didn't hear of her til she got popular. That's how the system works: you get popular, your music gets played, people hear it and people like it. Just because someone heard of the music later than you did, it doesn't mean that person enjoys or appreciates Poe and her music any less than you do. There's no expiration date on music. Besides, claiming so sanctimoniously that you are a true fan and others are not makes you the kind of elitist that Poe herself does not like. A fan is a fan is a fan, no matter when that fan became one. I didn't really like Poe until I heard "Angry Johnny," which was released well after "Hello" debuted. Does it mean I didn't like her until she became popular and that I only like her because she is popular? No, it just means I thought that "Angry Johnny" was a really, really, really great song and that "Trigger Happy Jack" isn't as good; so I didn't buy the album until I heard "Angry Johnny." Now, I love "Hello" and I love Poe, no matter how long the album had been out before I bought it. Furthermore and finally, Poe isn't as popular as you may think. Most people I talk to may have heard one of her songs, but few of them have any idea who Poe is. But what does popularity have to do with the quality of music, anyway? On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Bashir Eustache wrote: > When I first became interested in POE, she wasn't exactly huge around > here. 99x(Atlanta radio station) played Trigger Happy Jack from time to > time, but there weren't many requests and she wasn't all that big. I > loved her music. In her newfound popularity, I've received even more > insight into the world of Fandom. > > Poe still rocks. I still love her music, but it's a lot LESS intense > when you know that EVERYONE likes her. I'm struggling desperately not to > become one of those insane fans who write "You call yourself a POE fan? > I've been a POE fan for SO MUCH LONGER THAN YOU!" > > So here I am, stuck b/w the desire to have POE all to myself and wanting > her to be a success. Of course, I'm happy for her and I still love her > music(I don't listen to Angry Johnny anymore tho). > > Any commments? > Bashir Eustache > http://www.duke.edu/~bee2 > > Post scriptum: I did an online interview w/ Poe a couple of months ago. > It's pretty cool and I'll send it when my computer gets fixed(unless I > never get my HD up). > Bashir again > - --------------699672AC52D6-- ------------------------------ From: axz113@psu.edu (adam zadok) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:36:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Fandom insanity At 1:02 AM 10/18/96, Thuan C Tran wrote: >Who are you or who are any of us to say that we are the only "true" Poe >fans. What constitutes a true Poe fan? Is it just timing? Does it make >someone less of a fan because he/she didn't hear of Poe until she got >more airplay? Why would it? So someone didn't hear of her til she got >popular. That's how the system works: you get popular, your music gets >played, people hear it and people like it. Just because someone heard of >the music later than you did, it doesn't mean that person enjoys or >appreciates Poe and her music any less than you do. There's no >expiration date on music. Besides, claiming so sanctimoniously that you >are a true fan and others are not makes you the kind of elitist that Poe >herself does not like. A fan is a fan is a fan, no matter when that fan >became one. > >I didn't really like Poe until I heard "Angry Johnny," which was released >well after "Hello" debuted. Does it mean I didn't like her until she >became popular and that I only like her because she is popular? No, it >just means I thought that "Angry Johnny" was a really, really, really >great song and that "Trigger Happy Jack" isn't as good; so I didn't buy >the album until I heard "Angry Johnny." Now, I love "Hello" and I love >Poe, no matter how long the album had been out before I bought it. > >Furthermore and finally, Poe isn't as popular as you may think. Most >people I talk to may have heard one of her songs, but few of them have >any idea who Poe is. But what does popularity have to do with the >quality of music, anyway? > >On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Bashir Eustache wrote: > >> When I first became interested in POE, she wasn't exactly huge around >> here. 99x(Atlanta radio station) played Trigger Happy Jack from time to >> time, but there weren't many requests and she wasn't all that big. I >> loved her music. In her newfound popularity, I've received even more >> insight into the world of Fandom. >> >> Poe still rocks. I still love her music, but it's a lot LESS intense >> when you know that EVERYONE likes her. I'm struggling desperately not to >> become one of those insane fans who write "You call yourself a POE fan? >> I've been a POE fan for SO MUCH LONGER THAN YOU!" >> >> So here I am, stuck b/w the desire to have POE all to myself and wanting >> her to be a success. Of course, I'm happy for her and I still love her >> music(I don't listen to Angry Johnny anymore tho). >> >> Any commments? >> Bashir Eustache >> http://www.duke.edu/~bee2 >> >> Post scriptum: I did an online interview w/ Poe a couple of months ago. >> It's pretty cool and I'll send it when my computer gets fixed(unless I >> never get my HD up). >> Bashir again >> Right on bro!! I used to get the same criticisms about nirvana and all my friends told me that I listened to it 'cause curt died and that I wasn't a true fan. Is it my fault that I don't live in seattle? I still listen to nirvana every signle day and still love the music even if it's the same song every day. I think that Thuan is right on the money: a fan is a fan is a fan. Let's just enjoy Poe's music and not worry about petty things such as "true fans." ------------------------------ From: Tricia Ondrako Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:48:30 -0400 Subject: This is ridiculous I can't believe that we are arguing. I think it's quite ridiculous. I love Poe, and I can identify with both sides of this debate. On the = other hand, isn't this a Poe fan club. People wouldn't join if they = didn't like her music, whether it be "popular" or not. Why can't we all = just get along, and enjoy Poe's music. --Tricia ------------------------------ From: "Gilbert, Paul ('98)" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 13:06:00 PDT Subject: RE: In response to your e-mail No, she isn't that popular yet, so I probably wasn't referring to you. But she is on Alternative Nation all the time. But eventually she will probably be really popular and every dork in your school (NOT YOU) will be listening. I know they will be in my school. But I think I can deal with it. Sorry if I offended you. Paul ---------- From: owner-angry-psychos To: angry-psychos Subject: In response to your e-mail Date: Friday, October 18, 1996 11:02AM This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------699672AC52D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Paul Gilbert, I certainly hope you weren't referring to me when you said all those damn kids in you message. For your information, I'm one of three people who listen to Poe in my entire school. In fact, if you ask someone from my school who poe is, they'll probably say some dead writer guy. Oh yoeah, I watch MTV all the time and I've never seen poe on MTV. --------------699672AC52D6 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-UIDL: 61ec6d5ddab25400e510e7857018c4ef Received: from relay1.shore.net by michelle.cobweb.net (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Aug96-0824PM) id AA32366; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:56:34 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by relay1.shore.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19420; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by smoe.org (4.1/SMI-4.1-hack1) id AA25520; Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:57:18 EDT Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:57:18 -0400 Received: by smoe.org (4.1/SMI-4.1-hack1) id AA25507; Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:57:15 EDT Received: from mail3.access.digex.net by smoe.org (4.1/SMI-4.1-hack1) id AA25501; Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:57:10 EDT Received: from bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us (bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us [206.205.31.25]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA13657 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <3267C69C@bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us>; Fri, 18 Oct 96 11:04:12 PDT From: "Gilbert, Paul ('98)" To: Poe List Post Subject: Re: Fandom Insanity Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:53:00 PDT Message-Id: <3267C69C@bw2.stpauls.pvt.k12.md.us> Encoding: 64 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 No no no that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about how to deal with all of the damn kids who are going to listen to her just because she is on MTV or the popular kids at school listen. I wasn't talking about everyone. Sheesh. ---------- From: owner-angry-psychos To: Bashir Eustache Cc: angry-psychos Subject: Re: Fandom insanity Date: Friday, October 18, 1996 1:02AM Who are you or who are any of us to say that we are the only "true" Poe fans. What constitutes a true Poe fan? Is it just timing? Does it make someone less of a fan because he/she didn't hear of Poe until she got more airplay? Why would it? So someone didn't hear of her til she got popular. That's how the system works: you get popular, your music gets played, people hear it and people like it. Just because someone heard of the music later than you did, it doesn't mean that person enjoys or appreciates Poe and her music any less than you do. There's no expiration date on music. Besides, claiming so sanctimoniously that you are a true fan and others are not makes you the kind of elitist that Poe herself does not like. A fan is a fan is a fan, no matter when that fan became one. I didn't really like Poe until I heard "Angry Johnny," which was released well after "Hello" debuted. Does it mean I didn't like her until she became popular and that I only like her because she is popular? No, it just means I thought that "Angry Johnny" was a really, really, really great song and that "Trigger Happy Jack" isn't as good; so I didn't buy the album until I heard "Angry Johnny." Now, I love "Hello" and I love Poe, no matter how long the album had been out before I bought it. Furthermore and finally, Poe isn't as popular as you may think. Most people I talk to may have heard one of her songs, but few of them have any idea who Poe is. But what does popularity have to do with the quality of music, anyway? On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Bashir Eustache wrote: > When I first became interested in POE, she wasn't exactly huge around > here. 99x(Atlanta radio station) played Trigger Happy Jack from time to > time, but there weren't many requests and she wasn't all that big. I > loved her music. In her newfound popularity, I've received even more > insight into the world of Fandom. > > Poe still rocks. I still love her music, but it's a lot LESS intense > when you know that EVERYONE likes her. I'm struggling desperately not to > become one of those insane fans who write "You call yourself a POE fan? > I've been a POE fan for SO MUCH LONGER THAN YOU!" > > So here I am, stuck b/w the desire to have POE all to myself and wanting > her to be a success. Of course, I'm happy for her and I still love her > music(I don't listen to Angry Johnny anymore tho). > > Any commments? > Bashir Eustache > http://www.duke.edu/~bee2 > > Post scriptum: I did an online interview w/ Poe a couple of months ago. > It's pretty cool and I'll send it when my computer gets fixed(unless I > never get my HD up). > Bashir again > --------------699672AC52D6-- ------------------------------ From: "Gilbert, Paul ('98)" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 13:08:00 PDT Subject: Re: Fandom insanity I'm not saying anyone isn't a true fan. I've never seen her live. Some people would say that therefore I am not a true fan. I don't buy that, and don't want to put it on anyone else. That's bullshit. I'm not an elitist, and sorry if I sounded like one. ---------- From: owner-angry-psychos To: Thuan C Tran; Bashir Eustache Cc: angry-psychos Subject: Re: Fandom insanity Date: Friday, October 18, 1996 12:36PM Right on bro!! I used to get the same criticisms about nirvana and all my friends told me that I listened to it 'cause curt died and that I wasn't a true fan. Is it my fault that I don't live in seattle? I still listen to nirvana every signle day and still love the music even if it's the same song every day. I think that Thuan is right on the money: a fan is a fan is a fan. Let's just enjoy Poe's music and not worry about petty things such as "true fans." ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V1 #9 *********************************