From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V11 #565 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, June 23 2007 Volume 11 : Number 565 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MI5 Persecution: Grievous Bodily Harm 2/10/95 (1727) [MI5Victim@mi5.gov.u] MI5 Persecution: Shoot to Kill 4/4/96 (12325) [MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk] MI5 Persecution: Do they fear truth? 3/10/95 (3241) [MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk] MI5 Persecution: Email Cruelty 11/3/96 (10811) [MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk] MI5 Persecution: Jeff Rooker MP 5/3/96 (9297) [MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk] MI5 Persecution: Dihydrocodeine 26/11/95 (6269) [MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk] MI5 Persecution: A new Kafka? 3/10/95 (4755) [MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Jun 2007 01:47:06 GMT From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk Subject: MI5 Persecution: Grievous Bodily Harm 2/10/95 (1727) From: jeibisch@revolver.demon.co.uk (James Eibisch) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.politics,uk.media,rec.arts.tv.uk.misc Subject: Re: Auntie gets it in the emails Reply-To: jeibisch@revolver.demon.co.uk Date: Mon Oct 2 19:44:19 1995 lig0007@queens-belfast.ac.uk (TOM OATES) wrote: >However, I'm pleased to say that, in the past couple of days, Mike Corley has >stopped doing it and he appears (I say this cautiously) to be acting more >reasonably. True, his postings are still based on paranoid delusions. >However, so long as he doesn't go back to his old practices of multiple, >identical, unreadable postings, I'm sure that most people on this newsgroup >are willing to put up with him. Time to come out of the woodwork of this thread (or variations thereof)... I find it annoying that discussion of Mike's situation is spread over multiple threads - it makes it hard to follow, and especially to follow up. If it could be consolidated into one thread on relevant newsgroups (I'm reading this on uk.media btw). I'm a little surprised with the volume of abuse Mike has received, but believe strongly in freedom of speech if such a thing were to exist, which clearly includes abuse as much as anything. One thing which has been missing from this discussion is this simple prognosis: that maybe Mike is right and that, despite his admitted mental condition, there really is a campaign against him organised by now-influential ex-students of his university. Does anyone remember the TV series GBH, a fictional account of security service and governmental power games? Fictional, certainly, but one of the most powerful pieces of TV drama I've seen in many years, fascinating and quite believable, even. The fact is, as Mike has pointed out (oh, so many times :-), that the security services _do_ have the influence, contacts, resources, and time to conduct such a campaign of surveillance and even psychological terror if they so chose. If they have this power, then they will surely use it We still don't have all the facts from Mike, and the most pertinent here I think would be about his time at university - the people who took against him, the ringleaders. We need to know far more about Mike: his political and social affiliations, put in context with his univeristy years, the enemies he made, the reasons people ganged up on him at the very early stages. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories generally, but I know there is far more that goes on in the universities, old boy's clubs, civil and secret services and Parliament than is ever made public. Mike, I leave it to you to construct a _single_ thread in a relevant newsgroup about this topic and keep to this thread to give us new information and answer questions about your situation. Ignore the 'Mike Corley is a nutter' posts unless they are relevant. Give us more detail. Who knows? It may be true, stranger things have happened. _ James Eibisch ('v') N : E : T : A : D : E : L : I : C : A Reading, U.K. (,_,) http://metro.turnpike.net/J/jeibisch/ ======= - ------------------------------- Tue, 03 Oct 1995 04:01:34 uk.misc Thread 3 of 14 Lines 58 Re: Auntie gets it in the emails Respno 16 of 16 J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk John J Smith at Fujitsu Telecommunications Europe Ltd In article <812677261.12841@revolver.demon.co.uk>, James Eibisch wrote: >lig0007@queens-belfast.ac.uk (TOM OATES) wrote: >One thing which has been missing from this discussion is this simple >prognosis: that maybe Mike is right and that, despite his admitted >mental condition, there really is a campaign against him organised by >now-influential ex-students of his university. We're trying to find this out on uk.misc. He's posted some *new* *huge* replies (which I'd have to give up my day job to reply to), detailing some things like: a) Mike Corley is *not* his real name b) Exactly what the "abuse" is (it seems be such things, as taking completely unrelated newspaper articles, striving to make them a disgusting insult, then redirecting against himself). c) How he came to the conclusion. I think he's doing rather better nowadays.. >Does anyone remember the TV series GBH, a fictional account of security >service and governmental power games? Fictional, certainly, but one of >the most powerful pieces of TV drama I've seen in many years, >fascinating and quite believable, even. This would be a point, apart from the fact that this was directed against someone of political importance. I don't believe Mike is... >The fact is, as Mike has pointed out (oh, so many times :-), that the >security services _do_ have the influence, contacts, resources, and time >to conduct such a campaign of surveillance and even psychological terror >if they so chose. If they have this power, then they will surely use it >at some point against some people. It appears he has formed the Security Service conclusion, because they are the only ones capable of doing it. A "searching for an enemy capable of it". >We still don't have all the facts from Mike, and the most pertinent here >I think would be about his time at university - the people who took >against him, the ringleaders. We need to know far more about Mike: his >political and social affiliations, put in context with his univeristy >years, the enemies he made, the reasons people ganged up on him at the >very early stages. I'm beginning to think that we never will get all the facts from Mike. We may, however, get enough... >Mike, I leave it to you to construct a _single_ thread in a relevant >newsgroup about this topic and keep to this thread to give us new >information and answer questions about your situation. Ignore the 'Mike >Corley is a nutter' posts unless they are relevant. Uk.misc, me boy... Smid ========================================================== From: flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Kr|ger) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.media,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: What it's like to be watched by the security services Date: Tue Oct 3 15:41:54 1995 In article <44rrrh$t6v@news.ox.ac.uk>, idaniel@jesus.ox.ac.uk (Illtud Daniel) says: > >And what do you mean when you state that the symptoms are too >'textbook'? Are the textbooks wrong? I think what is meant by 'textbook' is that some of the symptoms of 'illness' displayed in the posts seem to have been lifted from textbooks describing mental instability and personality disorders. I must admit I haven't seen Mike's postings before has he only just started posting again? Peter Kruger - ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.gold.net/flames/ flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk 1727 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 2007 03:13:25 GMT From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk Subject: MI5 Persecution: Shoot to Kill 4/4/96 (12325) Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british From: jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: How and Why Did it Start? Reply-To: jbaker@pobox.com Date: Thu Apr 4 05:03:01 1996 jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) wrote: >bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wrote: >>Why would >>the security services expend hundreds of thousands of pounds and more than fiv >>years of manpower to try to kill a British citizen? Because ... >So why didn't they just shoot you dead? >It would have been a lot cheaper. Please make the effort to respond to this point Mike. It was a serious question. Jill (my opinions are entirely my own, no-one else's) ================================================================= Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: How and Why Did it Start? Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british Followup-To: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british References: Organization: Toronto Free-Net Distribution: jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) wrote: >bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wrote: >>Why would >>the security services expend hundreds of thousands of pounds and more than fiv >>years of manpower to try to kill a British citizen? Because ... >So why didn't they just shoot you dead? >It would have been a lot cheaper. I think there are two reasons nobody has taken physical action as opposed to verbal; a) A lot of people "know". Perhaps you the reader might not know, but lots of people in the media etc do. Remember, I was born in the UK and lived there until a couple of years ago. I don't think these people would condone state-sponsored murder of someone who might be seen on a good day as one of their own. b) Rather than doind anything directly, they're going for spying, verbal harassment, media harassment, every form of persecution short of the physical. Because as soon as anything turns physical, the police become involved; and unless it turns physical, the police can shrug and say 'not our problem'. So they persecute you and try to get you to react, either by hitting one of them (in which case I clearly find myself in the wrong as far as the police are concerned), or by trying to harm myself (in which case they can pretend they weren't responsible). It's a pretty unproductive form of harassment actually, because if you don't react then they're wasting they're time. Or perhaps they're just cheap bullies and trying to wreck someone's life, without any ulterior motive? 12325 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 2007 02:01:45 GMT From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk Subject: MI5 Persecution: Do they fear truth? 3/10/95 (3241) From: flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Kr|ger) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.politics,alt.politics.british Subject: Re: What it's like to be watched by the security services Date: 3 Oct 1995 15:38:20 GMT Organization: Steinkrug Publications Lines: 66 Message-ID: <44rldc$nrm@news.cityscape.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: aa040.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ In article , bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) says: > >It completely mystifies me how it can be done. One night in June 1992 I >was in a bed-and-breakfast in Oxford (some hard facts now, youll be >bored of the generalisations). I booked the B&B from the office phone. >So if they had the office bugged, or the phone system bugged, they could >have heard the call. If it was as late as 1992 then there was already a system available to feed digital video out of a domestic TV via the mains. Each raster of video was preceded by a sixteen bit address which identified the television set. All that was needed was a decoder box plugged into the mains somewhere between your room and the grid transformer. The signal was decoded and then fed down to the phone line. They probably even had a PC which enabled them to see the picture as well. By 1992 the technology had moved on from slowscan to near real time video with the advent of devices from Brooktree and Harris etc. >the newsreader reacted. Breathed deeply, as if in psychological relief. Maybe, or perhaps as if in:- sci.psychology.announce sci.psychology.consciousness sci.psychology.journals.psyche sci.psychology.journals.psycoloquy sci.psychology.misc sci.psychology.personality sci.psychology.psychotherapy sci.psychology.research sci.psychology.theory >I can't describe to you what goes through your mind when you know >someone on TV is "seeing" you the viewer. Youre doing OK so far. >Your instinct is to switch the TV off, to change channel, Not much point unless you switch off the TV at the mains >like an ostrich, Looks like Ostrich farming is going to catch on in the UK as you may have seen in some of the other uk newsgroups >The one time I did directly ask someone in the company who knew what was >going on, first he spewed wool about, "well we have to think what is >reality and what is proof anyway", then went into barefaced denial liar >mode. It opens your eyes, if they can't say out loud what they keep >saying in a disguised fashion, they must fear exposure, they must fear >the truth. wool_ barefaced_ denial_ liar_ eyes_ fashion_ fear_ exposure, How is your mother these days Mike? And BTW - How is the thesis coming along? Peter Kruger - ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.gold.net/flames/ flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk 3241 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 2007 02:59:10 GMT From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk Subject: MI5 Persecution: Email Cruelty 11/3/96 (10811) From: D.S.Toube@qmw.ac.uk (David Toube) Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.legal,uk.media,soc.culture.british Subject: Re: Why Censorship Must Not Be Allowed on Uk.* Reply-To: D.S.Toube@qmw.ac.uk Date: Mon Mar 11 11:47:13 1996 A OSHINEYE wrote: :D.S.Toube@qmw.ac.uk (David Toube) wrote: :>I would also be very pleased if Mike Corley would not mailbomb me :>via my university account with messages entitled 'This Is What :>You Get For Censorship', thus closing down the entire college :>email system. :> :>Although it does not personally inconvenience me, it is rather :>dull for the college. :When did this happen? BTW you can always use Pegasus Mail to send all :email from Corley's address back to him and see how he likes it. :--Ade : This weekend. The result, Mike Corley will be gratified to hear, was that all users of the college system were prevented from using email. I suspect that there is no stopping Mike Corley. If mail is automatically returned to him, he will return it back to you tenfold. If he is thrown off his account, as he surely will be, he will find another one. I do not care whether Mike Corley has an email account or not. It is a matter of supreme indifference to me whether his fanciful account of persecution is aired or not. If he thinks that he has been persecuted by M15 and Chris Tarrant, then that is a matter for him. But there is a world of difference between repeatedly spamming usenet - which is unacceptable - and setting up a Web Site containing his post, which is entirely acceptable. Then it will be possible to choose whether or not to partake of his fantasy. However although I would not like to see the censorship of posts because they demonstrate evidence of mental illness, I suspect that Mike Corley will inevitably be censored by his ISP following a number of complaints of usenet abuse and mailbombing. - ---- David Toube Lecturer in Law QMW, University of London WWW: http://www.qmw.ac.uk/~ugtl027/index.html David Boothroyd's British Elections Home Page WWW: http://www.qmw.ac.uk/~laws/election/home.html 10811 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 2007 02:48:43 GMT From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk Subject: MI5 Persecution: Jeff Rooker MP 5/3/96 (9297) From: rael@midnight.org (Rael A. Fenchurch) Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british Subject: Re: Persecution in the U.K. Date: Tue Mar 5 04:37:52 1996 Mike, >"go away" replies, and one from a Labour MP saying he was aware of my situation >but wouldn't help me because he regarded me as the "bad guy". Gee thanks, they >do this and then offload the shame they should feel onto you by telling you "oh >but it's your fault". It's a mad world. Do you happen to have a copy of this MPs letter? After all, a scanned copy of it would lend great weight to your case here. At the moment, you've offered us nothing in the way of evidence, which is one of the main reasons we all think you've truly gone fishing. So? Rael... - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Rael A. Fenchurch (rael@midnight.org, http://www.midnight.org/rael/) --- - --- "I don't think compassion's the language of our time" --- - --- "Doubt or Die" --- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================== From: Andy Howard Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british Subject: Re: Persecution in the U.K. Reply-To: andy@kiss100.demon.co.uk Date: Tue Mar 5 06:06:15 1996 In article: bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wr I got a few > "go away" replies, and one from a Labour MP saying he was aware of my situatio > but wouldn't help me because he regarded me as the "bad guy". Which Labour MP Mike? > - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Andy Howard EMail andy@kiss100.demon.co.uk | | My opinions, not my employer's (Jolly nice people though they are). | | If my employers shared my opinions... Well, frankly I'd be amazed | - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ==================================================================== Subject: Re: Persecution in the U.K. Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.br$ Followup-To: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.b$ References: <4h45nq$87o_002@leeds.ac.uk> <4h6gkb$ivc$ Organization: Toronto Free-Net Distribution: Mike Corley (bu765@torfree.net) wrote: : >Do you happen to have a copy of this MPs letter? After all, a scanned : >copy of it would lend great weight to your case here. At the moment, : >you've offered us nothing in the way of evidence, which is one of the : >main reasons we all think you've truly gone fishing. So? : The letter was by email, not on paper. (In addition to snail-mailing, I : emailed all the relevant addresses I could find.) I'll see if I can find : it, I keep a record of most of this correspondence so I may still have it. I'm afraid I don't have a copy of the correspondence. In future I will keep useful letters, so with luck there may be a "next time". The MP was Jeff Rooker, Labour MP. Having looked again at the Labour web page I find he doesn't have an address listed, but I have a record of his address as having been jeff.rooker@geo2.poptel.org.uk. I don't know where I got the address from. I'm so disorganised! ==================================================================== Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british From: J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk (John J Smith) Subject: Re: Persecution in the U.K. X-Nntp-Posting-Host: death-on-the-rock.ftel.co.uk Message-ID: Sender: smid@death-on-the-rock.ftel.co.uk (RFC931) Organization: Fujitsu Telecommunications Europe Ltd References: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:12:56 GMT Lines: 54 In article , Mike Corley wrote: >Mike Corley (bu765@torfree.net) wrote: >: >Do you happen to have a copy of this MPs letter? After all, a scanned >: >copy of it would lend great weight to your case here. At the moment, >: >you've offered us nothing in the way of evidence, which is one of the >: >main reasons we all think you've truly gone fishing. So? > >: The letter was by email, not on paper. (In addition to snail-mailing, I >: emailed all the relevant addresses I could find.) I'll see if I can find >: it, I keep a record of most of this correspondence so I may still have it. > >I'm afraid I don't have a copy of the correspondence. In future I will keep >useful letters, so with luck there may be a "next time". Don't believe you. Because that might be proof, and we just *cant* have that. >The MP was Jeff Rooker, Labour MP. Having looked again at the Labour web page I >find he doesn't have an address listed, but I have a record of his address as >having been jeff.rooker@geo2.poptel.org.uk. I don't know where I got the >address from. I'm so disorganised! I did Email this MP yesterday. This is what I wrote: Smid>I am sorry to bother you, but there is a person with a known Smid>personality disorder on the internet usenet, claiming that you Smid>as an MP have backed up his claims that he is being persecuted Smid>by MI5. Smid>His name is Mike Corely, and posts from canada (email address Smid>available if you require). Smid> Smid>He claims that you have told him that his claims that the Smid>"television is watching him", are justified, yet cannot find the Smid>email in which he did so.. Smid>I'd be interested in what you have said to him, because we have Smid>had a long term battle to convince him that he really is schizophrenic Smid>and that Chris Tarrent, MI5 and Martin Lewis from News On Ten are Smid>persecuting him... If you do have the original Email, then that'd Smid>be nice... Smid>If you nothing of this subject, it would not suprise me, however. His reply, surpise, suprise was: MP>No idea what you are on about. I am getting really sick of some of MP>the junk on E mail. I just dump it so he may have contacted MP>but as to an answer I 've better things to do. Your move, Mike. Smid 9297 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 2007 02:26:27 GMT From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk Subject: MI5 Persecution: Dihydrocodeine 26/11/95 (6269) From: michaelm@easynet.co.uk (michaelm@easynet.co.uk) Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.media,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.radio.uk Subject: Re: Britain's Shame (repost) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 09:19:13 GMT Organization: ------------ Lines: 89 Message-ID: <817374781.20251@michaelm.easynet.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: michaelm.easynet.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: michaelm.easynet.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corblymee) wrote: | In June 1990 a horrifying campaign of harassment was initiated in London by | what are believed to be elements of the security services. The harassment has | continued for over five years, starting from the broadcast and print media, | and encompassing abuse through set-up situations and by people in public | places. It has been brought to the attention of the police and they are aware | what is happening, but are not taking any action to prevent it. corley, you puzzle me! i've narrowed your possible motives down to one or more of the following: 1) you work on behalf of the british government with a hidden agenda of furthering the largely right wing (most to hide) censorship brigade's cause, "a drug-crazed psycho posting dangerous nonsense - how very very sad - but in the public interest,we must act." draft internet (censorship) bills rolling off hm govt's banders at this very moment, I don't doubt it! 2) you work for the daily mail which has started to feel the "internet pinch" as it suddenly clicks in the chronically adled minds of yet more and more of their readers - that shudder-inducing realisation that the entire editorial staff at the mail are scaremongering, imbecilic, blood-leeching , totalitarian twats - can any else sense a coordinated campaign on its way ??- "Mail urges (their) government to act - internet safety endangered by uncontrolled surfing lunatics - boys hands blown off by internet maniacs - net porn responsible for 392323rd rape " .net porn responsible for 392324th rape " .net porn responsible for 392325th rape " .net porn responsible for 392326th rape " .net porn responsible for 392327th rape " net porn responsible for 392328th rape " .net porn responsible for 392329th rape " .net porn responsible for 392330th rape " .net porn responsible for 392331st rape " .net porn responsible for 392332nd rape " net porn responsible for 392333rd rape " .net porn responsible for 392334th rape " .net porn responsible for 392335th rape " .net porn responsible for 392336th rape " .net porn responsible for 392337th rape " net porn responsible for 392338th rape " etcetera, straight from the old nag's mouth.. lee-potter (and english), take particular note.. (how ever you two common ********* managed to avoid encarceration for what was, quite evidently,wilful contempt of court in the regina v taylforth & knights case, is frankly beyond me.. those dreaded and now all too familiar words "endemic corruption" were muttered by at least one Q.C. >3) you (at least) believe there's (some) substance to your claim(s) and you >have a genuine axe to grind. If so, bloody well go for it, but scrape the >heavy layer of steaming dung off the top (that's assuming you're even >capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.) 4) you (as an email address) are serving as some bizarre "educational" programme orchestrated by the psychiatric industry - ever keen to justify enforced electrical lobotomies, electroshock and dwugs .All poised for the echo? - "corley frigging well needs lobotomising" 5) you're just clinically insane with absolutely no comprehension or insight into the consequences you will possibly face as a result of repeatedly posting what, certainly on the face of it, looks like complete and utter bullshit. 6) you're some weirdo prankster(s) - probably a group of student psychiatrists having a cheap crack whilst high as kites on pilfered dihydrocodeine. 7) You are infact working for the ss yourself, gauging public awareness of the extent and methods of bugging - infinity transmitters, microwave surveillance devices, satellite tracking equipment, 'chipping' of black crims, say no more. 8) You're fuelling the central usenet administration committee, who, it is believed, are keen to see the introduction of a wide-reaching framework of self-created powers relating to posting cancellation. (see the 'son of RFC1036') my bet's on (5) - but just fuck off corley- irritate the lard-arsed canucks instead. The cia's financing of "professor" cameron's brain-washing experiments in montreal.. would be a good starting point ... or perhaps "professor" watts and his widely admired masterful double eye-jabbing trick - - a couple of wallops with an icepick. such a waste of perfectly edible four year old hispanics !!!!.. Perhaps the old marylebone rd posse could fill us in with a few more facts on this one...?? You are all on the .net now ????? A very warm welcome :-) ... christmas rapidly approaching.. >business booming?? Do we all get a look in at flotation ??!! ====================================================== From: Gulliver Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.media,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.radio.uk Subject: Re: Britain's Shame (repost) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:25:32 +0000 Organization: University of Hertfordshire Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <817343873snz@objmedia.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.herts.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <817343873snz@objmedia.demon.co.uk> Actually, upon thinking about Mike's story it reminds me of someone I heard about who suffered from a persecution copmlex. He was an immigrant from some Eastern Bloc country who believed that 30 years after he emigrated the KGB were still after him. He would blame them if he had difficulty unlocking his car for instance (he reckoned they were putting something into the locks!). Something is very wrong, probably in Mike's head but what the hell, loonies make life more fun! - -- Angus Gulliver ======================================================= Subject: Castrate the depraved MI5 buggers now Newsgroups: uk.misc Organization: Toronto Free-Net >Something is very wrong, probably in Mike's head but what the hell, >loonies make life more fun! Something is very wrong when the security services abandon their usual target of politicians and the well-known, to pursue the hitherto unknown nonentities such as myself. >corley, you puzzle me! Why? Because of my pathological truthfulness? >3) you (at least) believe there's (some) substance to your claim(s) and you >have a genuine axe to grind. If so, bloody well go for it, but scrape the >heavy layer of steaming dung off the top (that's assuming you're even >capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.) Bloody well go for it I will. I think the "standard spiel" is quite studded with facts actually. There's plenty of "meat" there if the appropriate people can be motivated to get their act together and pursue the case. >my bet's on (5) - but just fuck off corley- irritate the lard-arsed canucks >instead. The cia's financing of "professor" cameron's brain-washing the lard-arsed canucks (?) are irritating me, but you don't want to hear about that >business booming?? Do we all get a look in at flotation ??!! 6269 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 2007 02:15:00 GMT From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk Subject: MI5 Persecution: A new Kafka? 3/10/95 (4755) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.media,uk.politics From: jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson) Subject: Re: What it's like to be watched by the security services Message-ID: <1995Oct13.225312.6514@ttinews.tti.com> Sender: usenet@ttinews.tti.com (Usenet Admin) Nntp-Posting-Host: soldev Organization: Citicorp-TTI at Santa Monica (CA) by the Sea References: <813188298snz129.os2.7@blackcat.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 22:53:12 GMT Lines: 34 In article bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) writes: > >Strangers in the street have recognized me on sight many times, and shown >awareness of the current thread of abuse. To give you one example, in 1992 >I was seriously ill, and a manager at work somewhat humouroursly said that >"it wasn't fair" that people were bullying me. A few days later, I >attended for the first time a clinic in London as an outpatient, and on my >way out was accosted by someone who asked if "they had paid my fare", with >emphasis on the word "fare". He repeated the word several times in this >different context; that they should have paid my "fare", each time >emphasising the word. > >For two and a half years from the time their harassment started until >November 1992 I refused to see a psychiatrist, because I reasoned that I >was not ill of my own action or fault, but through the stress caused by >harassment, and that a lessening of the illness would have to be >consequent to a removal of its immediate cause, in other words a cessation >of harassment. I also reasoned that since they were taunting me with jokes >about mental illness, if I were to seek treatment then the abusers would >think that they had "won" and been proved "right". I have so far not contributed to this tread, it has been unpleasant in my opinion. However, I was struck by the resemblance of the above passages to the writing of Franz Kafka. Viz. while from an objective viewpoint it seems to refer to a abnormal world, in a strange way it does resonate strongly at other levels. Mr. Corley, have you tried to write for publication? I honestly think it might lead somewhere positive. Dick Jackson (serious for a change and expecting to get beaten up) 4755 ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V11 #565 *********************************************