From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V5 #44 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, February 10 2001 Volume 05 : Number 044 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The exta FruCon4 shirts are now on sale [brent_miller@my-deja.com] Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game [Katherine Maheux ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 05:10:49 GMT From: brent_miller@my-deja.com Subject: The exta FruCon4 shirts are now on sale Hello all, As promised, on Friday February 9th, we are selling the extra FruCon4 shirts we had printed. Just a note, each year, we have one or two extra shirts printed in each size and style, just in case the printer makes a mistake. The good news is, the printing went flawless. That means all the extra shirts are now on sale. Here's what's left: Small T-shirt.........1 Left Medium T-shirt....1 Left Large T-shirt........Sold Out XL T-shirt...............3 Left 2XL T-shirt............2 Left 3XL T-shirt............Sold Out 4XL T-shirt...........1 Left .... Small Hood.........Not manufactured in Small Medium Hood.....1 Left Large Hood.........1 Left XL Hood...............2 Left 2X Hood...............1 Left 3X Hood..............Not manufactured in 3X 4X Hood..............Not manufactured in 4X Just e-mail us with your request, then we will direct you to our PayPal site set up specially for the extra shirts. This way, we won't accidently over-sell the remaining shirts. If you order by Sunday night, you should still get your shirt by FruCon. Thanks for all the kind e-mail and compliments on the shirts, it means so much. See you at FruCon4, Brent and Mar Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:09:47 GMT From: Katherine Maheux Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game "A.J. LoCicero" wrote: > > Here's a question for all the Canadians: Which English lyrics do you > recognize as the "real" ones? The ones Robert Stanly Weir wrote in > 1927: > > O Canada! > Our home and native land > True patriot love in all thy sons command. > With glowing hearts we see thee rise > The True North strong and free! > And stand on guard, O Canada > We stand on guard for thee. > O Canada, glorious and free, > We stand on guard, we stand on guard for thee. > O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! > > Or the official ones proclaimed by parliament in 1980: > > O Canada! > Our home and native land! > True patriot love in all thy sons command. > With glowing hearts we see thee rise, > The True North strong and free! > From far and wide, > O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. > God keep our land glorious and free! > O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. > O Canada, we stand on guard for the > > Personally I like the original ones better because that is what I > remember from childhood, but also I don't like the newer lyric's god > reference as it seems less inclusive (although that is the American in > me talking) Actually, the bit I hear most and that I think of as the official anthem is the second one, with the line that goes "God Keep Our Land". However, where I come from, you sing it in both official languages. O Canada, Our home and native land True patriot love In all thy sons command Car ton bras sait porter l'ipie Il sait porter la foi Ton histoire est une ipopie Des plus brilliants exploits God keep our land Glorious and free O Canada, we stand on guard for thee O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! Yep. That's how we always sang it. Kath - -- One day, the world stood still And we all sang one song Words came without any thought And we all sang so strongly The shy, they shouted too The deaf, all the chords they knew And the blind, they led me through The day the world stood still, The day we all stood still. -- Andy Stochansky ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:07:08 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game Melanie wrote: > Mike Yoshioka wrote A.J. LoCicero wrote: > > >Personally I like the original ones better because that is what I > >remember from childhood, but also I don't like the newer lyric's god > >reference as it seems less inclusive (although that is the American in me talking) > > And "True patriot love in all thy SONS command" is inclusive? Not of some of us. > (Couldn't resist. :P > It's the first thing I've been able to bring to this discussion.) Well, not that this really solves anything, but I believe that "thy son" is supposed to refer to Jesus (i.e. God's son). Of course, that also fails the inclusiveness test for all non-Christians. So we're back to the God thing again. I think there have been several attempt to rewrite the English lyrics for both O Canada and that forgotten anthem, The Maple Leaf Forever, but none have caught on. Ah, well. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:01:51 -0500 From: Melanie Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game >> Josh Drury >>Well, not that this really solves anything, but I believe that "thy son" is supposed to refer to Jesus (i.e. God's son). << Wow. Now I'm curious. Can any Canadian enlighten me? Do the lyrics actually read "in all thy son's command" rather than "in all thy sons command"? Very, very big difference. Even though I am a Christian, I'd be very concerned if that were the case. I mean, I'd be concerned if I were a non-Christian Canadian. melanie (a non-Canadian Christian) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:00:55 GMT From: Carol Bennett Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game Melanie wrote: > > >> Josh Drury > > >>Well, not that this really solves anything, but I believe that "thy son" > is supposed to refer to Jesus (i.e. God's son). << > > Wow. Now I'm curious. Can any Canadian enlighten me? Do the > lyrics actually read "in all thy son's command" rather than "in all thy > sons command"? Very, very big difference. Even though I am a > Christian, I'd be very concerned if that were the case. I mean, I'd > be concerned if I were a non-Christian Canadian. > > melanie (a non-Canadian Christian) It's "in all thy sons command" according to the federal government's National Anthem of Canada page . "Sons" appears in the third verse of the original as well ("stalwart sons and gentle maidens"). Lots of God - especially that fourth verse, but it fit with the times - no Son. Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:35:46 GMT From: Marie-Claude Subject: 'Oh What a Feeling' Fruvous is among the artists featured on the new 'Oh What a Feeling' box set- an homage to outstanding Canadian music - along with the Tragically Hip, Barenaked Ladies, Sloan, and a bunch of great names I forget. I say, SSMA. [1] - -- Marie-Claude Danis http://verticalcrawl.com [1] swan song, my ASS. [2] [2] IMHO. "Two hundred highly intelligent law school graduates working full-time driving me crazy. Why the hell is everyone so surprised that it's working?? But no. It's 'Angel, why are you so cranky?', 'Angel, you should lighten up. You should smile. You should wear a nice plaid'!" ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V5 #44 *******************************************