From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V5 #43 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, February 9 2001 Volume 05 : Number 043 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jian @ Blue Bird [Marie-Claude ] Re: progressive rock (was: Re: Rumors of the End (long)) [Todd Evans ] Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game [mike96@bluecrow.com (Mike Yoshiok] Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game [Melanie Subject: Jian @ Blue Bird A review of a Blue Bird North singer-songwriter evening at the Rivoli -- also Jian's very first solo appearance. It was a great show. This review gives it justice. (Tiny picture, too.) http://www.studentbody.ca/html/play/listenhear/listenhear4.html (Thanks Kath for digging this up.) - -- Marie-Claude Danis http://verticalcrawl.com o/~ I haven't moved a muscle and I haven't flinched an inch in almost two CDs and you say 'Pff, that's nothing, I've been like that since the seventies.' o/~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 05:13:03 GMT From: Todd Evans Subject: Re: progressive rock (was: Re: Rumors of the End (long)) Tim the DeadHead wrote: > > How about Focus, or the Mahavishnu Orchestra? > (or am I dating myself?) Yes, Tim - You're dating yourself. But that's OK. Date away. : ) (Actually, what I meant by "Go ahead - take your best shot" was that usually in places like this I get made fun of for liking progressive rock, and I figured that at least one person would do just that. Thank you, everyone, for being so kind!) Todd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 05:36:24 GMT From: drea25@my-deja.com Subject: RE: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game > The main reason must have been that it was played in the US, hence the US > NA. To play the Canadian NA, they would have had to play the NAs from all > the other countries represented. *Personally, that could have been > interesting, but not for the general TV audience* Not necessarily.. Besides, all the NHL players are used to hearing both anthems where teams from both countries are involved. Granted there was no way to do all the countries' anthems - but still, why have a Cdn group there to perform a song and then not have them do the anthem as well? Drea (understanding the point, but still angry.. and wonders if Americans would feel the same way if O Canada had been the only anthem played at the All Star Game in Toronto last year) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 05:44:07 GMT From: drea25@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game > ceremony of the game quite a bit longer than necessary. The game last > year was in Toronto (If I recall correctly), does anyone remember if > they just played the Canadian Anthem, or did they play the US as well? Man, my venting has turned into a bit of a discussion *g* Unless my memory fails me completely, they did indeed play both anthems last year, though don't ask me to remember who did the US one :) Maybe the anthems should be eliminated altogether at the All Star Game for as long as the North America vs World format stays the format. It would save time, and spare the discussion of what ones should be played *g* Drea Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 06:25:13 GMT From: slimeagan@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game In article <95tbn7$v3g$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, drea25@my-deja.com wrote: > > > ceremony of the game quite a bit longer than necessary. The game last > > year was in Toronto (If I recall correctly), does anyone remember if > > they just played the Canadian Anthem, or did they play the US as well? > > Man, my venting has turned into a bit of a discussion *g* Unless my > memory fails me completely, they did indeed play both anthems last year, > though don't ask me to remember who did the US one :) > I guess that does make sense though, Toronto is closer to the boarder than Colorado is so I should have figured that they would play both. I guess my brain have been completely bronken :) Jason Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:48:18 -0400 From: "Melissa Hogan" Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game It's not NHL hockey but in my hometown (Saint John) we play the Canadian national anthem for all Flames (AHL) home games and also the American national anthem if they're playing against an American team. I think the Canadian national anthem should've been played before the All-Star game not because some of the players are Canadian but because some of the players were there representing Canadian teams. This would not mean that you would have to play the Russian NA or the Czech NA or any other because there are no NHL teams from there. All the NHL teams reside in either an American city or a Canadian one so it would only make sense to play both anthems. Make any sense? Cheers, Melissa :o) ______________ Don't miss your favourite band again! East Coast Tourdates http://ectourdates.tripod.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:48:18 -0400 From: "Melissa Hogan" Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game It's not NHL hockey but in my hometown (Saint John) we play the Canadian national anthem for all Flames (AHL) home games and also the American national anthem if they're playing against an American team. I think the Canadian national anthem should've been played before the All-Star game not because some of the players are Canadian but because some of the players were there representing Canadian teams. This would not mean that you would have to play the Russian NA or the Czech NA or any other because there are no NHL teams from there. All the NHL teams reside in either an American city or a Canadian one so it would only make sense to play both anthems. Make any sense? Cheers, Melissa :o) ______________ Don't miss your favourite band again! East Coast Tourdates http://ectourdates.tripod.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:12:16 -0000 From: navratil@dslnorthwest.net (Joe Navratil) Subject: Re: progressive rock (was: Re: Rumors of the End (long)) On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 02:01:20 GMT, Tim the DeadHead wrote: > >How about Focus, or the Mahavishnu Orchestra? >(or am I dating myself?) > Thanks, Tim. Now I'm going to have yodeling rock stuck in my head all day. -Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:27:25 GMT From: mike96@bluecrow.com (Mike Yoshioka) Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 13:02:48 -0500, Lori Martin wrote: >In Philly and other "non-border" US towns they seem to play both the Canadian >and American anthems when a team from a Canadian city is present, and only the >American anthem at other times. The anthems represent the cities the teams >call home, not the home countries of the players on those teams. I've been to hockey games in San Jose, Anaheim, LA, Vancouver and Calgary for the NHL. If the visiting team is from the other country, they play that anthem first, followed by the home country's anthem. The same was done for minor league games that I've gone to. However, if both teams are from the same country, they don't play the other anthem. >I don't know whether there is any cross-border precedent here. If the >All-Star Game were played in Toronto or Montreal, would the US anthem be >played? I went to the all star game in Vancouver back in 1998. Bryan Adams sang the Canadian national anthem and screwed up some of the words.* I'm pretty sure I remember that no american anthem was played. Cuz I thought that was weird at the time. When I was racing in the states, anywhere I went, they would play the Canadian national anthem before the races. I remember a bunch of us scrambling to try to find a copy of the anthem on cd or tape for them to play over the speakers. And numerous times having to just sing it. Mike *At least he didn't sing it to the tune of "Oh Christmas Tree" Yes that has happened. Before a CFL game that took place in Las Vegas (during the wonderful expansion years of the CFL) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:27:41 GMT From: CintiBud Subject: Re: progressive rock (was: Re: Rumors of the End (long)) In article <3a81fcf2.94259278@news>, Dead from the Neck Up @ Home.com (Tim the DeadHead) wrote: > > How about Focus, or the Mahavishnu Orchestra? > (or am I dating myself?) > > -Tim the DeadHead Mahavishnu Orchestra! I used to listen to some pretty wild stuff. Yes, I guess I'm old too! CintiBud Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:32:19 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game Mike Yoshioka wrote: > > *At least he didn't sing it to the tune of "Oh Christmas Tree" Yes > that has happened. Before a CFL game that took place in Las Vegas > (during the wonderful expansion years of the CFL) Oh My God? How? It doesn't' even fit! BTW, I was just looking up the history of Oh Canada and I was really surprised to find that it didn't become the official national anthem of Canada until 1980, which is pretty weird since they were playing it when Channel 9 went off the air for the night back when I was a small child. Here's a question for all the Canadians: Which English lyrics do you recognize as the "real" ones? The ones Robert Stanly Weir wrote in 1927: O Canada! Our home and native land True patriot love in all thy sons command. With glowing hearts we see thee rise The True North strong and free! And stand on guard, O Canada We stand on guard for thee. O Canada, glorious and free, We stand on guard, we stand on guard for thee. O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! Or the official ones proclaimed by parliament in 1980: O Canada! Our home and native land! True patriot love in all thy sons command. With glowing hearts we see thee rise, The True North strong and free! From far and wide, O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. God keep our land glorious and free! O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. O Canada, we stand on guard for the Personally I like the original ones better because that is what I remember from childhood, but also I don't like the newer lyric's god reference as it seems less inclusive (although that is the American in me talking) A.J. - -- "I know there is a lot of ambition in Washington, obviously. But I hope the ambitious realize that they are more likely to succeed with success as opposed to failure." - --G.W. Bush, Interview with the Associated Press, Jan. 18, 2001 Email:aj@locicero.org ICQ: 13117113 AIM: locicero For some of the best Long Distance and Calling Card rates around visit http://www.ld.net/?sensible. Cheap rates and *I* get a commission! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:17:43 GMT From: mike96@bluecrow.com (Mike Yoshioka) Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:32:19 GMT, "A.J. LoCicero" wrote: > >Oh My God? How? It doesn't' even fit! *to the tune of Oh Christmas Tree* Oh Canada, Oh Canada, Our home and native laaaaand, and it just got worse and worse. > >BTW, > >I was just looking up the history of Oh Canada and I was really >surprised to find that it didn't become the official national anthem of >Canada until 1980, which is pretty weird since they were playing it when >Channel 9 went off the air for the night back when I was a small child. > >Here's a question for all the Canadians: Which English lyrics do you >recognize as the "real" ones? The ones Robert Stanly Weir wrote in >1927: The ones that I was taught in school is the second one. However, I think the line about "god" actually has been changed now. The anthem went under revision around mid 90's I believe. > >O Canada! >Our home and native land >True patriot love in all thy sons command. >With glowing hearts we see thee rise >The True North strong and free! >And stand on guard, O Canada >We stand on guard for thee. >O Canada, glorious and free, >We stand on guard, we stand on guard for thee. >O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! > >Or the official ones proclaimed by parliament in 1980: > >O Canada! >Our home and native land! >True patriot love in all thy sons command. >With glowing hearts we see thee rise, >The True North strong and free! >From far and wide, >O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. >God keep our land glorious and free! >O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. >O Canada, we stand on guard for the > >Personally I like the original ones better because that is what I >remember from childhood, but also I don't like the newer lyric's god >reference as it seems less inclusive (although that is the American in >me talking) I've actually never heard the original lyrics sung. I've seen them written before. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:13:12 -0500 From: Melanie Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game Mike Yoshioka wrote A.J. LoCicero wrote: >Personally I like the original ones better because that is what I >remember from childhood, but also I don't like the newer lyric's god >reference as it seems less inclusive (although that is the American in me talking) And "True patriot love in all thy SONS command" is inclusive? Not of some of us. (Couldn't resist. :P It's the first thing I've been able to bring to this discussion.) melanie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 21:37:50 GMT From: arsenelupin3@my-deja.com Subject: MFSW Finals - Vote, dangit! :D Just a reminder that the final round of the mfsw ends at the end of the 13th of this month! In case the message didn't propagate properly, here's a repost of the ballot. I have only received 10 votes as of now. - ------ This is it. The last round, as determined by a mere 20 voters. This time, vote! Tell other fruheads to vote! Tell your mom, your doctor, and your priest to vote! Please select a favorite song in any manner (provided it's obvious that i know which one you want) The Gulf War Song The Drinking Song Additionally, you are alotted eleven points to divide up in whole numbers between each song. You may give one song 11 and the other none, or you may give one song six and the other five, or seven and four. Whatever. Just do it in whole number increments adding to eleven: The Gulf War Song: The Drinking song: Thanks for all the time you've spent voting for this crazy thing. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:48:46 GMT From: drea25@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game When I started school, we used the older lyrics, and changed to the "official" ones after they became official. I also remember there being a bit of confusion at first, but eventually we all got used to singing the "new" ones :) Drea Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------ Date: 08 Feb 2001 17:36:17 GMT From: robinkat22@aol.com (Robin Engle) Subject: Re: frucon4 shirts We got our shirts yesterday, too (hooded). They do look really good and I love that we could get sweatshirts. I think I was looking forward to the packaging almost as much as the shirt! Oh, by the way (since we've already had to wash Kelsey's shirt!), the directions for washing which were enclosed worked fine (we opted for Jian's instruction bubble). I even ran it through the dryer & there was very little shrinkage. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:04:30 -0700 From: Tom Salyers Subject: Re: Off Topic: GBS on the Allstar game In article <95tbn7$v3g$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, drea25@my-deja.com says... > Drea (understanding the point, but still angry.. and wonders if > Americans would feel the same way if O Canada had been the only anthem > played at the All Star Game in Toronto last year) I can't speak for all 300 million or so of us, but I personally wouldn't really give a rat's ass. Your country, your anthem...knock yourself out and we'll sing ours next time. - -- | "I could really use to lose my Catholic conscience Tom Salyers | Cuz I'm getting sick of feeling guilty all the time Denver, CO | I won't abuse it--yeah, I've got the best intentions | For a little bit of anarchy but not the hurting kind." ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V5 #43 *******************************************