From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #443 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, November 6 2000 Volume 04 : Number 443 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [y08x5 ] Re: Pisco bumper sticker ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [James Kalyn ] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [bsnow ] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [bnljane1@aol.combnl (Resident Movie Critic)] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [lawrence solomon ] Re: what is your favorite Moxy Fruvous song? [Paul Skudlarek ] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [Tim Cain ] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [Robin Kent ] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [njskedder@aol.com (NJSkedder)] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [pookytoby@aol.com (Pooky Toby)] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [CintiBud ] Re: this best/worst opener thing... [rachel yudell ] Re: this best/worst opener thing... [rachel yudell ] Re: OT sorta: Opening acts [njskedder@aol.com (NJSkedder)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 02:12:00 -0400 From: y08x5 Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts Since I've only seen Fruvous once (and the comedian they had was rather unremarkable) most of these are for Great Big Sea: Best opening acts: Sarah Harmer (for GBS) Guster (for GBS) Melanie Doane (for GBS) The Push Stars (for GBS) Honourable mentions: The Ennis Sisters, Bran Van 3000, Bass is Base Worst opening acts: The Sadies (for Blue Rodeo) - what I like to call "spacey-60s-hillbilly-hoedown" music Monkey Wrench (for BNL back in 1993) - it was just bad Cheers, Melissa :o) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 06:07:06 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Pisco bumper sticker Donna Hunt wrote: > I do have a few hanging around left over from Joe's initial order. So if folks > need them, email me and we'll take care of it. > > But, numbers are limited, so order now! Ebay Ebay Ebay!!!!! Come on! And then when they've all sold for 45 bucks each, you can start selling PICTURES of them! :) A.J. - -- "If affirmative action means what I just described, what I'm for, then I'm for it.."--G.W.Bush St. Louis, Mo., October 18, 2000 Email:aj@locicero.org ICQ: 13117113 AIM: locicero For some of the best Long Distance and Calling Card rates around visit http://www.ld.net/?sensible. Cheap rates and *I* get a commission! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 06:03:14 GMT From: James Kalyn Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts On 04 Nov 2000 13:31:38 GMT, bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote: >So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST openers you >have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT as >opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ... BEST (Fru): Tory Cassis Had never heard of him, but he was great. Of course, you all know that already. BEST (non-Fru): The Darkest Of The Hillside Thickets (opening for Huevos Rancheros) I do concert reviews (cheap plug - read'em or sign up for my mailing list at http://www.geocities.com/jkalyn/reviews.html) and this is what I said about The Thickets: "There were five guys in this band. Four of them were wearing matching red jumpsuits with military bars on the sleeves and stenciled numbers on their legs. One of them didn't seem to have any purpose except to jump up and down in time to the music, and move his arms in time to the drums. The lead singer was wearing a pink glittery spacesuit. He had a lasergun strapped to his waist, and he'd play it like an instrument. He sang a song where the only words seemed to be "He made love to the fishies" while the other guy took a camera and ran around the stage taking pictures of the band and the crowd. Then they all drank out of some water pitchers, spaceman guy played with the gun some more, and then they sang a mathematical formula. Then they sang a song in German before discussing Police reunion concerts (or a lack thereof). This was easily the best thing I had ever seen." They genuinely were awesome. Head to www.holycow.com/thickets for more info (and free MP3s)! WORST: Xylon (opening for Kim Stockwood) Xylon was apparently a founding member of Streetnix (if there are any a-capella fans out there), but I didn't know this at the time, I just knew he was awful. He was so bad that people at the bar were asking the servers if they could get him off the stage early. JK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 06:40:13 -0500 From: bsnow Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts > Best--Guster for BNL, also enjoyed Sarah Harmer , and Todd Weidner, who opened > for Früvous in Dayton Worst--*those* guys in Columbus last year ( It was our first Früvous concert, and were we afraid all the openers were going to be like that!) Bunny ------------------------------ Date: 05 Nov 2000 12:28:48 GMT From: bnljane1@aol.combnl (Resident Movie Critic) Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts << Guster, for Barenaked Ladies[1] (I just wish the audience had been more appreciative) >> Where did you see them? I saw the combo 4 times at the beginning of the tour in September, and each night Guster got a standing ovation!! Cheryl (refraining from commenting about the implications later in the post that BNL has sold out...... :-) Cheryl Barenaked in Mass "I'm still learning things I ought to know by now"--Vertical Horizon http://yours.at/thecrowdedcourt Remove "bnl" to email ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 11:02:01 -0500 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts Resident Movie Critic wrote: > > << Guster, for Barenaked Ladies[1] (I just wish the audience had been more > appreciative) >> > > Where did you see them? I saw the combo 4 times at the beginning of the tour > in September, and each night Guster got a standing ovation!! hrm. I saw them at the Dean Smith Center in Chapel Hill, NC last Friday... a few people were paying attention, but people were mostly just talking through them, and a lot of people hadn't even shown up yet. the place was very empty when they took the stage. and after 8 songs they left the stage to very scattered applause. in fact, the people in front of me left their seats before Guster came out, and I overheard one of them say "I might come back if they play that 'Fa Fa' song." Well, they did come back, unfortunately, during Guster's first song (What You Wish For) and wouldn't shut up the whole time, especially saying things like "I wonder if they've played that 'Fa Fa' song yet." (what, did they leave the venue and not hear that the band hadn't even finished playing its opening song yet?!) these were the same people who wouldn't sit down during the slow songs in BNL's set when the rest of the audience did, leaving me unable to see, and not wanting to stand up because I'd end up blocking the people behind me... - -- lawrence solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "And I don't know whether I believe in me, but I still believe in my friends." -The Nields ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 16:15:28 GMT From: Paul Skudlarek Subject: Re: what is your favorite Moxy Fruvous song? No true favorite, but lately I've taken a liking to "I Will Hold On" and "Pisco Bandito." And, of course, who could forget the eternal "King of Spain"...? - -- Pauley +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Paul L. Skudlarek | | Student, Department of Information Technology | | Rochester Institute of Technology | | E-mail: Pauley@mail.rit.edu AIM: jamiroquai2483 ICQ: 7410094 | | http://www.rit.edu/~pls5159/ Amateur Radio: KC2FQD | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:50:20 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts In article <3A043192.EB78AAEB@fruhead.com>, zaph@fruhead.com wrote: > > Last night we (husband, daughter and I) went to see They Might Be > > Giants at the 930 Club (I am willing to bet at least one other > > person from this NG may have been there) and we saw ... or maybe I > > should say were subjected to ... what was, IMHO, the all-time worst > > opening act I have ever seen at any kind of legit venue ... they are > > called OkGo (pronounced Okay, Go! which we were wishing they would > > do by the end of the first song). > yeah, I thought they were pretty bad, too (and I get to see them > *again* tonight... fun) but mostly it was just that they were too loud > and had way too much bass, which normally I enjoy, but not when it's > giving me a headache through my earplugs. I think the 930 Club tends to push the levels with the sound sometimes. I saw No Knife open for Sunny Day Real Estate a few months ago, and I swear, I have never heard anything that loud in my life. I came home with the worst headache. And while I actually like No Knife a lot, I was almost wishing that they would spontaneously combust. After reading this, I went to the TMBG show in Towson expecting OkGo to be horrible, but I really, really enjoyed them. They had catchy, upbeat, songs and a lot of enthusiasm. The bassist's crazy dancing could have kept me entertained all night. I thought they had a kind of Soul Coughing/Starling/Ben Folds/Weezer vibe going. Besides, not to many bands can open their set with Toto's "Hold the Line" :) - -anna- http://elements.dreamhost.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:49:30 -0500 From: Tim Cain Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts Hey, I can delurk for this one. >So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST >openers you >have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT as >opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ... ) Best ever: Squeeze opening for Elvis Costello in 1981. Set up a lifelong lover affair Second-best ever: The Thieves opening for Jeff Healy in 1989, when about six people knew who Jeff Healy was. (I think 12 know now) Runners up: CIndy Lee Berryhill for the Smithereens; David Wilcox for Jars of Clay Best Fruvous opener: Susan Werner (unless Candy Butchers and Too Cynical to Cry from Fleadh last year count. I know, I know, Candy Butchers weren't on the same stage. Details.) Worst opener ever: Sammy Hagar for Nazareth in 1978. He was booed off the stage, cursed at the audience as he left. Three people held up lighters. Sammy comes back out and says, "OK, the matches [sic] have it. We're playing another one." That announcement was greeted by a cascade of boos. Funnier than hell. Worst Fruvous opener: I know lots of people love her, but I just don't get Sarah Slean at all Openers I'm most ashamed to admit I enjoyed: Color Me Badd for Paula Abdul; Jackyl for Aerosmith. (Hey, at least this indicates my musical tastes are all over the map.) - --tc timcain@onemain.com; http://www.webmart.net/~tcain1 "More of what you need and less when you don't." -- Genuine submitted advertising copy ------------------------------ Date: 05 Nov 2000 23:23:23 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts Was it Sarah Slean who opened for Fruvous at the 930 Club back in February 1999? Or was it Susan Werner? I also just remembered another great opener who was at the time very obscure, and that was k.d. lang ... can't remember who she opened for but I think it was, once again, NRBQ at the Bottom Line ... she had long hair and was wearing a skirt and it was right before Torch and Twang came out ... she still went by k.d. lang and the Recliners, and did the whole Patsy Cline thing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:54:38 -0500 From: Robin Kent Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts > Openers I'm most ashamed to admit I enjoyed: Color Me Badd for Paula Abdul; > Jackyl for Aerosmith. > > Color Me Badd!! I used to love them. (think this is the first time I've > publicly admitted that) - -Robin ------------------------------ Date: 06 Nov 2000 01:46:09 GMT From: njskedder@aol.com (NJSkedder) Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts I saw Jesse Camp, that idiot from MTV warm up for Alice Cooper in Atlantic City. He was pretty bad. Horrible. I wanted to kick his ass. But I just walked out. ------------------------------ Date: 06 Nov 2000 02:19:36 GMT From: pookytoby@aol.com (Pooky Toby) Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts >> Best--Guster for BNL, also enjoyed Sarah Harmer , and Todd Weidner, who >opened >> for Früvous in Dayton > Worst: Martin Sexton opening for Fruvous at the Harro East in Rochester. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 02:45:44 GMT From: CintiBud Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts Best (Fruvous) - Great Big Sea. (Cinti - 97) What a fantastic surprise, I had no idea who they were! Worst (Fruvous) - "White Lightning". (Cinti - 98) Actually not as bad as some of the other horror stories posted since he knew he was bad and was real good humored about it, so it was actually somewhat entertaining. i.e. so bad it was funny. Best (non-fru) Paul Thorn opening for John Prine (Cinti-00). Had the Prine fans, who had never heard of him and were anxious for their man, singing along, laughing, paying attention to the quiet songs and loudly applauding at the end of each number. Puts out more emotions with his voice and accustic guitar than most bands. I'm now a big fan - check him out at http://www.paulthorn.com/ Worst (non-fru) (Cinti, 00) Went to see Paul Thorn again, this time as a headliner at a small club in town. His opener was "Chuck Wagon", who couldn't sing or play a guitar well. The first two songs were kind of interesting but he ran out of material after that. However he continued to play for almost an hour! After his set he sat at a table with a few friends in the front and proceed to talk with them all through Paul Thorn's set! We were all ready to kick his butt, but he was a very large individual :-0 CintiBud Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:28:30 -0800 (PST) From: rachel yudell Subject: Re: this best/worst opener thing... Ok...can I just echo the sentiment about OK GO opening for TMBG this past week? Saw them Thursday at the Bowery Ballroom...an anniversary of sorts (9 years/10 shows) and the best They could freakin' do was OK GO?!?!?!? Man oh man...NOTHING cmompared to TMBG '86 opening for TMBG '97 (ah memories of Pittsburgh). Serious disapointment as far as the opener went last at this last show...but Fingertips made up for it:) Ok...best openers...erm...in no particular order... 1. Dan Bern for Ani DiFranco 2. Robert Hoyt for Dana Lyons 3. TMBG '86 for TMBG '97 4. Black 47 for whatever the hell band headlined Movin On at PSU in April '93 WORST... 1. The obvious...still pissed about the first 45 minutes of last Thursdays' TMBG show:( 2. The Yoko Ono-esque singer who opened for the Indigo Girls the first time I saw them... Shite...my brain just turned off. I've bee up for more hours than I can count...the caffeine is wearing off and I'm out of soda...must find SODA:( I'll have to cut that list short... Hmmm...me thinks this message doth ramble a bit too much:( All I can say is the opener for TMBG's Philly show later this month doesn't have much to top... I'll deal with this 'favorite song' thing tomorrow... Later skaters:) Rach(el) ...must not sleep...must NOT give in... ===== *********************************************** It's just a jump to the left...and then a step to the right...place your hands on your hips...and pull your knees in tight... then it's a pelvic thrust that really drives you INSANE!!!! Let's do the Time Warp again... *********************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:28:29 -0800 (PST) From: rachel yudell Subject: Re: this best/worst opener thing... Ok...can I just echo the sentiment about OK GO opening for TMBG this past week? Saw them Thursday at the Bowery Ballroom...an anniversary of sorts (9 years/10 shows) and the best They could freakin' do was OK GO?!?!?!? Man oh man...NOTHING cmompared to TMBG '86 opening for TMBG '97 (ah memories of Pittsburgh). Serious disapointment as far as the opener went last at this last show...but Fingertips made up for it:) Ok...best openers...erm...in no particular order... 1. Dan Bern for Ani DiFranco 2. Robert Hoyt for Dana Lyons 3. TMBG '86 for TMBG '97 4. Black 47 for whatever the hell band headlined Movin On at PSU in April '93 WORST... 1. The obvious...still pissed about the first 45 minutes of last Thursdays' TMBG show:( 2. The Yoko Ono-esque singer who opened for the Indigo Girls the first time I saw them... Shite...my brain just turned off. I've bee up for more hours than I can count...the caffeine is wearing off and I'm out of soda...must find SODA:( I'll have to cut that list short... Hmmm...me thinks this message doth ramble a bit too much:( All I can say is the opener for TMBG's Philly show later this month doesn't have much to top... I'll deal with this 'favorite song' thing tomorrow... Later skaters:) Rach(el) ...must not sleep...must NOT give in... ===== *********************************************** It's just a jump to the left...and then a step to the right...place your hands on your hips...and pull your knees in tight... then it's a pelvic thrust that really drives you INSANE!!!! Let's do the Time Warp again... *********************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: 06 Nov 2000 04:29:31 GMT From: njskedder@aol.com (NJSkedder) Subject: Re: OT sorta: Opening acts >Best (non-fru) Paul Thorn opening for John Prine (Cinti-00). Had the >Prine fans, who had never heard of him and were anxious for their man, >singing along, laughing, paying attention to the quiet songs and loudly >applauding at the end of each number. Puts out more emotions with his >voice and accustic guitar than most bands. I'm now a big fan - check >him out at http://www.paulthorn.com/ Yup, I saw Paul Thorn last month and I have been listening to his live cd almost every day since... ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #443 ********************************************