From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #411 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, October 12 2000 Volume 04 : Number 411 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Any Uncle Bonsai fans still here [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: OT: BNL's Behind the Music ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Help out a band to get a record deal 3651 [dryejn@*remove*hotmail.com] Re: The Item On EBay ["Lindsay Lion" ] Re: Hey, I've been trying to reach you! [Melanie ] Re: The Item On EBay [sisterpuff@my-deja.com] Re: The Item On EBay [tmbgirl@my-deja.com] Re: The Item On EBay [tmbgirl@my-deja.com] Re: The Item On EBay [leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender)] Re: The Item On EBay ["Lindsay Lion" ] Re: The Item On EBay [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: The Item On EBay ["Lindsay Lion" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 11 Oct 2000 04:08:55 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re: Any Uncle Bonsai fans still here >I'm still here! I'm still here! The only reason I ever heard about Uncle >Bonsai was that they came up in some thread here last year. >I saw the date listed on the FUV website last month and I'm *really* hoping >to make this show. Anybody else? >Carey I'm going. But you knew that. (:-) Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:08:36 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: OT: BNL's Behind the Music sisterpuff@my-deja.com wrote: > > In article <39E1D45B.4CE04934@ehmail.com>, > chrissiek@ehmail.com wrote: > > So I take it you missed seeing Mike Wood in the "Brian Wilson" video? > > Oh wait...he didn't sing at Frucon III. > > Uhm, I don't know how I should take that remark. For one thing, I have > no idea what Mike Wook looks like. Secondly, I've never seen the Brian > Wilson video. Thirdly, I didn't even see the BNL Behind the Music. If > you read what I wrote correctly, you would've gotten that third point. > This is why I barely post to the newsgroup. THIS is why you barely post to the newsgroup? Really? What is "This"? I think you have us all confused now. Chrissy didn't say anything about you having seen anything. In fact she didn't say much of anything at all. She cracked a silly joke which was pointed much more at Mike Wood than at you anyway. I hate to say it, but I really think that it is sad that you feel the need to write a post that is so dripping with contempt for this Newsgroup and everyone who reads it. If you wanna grouse, why not really do it? Come on, what EXACTLY IS your problem with this newsgroup? Who is it that so annoys you? Come on, name names! Without Fruvous on the road, we really need a good flame war to get things going here. I'm game. Take a position of some sort, and I'll take the opposing side. I'm sure we can get something good going in no time! :) A.J. - -- "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." - --G.W.Bush Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 Email:aj@locicero.org ICQ: 13117113 AIM: locicero For some of the best Long Distance and Calling Card rates around visit http://www.ld.net/?sensible. Cheap rates and *I* get a commission! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:05:41 GMT From: dryejn@*remove*hotmail.com Subject: Help out a band to get a record deal 3651 We are a up and coming band in Florida. We are internet savvy and really want to win a local band contest. The local radio station is allowing the people of the internet to decide our faith. There is a poll thats being taken to decide wich local bands will play in a huge concert with many famous bands. We are NOTEVENRADIO please go to this site and vote for us!! http://www.planetradio933.com/native2.html Please help us by voting for NOTEVENRADIO Lets show them the real power of the internet!!! We support the internet music revolution long live MP3 Thanks for your help, Benjamin Lead Singer NOTEVENRADIO ssxhixndghijuxtfwfmlisqzofvtnxcgugzbxnmefbhvinegwpebkozoeqxpcfrjugxremlltfhkupmwmnkhyd ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:59:43 GMT From: "Lindsay Lion" Subject: Re: The Item On EBay My other comment, why make a print of something that you can't afford to print right now? Or find somewhere else to print. I mean, we are (usually) a helpful community and maybe someone would have helped you. Putting up a single pic (amature at that, and that's not a knock, those are the most fun, but not any better than any of us can take) on Ebay for that price is just kind of lame in my opinion. I'm not trying to be rude, but just trying to add my thoughts to the conversation. - -- - --- Lindsay Lion Manager of Operations & Technology Biosyn, Inc. llion@biosyn-inc.com A.J. LoCicero wrote in message news:39E3E436.4926354D@locicero.org... > sisterpuff@my-deja.com wrote: > > > > Oky Dok. > > To answer some of your questions concerning the :::Picture of Murray::: > > > One page costs $6.50 plus > > tax...then include shipping and handling and there you have the $7.00. > > Hmm. I wasn't really aware that there was a controversy going on over > this. I think the only thing that seems somewhat odd is that you put it > up on Ebay (an auction site). This implies that one is trying to get > the highest bid possible, not just the $7.00 that the photo cost you to > make. Perhaps you SHOULD have just posted it here and said that your > cost was 7 bucks and so that was what you were selling it for. I > seriously doubt anyone would have jumped down your throat for that. > What people here get all prickly about is the idea of anyone making > money off the band. You should have been around for the old debates > about whether it was moral to sell used CDs. That was a hoot! > > Anyway that is just my 2 cents because I have other things I really must > be working on, so consequently I'm reading the NG instead of doing > them. > > A.J. > -- > "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." > --G.W.Bush Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 > > Email:aj@locicero.org ICQ: 13117113 AIM: locicero > > For some of the best Long Distance and Calling Card rates around visit > http://www.ld.net/?sensible. Cheap rates and *I* get a commission! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:23:43 -0400 From: Melanie Subject: Re: Hey, I've been trying to reach you! Tom Salyers sent us: >>(Joe Navratil) says... > I'm not dead yet! > (I think I'll go for a walk...) and Joe says: >>Shut up, you. You'll be stone dead in a moment...<< As I see it from a careful reading of this newsgroup DEAD = MURRAY = GOD How bad can that be? ;-) Nice to hear from you Joe. melanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:34:06 GMT From: "Lindsay Lion" Subject: Re: The Item On EBay An addendum to my other post, Amy - why didn't you just ask your friends that you made these pics for for the money. I mean, if you were making the copies for them, you could have just said - "hey, here's what it'll cost - do you still want it?". I'm sorry you feel the need to get all defensive, but really, don't you think you're being a bit of a drama-queen about this whole thing. It was your choice to put that thing up on Ebay. If you think that you aren't ripping someone off (or even if you are, that's your perogative) because you chose to pay a ridiculous price for a reprint of a ordinary picture, then hey. Good for you. That's what Ebay is there for. But clearly you feel that you need to defend yourself from attack. And I quote "And, even if I tried to say something on here, plenty of people would jump down my throat and basically put a contract out on my life because I tried to do such a thing". But honey, you did just say something by writing this whole post, so you made your bed, lie in it. If you want to sell something as silly as that on ebay (just my opinion) - and then advertise it on a newsgroup that you hardly read, by your own admission, then deal with what is coming to you. Otherwise, shut up and sit down. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:26:14 GMT From: sisterpuff@my-deja.com Subject: Re: The Item On EBay In article , "Lindsay Lion" wrote: > An addendum to my other post, > > Amy - why didn't you just ask your friends that you made these pics for for > the money. I mean, if you were making the copies for them, you could have > just said - "hey, here's what it'll cost - do you still want it?". > > I'm sorry you feel the need to get all defensive, but really, don't you > think you're being a bit of a drama-queen about this whole thing. It was > your choice to put that thing up on Ebay. If you think that you aren't > ripping someone off (or even if you are, that's your perogative) because you > chose to pay a ridiculous price for a reprint of a ordinary picture, then > hey. Good for you. That's what Ebay is there for. > > But clearly you feel that you need to defend yourself from attack. > > And I quote "And, even if I tried to say something on here, plenty of people > would jump down my throat and basically put a contract out on my life > because I tried to do such a thing". > > But honey, you did just say something by writing this whole post, so you > made your bed, lie in it. If you want to sell something as silly as that on > ebay (just my opinion) - and then advertise it on a newsgroup that you > hardly read, by your own admission, then deal with what is coming to you. > Otherwise, shut up and sit down. i really don't care. there were just several posts concerning it and i just figured to give people the reason why it's there. everyone can have their own opinions, including myself. i'm lying in my bed and i'm enjoying... anyone care to bring me some hot tea? i have a soar throat. talk to y'all in about four or five months from now... amy Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:40:51 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: Re: The Item On EBay In article <8s27rc$j8a$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, sisterpuff@my-deja.com wrote: hahhaaa, amy!!! you can't leave now... it's finally getting good again... i haven't been this souped about reading the newsgroup since... well... right after frucon III!!! hahahaaa... conincidence? take it easy, JOrdaN http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/ so glad i finally came back! :) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:33:27 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: Re: The Item On EBay "Lindsay Lion" wrote: > An addendum to my other post, and i thought this one would be more reasonable! :P > Amy - why didn't you just ask your friends that you made these pics > for for the money. I mean, if you were making the copies for them, > you could have just said - "hey, here's what it'll cost - do you > still want it?". who's to say she didn't? who's to say she didn't just have an extra copy and decided to throw it up on ebay for auction because *every* other band out there has people doing the same thing for them? > I'm sorry you feel the need to get all defensive, but really, don't > you think you're being a bit of a drama-queen about this whole > thing. uhm hi, did you forget that amy had nothing to do with starting the conversation about the photo here on this fine newsgroup? i believe it was you (as in opposers) that made such a big deal out of it. > It was your choice to put that thing up on Ebay. If you think that > you aren't ripping someone off (or even if you are, that's your > perogative) because you chose to pay a ridiculous price for a reprint > of a ordinary picture, then hey. Good for you. That's what Ebay is > there for. you completely contradict yourself here. You said, "That's what Ebay is there for"... yeah making products availabe to people that want them. so if someone doesn't want the item, and they decide that "yo this sisterpuff is ripping people off with that price," then they can also say "yo, i don't think i'll bid on it." > But clearly you feel that you need to defend yourself from attack. > And I quote "And, even if I tried to say something on here, plenty of > people would jump down my throat and basically put a contract out on > my life because I tried to do such a thing". and if i just up and said "suck it" don't you think that you'd defend yourself and say "waaawaaa that was soooo uncalled for and immature" (and believe me, if you didn't someone else on this newsgroup would). You'd think that there was no logical reason why i would have said such a comment to you. Amy is completely baffled as to why people are yelling at her about such a pointless issue. people sell pictures of bands *all* the time on ebay. i know that i would *never* expect to get b!tched at because i did something that happens *every* day on ebay in thousands of cases. so just like you would think i was a crackhead if i happened to tell you to go suck it... she thinks you guys are crackheads because you're getting your panties in a knot over something as ridiculous as this. (no offense to any crackheads out there.. don't want to get yelled at myself, ok wait, i think i do). > But honey, uhm no offense, but who the f*ck are you calling "honey?" > you did just say something by writing this whole post, so you > made your bed, lie in it. i think she was by standing up for herself and you then you ridicule her for doing that. make up your mind! > If you want to sell something as silly as that on ebay (just my > opinion) how funny is it that you include this "Just my opinion" at the end of the post? because the way you're b!tchin about it you make it sound liek *everyone* feels that way. if that was the case, i don't think that soooo many people would be selling pictures of their favorite band members all over ebay. > - and then advertise it on a newsgroup that you > hardly read, by your own admission, gee, i wonder why she wouldn't want to! hahahaaaa. > then deal with what is coming to you. > Otherwise, shut up and sit down. how's she gonna deal with it by not standing up for herself? i'm just a bit confused. i also don't like that you told a good friend of mine to shut up. this is an open forum... if you don't want to hear what she has to say, then don't read it but there is absolutely ABSOLUTELY no reason why you should ever feel the need to tell her not to speak her mind, ok? bye honey! JOrdaN (who's not takin' it easy right now) http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 2000 01:00:16 GMT From: leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender) Subject: Re: The Item On EBay >she thinks you guys are crackheads because you're >getting your panties in a knot over something as ridiculous as this. I'm usually not someone who says anything, but I think one should untie one's own drawers first... >uhm no offense, but who the f*ck are you calling "honey?" I rest my case about the knotted knickers. >there is absolutely ABSOLUTELY >no reason why you should ever feel the need to tell her not to speak >her mind, ok? and there's absolutely no reason for you to tell someone else not to speak their own mind. I would suggest taking a valium before posting next time. - -Bender - ---------------------------------- whatever we lose (like a you or a me) it's always ourselves we find in the sea - - e. e. cummings - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:12:54 -0400 From: "Lindsay Lion" Subject: Re: The Item On EBay /me tries to stifle her uproarious laughter. (wipes tears of laugher from eyes) This is the kind of action I was looking for! The flamebait has been taken. Let the fire roar! Lindsay wrote in message news:8s2tc7$6cl$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > "Lindsay Lion" wrote: > > An addendum to my other post, > > and i thought this one would be more reasonable! :P And I thought you'd be funny. > > who's to say she didn't? who's to say she didn't just have an extra > copy and decided to throw it up on ebay for auction because *every* > other band out there has people doing the same thing for them? > If every other kid jumped off the bridge, would you do it too? I was merely asking a question honey, OOPS! darlin', all she had to do was answer. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 2000 01:27:42 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: The Item On EBay Um, Lindsay, Amy absolutely DID NOT "advertise" her posting on eBay of that picture here on the NG ...maybe you didn't read the whole genesis of this thread or maybe you just jumped to the part that interested you .. however, the topic of the pic on eBay came up when someone else (one of the Chads I think) posted a pretty scathing one-liner about the item telling whoever had posted it to "get a life". Can you blame her for feeling a bit attacked? To be quite honest, Amy has every right to be thin-skinned about this whole thing ... she was being criticized at least and attacked at worst before she responded at all. She also never said she was posting the pic to get back her money. She said that her friends suggested she give selling it a shot because it was such a great picture that maybe others out there might want a copy of it. Why not just post it for sale or trade on this NG as some people suggested??? Because as hard as this may be to believe, not every single Fruhead in the world is part of this NG. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:29:19 -0400 From: "Lindsay Lion" Subject: Re: The Item On EBay "BBWMinors" wrote in message news:20001011212742.29264.00001443@ng-co1.aol.com... > Um, Lindsay, Amy absolutely DID NOT "advertise" her posting on eBay of that > picture here on the NG ...maybe you didn't read the whole genesis of this > thread or maybe you just jumped to the part that interested you .. however, the > topic of the pic on eBay came up when someone else (one of the Chads I think) > posted a pretty scathing one-liner about the item telling whoever had posted it > to "get a life". Can you blame her for feeling a bit attacked? Oh, she has every right, absolutely. And I admit when I am wrong. My bad on the advertising. > > To be quite honest, Amy has every right to be thin-skinned about this whole > thing ... she was being criticized at least and attacked at worst before she > responded at all. > Which is reasonable, as they were the opinions of the people posting, regarding the auction. I see no foul here. > She also never said she was posting the pic to get back her money. She said > that her friends suggested she give selling it a shot because it was such a > great picture that maybe others out there might want a copy of it. Why not just > post it for sale or trade on this NG as some people suggested??? Because as > hard as this may be to believe, not every single Fruhead in the world is part > of this NG. > Oh, i think most are not on the NG. She can sell it if she thinks she can, and if it does, more power to her. I still think it is lame, and that's my right. Good discussion though. Lindsay > > ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #411 ********************************************