From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #380 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, September 12 2000 Volume 04 : Number 380 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 9.2.2k review [Ellen A Handbasket ] Re: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFJlOiBSZTogUmU6IFN0cmFuZ2UgRnL8IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24uLi4=?= [Ellen A Handbasket ] Re: Strange Frü connection... [Ellen A Handbasket ] Re: burlybear? [Victorria Johnson ] Re: Jumping to conclusions, sans evidence.. [Ellen A Handbasket ] =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6ICBSZTogUmU6IFN0cmFuZ2UgRnL8IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24uLi4=?= [ca] =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6ICBSZTogUmU6IFN0cmFuZ2UgRnL8IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24uLi4=?= [ca] re: 9.2.2k review [Lori Martin ] Re: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6ICBSZTogUmU6IFN0cmFuZ2UgRnL8IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24uLi4=?= [vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafri] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:21:13 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: 9.2.2k review In article <8pf1s8$b5i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, sisterpuff@my-deja.com wrote: > ~Jian was wearing a shirt that says, "Guys are Great" you missed the fine print underneath. peace, ellen (which read, "everyone should have one.") ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:18:29 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFJlOiBSZTogUmU6IFN0cmFuZ2UgRnL8IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24uLi4=?= In article <20000908171920.23288.00000228@ng-cb1.aol.com>, msraincloud@aol.com (Ms Rain Cloud) wrote: > Most "Fru-heads" are not hippies from > my experience. And I have had a lot of experience. *ahem* can we assume that the band has more experience than you do? they're the one(s) [1] who gave us the name. i personally have no strong feelings about it being flattering or not, but there it is nonetheless. peace, ellen [1] i think it was jian or mike who actually said it the first time, but someone else can correct me if i'm wrong about that. ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:06:59 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: Question! In article <39B96888.9CD7F6B0@bosconet.org>, Loren Becker wrote: > The music they were playing in the house before the show was Eggbot, a > performer/group from Maine. "best band EVERrrr." -- Tobey. peace, ellen (beating amanda to it) ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:13:25 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: Strange Frü connection... In article , Trace wrote: > On 09 Sep 2000 06:22:50 GMT, carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759) wrote: > > >>Wow. An era of free-thinking, tradition-breaking rebellion and > >>experimentation is reduced to long haired stoners driving a bus, or > >>people who listen to a certain type of music. > > > >But that's what "hippies" of today are. > > I disagree completely. The drugs, the music and the clothing may be > what most people identify with the hippies, but those are surface > qualities that are empty in and of themselves. Those things were > outward expressions of the questioning of traditional roles and > values. Without the social consciousness as a driving force, the long > haired stoner is just that, a long haired stoner, regardless of what > he's driving or listening to. The fact that people think the hippie > experience is all about the drugs and such is an indication that the > greater point was missed. thank you, trace. peace, ellen (you saved me from getting all sputtery and offended-like) ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:59:16 GMT From: Victorria Johnson Subject: Re: burlybear? What happened? I left my job at Burlybear! Actually, I'm only half joking. We had to take the links out because there were legal issues with some of the labels about streaming the videos from different bands. AND the fact that we just did a re-vamp on design and content (if you go now, you'll see a completely different site). I am hoping that they will put the Fruvous links back up (especially since the videos were appropriately ok'd by Fruvous Headquarters and the guys themselves--I think Murray and Mike only saw "Sad Girl" after it was online!!). But since I'm no longer there I don't really have a say anymore. But you guys do--if you email them at info@burlybear.com and request to have Moxy Fruvous videos back, they'll probably put them in the Video Shuffle section. Just so you know, traffic-wise, the Moxy Fruvous videos were the most requested videos from the site many many days in a row. Keep it up! Best, Victorria Johnson Rachel wrote: > wow. Ok. they used to be easy to find, but someone's restructured.... the > only way I found it now was by going to "help" and then "sitemap", and then > "burly music" (a big linked heading). You get a new window and two menus at > the top -- one says "burly music" and rock-pop is filed under that. Weezer > comes up, and the other menu says "bands A-Z" and you just look for Fruvous. > > It only works in netscape, for the record, on my computer at least. Can I > just say that it used to be MUCH easier to find. What happened???? > > -Rachel > > > From: mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie) > > Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com > > Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous > > Date: 07 Sep 2000 03:08:19 GMT > > Subject: burlybear? > > > > > > I've tried to find the fruvous videos on burlybear.com but i can't find them > > :( > > does anyone know where on the site they are? I'm so bored at work! Need > > entertainment!! :) > > > > -shan > > > > "By a stream of running water, I heard you laugh. > > I closed my eyes for an hour and a half, and tried to make you appear. > > I swear in the beauty of the setting sun, you were here." ~Moxy Fruvous~ > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:51:12 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: Jumping to conclusions, sans evidence.. In article <39BCEEE5.36F8730A@Fruvous.com>, Chad Maloney wrote: > It leaves it totally up to me to decide whether > I want to take the advice or not. it's Free Will spam. how do you suppose that compares to Deterministic Spam? > Interesting. I hope we stay on this spam list and get more advice > each week, like "Don't count your chickens.. before they hatch". hey chad? don't take any wooden nickels. peace, ellen ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2000 19:41:33 GMT From: msraincloud@aol.com (Ms Rain Cloud) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?IFJlOiBSZTogU3RyYW5nZSBGcvwgY29ubmVjdGlvbi4uLg==?= >From: Ellen A Handbasket ellen@fruhead.com *ahem* can we assume that the band has more experience than you do? >they're the one(s) [1] who gave us the name. Excuse me, but I tend not to take everything Fruvous says on stage to heart. I tend to go by my OWN observations, and I also stand by my opinion than Fru-heads are FAR from hippies. I don't need to be on stage every show to realize that. Sorry if that disappoints you. If you want to be a hippie, I am not stopping you. But I don't associate hippies with Moxy Fruvous, and I never will. - - Siobhan <~~~getting tired of this ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:19:56 GMT From: bradbourne@my-deja.com Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?B?IFJlOiBSZTogU3RyYW5nZSBGcvwgY29ubmVjdGlvbi4uLg==?= msraincloud@aol.com (Ms Rain Cloud) wrote: >IN reponse to: >From: Ellen A Handbasket ellen@fruhead.com > - Siobhan <~~~getting tired of this Well, if you are getting tired of it, stop posting about it. Opinions... Assholes... - -Mark- Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:33:23 EDT From: FruCake1@aol.com Subject: The shirt (was Re: 9.2.2k review) The shirt reads: Boys are Great Every girl should own one Lisa Bills- the one responsible for the shirt. LOL! ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2000 21:08:18 GMT From: saphiracat83@aol.com-remove- (SaphiraCat83) Subject: Re: 9.2.2k review >> ~Jian was wearing a shirt that says, "Guys are Great" > >you missed the fine print underneath. > >peace, >ellen (which read, "everyone should have one.") > A friend of mine wanted to get a shirt that said that. I always thought the line was "Boys are great, every girl should own one." Ah, well, maybe that's what is says only in Joisey... - -Saph (Who doesn't understand the new trend of "boy bashing shirts") ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2000 21:09:55 GMT From: saphiracat83@aol.com-remove- (SaphiraCat83) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFJlOiBSZTogUmU6IFJlOiBTdHJhbmdlIEZy/CBjb25uZWN0aW9uLi4u?= >they're the one(s) [1] who gave us the name. > >i personally have no strong feelings about it being flattering or not, >but there it is nonetheless. > >peace, >ellen > >[1] i think it was jian or mike who actually said it the first time, but >someone else can correct me if i'm wrong about that. >************************************************ Jian said it first at the 11-13-97 show, I think. I know I have it on tape somewhere... - -Saph *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* "If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands." - --Dirk Gently http://www.geocities.com/saphiracat *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:59:11 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?B?IFJlOiBSZTogU3RyYW5nZSBGcvwgY29ubmVjdGlvbi4uLg==?= In article <20000911154133.29900.00000321@ng-cc1.aol.com>, msraincloud@aol.com (Ms Rain Cloud) wrote: > Excuse me, but I tend not to take everything Fruvous says on stage to > heart. I tend to go by my OWN observations, and I also stand by my > opinion than Fru-heads are FAR from hippies. I don't need to be on > stage every show to realize that. bully for you, my dear. you're the one who decided that experience proves that fruhead=! hippie. other people agree or disagree. i don't give a damn either way. i'm just telling you why this comes up so often. onstage banter is constant conversation fodder round these parts. > - Siobhan <~~~getting tired of this then i second what mark said. peace, ellen ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:40:37 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Jumping to conclusions, sans evidence.. Adam 'Plastic Cup' Prestin wrote: > > isn't bright. You know, I've gotten all kinds of spam. Someone wanting to tickle guys. Free porn. How to manage my life. Free websites. But this is the first "advice" spam I've seen. No references to anything at all. No web page to visit to get more helpful advice. No case studies to show that this advice is truly helpful. Just the advice, cut between the subject and the body. It leaves it totally up to me to decide whether I want to take the advice or not. Interesting. I hope we stay on this spam list and get more advice each week, like "Don't count your chickens.. before they hatch". - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:45:22 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: Question! In article <8pisdv$g2e$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Ellen A Handbasket wrote: > > The music they were playing in the house before the show was Eggbot, > > a performer/group from Maine. > > "best band EVERrrr." -- Tobey. eggbot is a bizarre little man who speaks in third person, but will astound you with lyrics like "I find myself looking at Robert Plant's package." yessir, buy three copies if it now. - -anna- http://elements.dreamhost.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Sep 2000 00:46:20 GMT From: carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6ICBSZTogUmU6IFN0cmFuZ2UgRnL8IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24uLi4=?= >> - Siobhan <~~~getting tired of this > >Well, if you are getting tired of it, stop posting about it. > >Opinions... Assholes... > >-Mark- > That was necessary. *Beware the newsgroup police!* ------------------------------ Date: 12 Sep 2000 00:44:47 GMT From: carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6ICBSZTogUmU6IFN0cmFuZ2UgRnL8IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24uLi4=?= > >bully for you, my dear. you're the one who decided that experience >proves that fruhead=! hippie. other people agree or disagree. i don't >give a damn either way. i'm just telling you why this comes up so often. >onstage banter is constant conversation fodder round these parts. > >> - Siobhan <~~~getting tired of this > >then i second what mark said. > If you don't care either way then why are you so obsessed with shoving your opinions down people's throats? I have been to a lot of concerts and can say from MY experience that fruheads do NOT = hippies. Who are YOU to tell me or anyone else otherwise? Why is it so important to you that we consider you a hippie? (Obviously it is, or you wouldn't be getting nasty about it.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:17:47 -0400 From: Lori Martin Subject: re: 9.2.2k review Amy said: > ~Jian was wearing a shirt that says, "Guys are Great" Small print below: "Every girl should own one." I love that shirt. :) - -- Lori Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru/Founding Member, Murray's Sect ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ He was a rock To the end a solid reminder Couldn't deny a friend ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 03:31:12 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6ICBSZTogUmU6IFN0cmFuZ2UgRnL8IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24uLi4=?= Spake carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759): >If you don't care either way then why are you so obsessed with shoving your >opinions down people's throats? I have been to a lot of concerts and can say >from MY experience that fruheads do NOT = hippies. Who are YOU to tell me or >anyone else otherwise? Why is it so important to you that we consider you a >hippie? (Obviously it is, or you wouldn't be getting nasty about it.) Argh. All I did was make a joke. Someone said "nerds". I said, "Geeks. And hippies" (or something to that effect, anyway), obviously (follow the damn link to fruvous.com) in reference to something *Moxy Fruvous* has repeatedly said about its fans. All of a sudden, people start jumping on each other's throats, screaming "Well, *I* am NOT a hippie!" Holy non-sequitur, Batman! In poor taste AND poor sense of humo(u)r. Ugh. - -v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "What comes from within is trustworthy." -- M. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #380 ********************************************