From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #374 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, September 7 2000 Volume 04 : Number 374 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: burlybear? [mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie)] Re: burlybear? [Rachel ] Re: Re: Strange Frü connection... [fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack)] Re: A Little OT... [fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack)] BUMrock Reader's Choice 9/3/00 [editor@bumrock.com (Dan Goodspeed)] hiatus.... [lunab1219@aol.com (LunaB1219)] Re: hiatus.... [bradbourne@my-deja.com] Re: The mystery of the Typo or misheard lyric? ["Natertots" ] Re: MPG? [Ellen A Handbasket ] Re: hiatus.... [Ellen A Handbasket ] Re: hiatus.... ["Daancing Queen" ] OT: Trip to Toronto ["Ken V" ] Re: The mystery of the Typo or misheard lyric? [Donna Hunt ] Re: hiatus.... [bradbourne@my-deja.com] Re: MPG? [FruCake1@aol.com] Re: MPG? [Paul Mischler ] Re: OT: Trip to Toronto [saphiracat83@aol.com-remove- (SaphiraCat83)] Re: MPG? [Paul Skudlarek ] Re: hiatus.... [Ellen A Handbasket ] Re: What to play to a non-fruvophile? [Paul Skudlarek ] Re: MPG? [Chad Maloney ] Re: hiatus.... [Aryn - Marietta Eaton ] Re: hiatus.... [carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759)] =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFJlOiBTdHJhbmdlIEZy/CBjb25uZWN0aW9uLi4u?= [pollen123@] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 07 Sep 2000 03:50:21 GMT From: mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie) Subject: Re: burlybear? Thanks Rachel! :) "By a stream of running water, I heard you laugh. I closed my eyes for an hour and a half, and tried to make you appear. I swear in the beauty of the setting sun, you were here." ~Moxy Fruvous~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 00:15:12 -0400 From: Rachel Subject: Re: burlybear? you're welcome. :) But I just realized -- I'm very, VERY tired -- that there's a link right to the Fruvous page from the main page at FDC. Just scroll down. Also known as http://www.burlybear.com/ArtistPages/ArtistPage.taf?_function=GetArtist&ARTI ST=50205 (Just in case anyone else doesn't want to spend half the night looking for the videos.) - -Rachel > From: mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie) > Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com > Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous > Date: 07 Sep 2000 03:50:21 GMT > Subject: Re: burlybear? > > Thanks Rachel! :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 03:38:23 GMT From: fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack) Subject: Re: Re: Strange Frü connection... fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack) wrote in <8FA7D7D61fruomffan21hotmailco@198.80.55.10>: >vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) wrote in ><39b7089f.58167487@news3.attglobal.net>: > >>Spake gewica@aol.com (GeWiCa): >> >>>Wow. Fruheads REALLY ARE nerds! Gimme a break!!!!!!!!! >> >>Geeks. Not nerds. Geeks. And hippies. >> >>-v, getting it right ;) > >Although I'm a bit more nerd than Hippie or Geek but I don't deny that I >am part G&H :). Hmmmm maybe we should change it to geek extrodinaire and >hippie. So.....then it would be GE&H. I know I'm silly and I get WAY to >much into science.... Add on---and you know that band....but thats something else ENTIRELY! ;) - -- Cara Kozack It's a reference to a _____ that you've never even heard of by\in\on a _____ that you probably don't even like! fruomffan@diganet.com www.crosswinds.net/~fruomffan ICQ: 56416421 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 03:33:45 GMT From: fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack) Subject: Re: A Little OT... bnljane1@aol.combnl (Resident Movie Critic) wrote in <20000906195133.02713.00001995@ng-cr1.aol.com>: >So I'm just sitting here watching Hollywood Squares (cause Tyler from BNL >is on it this week) and one of the questions was "What is Frankenstein >food?" Ok, so it's not QUITE Frankenfood, but the answer was genetically >engineered food, so I guess it counts? Kinda random, and I didn't have >any new messages in ammf when I signed on, so I thought I'd share........ Hmmmm seems like a lot of people aren't getting messages via the gateway... Anyway on the topic of the slightly OT....today when I answered the phone it was a telemarketing phone ad from everyones favourite Gen. Eng. Corp....Montsanto. The shtick ran along the lines of "Our crop products are safe and reliable, we would ask you as a farm family to switch over. The media coverage about Frankenfood is highly out of proportion. It is a safe as a good American grown hamburger! [snicker from me]....(bunch of junk about corporate loyalty, increased produtction and that we won't get sued if we "use the product unknowingly") So we would like to ask you to please reconsider your postion and plant Montsanto produce and spray with Monsanto products in the upcomming year [so you mean in 2001?] and be sure to look out for new Monsanto brand farm equipment. [oh trust me, I will]" After I had hung up I laughed for nearly 5 mintues straight...that was just too hilarious for me to do anything else. I would have laughed during the phone call but I didn't want to miss anything *sigh*....the memories... - -- Cara Kozack It's a reference to a _____ that you've never even heard of by\in\on a _____ that you probably don't even like! fruomffan@diganet.com www.crosswinds.net/~fruomffan ICQ: 56416421 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 04:33:01 GMT From: editor@bumrock.com (Dan Goodspeed) Subject: BUMrock Reader's Choice 9/3/00 - -- free zine- http://www.bumrock.com/members/ -- hey peoples... it's that time of the week again... ok, so it's a little after that time of the week, but you know... what better way to spend Labor Day weekend than to spend it avoiding all work, right? right. any way... i did make a bunch of new changes to BUMlocal, but again they're all unseen to the user. . another week or two... i promise good things (at least for the local albany folk). well, three new bad-ass songs grace the chart this week- "Driftwood"- Travis's latest piece... a beautiful ballad where they compare someone to a piece of wood. wish i thought of that. :-) this may be my favorite Travis song yet. "Free"- A well-crafted rock song... not too much more to say- lyrics are kinda lacking, but like a said- it's a generic rock song. "AM Radio"- Everclear is back following they're formula of power-pop rock and Art singing about when he "was a kid". and it still works... ok- so let us know what you think and all- - ------------------------------------ Reader's Choice http://www.bumrock.com/rc/ - ------------------------------------ 1) Bohemian Like You- Dandy Warhols (58.66) 2) Mad Dog- Elastica (52.99) 3) Radio Whore- Orbit (34.92) 4) Goodnight Moon- Shivaree (33.9) 5) Out Of This World- The Cure (32.35) 6) You're An Ocean- Fastball (31.45) 7) Never Gonna Come Back Down- BT (30.97) 8) The Lost Art of Keeping A Secret- Queens of the Stone Age (30.76) 9) Barrytown- Ben Folds Five (29.78) 10) Basement Apartment- Sarah Harmer (26.8) Screaming "Let Me In!" - ---------------------- Touch & Go- Vibrolush Tonight And The Rest Of My Life- Nina Gordon Bathwater- No Doubt Sad Sweetheart of the Rodeo- Harvey Danger Hemorrhage- Fuel Pinch Me- Barenaked Ladies Easy- Cowboy Mouth The First- Tegan & Sara Leaving Town- Dexter Freebish Eliot- Sarah Slean One- Sunny Day Real Estate Idol- Amanda Ghost Minority- Green Day The Way I Am- Eminem Walk The Walk- Poe Happier- Guster Climbing The Walls- Stir Mayan Pilot- Splashdown Next Year- Foo Fighters Driftwood- Travis Free- Vast AM Radio- Everclear Stellar- Incubus How Soon Is Now- Snake River Conspiracy Tangerine Speedo- Caviar Soul Catcher- The The Now That I Am Blind- Deathray *** AND DON'T FORGET TO VOTE FOR NEXT WEEK'S SONGS!!! *** http://www.bumrock.com/rc/vote.html keep on rockin, - -dan goodspeed Editor of BUMrock editor@bumrock.com http://www.bumrock.com/ ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 2000 13:41:51 GMT From: lunab1219@aol.com (LunaB1219) Subject: hiatus.... does anyone know how long this hiatus will last? ::sniffle:: i hope not for long.... thanks all lainie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:06:55 GMT From: bradbourne@my-deja.com Subject: Re: hiatus.... lunab1219@aol.com (LunaB1219) wrote: > does anyone know how long this hiatus will last? ::sniffle:: i hope >not for long.... In all honesty, I don't think it's a hiatus. I think that for now, Fruvous is no more... Dave's got his solo CD in the works, I'm pretty sure Mike and his wife will be in 'family mode', Jian is producing... I think that Fruvous has run it's course and now they will move on. I hope that in someways I'm wrong... because I will miss going to the shows, and I will miss seeing the people who I have become friends with... but on the other side, I can't wait to hear Dave's solo CD and I pray that he tours on it... Just my $.02... - -Mark- (No, I don't have any inside information, and this is purely my feeling) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:23:03 -0400 From: "Natertots" Subject: Re: The mystery of the Typo or misheard lyric? Yeah... it's gotta be "finally". This is how I've always heard it.... but I was rolling around the possibility of "finely" in my head all morning, and I just can't figure out a way that it would make any sense whatsoever..... :) nate "Pollen123" wrote in message news:20000906221306.03875.00000783@ng-cr1.aol.com... > >He told me that he sings it as "finally," and he seemed to think I was on > >crack for thinking that "finely" would be equally as appropriate. > > I always thought it is "finally." I don't think "finely" makes any sense at > all. I have noticed that when bands print their lyrics there are often > mistakes. This could just be a mistake... I sure hope it isn't "finely." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:49:08 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: The mystery of the Typo or misheard lyric? Pollen123 wrote: > > I always thought it is "finally." I don't think "finely" makes any sense at > all. I have noticed that when bands print their lyrics there are often > mistakes. This could just be a mistake... I sure hope it isn't "finely." I think "finely blurred" is a lot cooler than "finally blurred". In the context, finally blurred would mean that I finally drank enough to blur my senses about the time the ambulance arrives. Sure, ok. In the context, finely blurred would mean that from all the drinking my senses were both more acute than normal and also blurred. Now that is a pretty good description to me. It makes perfect sense. So, to me it could be either. But just as long as you don't sing "None but the best best cause the man cannot rest until he's finally beaten his meat" then you're version of the Drinking Song is as good as mine is. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 2000 15:48:12 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: hiatus.... Why do I think that this response may set off a record-breaking thread????? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:52:58 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: hiatus.... LunaB1219 wrote: > > does anyone know how long this hiatus will last? ::sniffle:: i hope not for > long.... There is no set time. The band has given the go ahead for FruCon IV, but they had no involvement in FruCon II so that prolly doesn't mean anything. I think a lot of people have their own opinions on what "hiatus" means and how long it will last. But honestly, I don't believe anyone knows how long it will be, even the band. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:12:50 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: MPG? In article <39B70643.4971AF8C@ehmail.com>, chrissiek@ehmail.com wrote: > What happened to MPG(.com) on Netscape 4.7? I get a blank white screen. yeah, holy blank page, batman. only mine's grey. ;) peace, ellen (also using netscape 4.7) ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:17:17 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: hiatus.... In article <39B7ABCA.1F581293@Fruvous.com>, Chad Maloney wrote: > But honestly, I don't believe anyone knows > how long it will be, even the band. i think chad makes a good point. the fact that the band has said nothing specific about the "hiatus" (i'm beginning to get sick of this word) is telling. perhaps they just don't know themselves. or they know, but don't want to raise/crush hopes. either way, as long as they're not sharing, we really don't know. peace, ellen (who would like to keep the teeny tiny optimistic voice around, but has little to feed it with) ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 13:19:35 EDT From: "Daancing Queen" Subject: Re: hiatus.... >From: bradbourne@my-deja.com >Fruvous is no more... Dave's got his solo CD in the works, I'm pretty >sure Mike and his wife will be in 'family mode', Jian is producing... I Proving that timing is everything...putting the phrase "Jian is producing" directly after talking about Mike & his wife starting a family put only one thought into my head. I'm just not even going to go there...but I'm sure I'm not the only one who had the same thought. :) Sara _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:42:53 GMT From: "Ken V" Subject: OT: Trip to Toronto Hi Fruheads, I'm going to Toronto on Business next week, and I'm wondering if anyone could suggest good restaurants, any cool cd/dvd stores or other things to do? I sure wish there was a fru show to take in...oh well. Thanks, Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:13:04 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: The mystery of the Typo or misheard lyric? Chad Maloney wrote: > I think "finely blurred" is a lot cooler than "finally blurred". Ditto this. > So, to me it could be either. But just as long as you don't sing > "None but the best best cause the man cannot rest until he's finally > beaten his meat" then you're version of the Drinking Song is as > good as mine is. Right. Because we all know it's "Finely beaten his mead." ciao, donna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:50:43 GMT From: bradbourne@my-deja.com Subject: Re: hiatus.... In article , "Daancing Queen" wrote: > >From: bradbourne@my-deja.com > >Fruvous is no more... Dave's got his solo CD in the works, I'm pretty > >sure Mike and his wife will be in 'family mode', Jian is producing... > > Proving that timing is everything...putting the phrase "Jian is producing" > directly after talking about Mike & his wife starting a family put only one > thought into my head. Jian: No! No! No! You are doing it all wrong Mike!! Let me show you!! Mike: Ouch! Should you be doing that to my wife instead of me?! bad! bad! bad!, Mark! NO COOKIE FOR ME! *This post was mearly in jest and was not meant in a mean way* Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:38:47 EDT From: FruCake1@aol.com Subject: Re: MPG? Hello everyone, I'm still not up-to-date on all this computer junk, so is there anyone that can explain to me why those using Netscape 4.7 aren't able to get MPG? I can get it on Explorer so I'd like to make the changes if Netscape can't read it. Forgive my ignorance. :)Thanks! Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:16:07 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Re: MPG? Hmm... There is a pretty major HTML error on the page. IE recovers from the error a little bit better and actually tries to display something (since IE is not terribly standards-compliant, and the code on MPG isn't up to specs for HTML code. For those of you interested in techno babble, read on: There is no closing tag, nor an opening tag in the HTML of the main framed page. Thus, your browser is being fooled into thinking that the header of the page never ends, and that the body never begins. THus, your browser thinks that there is no web page. So, it displays your default web page. In Netscape, by default, it's a blank gray page. - -Paul Ellen A Handbasket wrote: > In article <39B70643.4971AF8C@ehmail.com>, > chrissiek@ehmail.com wrote: > > What happened to MPG(.com) on Netscape 4.7? I get a blank white screen. > > yeah, holy blank page, batman. only mine's grey. ;) > > peace, > ellen (also using netscape 4.7) > ************************************************* > When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 2000 20:14:10 GMT From: saphiracat83@aol.com-remove- (SaphiraCat83) Subject: Re: OT: Trip to Toronto > I'm going to Toronto on Business next week, and I'm wondering if anyone >could suggest good restaurants, any cool cd/dvd stores or other things to >do? I sure wish there was a fru show to take in...oh well. Well, on GoJian.com (the JiSpot in particular) they have the Anti-Chain Depot...that might have something. http://www.gojian.com - -Saph *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* "If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands." - --Dirk Gently http://www.geocities.com/saphiracat *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:44:27 GMT From: Paul Skudlarek Subject: Re: MPG? As mentioned (by someone else) in a previous post, there's really not much you can do to fix it -- it is a programming error on the part of the website. In theory, someone who know where to put the missing tags could download the page to his/her own machine, fix it, then look at it locally, but that's about it. - -- Pauley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:21:52 GMT From: Ellen A Handbasket Subject: Re: hiatus.... In article , "Daancing Queen" wrote: > >sure Mike and his wife will be in 'family mode', Jian is producing... > but I'm sure I'm not the only one who had the same thought. :) oh, no-- you're totally not! i guess there's a "re" missing, but i parsed it the same way you did. peace, ellen ************************************************* When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:23:12 GMT From: Paul Skudlarek Subject: Re: What to play to a non-fruvophile? I tend to think that You Will Go To The Moon (the song, specifically) is also a good way to introduce the a capella harmonies... good tune, especially when performed live. - -- Pauley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:16:31 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Re: MPG? Hmm... There is a pretty major HTML error on the page. IE recovers from the error a little bit better and actually tries to display something (since IE is not terribly standards-compliant, and the code on MPG isn't up to specs for HTML code. For those of you interested in techno babble, read on: There is no closing tag, nor an opening tag in the HTML of the main framed page. Thus, your browser is being fooled into thinking that the header of the page never ends, and that the body never begins. THus, your browser thinks that there is no web page. So, it displays your default web page. In Netscape, by default, it's a blank gray page. - -Paul Ellen A Handbasket wrote: > In article <39B70643.4971AF8C@ehmail.com>, > chrissiek@ehmail.com wrote: > > What happened to MPG(.com) on Netscape 4.7? I get a blank white screen. > > yeah, holy blank page, batman. only mine's grey. ;) > > peace, > ellen (also using netscape 4.7) > ************************************************* > When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:27:35 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: MPG? FruCake1@aol.com wrote: > I'm still not up-to-date on all this computer junk, so is there > anyone that can explain to me why those using Netscape 4.7 aren't > able to get MPG? I can get it on Explorer so I'd like to make the > changes if Netscape can't read it. I don't know anything about frames really, mostly because I extremely dislike them, but from looking at your HTML you need another after your first one. Just pop open vi or your HTML editor of choice and smack it in there you should be ok. Or rewrite the page without frames and that silly splash page, but I guess those are just my opinions... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:44:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Aryn - Marietta Eaton Subject: Re: hiatus.... Well, I think we've all been pretty spoiled by Fruvous touring as much as they do. Look at "big" bands, like U2 or REM, they take 2 or 3 years "off" at a time. Idividual memebers work on other projects, they do normal things like get married or have kids, and then something kicks in and they come back from time off bigger and better than ever. I'm looking forward to Seeing Fruvous again when that happens. Even if I haven't seen them since february, and they didn't come back to Minneapolis like they said they would. It's been a lot longer since I've seen U2 and I've survied. Okay, I had to get the pouting in here somewhere. Aryn, going back to lurking now > LunaB1219 wrote: > > > > does anyone know how long this hiatus will last? > ::sniffle:: i hope not for > > long.... ===== Aryn - Marietta Eaton Lady Caelfind ni Mullen (called Alanna) Minister of Children, shire of Innersea CoFounder House Ferrit Self professed Star Wars, U2, and Moxy Fruvous Fanatic "I wouldn't want to go to Omaha, even if I was dead." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 2000 21:49:40 GMT From: carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759) Subject: Re: hiatus.... One of my friends said she asked Jian in Ottawa what the deal is with the rumoured break-up and he said they are NOT breaking up, that it is just a hiatus. Maybe he was just trying to calm her down or something, but I would hate to think he would lie about it. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 2000 22:03:41 GMT From: pollen123@aol.com (Pollen123) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFJlOiBTdHJhbmdlIEZy/CBjb25uZWN0aW9uLi4u?= >Geeks. Not nerds. Geeks. And hippies. I agree with geeks, but more so nerds, maybe even weirdos, but not hippies... well maybe a few ex-hippies. I think geek implies something more negative than nerd. Hey if being intelligent and artsy makes me a weirdo nerd, so be it. I wouldn't have it any other way! ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #374 ********************************************