From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #332 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, August 3 2000 Volume 04 : Number 332 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions [lawrence solomon ] Re: I see dead people (was Ghosts of Fruvous Obsession) [Taylor Nelson ] Re: Falcon Ridge PICTURES! ["Ken Perschke" ] Re: OT:(Dinner Reservations) Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions [Donna Hunt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:34:09 -0400 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions Ellen wrote: > actually, the feeling of being blown off implies that you > expected something different. she didn't say she was sad that > jian hadn't had time to stay and talk to her. she said he'd > blown her off. and, after reading the account of the event, I'm inclined to agree that she was blown off. if you're having a conversation with someone, it's rude to abandon it, no matter who you are. > read the actual words, lawrence. eternally grateful. moxy > fruvous did not pull anyone from the path of a speeding car. or > drag them from the depths of despair. this is a band we're > talking about. they bring a little joy into all of our lives, > or we wouldn't be here. but perspective! this is where > perspective comes in. expecting the band to be the sole light- > at-the-end-of-your-daily-tunnel is just unfair to them. no one said it was anyone's *sole* light-at-the-end-of-their-daily-tunnel. they bring more joy into some people's lives than others. not to mention that there's more than just a band going on here. there *is* a community. I've become close friends with more people in the past 2 years than I have in the entire first 21 years of my life. And for *that*, I am eternally grateful. > exactly. that's the feeling that a bunch of people got-- all the > criticism stemmed from that feeling. what do you call "relies > on fruvous a little too heavily" if not "expects" something from > the experience? one can always expect certain abstract things, like enjoyment. I expect to enjoy every Früvous show I attend - and I do enjoy them, albeit in different ways each time. Sometimes it's because they played a song I liked, or because they did a funny improv, or because they chatted with me after the show. But I don't know, going in, what they're going to do that will live up to that expectation of enjoyment, nor do I count on anything specific. > if you leave a show disappointed, then is it not true that you > expected something different? and truthfully, do we as fans have > any right to be disappointed in much beyond the quality of the > performance? [1] no, it's not true. I'm disappointed that no one dropped $5 million on my desk this morning... not that I expected it to happen, but it would have been pretty cool. so I can see how someone can be disappointed that they didn't get to talk to the band members. > bottom line, folks: this is a newsgroup read by thousands of > people around the world. do not post anything that you don't > want to hear thousands of peoples' opinions on. and I didn't see anyone posting something they didn't want people's opinions on. Gella got opinions on things she didn't even say. > part of the reason you think you're being attacked when this > happens is the way that the responses just keep on coming. it's > not because people want to dogpile on you. it's because there well, I've looked back at the structure of this thread and the posts referred to by others and it's pretty clear that everyone knew about all the other messages posted before posting their own. - -- lawrence solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "And I don't know whether I believe in me, but I still believe in my friends." -The Nields ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 18:58:15 -0700 From: Taylor Nelson Subject: Re: I see dead people (was Ghosts of Fruvous Obsession) Ya know what...I didn't want to chime in on this...but my gawd people, give the damn thing a break! Don't we all have lives to get on with? Gella felt like this was important enough for her to post here. Okay, I'm cool with that...but did a whole bunch of other people have to flame the crap outta her? (Which now means you'll flame me, see if I give an F!) What happened to that whole 'nothing nice, say nothing at all' thing? Just get on with better things in life...go give some homeless person a dollar, go see your gran...she misses you. Don't piddle your time away getting angry. - -Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 03:03:18 GMT From: knile@themail.com (Neil Bardhan) Subject: Re: question (was ghosts of fruvous etc) On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:12:42 -0700, Maggie wrote: >this question is posed to the, for lack of a better word, >instigators of all this. there are two people i am thinking of >in particular, but there are also a few others i'm sure. > >do any of you even KNOW Gella? or Sally? at all? > >i thought not. Er, yeah. I have 3 videotapes of her singing. I've had countless meals with her. There's a spork in my room which was once hers. And she's hugged me more than once. Neil Neil Bardhan: neil@flipse.com | PGP user http://www.knile.dyn.dhs.org | Cinnamon Applesauce This sig best viewed with 2 closed eyes. If you need to, remove NOSPAM from my address. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:56:06 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: (Dinner Reservations) Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions Donna Hunt wrote: > "Chris K @*_*@" wrote: > > > Wait a minute, mister!!! Let me get this straight - I'm > > blowing off a dinner with Dave-O to have dinner with AJ. > > However chad is cancelling a dinner with Murray to have > > dinner with AJ and AJ is cancelling a dinner with Jian > > to have a dinner with which one of us? > > Dammit, chad! Stop being such a whore! You *know* we > were supposed to have dinner on the 3rd! Metrojet? Hello? The 3rd of October! Check your datebook, dear. > Damn You to Heck. Is that the best you can do? spuh, that's nothing. > Fine, blow me off. [1] I'll survive. Chrissy is strong... well, she has to hold up Jian. chad - -- chad at radix dot net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:14:34 EDT From: SugarFly26@aol.com Subject: Re: I see dead people (was Ghosts of Fruvous Obsession) Taylor kinda screamed: <> And if Gella felt that way I saw power to her. If there's something you don't want to read you can always delete it, so post away. (I do it all the time, not to be mean but there are some threads I'm just not interested in. And I know people delete mine if they aren't interested.) If it was something important to her, she should recognize that there is the possibility of things getting taken the wrong way and criticized and whatnot. I don't really know Gella, but I do enjoy reading her posts and I'm sorry this got out of hand. I do have to agree with a lot of Chad's long footnote-less post though. And as far as nothing nice say nothing, if you'll look at the posts, most were not intended to be mean, nor did they come across as mean. The ones that might have often stated this isn't to be mean, I'm just curious, or I don't mean to offend you, etc. <> You're the one yelling and criticizing. Heed your own advice. - ----------> Ln ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:00:40 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions Lori Martin wrote: >> Why are you specifically blowing *me* off? > > Because you're something new and special in this fast-growing > dining-out-with-someone-on-Sept.-3 fragment of The AMMF Community > (tm) (or non-community) (hey, I can never make up my mind). > You required a Special Mention, see? So help me, Lori, if you send me a "Welcome to AMMF" message. I just don't know what will happen. > Not to sniffle, darling. We'll do brunch! Ok... am I cooking? If so, get your menu (and kitchen!) prepared. :) I seem to be available, after consulting my datebook. ciao, donna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 03:39:11 GMT From: "Ken Perschke" Subject: Re: Falcon Ridge PICTURES! > So, go take a look... and if you like what you see, let me know :-) I haven't gone through everything yet, but it looks pretty good. I particularly like the shots from the Woody Guthrie workshop! And I keep going back to that one shot in the budgie dome (well, I am fairly prominent in that shot, being the only one standing and playing guitar). It all looks good! Anybody else still coming down from FRFF and two bottom line shows? That feeling still hasn't left me yet. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:52:33 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: OT:(Dinner Reservations) Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions chad schrock wrote: > > Dammit, chad! Stop being such a whore! You *know* we > > were supposed to have dinner on the 3rd! Metrojet? Hello? > > The 3rd of October! > > Check your datebook, dear. Oh! Right. Right. Sorry. Excuse me. Pardon me. Sorry. [I just want to see how many times I can call you a whore on the ng] And at least I know that only Lori is blowing me off now. > > Damn You to Heck. > > Is that the best you can do? spuh, that's nothing. Huh. Don't tempt me, schrock. I'm meaner than I look. Grrr. ciao, donna See you on 10/3/00! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 03:39:50 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Midwestern Shows? John Kelly wrote: > The Canadian > thing is not to be underestimated. Those people are like the mafia. It's > like a secret club. If you're Canadian, you are privvy to more sensitive > information than the imperialist yanks are. Are you kidding? The Canadians are usually the LAST to know anything! They don't even get their Quills until they are a month out of date. If you want someone in the know look for someone from Rochester or Boston. A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | ICQ: 13117113 \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com AIM: locicero ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #332 ********************************************