From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #323 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, August 1 2000 Volume 04 : Number 323 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions [SugarFly26@aol.com] Re: Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions [loren becker ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:04:06 EDT From: SugarFly26@aol.com Subject: Re: Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions eep...Well, I have never met Jian. Or Murray, Dave, or Mike. So I personally can't really toss an opinion out here. (God knows I do it enough on everything else!) But Gella, as far as missing them insanely and stuff..Could you just be feeling emotional lately? When I've gone to see them (more my second time seeing them than my first) I left feeling like Oh my God, that was awesome. Oh my God, who knows when I'll see them again. And not really being *depressed* about it exactly, but like kinda sad and like nothing could really compare to that experience for awhile especially since I waited for it for so long, and just like things that would normal make me excited didn't for awhile, til the concert sadness wore off and it went back to being an awesome experience. And that was just how I felt never having even met them, and you have met them. Also when you see people a lot (like friends and stuff) you tend to either A) Notice every little thing that changes, or B) not notice at all unless it's a really drastic change. Maybe you're noticing every little thing that changes, such as a possible change in the way Jian acts to you? I'm not really explaining this very well. Okay..like take that second concert I went to. December 3, 1999. It was one of the concerts that the guys didn't cancel even though they were sick or starting to be sick. I got home and stuff, and people were talking on the newsgroup about how they weren't feeling too great and it showed. I, meanwhile, was like they were sick? I didn't pick up on that during the concert at all, except that Dave was a lot quieter than the concert I had gone to the previous year. And I guess I didn't pick up on it because I hadn't seen them in awhile and had nothing to compare it to. But you do see them often, and thereby have other incidents to compare with the current encounters. Wow, I'm going way psychological with this. I don't even know if it made sense. Nevermind. I'll shut up now. - --------------> Ln ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:24:24 -0400 From: loren becker Subject: Re: Ghosts of Fruvous; obsessions fruvy wrote: > Jian's a friend of mine. And like any friend, I was only hoping for a warm > goodbye and my posting was not out of frustration, but just to show some minor > sympathy. Nuff said? Like Chad, I ask this out of curiosity and don't mean it as a personal affront to your relationship with Jian (especially since I have no clue what that might be, hence the question). In fact, consider this inquiry directed at the general public, not just at Sally, because I'm curious about people's thoughts on this. When you say Jian (or any other band member) is a friend of yours, what does that mean? Do you hang out with him when he's not on the clock, so to speak? Does he confide in you? (Insert similar questions here.) Where is the line between fan and friend? I ask this because a lot of people think of members of the band as their friends. We, as fans, expect a lot from them. We also get a lot from them. But in truth, they have no responsibility to any of us no matter what we expect. The amount of attention the fans get is entirely up to the band, not any obligation. Enough from me. I'm exhausted and perhaps I'm just missing the point. /l ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ o/~ I'm looking for one thing real tonight. o/~ - -- Dan Bern ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #323 ********************************************