From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #309 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, July 26 2000 Volume 04 : Number 309 Today's Subjects: ----------------- oops... "7-25-" should read "7-25 Setlist and ravings" [monatwell@aol.com] Re: general favorite song quotes [Cameron Ross ] Re: Top 5 Fruvous Songs [fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack)] 7-25- [monatwell@aol.com (Monatwell)] Re: What Phrase (Was: Top 5 Fruvous Songs) [fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara K] Re: Top 5 Fruvous Songs [fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack)] Bottom Line - 7/25/2000 [dead@thwip.polyamory.org, from@thwip.polyamory.o] Re: favorite phrase [kyla ] Re: favorite phrase [kyla ] quick additions to Bottom Line 7/25 [Jason A Hare ] Re: What Phrase (Was: Top 5 Fruvous Songs) [LilacGirl1002@aol.com] Free ticket for tonight ["Mimi" ] Styleens Info [cricket5@hotmail.com] Re: FRFF afterthoughts ["Daancing Queen" ] BUMrock Reader's Choice 7/23/00 [Dan Goodspeed ] Bottom Line - 7/25/2000 [Lynne ] Re: What Phrase ["Tracey Kast" ] Re: What Phrase [Josh Harriman ] Re: What Phrase (Was: Top 5 Fruvous Songs) [CintiBud ] Favorite Frusongs ["Carolyn Wember" ] Re: What Phrase [Kaitlyn.S.Chantry@Dartmouth.EDU (Kaitlyn S. Chantry)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Jul 2000 05:23:51 GMT From: monatwell@aol.com (Monatwell) Subject: oops... "7-25-" should read "7-25 Setlist and ravings" I hate my computer sending things too early. ANYWAY, bedtime. - --michelle :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:04:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Cameron Ross Subject: Re: general favorite song quotes > ben lee: you've gotta burn to shine I don't usually point out little flaws like this, but.... it's ben harper! so I gotta correct it, cause he's good :) Life101 - Quote under construction - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:27:20 GMT From: fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack) Subject: Re: Top 5 Fruvous Songs spychicr@aol.compoot (RAI-- Random Access Insanity) mentioned in her post of now: > Top FIVE Früvous songs? I have to choose? Fert... > Well... > Okay... But all the songs are equal in my mind. These ones just > happen to be a >little more equal. ::nods:: > --Well, those are my top five TODAY... Some days there'll be more pop > songs... >those just happen to be my slow favourites. > Makes your new acronym for your name all the more appropriate!! :) Now back to giving Splatter Splatter a new meaning for mosquitos... - -- Cara Kozack It's a reference to a _____ that you've never even heard of by\in\on a _____ that you probably don't even like! fruomffan@diganet.com www.crosswinds.net/~fruomffan ICQ: 56416421 ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jul 2000 05:22:28 GMT From: monatwell@aol.com (Monatwell) Subject: 7-25- Woohoo! Not only was tonight my frist ever Fruvous show, I might as well make it my first real post as well... so here's the setlist from tonight's show at the Bottom Line in NYC. (as scribbled illegibly on my napkin...): Down From Above Horseshoes - -talk about the "big apple" and how in the musical Evita they call Buenos Aires the big apple... also how tonight will be a "protracted" show ("Protracted means longer!") Splatter Splatter Lazy Boy Kick in the Ass - -talk about how in 10 years all phones will be cell phones, or something like that Sad Girl - -Dave alone on piano singing a Bob Dylan song (someone know what it's called?) Independence Day Heatseeker Boy Pisco - -Jian alone on piano singing a song he wrote called Natalia BJ Boo Time - -call up audience member, who they named Silhouette but was actually naed Carolyn, she picked names and insturments out of a hat and then they improvised a waltz about Penicillin Ash Hash - -Murray alone on guitar, Love Set Fire Michigan Militia Present Tense Tureen Saucepan Guinea Pig - -Mike alone on piano, another Dylan song MBLOBOA Get in the Car Psycho Killer - ------- Disco Bargainville - ------ IOYK The show was INCREDIBLE and I'm so glad I got to be there (i'm underage so i had to talk my dad into taking me-- now he's saying he might even be willing to go again tomorrrow! Fruconversion, woohoo!) So that's my story. a very happy fruhead, Michelle :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:55:14 GMT From: fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack) Subject: Re: What Phrase (Was: Top 5 Fruvous Songs) frugalmagNOfrSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid (Maggie) wrote in <284fc400.01b903bf@usw-ex0102-015.remarq.com>: >this is so incredibly difficult... > >my senior quote was "i start out straight but i get to >meander/i've got the aim but i don't have the range," though i >considered buying a page in the yearbook and quoting all of >MPG. > >others include anything from Misplaced, On Her Doorstep, Love >Set Fire, Independence Day, The Drinking Song, Bittersweet, >Fly... basically everything any of these guys ever scrawled on >a napkin in a bar late at night... > >however this leads me to start another thread... favorite song >quotes from *anyone* not simply früvous? > >~Maggie~ who has no clue what that "fr˙...." thing is that >continually gets added to her ng messages... Easy, from Captain Tractor's song Sounds Strange "You say that you don't like me, well that's the way I am Say that you cant love me, can't take me as I am Say that you can't hear me I'm being loud as I can Well honey if I sound strange its just because I am" From BNL's Enid "I could do it all for you, But I don't want to" And from TMBG's Why Does the Sun Shine "The Sun is a mass of incandesance gas A gigantic nuclear furnace Where hydrogen is built into heluim At a temperature millions of degress" What can I say? I'm a sucker for songs about ditching someone and science!! Not nessecarily together though.... - -- Cara Kozack It's a reference to a _____ that you've never even heard of by\in\on a _____ that you probably don't even like! fruomffan@diganet.com www.crosswinds.net/~fruomffan ICQ: 56416421 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:43:40 GMT From: fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack) Subject: Re: Top 5 Fruvous Songs spychicr@aol.compoot (RAI-- Random Access Insanity) imagined in this message: > My favourite Früvous phrase (heh... try to say that five times > fast).... hm... >I'd have to say... "The helicopters whirred." It just paints a gorgeous >picture.... And I'm not talking colour by number here. Hey cool! Frusongs as paintings!! I can see If Only You Knew as this wonderful panoramic painting. On the left you would have an inconspicious town draped in a light fog with sunbeams shining through spreading across the horizon, right at the edge of the city...a van speeding along the hiway with a fogged windshield. The landscape along the hiway would spread across the centre of the painting, with trees on either side. The trees would be showing the seasons in the order of spring, fall, summer, winter, spring. The hiway would fade off and at the rihgt centre a stream that runs up the painting, on the right, up the stream a bit just so its in view of the hiway, a house, with several trees, a tree swing, and of course the garden. On the left side a person laying on the grass gazing at the red and gold sinking behind the green mountains\hills. On the right there is a smaller town street, a fiddle player sitting on the corner with his case in front. There is a path leading up the hills with a couple in wedding outfits dancing, and up the path further is a little shack with an old man sitting in a chair looking like he is conducting. - -- Cara Kozack It's a reference to a _____ that you've never even heard of by\in\on a _____ that you probably don't even like! fruomffan@diganet.com www.crosswinds.net/~fruomffan ICQ: 56416421 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:40:26 GMT From: dead@thwip.polyamory.org, from@thwip.polyamory.org, the@thwip.polyamory.org, neck@thwip.polyamory.org, up@home.com (DeadHead) Subject: Bottom Line - 7/25/2000 Howdy all! Sara and I (Robin) just got home from Tuesday's Bottom Line show and it was GREAT! We had such fun - after navigating into NYC with a terrific map (printed out by my sweetie, Tim) & no NY driving know-how! The lads came on at 8:45 and here's a quick rundown of the evening: - - Down From Above - - Horseshoes (some monitor banter - Big Apple banter & talk of a protracted set, the need to pace themselves - the worst show they ever did was at Bottom Line in 1994 when they opened for Peter H.) - - Splatter, Splatter (banter about the 2 or 3 best shows they ever did were also at Bottom Line!) - - Lazy Boy - - Kick In The Ass - - Sad Girl (done on a piano, not electric keys - it was so pretty) - - Like Every Grain of Sand (a Dylan ? tune done solo by Dave on piano) - - Independence Day - - Heatseeker Boy - - Pisco Bandito - - a few bars of Welcome to C by Jian on piano into a tune he said he'd finished writing at Bottom Line - - - Natalia (Jian's tune - also solo on piano) - - BJ - - BooTime (here they ask for a volunteeer from the audience & Carolyn is chosen. there are 2 hats to choose from: 1 hat = band members; the other = which instrument they'll play! the results: Mike = Accordian Jian = Bass Murray = Electric Dave = Drums & Percussion they pass the mics around, deciding on the Key of A - The Canadian Key! and play a little ditty 'I found penecillin in my bread . . .then decide to play some 'Stones': Jumpin' Jack Flash, well part of it! it was great fun :) - - Ash Hash - - Love Set Fire (Murray - solo) - - Michigan Militia - - Present Tense Tureen - - Johnny Saucep'n - - Guinea Pig - - Lenny Bruce (Dylan tune?) (Mike solo on piano) - - My Baby Loves A Bunch of Authors - - Get in the Car - - Psycho and exit 1st encore: - - Space the final frontier . . .they're all really good friends . . . Three Stooges type . . . - - Disco Video Bargainville and exit 2nd encore: - - Mike tells how much his wife and step-daughter like to come to the NY shows, but couldn't this time, so this was for them - - - If Only You Knew So there it is folks. Please feel free to add all the wonderful banter that I've left out (it is after all 1:30 a.m. and I have jury duty in the morning!). I truly look forward to tomorrow night's show. Good nite all. Robin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:22:16 -0700 (PDT) From: kyla Subject: Re: favorite phrase Most recently: the last time Dave says " ===== Science has yet to prove the existence of randomness. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:23:47 -0700 (PDT) From: kyla Subject: Re: favorite phrase Most recently: the last time Dave says "I don't love you that much" in Hate Letter. Before that, "That's where the beach was, that's where the sea...." in GWS. - --Kyla ===== Science has yet to prove the existence of randomness. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:11:59 -0400 From: Jason A Hare Subject: quick additions to Bottom Line 7/25 The song that Dave played solo is called "Every Grain of Sand." Yes, it's by Bob Dylan and it's amazing. I hate Bob Dylan's voice, so it's so frustrating that I just happen to love all of his lyrics. Anyway, you can find the lyrics at: http://orad.dent.kyushu-u.ac.jp/dylan/everygrain.html Mike's solo choice was "Lenny Bruce," also by Dylan. http://orad.dent.kyushu-u.ac.jp/dylan/lennybruce.html Jian's choice, his new song called "Natalia," was beautiful. I actually found it very endearing that he was so nervous to play it- especially because he said he had never played it before really, and even the guys hadn't heard it. It was fantastic, and it would be quite cool of Jian if he perhaps went with the wave of the future (like cell phones, heh heh heh) and uploaded an mp3 of it onto the website. The show was really great, and quite a treat for me. I've been to about 15-20 Fru shows but hadn't heard a lot of these songs before live. I have to say that opening with two slow songs (Down From Above, Horseshoes) was kind of a downer. Both great songs, but the crowd was itching for something uptempo. I understood that they were pacing themselves for the long night ahead and such, and I also understand that the Bottom Line commands a different kind of show since nobody stands up. Still... If anybody taped last night's show, please contact me? I would really love to have Dave's version of Every Grain of Sand- it was so beautiful and really spoke to me, as did Jian's choice. I have a bunch of stuff to trade, Fru, BNL and otherwise. Back to lurking! ;-) jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:05:22 EDT From: LilacGirl1002@aol.com Subject: Re: What Phrase (Was: Top 5 Fruvous Songs) My favorite lyrics non-Fru "Call it impulsive, call it compulsive, call it insane, but when I'm surrounded I just can't stop." "Brian Wilson" BNL "I'm a liar, believe me baby." "All That You Are" Econoline Crush "When I speak I cross my fingers, will you know you've been deceived. I find the need to be a demon, a demon cannot be hurt." "Demons" Guster "Alison, I know this world is killing you, oh Alison, my aim is true." "Alison" Elvis Costello I promise I will try to stop. Betsy, I'll be better when I'm older... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:08:36 -0700 From: "Mimi" Subject: Free ticket for tonight My friend can't make it, so I have an extra ticket to tonight's show and it is free to anyone who wants it. Please e-mail me directly, I'll be around until about noon. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:52:53 GMT From: cricket5@hotmail.com Subject: Styleens Info A couple people have asked me about the show, so I figured this would be the best place to tell you. Saturday, July 29, 2000 Styleen's Rhythm Palace 314 S. Franklin St. Syracuse, NY 315-472-2665 Tickets $15 Showtime 10pm You can get tickets online at tickets.com or at 1-888-223-6000. See you there! Mary Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:43:19 EDT From: "Daancing Queen" Subject: Re: FRFF afterthoughts >Also during the Guthrie workshop, the lads did a Canadian-specific chorus >of "This Land is Your Land." (Did anybody get the words? I was not quick >enough.) What a bizarre world to think that people didn't grow up singing both versions (and of course always combining the two unintentionally for a mixed up version of North American geography!). This is what happens when you are brought up on folk music.... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:49:12 GMT From: Dan Goodspeed Subject: BUMrock Reader's Choice 7/23/00 - -- to sign up for BUMrock free, go to http://www.bumrock.com/members/ -- what's shakin everyone? damn it's gettin harder by the week to keep my greeting original from weeks past and still of few clicks to the left of geeky. By the way, any one know how far a click is? It's been bothering me for months and even Jeeves doesn't fuckin know. Any way. I try to use this space to tell a quick story /random thoughts that happened this past week. Last Friday, the Elliot Smith and Marah played a free show in Albany. I really like this big events of lesser known bands... I felt like a socialite walkin around talkin to dozens of people in the local music scene (whether it be musicians or fans) that i knew. one older dude who goes to every Empire State Plaza show to dance around and have a good time in his drunken homeless self wasn't quite as mobile this time around. He was passed out front row on the nice solid cement. took about 20 minutes for ambulance to get there and give him a stretcher ride. The promoter got on stage and pointin down on the poor bastard, made an example by saying "this is not how to have a good time". guess i'd have to agree. well... three new very different-from-each-other songs find their way onto reader's choice this week. "Mad Dog"- my favorite of the bunch. Elastica is back w/ some cool sound effects and a rockin cool tune. "Broken Home"- Papa Roach's second single... about growing up in a divorced family with lotsa issues with your father. i wonder if Art Alexikas co-wrote this? "Dreaming"- Best way to describe this BT song- ethereal and repetitive. so go vote on next week's chart... hurry! websites are very impatient! - ------------------------------------ Reader's Choice http://www.bumrock.com/rc/ - ------------------------------------ 1) Tonight And The Rest Of My Life- Nina Gordon (56.36) 2) Sparks Are Gonna Fly- Catherine Wheel (33.91) 3) Barrytown- Ben Folds Five (32.83) 4) Change- Deftones (30.92) 5) Out Of This World- The Cure (28.54) 6) Happier- Guster (27.49) 7) Mayan Pilot- Splashdown (22.9) 8) Eliot- Sarah Slean (21.58) 9) Porcelain- Moby (17.38) 10) Radio Whore- Orbit (16.54) Screaming "Let Me In!" - ---------------------- Godless- Dandy Warhols Dinosaurs Will Die- NOFX Stellar- Incubus Goodnight Moon- Shivaree How Soon Is Now- Snake River Conspiracy Now That I Am Blind- Deathray Soul Catcher- The The Boyz In The Hood- Dynamite Hack My Music At Work- Tragically Hip Just Like Fred Astaire- James Mad Dog- Elastica Broken Home- Papa Roach Dreaming- BT Warm Machine- Bush Loser- 3 Doors Down Pumping On Your Stereo- Supergrass Simple Kind Of Life- No Doubt Vulcan- Snake River Conspiracy Automatic- Collapsis *** AND DON'T FORGET TO VOTE FOR NEXT WEEK'S SONGS!!! *** http://www.bumrock.com/rc/vote.html rock on! - -dan goodspeed Editor of BUMrock editor@bumrock.com http://www.bumrock.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:18:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Lynne Subject: Bottom Line - 7/25/2000 my 2 cents: Last nights show was wonderfully unique! Solo's from each band member, the piano, the level of energy...how nervous Jian was about playing his new song... the new song, natalia, very sappy..; I love sappy!! - -Lynne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:06:36 EDT From: "Tracey Kast" Subject: Re: What Phrase Hey All, I am just delurking to say that, although I like reading the "Top 5 songs," I really am enjoying reading everyone's Top Phrases. Somes phrases are just so sublime. The power of some phrases comes from the way they sit inside a song, coming at the right moment, perfectly summing up a feeling, idea, or image. Melanie's suggestion of "Me down on my knees with liquid eyes begging please." I think is a perfect example of this. Of course, there are countless others. Other phrases seem to get much of their power when they are separated from the song. Ellen's suggestion of ""we'll be free, or we'll be dead" is a good example of that. As for me, just off the top of my head, I have to agree with Melanie that "Me down on my knees with liquid eyes begging please" is one that I always look forward to hearing, and I also like "He had such a temper, guess who's got it now" Kudos to whomever started the thread. Tracey ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:33:35 -0400 From: Josh Harriman Subject: Re: What Phrase Fruheads - I'll chime in here because I think that one of my favorite songs hasn't gotten enough attention recently. That song is, of course, Sad Today. I think that it has some of the best lyrics, and would love for them to play it more often. I especially like the opening: Sad today Sad today Even coffee can't make it go away ... All for now, - --Josh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:27:29 -0700 From: CintiBud Subject: Re: What Phrase (Was: Top 5 Fruvous Songs) "I ain't missed a day of work in two whole weeks now, I didn't drink last night. Looked at your picture and shed just one tear before I turned out the light..." Paul Thorn - I have a good day every now and then - ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:59:47 -0500 From: Super Dave Subject: Re: What Phrase On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 LilacGirl1002@aol.com wrote: >My favorite lyrics non-Fru >"When I speak I cross my fingers, will you know you've been deceived. I find >the need to be a demon, a demon cannot be hurt." "Demons" Guster God, I love Guster. So incredible. A few of my favorite lines: You're the magic that holds the sky up from the ground. You're breath that blows these cool winds around. Trade places with an angel now. (from "Magic") --Ben Folds Five (written by Darren Jesse) In the cathedrals of New York and Rome There is a feeling that you should just go home And spend your lifetime finding out just where that is (from "Cathedrals") --Jump, Little Children David - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We must love each other or die." --W. H. Auden "When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." --Mahatma Gandhi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:14:25 -0400 From: "Carolyn Wember" Subject: Favorite Frusongs 1. Big Fish 2. River Valley 3. Fly 4. Horseshoes 5. Kids Song Favorite line (well, 3 lines): "Hold on tight. Let's get it just right. We'll take our last flight, you and I." - --Carolyn (still in heaven from last night's Bottom Line show) _______________________________________________________ This information may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is only transmitted for the intended recipient. Any review, retransmission, conversion to hard copy, copying, reproduction, circulation, publication, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action, or omission to take action, in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer, disk drive, diskette, or other storage device or media. A list of partners at each office can be provided on request. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jul 2000 13:10:02 EDT From: Kaitlyn.S.Chantry@Dartmouth.EDU (Kaitlyn S. Chantry) Subject: Re: What Phrase - --- Super Dave wrote: In the cathedrals of New York and Rome There is a feeling that you should just go home And spend your lifetime finding out just where that is (from "Cathedrals") --Jump, Little Children - --- end of quote --- Great one...! Favorite non-fru lines: "You can read all about it About boy meets girl and then screws the whole thing up Just like always" Caedmon's Call, "Daring Daylight Escape" "You, I thought I knew you You I cannot judge You, I thought you knew me This one laughing quietly underneath my breath" R.E.M., "Nightswimming" "Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true." Billy Joel, "Vienna" "But I can't confront the doubts I have I can't admit that maybe the past was bad And so, for the sake of momentum I'm condemning the future to death so it can match the past" Aimee Mann, "Momentum" ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #309 ********************************************