From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #272 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, June 25 2000 Volume 04 : Number 272 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Dragoncon [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: O/T: Rimmer's better ( was RE: House Concert auction show 6/4) [leab] Re: OT: music recommendation [Shilfiell ] Re: <(©¿©)> So They Don't Want To Tell us, Huh? [Slipper Frog So They Don't Want To Tell us, Huh? [P] Re: French translations (was: Re: O/T: Rimmer's Better) [trace@fruhead.c] Re:Clearwater, day 1 [Frances Fox ] Re: French translations (was: Re: O/T: Rimmer's Better) [Robin Kent >Life is like a box of chocolates... unless the box has one of those map >>things >>in it so you know which ones are caramel and which aren't. > >Where did you get that??? My friend Tanya said it... she's a wealth of little things like that :) - -Bender - ---------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates... unless the box has one of those map things in it so you know which ones are caramel and which aren't. - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:05:57 GMT From: Shilfiell Subject: Re: OT: music recommendation In article <36a49ca1.6f008cce@usw-ex0106-046.remarq.com>, Ellen wrote: > Sonia Dada's live album (Lay Down and Love it Live) is the best > thing I have found since ... ummm... I won't say it. I've been > telling anyone who would listen to go buy this album simply > because I can't imagine anyone not liking it. I'm sure it's not > for everyone, but I just can't imagine anyone who likes *music* > not getting into the joy that is this album. It's like energy, > distilled into a little plastic case. > > I haven't bought any of their studio stuff yet (in part because I > can't seem to get LD&LIL out of my CD player long enough to play > anything else). But I'm hopin' and prayin' for a SD show in the > DC area sometime soon. I WILL be there. If you DO pick up a studio album, get the debut CD! It's one of the most consistently delightful CDs I own, with no weak tracks and several standouts. The vocals are amazing! I've almost played my copy to tatters over the years, and it was one of the first recordings I owned in CD format. By all means, too, get to a live show if you have a chance: I last saw them here in Rochester years ago, and they were awesome. - -kimberly > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:20:41 GMT From: Slipper Frog Subject: Re: <(©¿©)> So They Don't Want To Tell us, Huh? You know, if you're going to spam, why bother if you're going to leave your headers intact? Your ISP has been contacted regarding this matter. In article <200005231905.PAA07365@yogi.masie.com>, jventura@gnwmail.com wrote: > Path: > news1.alsv1.occa.home.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!newshub1.home.com!ne > ws.home.com!pln-w!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news. > maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!not-for-mail > Delivered-To: ammf@sneaker.net > From: jventura@gnwmail.com > Message-ID: <200005231905.PAA07365@yogi.masie.com> > Subject: <(©¿©)> So They Don't Want To Tell us, Huh? > Return-Path: > Sender: owner-ammf@smoe.org > Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous > X-Posted-By: ammf.perl 2.00 > Lines: 212 > Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:05:02 -0400 (EDT) > NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.28.85.50 > X-Complaints-To: abuse@shore.net > X-Trace: news.shore.net 959108951 64.28.85.50 (Tue, 23 May 2000 15:09:11 > EDT) > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:09:11 EDT > Organization: Shore.Net, a PRIMUS Company (info@shore.net) > Xref: newshub1.home.com alt.music.moxy-fruvous:30040349 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:42:59 -0400 From: Lori Martin Subject: French translations (was: Re: O/T: Rimmer's Better) Robin Kent said: > Hey, so this is what it means: I touch the shark in the mechanical turbine at the > aquarium, immense moment of [frission isn't actually a word but what I think he > meant was frisson which translates to...] Nope, Mike didn't translate it at all. the magnet says frisson; in transcribing it someone put in the extra 'i'. furthermore, according to my refrigerator it is the aquarium that is immense, not the moment. :) > shivers soft and rediculous. "doux" also can mean "sweet", in the "iddn't dat sweet" sense, which is how I like to think of it. But only Fordy would know for sure what he meant. > If this still doesn't make sense to you that's probably cause it doesn't make sense > to most people (well, except maybe Mike) heh. It makes PERFECT sense to me, and to Lawrence as well. Mike apparently psychically referenced a conversation we had at the Vault 2 nights before the house party, about how you *CAN'T* pet the sharks at the National Aquarium in Baltimore. Other than that, it's a really cool place. But if you want to pet sharks, you have to go to the NJ State Aquarium in Camden. Which is a town I ordinarily avoid. Or, you could go to Boothbay Harbor ME and check out the cute little aquarium there. But that's a bit far to go for shark-petting ... even in the car. :) - -- Lori Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html photos now up at the Ravine: Utica, Spring Gulch, Falcon Ridge, SoNo, and Annapolis. more coming soon! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:12:06 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Re: <(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=A9=BF=A9?=)> So They Don't Want To Tell us, Huh? Hey Idiot: This is EXACTLY what Ofer Inbar (a.m.m-f gateway maintainer) was talking about!!! PLEASE do not repot spam posted through the gateway to shore.net. YOu'll only get the gateway killed and leave A LOT of Fruheads w/o access to a.m.m-f - -Paul Mischler From: Ofer Inbar 6/12/00 11:07 PM Subject: spam complaints to shore.net may cause ammf gateway shutoff Sometimes people post spam to ammf via the gateway, by mailing it to ammf@fruvous.com. I subscribe to the RBL and RSS so known spammers listed in either of those won't get through, but of course the majority of spam comes from yet-unlisted sources. If someone sends a spam complaint to me about spam that came through the gateway, I have the ability to block anything coming from that address to get posted in the future. However, recently people have been complaining to shore.net, because the gateway is using their news server to post. They have no control over how the gateway acts, so their only recourse if they keep getting spam complaints is to cut off my access. I've asked them to just forward spam complaints to me so that I can deal with the complaints, but they refuse to do so. If they continue to get spam complaints, they will shut off my access, and there's really nothing at all I can do about it. I can cut off particular spammers if they are reported to me, but I can't easily cut off all spam without severely restricting people's ability to post via the gateway. A large portion of legitimate gateway posts come from addresses that are *not* subscribed to the mailing list on the news->mail side of the gateway, so if I went through the contortions necessary to restrict gateway posting only to subscribers (the mailing list and list processor are on a totally different server which I don't even have root on), it would be a hindrance to many people who use the gateway today. Now the thing that puzzles me is, why are people complaining to Shore about spam on ammf? If someone sends in spam through the gateway, that spam is only posted to ammf and not to any other newsgroups, so whoever is complaining must be an ammf reader. I was under the impression that ammf readers are in general aware of and supportive of the gateway. If you see a spam with the gateway's information in its headers, but complain to Shore instead of to me, you jeopardize the gateway's access to news, while I remain unaware of the complaint (and Shore won't even let me see it after they tell me they got a complaint and I ask to see it) and unable to put a reject for that spam in the gateway. Are the people who have been sending complaints to shore.net about spam on ammf reading this message? If so, *please* get in touch with me before the gateway is forced to wander in search of news servers yet again. Slipper Frog wrote: > You know, if you're going to spam, why bother if you're going to leave > your headers intact? Your ISP has been contacted regarding this matter. > > In article <200005231905.PAA07365@yogi.masie.com>, jventura@gnwmail.com > wrote: > > > Path: > > news1.alsv1.occa.home.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!newshub1.home.com!ne > > ws.home.com!pln-w!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news. > > maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!not-for-mail > > Delivered-To: ammf@sneaker.net > > From: jventura@gnwmail.com > > Message-ID: <200005231905.PAA07365@yogi.masie.com> > > Subject: <(©¿©)> So They Don't Want To Tell us, Huh? > > Return-Path: > > Sender: owner-ammf@smoe.org > > Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous > > X-Posted-By: ammf.perl 2.00 > > Lines: 212 > > Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:05:02 -0400 (EDT) > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.28.85.50 > > X-Complaints-To: abuse@shore.net > > X-Trace: news.shore.net 959108951 64.28.85.50 (Tue, 23 May 2000 15:09:11 > > EDT) > > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:09:11 EDT > > Organization: Shore.Net, a PRIMUS Company (info@shore.net) > > Xref: newshub1.home.com alt.music.moxy-fruvous:30040349 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:16:34 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: French translations (was: Re: O/T: Rimmer's Better) Ok, I'm now officially amused. Mike Ford's refrigerator poetry is being interpreted around here. LOL! Also amusing is how this thread has suddenly spun ON TOPIC. What's up with THAT? Hell must be freezing over... Trace - Content is apocryphal, atopical, and could be hazardous to your health. If you don't understand me, join the club. I'm not just a member, I'm the president... ok, crawling under my little rock again. On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:42:59 -0400, The Glitter Fairy wrote: >Robin Kent said: > >> Hey, so this is what it means: I touch the shark in the >mechanical turbine at the >> aquarium, immense moment of [frission isn't actually a word but >what I think he >> meant was frisson which translates to...] > >Nope, Mike didn't translate it at all. the magnet says frisson; >in transcribing it someone put in the extra 'i'. > >furthermore, according to my refrigerator it is the aquarium that >is immense, not the moment. :) > >> shivers soft and rediculous. > >"doux" also can mean "sweet", in the "iddn't dat sweet" sense, >which is how I like to think of it. But only Fordy would know >for sure what he meant. > - -- Trace trace at fruhead dot com Maybe we're just looking at a funhouse mirror and loving our reflections ~MPG~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 22:10:46 +0100 From: Frances Fox Subject: Re:Clearwater, day 1 Gordon wrote: >OK did anyone see Whirligig instead of Vance Gilbert? They are so amazing. How could anyone miss Vance Gilbert????? Frances, who is also in love with dave Mclusky 'cos of his knack of bringing songs alive, in a 3D kinda way! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 22:53:34 GMT From: Robin Kent Subject: Re: French translations (was: Re: O/T: Rimmer's Better) Okay sorry for implying that Mike translated it wrong or whatever I really should have said that as far as I know frission isn't a word and I'm glad to know that I guessed right and it really was frisson. Yes, you are (of course) right about the other possible meaning of doux and you having actually been involved in the conversation would be much better able to pick which one you think fits. I should also perhaps have said that for those of us who were not in on the conversation/at that concert/at the house concert it doesn't make a whole lot of sense (although some) but I'm glad to know that it does to someone people. I think that you can also pet the sharks at the aquarium in Boston and probably several other places. I know that there and in San Francisco you can also pet stingrays and other neat ocean creatures. Unfortunately all of these places are quite a lengthy drive for us Ontarians and there really is no where comparable up here.\ - -Robin :) Lori Martin wrote: > Robin Kent said: > > > Hey, so this is what it means: I touch the shark in the > mechanical turbine at the > > aquarium, immense moment of [frission isn't actually a word but > what I think he > > meant was frisson which translates to...] > > Nope, Mike didn't translate it at all. the magnet says frisson; > in transcribing it someone put in the extra 'i'. > > furthermore, according to my refrigerator it is the aquarium that > is immense, not the moment. :) > > > shivers soft and rediculous. > > "doux" also can mean "sweet", in the "iddn't dat sweet" sense, > which is how I like to think of it. But only Fordy would know > for sure what he meant. > > > If this still doesn't make sense to you that's probably cause > it doesn't make sense > > to most people (well, except maybe Mike) > > heh. It makes PERFECT sense to me, and to Lawrence as well. > Mike apparently psychically referenced a conversation we had at > the Vault 2 nights before the house party, about how you *CAN'T* > pet the sharks at the National Aquarium in Baltimore. > > Other than that, it's a really cool place. But if you want to > pet sharks, you have to go to the NJ State Aquarium in Camden. > Which is a town I ordinarily avoid. > > Or, you could go to Boothbay Harbor ME and check out the cute > little aquarium there. But that's a bit far to go for > shark-petting ... even in the car. :) > > -- > Lori > Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html > photos now up at the Ravine: Utica, Spring Gulch, Falcon Ridge, > SoNo, and Annapolis. more coming soon! ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 2000 23:36:12 GMT From: leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender) Subject: Re: French translations (was: Re: O/T: Rimmer's Better) >But if you want to >pet sharks, you have to go to the NJ State Aquarium in Camden. >Which is a town I ordinarily avoid. > Hehe, I don't blame anyone for avoiding Camden, but yes. The dog sharks are very cool. A skate was trying to eat my hand... felt like my hand was being rubbed by fine sandpaper. Very odd. - -Bender - ---------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates... unless the box has one of those map things in it so you know which ones are caramel and which aren't. - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 2000 00:18:50 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re:Clearwater, day 1 >How could anyone miss Vance Gilbert????? >Frances, who is also in love with dave Mclusky 'cos of his knack of >bringing songs alive, in a 3D kinda way! Et tu Frances? Once again if you want to hear amazing musicians checkout Whirligig. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 02:06:15 +0200 From: creditfix@iname.ru Subject: Fix Credit Problems!!! THIS OFFER FOR US RESIDENTS ONLY! WE CANNOT OFFER CREDIT REPAIR OUTSIDE THE US! Past Credit Problems? Well You Are NOT Alone! Now is the time to clean Up that bad credit. Don't Let Bad Credit ruin your life! FINALLY...... 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We apologize if this message has reach you in error. ********************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 2000 02:36:35 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: Re: French translations (was: Re: O/T: Rimmer's Better) >the magnet says frisson; >in transcribing it someone put in the extra 'i'. I aoplogize for that. The correction has been made and will hopefully be evident at the end of this post. :) je touche le requin dans le tourbillon mechanique au l'aquarium immense moment de frisson doux et ridicule - -Mike Ford (hehe) Gella ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #272 ********************************************