From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #184 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, April 14 2000 Volume 04 : Number 184 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Way OT: Gluey hands [spychicr@aol.compoot (Rai-Marie)] Fruvous Premium on the Wfuv fund Drive. [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: Moral Dilemmas [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: Appel Farm Festival Line Up [Amanda Murphy ] Black Swamp 2000 [Lynne Fisher ] Re: Way OT: Gluey hands [kyla ] Re: Tory Cassis ["Kris DeHond" ] RE: Mays Landing 4/20 [shellyus@aol.comnojunk (Shelly S)] Appel Farm - Car Pool [Milo Bloom ] Re: My name is Joe, and I ,, Am,,, Canadian ["Sigrid, the only FruSmurf" ] fruvous at the tmbg show last night [tmbgirl@my-deja.com] Re: Way OT: Gluey hands [neil@nospam.flipse.com (Neil Bardhan)] digesting a digest ... (Vol 4 #183) [Lori Martin > ::begins to raise her hand, realises it's covered with Elmer's glue:: --Rai --Glue-y fingers are fun. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Rai is also known as the CANADIAN POSER! Fighter for liberty, justice, and the right to use a "u" in the word colour. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 2000 02:11:13 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Fruvous Premium on the Wfuv fund Drive. The Wfuv fund raiser in New York City is down to its last few days. Tomorrow is the last Weekday to make a pledge. I was volunteering on the phones today and was told that tomorrow there will be a fruvous premium, VIP seats for the Irving Plaza show. Wfuv is 90.7 FM. Listent tomorrow for them to announce it. I don't know how large a contribution it will take. I will be there answering phones. I took one contribution from a Fruhead this Week. I'll like to than Richard Summa for supporting Fuv and Public Radio. Richard included they're playing fruvous in his reasons for contributing. Those things really help. If they think playing Fruvous will bring in more members they will play more fruvous. So call in and say you are a Fruhead. On Sunday morning from 8AM to 11 AM there will be three Fruheads answering phones and John Platt has promised me to play some Fruvous.He is going to play BNL too. I hope I talk to some of you then. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 2000 02:01:32 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re: Moral Dilemmas The problem is there are no absolutes in these things. All sets of rules of behavior contain inconsistancies. From an inconsistancy you can prove anything, its a theorem of logic, glad to prove it to you if you like. Anyway what it comes down to is using common sense and doing what feels right. DLing a fruvous song is not going to really appreciably hurt Fruvous. Not DLing it is not going to destroy online access to music. Same thing for age discrimination. Do what makes you happy. If we were talking about something that did not effect you directly I'd say it had more of a moral tone to it. If you go to a 21+ show I don't think you are giving in to age discrimination. Its not like you are going to a club that excluded African Americans or Gays or something like that. You aren't encouraging the discrimination. Of course while I'm telling you not to worry so much about this I admire you for caring enough to worry. If everyone did this would be a much better world. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 02:32:32 GMT From: Amanda Murphy Subject: Re: Appel Farm Festival Line Up SaphiraCat83 wrote: > Ben Arnold > Jonatha Brooke > Greg Brown > Mary Chapin Carpenter > Vanida Gail > John Gorka > David Gray > Lucy Kaplansky > Moxy Früvous > Willy Porter > Martin Sexton > The Asylum Street Spankers > Richard Thompson Wow! This really is a great line up. (just in case you didn't hear the other five people say it... sorry.) I can't believe that no one has given a plug for Willy Porter yet, so here it is. :) Anita and I were lucky enough to see him open for Richard Shindell at Appel Farm the weekend after Frucon and wow, I was totally blown away! The Appel Farm staff must have been too since Willy is the only performer to play on both festival stages. yay. His second set is right after Fruvous so if you're not one to stand in line (for hours) at their meet and greet, then stick around for it. The little bit I've heard of his recorded stuff doesn't begin to do him justice, unfortunately... See you all there hopefully. oh and if you're interested, check out volunteering for the day- they treat you wonderfully... http://www.appelfarm.org/festival/volunteer_sign_up.html AmandaNavvab ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:23:01 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Black Swamp 2000 I just received info of when the Black Swamp Arts Festival will be. Fruvous performed there last year, no news at all about this year, but who knows. They've been known to do repeat performances.. :) September 8-10, 2000 Bowling Green, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 05:18:35 GMT From: kyla Subject: Re: Way OT: Gluey hands - --- Gella wrote: > Okay... who here used to put glue on their hands so they could peel > it off when > it dried? *Gella raises her hand me me me!! sixth grade art class- the teacher had no control over us at all, so we'd spend all period smearing glue all over our hands and singing "we all live in a yellow submarine." i think the teacher was glad he only had us once a week. - --kyla ===== AIM: canadan2 ICQ: 37135028 ?:^) marion sez: hi everyone! we miss u cedric! everyone's a novelist and everyone can sing but no one talks when the tv's on... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:55:46 -0400 From: "Kris DeHond" Subject: Re: Tory Cassis Chris Andrews and Dr. Damien do a call in show every monday evening from 5 to 6. I encourage everyone to call and and say your comments about Tory. Listen on the internet or in your car, but it would be just to cool for him to get radio play here! They will give the number plenty of times on the show! I think Sunrise would get a lot of non-fruhead support as well if they had the chance to hear it. Kris w/ a K - -- "I was never cool, in school. I'm sure you won't remember me." Ben Folds ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 2000 13:03:19 GMT From: shellyus@aol.comnojunk (Shelly S) Subject: RE: Mays Landing 4/20 Help, Help, Help. I have a ticket for Mays Landing & my car DIED on Monday :( I don't think I will hava time/means to buy one by next Thursday. I live abt 20 minutes outside of Philly(Ridley Park, PA) and would LOVE to share/cover cost of gas/tolls for travel for anyone willing to give me a ride. Please email me at the above address or you can find me at FHDC and Fru Me!! Thank you, Frü heads!!!!!! Shelly Sholley *twang*(that one's for YOU, Jac!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:39:47 GMT From: Milo Bloom Subject: Appel Farm - Car Pool Hello Fellow FruHeads. My girlfriend and I really want to go to the Appel Farm Festival. However renting a car here in NYC can get very costly. (Somewhere over $100 for the day.) So we were hoping to car pool with someone. We would like to either.... 1) Chip in for gas and tolls.... or 2) I will rent the car and split the costs. Now before you say... Check Fruhead.com for fru-trips, I just want to say.. Been there. Done that. My only request is that I want to be able to be there for the entire festival. Start to finish. Not an unreasonable request, I think. Mark aka Milobloom please respond to milobloom@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:39:08 GMT From: "Sigrid, the only FruSmurf" Subject: Re: My name is Joe, and I ,, Am,,, Canadian Only looking at the surface of things, I love this commercial. It's about being proud of Canada, being Canadian, the little differences between the north and south of the border types that we Canucks treasure so much....BUT, and I agree totally with the National Post on this who had this topic on the front page earlier this week, this commercial is not about national pride at all, it's an ad. National pride is a gimmick, a tool, and a rather potent one. All Molson's want to do with this is sell beer and make money. And it's sad that Molson's has to sink so low just to compete with Labatt's "Out of the Blue" campaign. It's equally sad that people are getting sucked into this. IMO, national pride should not be a saleable commodity. But, speaking objectively, you gotta hand it to their advertising guys - the idea is low, but brilliant! I wonder who thought it up... Sigrid - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Colleen Anne McClanahan" To: "Moxy Fruvous Newsgroup" Subject: Re: My name is Joe, and I ,, Am,,, Canadian Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:20:08 GMT mike yoshioka: | Recently Molson Canadian (Their slogan for the last few years has been | "I am. Canadian." ) started running a new ad that I think is | hilarious. Unfortunately (or fortunately) it's only shown in Canada | (or those border towns, wannabe-Canadians ;) ) | | This ad features a guy, standing up on stage, with images being | projected behind him. He goes into a speech (rant) and here is what he | says: To see this ad, go to http://www.adcritic.com/content/molson-canadian-i-am.html . You might want to hold off if you have a slow connection. :) Colleen Anne | Hey, I'm not a lumberjack or a fur trader. | I don't live in an igloo or eat blubber or own a dogsled. | And I don't know Jimmy, Sally or Suzie from Canada, | although I'm certain that they're really, really nice. | I have a prime minister, not a president. | I speak English and French, not American. | And I pronounce it "about", not "a boot". | I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack. | I believe in peace-keeping (not policing), diversity | (not assimilation), and that the beaver is a | truly proud and noble animal. | A toque is a hat, a chesterfield is a couch, and | it is prounced "zed" -- not "zee", "zed". | Canada is the 2nd largest landmass, the first nation of | hockey, and the best part of North America. | My name is Joe, and ...I...AM...CANADIAN ! | Thank you ! | | Joe was also at the Canucks last home game, he did the speech and the | whole sellout crowd just went insane. :) I know this is completely off | topic, but , uhm, I like the commercial :) | | Mike aka Racer aka Joe-Wannabe | | PS This goes right into my favourite commercial slot. Pushing aside | the women's hockey/shaving commercial. (Hilarious as well) and the | Labatt's out of the blue commercials. Hrmmmm, my favourite commercials | are beer commercials and I don't even drink beer. :) | | ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:57:43 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: fruvous at the tmbg show last night Hey HEY! So last night in NYC there was a tmbg show... there will be tmbg-shows every thursday night in the city for the next month and a half as well... which is important to fruheads because, as it turns out... A bunch of the giant fans are flying into NYC for their show on April 20th and sticking around for the frushow on the 21st. yay[1]. Well, when people started discussing this in line - they started a fruvous sing-along. It lasted for a good 20 minutes and covered a good 7 frusongs. I was scared of some of these people, but thoroughly entermused. it seriously took me about 2 minutes before i realized what these kids were doing... when i got back to my apartment i stepped inside to find that someone had slid a giant photograph underneath my door... of fruvous playing at the allstar game. hehee... this one is just too great. i'll try to get it scanned and add it to the other allstar pics at: http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/fruallstar.html take it easy, Special J http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/ np: Lords of Acid [1]that was yay because i turned that into *one* sentence. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:24:59 GMT From: neil@nospam.flipse.com (Neil Bardhan) Subject: Re: Way OT: Gluey hands On 13 Apr 2000 21:30:59 GMT, spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) wrote: >Okay... who here used to put glue on their hands so they could peel it off when >it dried? *Gella raises her hand Yep. Got in trouble in... 3rd grade(?) for that. Naw, maybe it was 2nd. 4th sounds better, almost. At any rate, the art teacher gave me a punch. See, each kiddo had a punch card per month. 2 sides, if I remember right. One was discipline, other was academic (maybe)... If he had less than 5 punches in a month, they could go to the End Of The Month Treat (ice cream sundaes or movie or something). Maybe I'll go nap now. Wasted art supplies, Neil Neil Bardhan: neil@flipse.com | PGP user http://demon.ceh.servtech.com | Scrawny Ferret "You sure do eat a lot, for a little guy."--Doc Loomis You just might want to remove NOSPAM from my address. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:40:02 GMT From: Lori Martin Subject: digesting a digest ... (Vol 4 #183) I'm going to pretend I'm Angie here and answer a bunch of posts at once ... :) Said Drea-formerly-of-Thunder-Bay: > > She's very popular! And I thought it was 80 billion kilometers! > I've heard both.. and having lived there for the better part of 9 > years, I can vouch for the fact that even though it isn't *really* 8 > billion or 80 billion kilometres long, it certainly feels like it!! ;) > okay, okay, 7.35 billion kilometers. and that's just between Ottawa and the Soo. :) heaven only knows how big the rest of it is. Then vika said many things re: > Subject: OT: speaking of internationality.... including: > The last straw was the article I've > referenced below, written by one of the head librarians of the > University Library (someone please save us!), which essentially says > "who needs graduate education in your field anyway." to which I can only say: this head librarian is a fool, who evidently understands nothing about literature despite the exposure you'd think s/he would have on the job AND academically. Such narrowing of the graduate-studies spectrum is unfortunate. Perhaps (alas) it's to be expected in a 'what-pays' society, but I would have thought that an institution with the reputation of Brown would be somewhat immune to the omnipresent logic of the bottom line, and would agree that education's worth is measured by more than its marketability. Yes, advanced linguistics studies ARE necessary to maintain a *culture* and not merely a society. I worry when I see those in charge of disseminating any aspect of culture, such as that librarian, not having a clue what culture is. Spake Chad, re Appel Farm: > SaphiraCat83 wrote: > > Greg Brown > > Mary Chapin Carpenter > > Vanida Gail > > John Gorka > > Moxy Früvous > > Martin Sexton > > Brown and Martin Sexton> and those people listed right before Martin ... :) I just got a brochure from Falcon Ridge today! Wow! Tell me THAT ain't a lineup! Janis Ian! John Gorka! Patty Larkin! Vance! (and a few other people ... ) then Saph said: > > Ok, here's my 2 bits... > I kind of aggree with Gella. Widely known artists can afford to have MP3s out > of the internet, and can also afford to sue Napster (as Metallica is doing) ... ;) In fairness, though, I never would have heard about Three Dead Trolls In A Baggie had Chrissy not directed me to their MP3s. I tend to think MP3s, used responsibly, are a lifeline for small acts as a means of getting the word out. For better-known acts I think they're probably more hurtful -- because even though the financial status of the bigger act might seem more fluid, they're already well-known, they already get radio play, and MP3s don't disseminate knowledge of the music so much as serve as bootleg recordings. So don't d/l indiscriminately! If you like something enough to store the MP3, then buy the CD! /lecture. Gella also said: > Okay... who here used to put glue on their hands so they could peel it off when > it dried? *Gella raises her hand okay, you're officially weird now. :) Would anyone here admit to EATING glue? There was a kid in Andrew's class who did that. Yuck. and Sara patiently typed: > NOW Magazine > April 13, 2000 > > under T.O. Music Notes by Matt Galloway, Kim Hughes and Tim Perlich > > MOXY FRUVOUS > Dora Keogh Pub, Web, April 5 > > Over black bean soup and a pint of stout, Moxy Fruvous singer/percussionist > Jian Ghomeshi what?! no pizza? > Also coming in May: a 30-minute documentar on Fruvous via news-magazine show > CBS Sunday Morning. Last week a crew followed the guys around their > hometown and will film upcoming shows in Philly and NYC. woo-hoo! This sounds awesome. Thanks for the alert, Sara! (Philly show? what Philly show? Wilmington? Mays Landing? Allentown? *Annapolis*?! ) Katie, re: glue again, said: > I did!! I did!! It was so fun!!! I still do sometimes! Oh, and some friends of > mine have some beauty/face mask stuff that feels and looks exactly like glue...and > you get to peel it off, too!! Get Freeman Peach Tree & Pear Gel Masque. Smells heavenly, and feels oddly like Handi-Wrap when dry. Peel and Play fun at its finest! (There's also Cucumber & Ginseng Peel-Off Masque, which feels wonderful but doesn't have that inimitable scent.) And now that we're back to cosmetics and yummy smells, I think my work here is done. :D - -- Lori Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html photos now up at the Ravine: Utica, Spring Gulch, Falcon Ridge, SoNo, and Annapolis. more coming soon! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:04:32 GMT From: gingee@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Wilmington DE show, 4/19/00: detour! FYI, In case you need them and haven't seen them, Jason Ipock very kindly posted detailed directions for avoiding the detour problem. See them on the Fru-tripping page at FHDC. Cheers! gingee Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:58:45 GMT From: "Chris K @*_*@" Subject: Re: OT: mp3s - 3 Dead Trolls (was: digesting a digest ... (Vol 4 #183) Lori Martin wrote: *snip* > then Saph said: > > > > > Ok, here's my 2 bits... > > I kind of aggree with Gella. Widely known artists > > can afford to have > > MP3s out > > of the internet, > > and can also afford to sue Napster (as Metallica is doing) ... ;) > > In fairness, though, I never would have heard about > Three Dead Trolls In > A Baggie had > Chrissy not directed me to their MP3s. *snip* *grin* no problem Lori! I knew you would like that band (I found by accident on mp3.com). I mean, who could forget the wonderful "The Toronto Song" with the lyrics o/~ I hate the Skydome and the CN tower too... o/~ ;-) This band happens to be the one that wants to sell their CDs via mp3.com and download the mp3s. Please see this web page for reference (which contains ordering information & the FAQ): http://www.deadtroll.com/troll/index2.html and this is how Wes feels about mp3s - nice/interesting rant from him *g*: http://www.deadtroll.com/wes/rant.html and as Wes said..."Nya" ;) Christine. *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* - --Diet soda? - --No thanks. FREAKED!!!! - --Fiddle Faddle? Elijah to Ricky - --Alright.....delicious. 1993 *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:38:38 GMT From: "fruomfffan@xoommail.com" Subject: Re: Way OT: Gluey hands "Spin0za1" wrote in message news:20000413173059.26798.00000071@ng-fg1.aol.com... > Okay... who here used to put glue on their hands so they could peel it off when > it dried? *Gella raises her hand Me too! Actually I still do sometimes...ahem. 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