From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #135 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, March 5 2000 Volume 04 : Number 135 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: An optical allusion that will astound you, works on all spec pc's:) 6674 [b2dv8 ] Re: Guilty Pleasures [saphiracat83@aol.com (SaphiraCat83)] Re: Guilty Pleasures [vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Boycott Amazon.com (OT, but important!) ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Guilty Pleasures ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Guilty Pleasures ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Guilty Pleasures (awww yeah!) [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruh] Re: Allentown info [MJ ] Re: Guilty Pleasures ["Daancing Queen" ] Re: in defense of the beatles [melinda klump ] Re: Guilty Pleasures [melinda klump ] Re: OT: Arrogant Worms (long, sorry) [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at f] Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll [lawrence solomon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 06:37:00 GMT From: b2dv8 Subject: Re: An optical allusion that will astound you, works on all spec pc's:) 6674 don't touch this thing! has flooded ng's w/ disease! On Sun, 05 Mar 2000 04:01:53 GMT, xikqug@btinternet.com wrote: >Run this file, and after 20 seconds of looking at optical visuals you will WANT to ring all your friends...damn amazing!!! > >www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/759/optical.exe > >ehuyqywnxhmgeoxnyocnqsex ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 2000 07:21:57 GMT From: dalevy@aol.com (DALevy) Subject: Re: Boycott Amazon.com (OT, but important!) At the risk of jumping into a flame war, I've gotta say I side with Amazon on this one. Any company is free to come up with its own innovation for making online shopping easier, but Amazon's specific advances are their own business property and they should be able to profit from their innovations. It's really simple. Amazon's patent does nothing to stop a person who invents a better mousetrap from coming along. But others can't simply copy what Amazon created. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 00:36:27 -0800 From: cookie Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Donna Hunt wrote: > What the Monkees had that separates them from the Spice Girls and N'Sync were > *great* songwriters. (Damn, this is a cynical group.) Rant warning!! Umm....I think whoever's writing for the Spice Girls and N'Sync are pretty good, too. We're all aware that their music ain't art, but "it's got a good beat, and you can dance to it," and I, for one, love to dance! I feel sorry for those of you who are too busy searching for hidden meanings in lyrics, questioning the integrity of the musicians, and asking everyone else who you should like, instead of just cutting loose and letting the music literally move you, and enjoying the hell out of it. The Monkees were a very happy part of my childhood, so when I hear them now, I feel happy! When people inform me that I'm not supposed to like music that makes me happy simply because the musicians didn't write the music, or because they were a manufactured group, or for whatever reason, I just gotta wonder what on God's green earth has made those people so cynical and bitter to not realize that music is one of the few things in life that is absolutely pure joy! So, go ahead and be music snobs if you want to, but I'm certainly not going to deprive myself of something that makes me happy, and I'm damn sure not going to feel guilty about it. If anyone here thinks that by liking the Monkees, I'm in some way blaspheming the almighty Beatles, I've got to interject that one has nothing to do with the other. One band wrote some of the greatest music of the century and altered music for all time, and the other one was a group of great entertainers. (As a side note, I'd just like to also say that the musical world doesn't begin and end with the Beatles. Sure, they were geniuses, but they were also human, and as such, managed to also write some kinda crappy stuff, too. People seem to remember stuff like "Abbey Road," but tend to forget the majority of side two of "Help."*) End rant. Cookie Now waiting for the inevitable rebuttals of how side two of "Help" is the greatest work the Beatles ever did. *Excepting "Yesterday." ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 2000 14:09:40 GMT From: saphiracat83@aol.com (SaphiraCat83) Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures I just want to put in my two bits. I like the Monkees. I saw the show on Nick at Nite and I liked it. I have never been really into the Beatles (except for the song Elenor Rigby), and I blame this partially on my 6th grade music teacher ramming Beatles down our throats. Ok. Now that I've stated where I stand, he's my take on what Cookie said: >Umm....I think whoever's writing for the Spice Girls and N'Sync are pretty >good, >too. We're all aware that their music ain't art, but "it's got a good beat, >and you >can dance to it," and I, for one, love to dance! I feel sorry for those of >you who >are too busy searching for hidden meanings in lyrics, questioning the >integrity of >the musicians, and asking everyone else who you should like, instead of just >cutting >loose and letting the music literally move you, and enjoying the hell out of >it. I like a very wide varity of music, and I'm kind of inclined to agree with her. Some music is just in existence because it has a good beat, and you can cut loose, and it's not really supposed to mean anything except to make people get up and dance. Some music is in existence because it does mean something from the stand point of the songwriters/singers and the people who listen to it. Music spans the whole spectrum, and that's how it should be. I've heard the Beatles are one of the greatest musicians in the world, but according to my Dad, they were only a flash in the pan compared to the Rolling Stones. There are so many takes on music, and so much music to have takes on. I say just enjoy the stuff you like, don't listen to or tolerate the stuff you don't. Alrighty, that's it from me. - -Saph ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 15:27:42 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Spake cookie : >Umm....I think whoever's writing for the Spice Girls and N'Sync are pretty good, >too. We're all aware that their music ain't art, but "it's got a good beat, and you >can dance to it," and I, for one, love to dance! Then again, who said music had to be "art" (let's not try and define this one, we'll be here until the Beatles get back together) in the first place? So yeah, I agree with you that good beat/can dance should be enough of justification for liking a song. However... >I feel sorry for those of you who >are too busy searching for hidden meanings in lyrics, questioning the integrity of >the musicians, and asking everyone else who you should like, instead of just cutting >loose and letting the music literally move you, and enjoying the hell out of it. I usually don't look for much hidden meaning in songs. I've found that poets rarely purposefully hide meaning in their work; the "hidden" meaning may result from an incomplete understanding of where the poet is coming from, socio-politically, emotionally, etc. That's where the study of poetry comes in, for me. What frustrates and often irritates me in "pop" music, specifically (since we're on the subject) regarding teen sensations of any era (yeah, Elvis is included, though he had a certain something in addition to what I'm about to say) is this: the musician HAS to be aesthetically appealing, and nowadays sexual appeal is a requisite as well, as is marketing. If Brittney Spears were fifty pounds heavier and didn't her cute catholic-school girl outfit didn't fit her as precisely as it does now, would she be as famous as she is now, solely on the merits of the music she performs? If the Backstreet Boys were not the sex pots they are, would you still hear them on the radio? I would guess not, because they would not have been marketed in the first place. THIS is why I don't like their music. To me, it sounds cookie-cutter, simplistic, what have you. Yeah, sometimes I'll listen to it (here's where my agreement with you comes in) purely for the purpose of getting lost in the beat and maybe dancing some in my living room. But it holds no lasting value for me, and I'm sure that in a couple of years I will not be listening to it, just like a couple of years after I had first heard Color Me Badd I wasn't listening to them either. But it *doesn't* mean that this music has no right to exist, and/or no social value. It does. It's just not my thing, and not many people's thing, for reasons explained above. There is so much more to songs than meaningful lyrics... although don't get me started on a 17 year old teen sensation's definition of "love." And there are other reasons, besides lyrics, that people may not like this type of... music, though again, it's more than just "music." - -v P.S. >Now waiting for the inevitable rebuttals of how side two of "Help" is the greatest >work the Beatles ever did. I don't even remember what songs are on side two of "Help." I like the Beatles' songs in random order. :) - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "Open the door, HAL." - -- "Dave, I am afraid I can't do that." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:24:54 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Boycott Amazon.com (OT, but important!) DALevy wrote: > > At the risk of jumping into a flame war, I've gotta say I side with Amazon on > this one. Any company is free to come up with its own innovation for making > online shopping easier, but Amazon's specific advances are their own business > property and they should be able to profit from their innovations. It's really > simple. Amazon's patent does nothing to stop a person who invents a better > mousetrap from coming along. But others can't simply copy what Amazon created. There is not flame war at all. I said the same thing Doug, but from the responses I got, I gather that the real problem here is with the US patent office granting patents that are totally absurd. (They DO sound absurd to me). This is really the root of the problem, and we should all be writing our legislators about some kind of patent office reform. The people boycotting Amazon are basically saying "You applied for patents that you should have known should not have been granted. Just because they (stupidly) were, doesn't give you the moral right to actively use them against other online businesses, and we object to that behavior." I guess that is a valid argument, and a boycott perhaps may be the only effective recourse at this point. However I still feel that the real culprit here is not Amazon, but rather the U.S. Patent Office. I don't think it is the inventor's job to decide beforehand if they are owed a patent. They apply, and the Patent Office decides that. If the patent office decides incorrectly, is that the fault of the applicant? Well maybe a little, but mostly I think the villian here has to be the Patent Office. A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 11:56:15 -0500 From: MJ Subject: Re: OT: gelatin / agar PoppRoxx14@aol.com wrote: > hey now be nice to dentists b/c i'm goin to be a hygenist and i promice that > i will not shred anyones gums....unless i have too of course but i will be > nice about it ok?...ok! sorry, no offense... But, honestly, how many times have you had a dentist asking you questions as he/she simultaneously drilled away? i understand that they're just trying to be friendly, but there are times when it's really anything but..... ~truztno1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:57:12 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Vika Zafrin wrote: > If Brittney Spears were fifty pounds heavier and didn't her > cute catholic-school girl outfit didn't fit her as precisely as it does > now, would she be as famous as she is now, solely on the merits of the > music she performs? If the Backstreet Boys were not the sex pots they > are, would you still hear them on the radio? Heh. Only in Canada. :) I like that about Canada! > >Now waiting for the inevitable rebuttals of how side two of "Help" is the greatest > >work the Beatles ever did. > > I don't even remember what songs are on side two of "Help." Nor does anyone else. That is the point! :D [1] A.J. [1] {We are speaking here, of course, of the American release of Help in which side 2 is totally full of "filler". Side 2 of my German import Help (known there as Hi-Hi-Hilfe!) has great stuff on side 2. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:45:22 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures SaphiraCat83 wrote: > I've heard the Beatles are one of the greatest musicians in the world, but > according to my Dad, they were only a flash in the pan compared to the Rolling > Stones. Well strictly speaking, that is absolutely true. 38 years later, The Stones are still recording and performing, while the Beatles called it quits after just 9. Moreover I have to say that the Beatles (individually or collectively were FAR from great MUSICIANS. They were (and are) mediocre musicians. They were great SONG WRITERS, and they made great RECORDS. If you've heard any of their live recordings, you know that the fairly sucked live. They had energy, but that is about all. The Stones OTOH ARE great musicians. Very few people are in Keith Richard's class as far as being Rock/Blues guitarists, and while he doesn't play often, Mick Jagger is (according to Brian Setzer, who should know) a great guitarist also. One other thing I wanted to say on the subject of bands that don't write all their own music: How may songs did Frank Sinatra write? A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 2000 17:16:28 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures (awww yeah!) I was just wondering, should I *really* admit this?, when Lynne up and said: >I guess age gives a fair or unfair advantage.... > .. Debbie Gibson .. maddeningly catchy, wasn't she? As Debbie, that is, not "Deborah". - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 12:04:38 -0500 From: MJ Subject: Re: Allentown info Amanda Murphy wrote: > thought this might be useful info to pass on... > > Moxy Fruvous > Sunday, April 30, 2000 > Allentown Symphony Hall > 23 North 6th Street > Allentown, PA > 610.432.6715 ask for the box office which is open M-F from 9am till > 430pm Waitasecond.... so, this show is going on? According to various Fruheads on FHDC's frutripping plans, there were several rumors going around 1)that the show was cancelled, and 2) even though it wasn't bryn mawr, it was still a students only show.... How's the venue (i.e., large, old, standing-only, etc.)? ~A confused truztno1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 17:30:37 GMT From: "Daancing Queen" Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures >Umm....I think whoever's writing for the Spice Girls and N'Sync are pretty >good, >too. We're all aware that their music ain't art, but "it's got a good beat, >and you >can dance to it," and I, for one, love to dance! I feel sorry for those of >you who >are too busy searching for hidden meanings in lyrics, questioning the >integrity of >the musicians, and asking everyone else who you should like, instead of >just cutting >loose and letting the music literally move you, and enjoying the hell out >of it. Ya Cookie! You said it. There is lots of music that I like for the beautiful lyrics (not neccessarily deep hidden meanings, but just the simple poetry) - such as Harry Chapin (the ultimate storyteller) and John Denver. And the music of it too, touches something in me, that's why I listen to it. But I like to have fun and so I like my manufactured groups that I can dance to. And no, maybe 5 years down the road, I'll never listen to them again - they'll be stored in hiding along with my Tiffany and Candi tapes. But does that matter? Does something have to last to be enjoyable? >write some kinda crappy stuff, too. People seem to remember stuff like >"Abbey Road," >but tend to forget the majority of side two of "Help."*) >*Excepting "Yesterday." I must have a different version of Help - I see no Yesterday anywhere on my record. My listing is side 1: Help, the Night Before, You've Got to Hide You Love Away, I Need You. Side 2: Another Girl, Ticket to Ride, You're Going to Lose that Girl. And a lot of instrumental stuff in between. So yes, given my album, I probably could argue with you - cause the last two songs are great ones. Although I aven't really listened to it recently, so I couldn't tell you if the instrumental stuff is any good. Just being nitpicky. Sara ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 17:38:35 GMT From: melinda klump Subject: Re: in defense of the beatles i would like to say, in defense of the beatles as live performers, that the comparison to anyone who still performs live is unfair, because the only live recordings we have of them are either from their very very early years, mostly before they made even one studio recording, or from horrifying situations where the (now) primitive sound systems could not hope to compete with the hoards of screaming girls. the beatles could barely hear themselves play, which is part of why they stopped playing live in the first place. also, i think both paul mcartney as a bass player and george harrison as a guitar player are astonishingly underrated, and if you really listen to anything from rubber soul on its sooo obvious, and even more so if you listen to george harrison's post-beatles work. okay, that's my little beatles speech. i'm done now. hee. :) melinda > From: "A.J. LoCicero" > Organization: Cohesive Technology Solutions > Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous > Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:45:22 GMT > To: ammf@fruvous.com > Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures > > SaphiraCat83 wrote: > >> I've heard the Beatles are one of the greatest musicians in the world, but >> according to my Dad, they were only a flash in the pan compared to the >> Rolling >> Stones. > > Well strictly speaking, that is absolutely true. 38 years later, The > Stones are still recording and performing, while the Beatles called it > quits after just 9. Moreover I have to say that the Beatles > (individually or collectively were FAR from great MUSICIANS. They were > (and are) mediocre musicians. They were great SONG WRITERS, and they > made great RECORDS. If you've heard any of their live recordings, you > know that the fairly sucked live. They had energy, but that is about > all. The Stones OTOH ARE great musicians. Very few people are in Keith > Richard's class as far as being Rock/Blues guitarists, and while he > doesn't play often, Mick Jagger is (according to Brian Setzer, who > should know) a great guitarist also. > > One other thing I wanted to say on the subject of bands that don't write > all their own music: > > How may songs did Frank Sinatra write? > > A.J. > > -- > _____ _ > / ____(_) > | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ > | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ > | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | > \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 17:55:10 GMT From: melinda klump Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures > From: "Daancing Queen" > Organization: Cohesive Technology Solutions > Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous > Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 17:30:37 GMT > To: ammf@fruvous.com > Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures > > I must have a different version of Help - I see no Yesterday anywhere on my > record. My listing is side 1: Help, the Night Before, You've Got to Hide > You Love Away, I Need You. Side 2: Another Girl, Ticket to Ride, You're > Going to Lose that Girl. you have the american release of help!, which has a lot of the instrumental soundtrack on it (cool george martin stuff), as opposed to the uk release which has extra songs. personally, i think both versions are great- and i like those second side songs, especially "i've just seen a face". but then, i'm a fanatic. :) melinda ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 2000 17:59:08 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: OT: Arrogant Worms (long, sorry) Lisa got all peeved at the illustrious Rev. Fred and said: >now, these are some of the arrogant worms lyrics, and are meant to get a >laugh. i'm sure one could look deeper (ok, not too deep >grin<) and arrive at >some sort of anti-American sentiment, but i mean really! why? Oh, sweetheart! Are you alleging that Fred Phelps ever looked deeply at anything in his entire life? I'd send y'all to his website,[1] but it would just make you throw up. So please believe me when I say he's a hate-filled imbecile, the embodiment of "poisonous righteous", and I'd consider being condemned by him to be the ultimate badge of honour. Would that Fruvous could have gotten his attention instead of the Worms! (Although I have no doubt should they come to his attention, that same millisecond they will be consigned by his all-knowingness to the fires of Hell, along with Matthew Shepard and apparently all you infernal northern types.) who's with me >in saying the Rev and his followers should spend their time doing something >more productive than persecuting a Canadian satirical band? Hey, when he's persecuting the Worms he's not inciting hate crimes at least. (I don't think. But now that I do think about it, maybe he is, and maybe the Worms ought to be concerned about this. I mean that seriously. For that matter, I mean this whole post seriously.) >or, maybe it was these lyrics that offended the Rev. : Personally, I think Wouldn't It Be Great if Everybody Had a Gun is what drove him over the edge. But then again, maybe satire's too far beyond his capabilities, and it was one of the songs Lisa cited. I don't know. The way the man's brain works, assuming he HAS a brain (big assumption there) is a mystery to me. In fact, calling him a MAN is a pretty big assumption. - -- Lori Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru [1] If you absolutely insist, find a search engine and look for Westboro Baptist Church. My fingers revolt at typing the actual URL. Your eyes will probably revolt at what you find there. Don't say I didn't warn you. This guy is sick, pathetic, twisted, hate-filled, and, I fear, *very* dangerous. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 13:56:17 -0500 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll Gordon Nash wrote: > > Fruheads come on all stripes. I'm sure some have a large number of CDs and > other have Früvous make up a large portion of their collection. I'm > interested how may recordings does everyone own? I was just listening to the > Texaco Opera show and someone on it has 15,000 recordings 5000 vinyl and > 10,000 CDs. whoa. that's a *LOT* of CDs... I only have somewhere around 130, but now, thanks to Früheads introducing me to the wonderful music of many other bands, I have a feeling it's going to increase rather quickly (as my savings decrease as quickly :) so, really, Früvous, with their 6 CDs, make up a remarkably small percentage, since I don't collect live recordings... (yet :) on the other hand, my TMBG collection , with its 8 albums, 8 EPs/samplers/singles, one 2-disc set, and one promo album, is a considerably larger chunk. But I'd guess that if Früvous singles were (or had ever been) easily accessible in the States I'd have a lot more of them, too... my parents, though, probably have somewhere around 400 CDs and several thousand records (my father gets records from yard sales where, more often than not, the people selling stuff have no clue as to what it's worth and sell records for 25 cents or less, because they're 'useless') - -- lawrence solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "You knew it was true, when I held you, there were no secrets. I believed it." -Moxy Früvous, _I Will Hold On_ ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 2000 19:24:19 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Betsy said RacerMike said: > "Doot doot doo doot, doot doot doo doot , doot doo doo doot doo doo > doo doot, I am sitting , in the diner, and a man ,,,,,,,,," Am I the ONLY one who can't help thinking that after the final doot, the lyrics should read "Friday night and the lights are low ... " ? Damn. Topicality. Someone just shoot me now. - -- Lori Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 2000 19:20:51 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Donna spake: >[1] Ok, I admit, this is simply a thinly-disguised "Me too" post, but I'm >just >so pleased that Joe has come out to play with us all again, I had to do >*something* besides jump up and down in my chair. :) /lori jumps too! /lori jumps too! SEE what reverting to AOHell does to one? :D - -- Lori Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru **************** missing my grown-up isp ... :( ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 2000 19:12:38 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll Gordon Nash wrote: > I'm >> interested how may recordings does everyone own? I was just listening to >the >> Texaco Opera show and someone on it has 15,000 recordings 5000 vinyl and >> 10,000 CDs. Huh. This is just gonna be guesswork: I'd say maybe 150 LPs (vinyl); 20 vinyl singles, 250 or so cassettes, and maybe 200 CDs. Plus probably about 25 Fru-boots on various media. - -- Lori Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru *************** oh, and at least one 8-track, although I have nothing to play it on ... :) ------------------------------ Date: 05 Mar 2000 19:20:27 GMT From: serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman) Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures >Vika Zafrin wrote: >> If Brittney Spears were fifty pounds heavier and didn't her >> cute catholic-school girl outfit didn't fit her as precisely as it does >> now, would she be as famous as she is now, solely on the merits of the >> music she performs? If the Backstreet Boys were not the sex pots they >> are, would you still hear them on the radio? > >Heh. Only in Canada. :) I like that about Canada! A friend of mine met Mandy Moore this past week, at a Fiona Apple concert of all places. Apparently, she's a big fan of Fiona Snapple. Furthermore, my friend said she was surprisingly intelligent. I was impressed- a teenybopper bimbette, wasn't. She has a brain in her head! *shrug* I don't know what the point of this post was, but I thought it would be an interesting point. - -J writing a song called the Ballad of Jill V. Fruhead Ji-Murray person The Leopard Lady "She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter Too short to play herself in a movie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 15:25:39 +0000 From: Mike Wood Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures > One other thing I wanted to say on the subject of bands that don't write > all their own music: > > How may songs did Frank Sinatra write? nineteen. or, was that supposed to be rhetorical? :} - - Mike "do *I* know what a rhetorical QUESTION is???" Wood ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #135 ********************************************