From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #134 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, March 4 2000 Volume 04 : Number 134 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT: gelatin / agar [spychicr@aol.compoot (Rai-Marie)] Re: Guilty Pleasures [LilacGirl1002@aol.com] Re: Other Bands [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: Guilty Pleasures [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: Other Bands [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: Guilty Pleasures [Lisa Carpenter ] Re: OT: bad teachers [carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759)] Re: Guilty Pleasures [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: Drinking Song: was:RE: Madison Set List et such [lawrence solomon ] Re: OT: gelatin / agar [MJ ] Re: OT: gelatin / agar [MJ ] How large is your CD collection? A Poll [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: FRU on NTN ["Kate Leahy" ] Allentown info [Amanda Murphy ] Re: FRU on NTN ["@*_*@ CDK" ] Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll [frustar ] Re: Umlaus [Sally ] Re: Guilty Pleasures [Donna Hunt ] Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll ["Dorgon" > Did it have a picture of a cow in it that you would lick to prove a point? --Rai-Marie, who did lick the cow. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Rai-Marie (SpyChic@fruhead.com)'s gonna be on Time Magazine one day. "Everything comes back to Moxy Fruvous." ~my Mother ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 06:14:19 GMT From: LilacGirl1002@aol.com Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures In a message dated 3/3/2000 9:03:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, lmlc@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << i also have the single for livin' la vida loca. ::runs and hides:: *************Lisa, *lowers her head in shame* I do too. I have it, and occasionally I will listen to it. I'm ashamed that I also have both Titanic CD's. Ack!************ Betsy "Moxy Fruvous-- more important than water." ------------------------------ Date: 04 Mar 2000 06:26:05 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re: Other Bands >>>If you are in NYC or LA go see Hedwig, its fantastic.<< > >No, don't. > >Well, not that it's not fantastic--it is, amazing. But it's also closed. At >least in New York. The New York run has been extended to May 28, I just checked the official site. Now everyone run out and see it. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: 04 Mar 2000 06:29:57 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures >Weird song snippets that I can't get out of my head >"My name is Luka(?) I live on the second floor,,,,," >"Doot doot doo doot, doot doot doo doot , doot doo doo doot doo doo >doo doot, I am sitting , in the diner, and a man ,,,,,,,,," > The first song is "Luka" and the second is "Tom's Diner." they are both by the wonderful Suzanne Vega. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: 04 Mar 2000 06:14:21 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: Other Bands >>If you are in NYC or LA go see Hedwig, its fantastic.<< No, don't. Well, not that it's not fantastic--it is, amazing. But it's also closed. At least in New York. ~jen (who's not implying that Ally Sheedy killed it, but.... ;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23"-- Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."--Rent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 06:26:56 GMT From: Lisa Carpenter Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures LilacGirl1002@aol.com wrote: > Betsy > "Moxy Fruvous-- more important than water." don't you mean "betsi" ::runs back to hiding place:: prarieFrü ******************** and these were our words our words were our songs these songs are our prayers these prayers keep me strong and i still believe..... ******************** ------------------------------ Date: 04 Mar 2000 06:04:42 GMT From: carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759) Subject: Re: OT: bad teachers I have only had two truly bad grade school teachers. One in elementary and one in high school. The rest of my teachers were good if not great. Those that were good would have been excellent if there weren't so many "problem children" to deal with. Teachers get little support from administration, community and parents, so it doesn't surprise me that the good teachers are becoming scarce. Now my grad school teachers, that's another story. But they don't have to take education classes to be professors, and that is part of the problem. That and they were just plain incompetent. ------------------------------ Date: 04 Mar 2000 06:33:16 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures >Am I the only person who prefers the original solo a cappella >non-remixed version from "Solitude Standing" No I prefer it too. The last time I saw her perform it live she didn't sing the doo doo part, she had the audiance do it. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 01:43:38 -0500 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: Drinking Song: was:RE: Madison Set List et such Gella wrote: > um... yeah, okay. My dad's a bit messed up. But the thing is that they don't well, he seems to be under the impression that one can only become more knowledgeable by attending more shows, and that someone who has been to more shows *obviously* knows more than someone who hasn't. > always end with The Drinking Song, and to my knowledge they have never > ALWAYS ended with The Drinking Song. I'm not quite sure why but it bothers > me if someone tries to claim that the lads ALWAYS do anything really. The > lads are unpredictable by nature. Even their unpredictability is I might go so far as to say they ALWAYS entertain. But of course, that's a different issue. As far as what actual things they do at shows, you're right, there isn't anything that is truly consistent (not even Michigan Militia, which I believe I've heard at all but one show I've been to) I've also encountered people who have said the same things about the Drinking Song, or worse yet, King of Spain ("Oh, no, you're wrong, they *always* play King of Spain") basically a lot of people think that Moxy Früvous have always been and should only ever be one thing, and don't want to allow them any choice or variety in what they do. actually, in general, it's the people who make claims and insist they are true, even though they don't really know for sure. but there's really no arguing with them. only the thought that hopefully Früvous will prove them wrong some time, and you'll be there to see the looks on their faces. :) (I remember about 5 years ago after I saw my first TMBG show and reported the setlist to a local BBS[1] someone insisted they *always* ended their shows with Frankenstein, despite the fact that I had just seen them end a show with Spy... people have a hard time letting go of the ideas they get, no matter how inaccurate...) I remember being disappointed at my first few shows when they didn't play the Drinking Song, because Live Noise had just come out, it sounded great, and I'd read on the newsgroup about what a cool experience it was. of course, I've heard and experienced it plenty of times since then, and sometimes it's great, and sometimes it seems rather forced, like they're playing it just because people want to hear it... > I love The Drinking Song... but when they close with My Poor Generation or I > Will Hold On or If Only You Knew, it's just as magical. I think the absolute best encore I ever heard them do was in Chicago in September, when they came back for their final encore, played Fly without saying a word, and then went almost directly into My Poor Generation. The audience was quiet and respectful, and there was little or no shouting for The Drinking Song, something I wish would happen more often. [1] ok, it was *my* BBS. maybe some of you from the DC area remember it. Politically Incorrect..... (uh oh, am I about to spawn a new thread about BBSing? :) - -- lawrence solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "You knew it was true, when I held you, there were no secrets. I believed it." -Moxy Früvous, _I Will Hold On_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 09:36:20 GMT From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kyla?= Subject: Re: Drinking Song: was:RE: Madison Set List et such Gella wrote: > > always end with The Drinking Song, and to my knowledge they have > never > > ALWAYS ended with The Drinking Song. I'm not quite sure why but it > bothers > > me if someone tries to claim that the lads ALWAYS do anything > really. The > > lads are unpredictable by nature. I've only been to two concerts and they didn't end with the Drinking Song at either. First concert they didn't even do it (well, it *was* at a beer festival...) and second one it was somewhere in the set, I believe, but not at the end- we got treated to Dancing Queen. - --Kyla ===== AIM: canadan2 ICQ: 37135028 ?:^) marion sez: hi everyone! we miss u cedric! if i said you were crazy, would you have to fight me? - -moxy früvous, gulf war song __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 12:28:10 GMT From: mossy_fruitloops@my-deja.com Subject: FRU on NTN Check it out! I am sooo excited about this! I was at a bar last night playing on the NTN games (it's a trivia game) and there was a person listed as FRU! I sooo wanted to find out who it was!!! And I am sure that person wanted to find out who I was since my name was Moxy!!! Can you guys believe that?!? Now leaving to share my excitement with the rest of the world! Jeni Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 12:56:23 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Drinking Song: was:RE: Madison Set List et such Spake lawrence solomon : >basically a lot of people think that Moxy Früvous have always been and should >only ever be one thing, and don't want to allow them any choice or variety in >what they do. Which is pretty much how Canada's reaction to Wood was explained. I'd hazard to say that since Wood's release people (in Canada as well as in the U.S. and everywhere else) have become a bit more open-minded than that. But you're right, this kind of opinion will always be there, no matter how diverse "the Fruvous style" (????) is. - -v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "Open the door, HAL." - -- "Dave, I am afraid I can't do that." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 15:03:31 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Drinking Song: was:RE: Madison Set List et such Vika Zafrin wrote: > > Spake lawrence solomon : > > >basically a lot of people think that Moxy Früvous have always been and should > >only ever be one thing, and don't want to allow them any choice or variety in > >what they do. > > Which is pretty much how Canada's reaction to Wood was explained. > > I'd hazard to say that since Wood's release people (in Canada as well as > in the U.S. and everywhere else) have become a bit more open-minded than > that. But you're right, this kind of opinion will always be there, no > matter how diverse "the Fruvous style" (????) is. Another factor in this equation is the expanding number of songs in their repertoire and the inevitable growth of boredom within the band for a certain song. Years ago they *ALMOST* always ended shows with either The Drinking Song or GWS. Usually one or the other. Part of the reason for that was that they were newer songs then, the band was less bored with them, and part of the reason was "what else were they going to play?" For a long time they seemed to feel that they needed a slow song to end the set, or the audience would never have let them leave! :) Now they have songs like MPG, Early Morning Rain, Alison, Poor Napoleon (well they HAD those last 3 back in '93 but they hardly ever played them at all in the '95-'96 period) and others that they have been ending with lately. They have also now begun to play around with ending on faster songs like Dancing Queen. they have created a lot more choices for themselves now, and of course are themselves more tired of ALWAYS playing The Drinking Song,[1] so of course the appearance of TDS has diminished in frequency. Bored yet? Oh and Gella, tell your dad that I've seen upwards of 60 shows, and the don't ALWAYS do ANYTHING! :) A.J. [1] Frankly I say thank god to that! Much as I like the song, I have heard it too many times (and especially too many times at the end). I find myself crossing my fingers every show now, hoping that they WON't end with that one - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: 04 Mar 2000 17:04:24 GMT From: saphiracat83@aol.com (SaphiraCat83) Subject: Re: OT: gelatin / agar I had that book too! It had the shiney cover with the spin-the-wheel-and-watch-the-colors-move thingie on it, right? I think it was called Explorabook, or something like that... - -Saph ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 17:38:45 GMT From: address@bottom-of-post.com (Eric) Subject: Re: Drinking Song: was:RE: Madison Set List et such In article <38C0B09A.ECCDEB65@fruhead.com>, zaph@fruhead.com wrote: >[1] ok, it was *my* BBS. maybe some of you from the DC area remember it. >Politically Incorrect..... (uh oh, am I about to spawn a new thread about >BBSing? :) (for those of you wondering, I have been lurking for the past week or two) Wow, I actually do remember that. I seem to recall that I had downloaded the WWIV software (or maybe something else, I really don't remember) and set up a BBS just for kicks (since I only had 1 phone line at the time) and named it Politically Incorrect. When I dialed up yours and found that it had the same name, I was quite disappointed. By the time my family got a second line, the Internet had already taken over. I was "Co-SysOp" of Destination Unknown (I think that was the name of it), which was run by a friend of my older brother who lived down the street from me. Wow, it's hard to believe that that was like 6 years ago. I was only 11!! Those were the good 'ol days.. I guess.. =) - --Eric - -- lightman "at" his.com http://www.his.com/lightman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:23:50 GMT From: "Carey Farrell" Subject: Re: guilty pleasures Cookie wrote: >It was Mickey, at least according to his autobiography, "I'm a Believer: My >life >of Monkees, Music, and Madness." Oh, wow, I've been trying to find this forever, not to mention Davy's book, They Made a Monkee Out of Me. But I *have* read Mike's novel, The Long Sandy Hairs of Neftoon Zamora, and it wasn't half bad. Carey, who certainly wasn't contemplating holding a party to celebrate Micky Dolenz's birthday this week. Ooooohhh, no:) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 13:25:39 -0500 From: MJ Subject: Re: OT: gelatin / agar Spin0za1 wrote: > Everytime I got my throat cultured Dr. Allendorf my evil pediatrician would > hold the dish up to me and say "What's in here Gella?" Correct response being > "...sheep's blood... Gharghhlgha (as he stuck a swab in my throat)" Oh, geez, I *hate* it when that happens.... i.e., when you're at the dentist's, the drills going "whheeeeeee!!!" in the backgound... Dentist: And how have you been? Me: vegwoodsurgh D: Yes, me too... so how's school? Me: OW!@#$^*&!!!!!!!!!!!! D: Oh, I'm *so* sorry... did that hurt? Me: ARRRRGGGHHHHHHH YES!!!! *Why* do they always ask you stupid questions when they *know* you can't answer back? ^sigh^ ~truztno1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 13:25:54 -0500 From: MJ Subject: Re: OT: gelatin / agar Spin0za1 wrote: > Everytime I got my throat cultured Dr. Allendorf my evil pediatrician would > hold the dish up to me and say "What's in here Gella?" Correct response being > "...sheep's blood... Gharghhlgha (as he stuck a swab in my throat)" Oh, geez, I *hate* it when that happens.... i.e., when you're at the dentist's, the drills going "whheeeeeee!!!" in the backgound... Dentist: And how have you been? Me: vegwoodsurgh D: Yes, me too... so how's school? Me: OW!@#$^*&!!!!!!!!!!!! D: Oh, I'm *so* sorry... did that hurt? Me: ARRRRGGGHHHHHHH YES!!!! *Why* do they always ask you stupid questions when they *know* you can't answer back? ^sigh^ ~truztno1 ------------------------------ Date: 04 Mar 2000 19:27:25 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: How large is your CD collection? A Poll Fruheads come on all stripes. I'm sure some have a large number of CDs and other have Früvous make up a large portion of their collection. I'm interested how may recordings does everyone own? I was just listening to the Texaco Opera show and someone on it has 15,000 recordings 5000 vinyl and 10,000 CDs. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:35:26 -0500 From: "Kate Leahy" Subject: Re: FRU on NTN Heh. Something tells me that was Mike :). An old story has it that Mike randomly picked up one of those remote trivia things in a bar once and started playing along. About halfway into the round the national network administrator called the bar and asked him to stop playing because no one else on the *entire* national network could get a chance :). - --Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 20:03:01 GMT From: Amanda Murphy Subject: Allentown info thought this might be useful info to pass on... Moxy Fruvous Sunday, April 30, 2000 Allentown Symphony Hall 23 North 6th Street Allentown, PA 610.432.6715 ask for the box office which is open M-F from 9am till 430pm tickets are general admission and $15 each. there is $2/order surcharge but no limit on tix. the show is at 8pm and doors are at 7pm. I was rather amused when Debbie, who runs the box office, suggested that I arrive around 730. she said that ppl usually don't get there much before show time but it's a good idea to do so. I casually mentioned that she shouldn't be surprised if there were ppl in line by 4- she said 'but they'll have to wait outside!??' I mentioned that it wasn't uncommon (and thought to myself if ppl were willing to wait outside in the snow in toronto, allentown in spring is nothing...) see ya then. AmandaM - -- "and I'm at peace with the idea that it was your time to go but was it my time to lose you is what I need to know..." ~ Meg Cary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:51:45 GMT From: "@*_*@ CDK" Subject: Re: FRU on NTN Kate Leahy wrote: > Heh. Something tells me that was Mike :). > An old story has it that Mike randomly picked up one of those remote > trivia things in a bar once and started playing along. About halfway > into the round the national network administrator called the bar and > asked him to > stop playing because no one else on the *entire* national network > could get a chance :). Mike actually told that story on an interview for a show called Planet of Sound from (I think) Columbus, OH. If you do an old search on the NG, you will see the info on how you can order that videotape from the station. (at the time it was posted, the tape costs $20) It's a 30 minute interview. Christine. - -Chrissy2K on irc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 21:08:50 GMT From: frustar Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll Hello, I don't have much... but here they are: 2 recordings, 1 vinyl, 30 cassettes and 115 cds and counting... ttyl anna p.s. I also have approx 45 VHS tapes with various music "stuff" recorded. including interviews, concerts, and music video's (most are 6 hr. tapes, One 8 hr. tape) Gordon Nash wrote: > Fruheads come on all stripes. I'm sure some have a large number of CDs and > other have Früvous make up a large portion of their collection. I'm interested > how may recordings does everyone own? I was just listening to the Texaco Opera > show and someone on it has 15,000 recordings 5000 vinyl and 10,000 CDs. > Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 16:40:07 -0500 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Joe Navratil (in regards to "Tom's Diner") wrote: > Am I the only person who prefers the original solo a cappella > non-remixed version from "Solitude Standing"? No. No, you're not. [1] Of course, that might have something to do with the water we drink. :) ciao, donna [1] Ok, I admit, this is simply a thinly-disguised "Me too" post, but I'm just so pleased that Joe has come out to play with us all again, I had to do *something* besides jump up and down in my chair. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 21:39:17 GMT From: Sally Subject: Re: Umlaus In article <20000229231049.01253.00001587@ng-fn1.aol.com>, gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) wrote: > Hi I have a question. I'm now using a laptop and I love it but I don't know how > to put the umlau of the u in Fruvous. How do I do that on a laptop? The best is the umlauted y. (˙). That one's pretty. (alt+0255) *sally* Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 16:49:11 -0500 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Daancing Queen wrote: > Ahem, first, the spelling is Monkees. And yes, they were created by a > casting call. But that also paved the way for similarly formed bands today > (Spice Girls, Nsync, etc. who are making oodles of money, so they must be > doing something right). Is that such a bad thing? I say the following as a Monkees fan: Um, well... YES! The mere fact that the Spice Girls and N'Sync (sp!) exist--as examples of how the Monkees paved the way and isn't that great... No, it's Not! :) I loved the Monkees, then and now. ;) But the reason that they are a "Guilty Pleasure" of mine is because they were concocted by the mega-industry as a giant money maker. I hate that about *anything*. Trying to cash in on the Beatles. Damn them. What the Monkees had that separates them from the Spice Girls and N'Sync were *great* songwriters. And in the end, they tried to make the whole thing legit by learning to play "their own instruments" and do their own thing--but by then the "Monkeemania" was really over. > In the beginning, that is true. But they did continue as a band, and some > of the members still tour together occassionally as a band. Well, as a first hand witness, this isn't exactly true. They still occasionally perform together as *singers* with a band. Which, is essentially what they were. Actors for a goofy (And occasionally politically satirical) TV show, and singers to a bunch of songs written by some really great songwriters. ciao, donna ~~I mean, give me somebody who wants to write great songs for *me*, and I'll make you an album in a heartbeat. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 00:01:08 GMT From: "Dorgon" Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll I'm guessing about 1600-1700 CDs and about 3000-3500 LPs and only about 500 or so tapes. Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 02:44:51 GMT From: PoppRoxx14@aol.com Subject: Re: OT: gelatin / agar hey now be nice to dentists b/c i'm goin to be a hygenist and i promice that i will not shred anyones gums....unless i have too of course but i will be nice about it ok?...ok! love light Erica ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 02:28:21 GMT From: zduemc@force9.net Subject: ***FREE MOBILE CALLS*** This works! 3433 Get it while you can.....dont know how long site will be up:) http://www.geocities.com/nutech2/payandgo.zip pblosmrdmmlyrqsynwynjksuzzjnez ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 03:57:38 GMT From: Maggie Deegan Subject: Re: OT but =?iso-8859-1?Q?fr=FCvous=2Drelated?= : D > *snip* > > > March 31? Doesn't that conflict with the GBS show in Buffalo at the > Tralf? well it does, but i *think* that GBS is playing April 1st in rochester at milestones... don't quote me on this, but i *think* check http://wber.monroe.edu and their concert calendar page :) - -- "I think it's like a different level in there... kinda trippy." ~ Vicky R. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #134 ********************************************