From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #70 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, February 5 2000 Volume 04 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... [leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender] Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... [Lisa Carpenter ] In defense of Champaign [Tim Cain ] Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... [=?iso-8859-1?q?Kyla?= ] Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... ["Colleen Anne McClanahan" ] Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... ["Ken Perschke" ] Re: fru-related: DVN at yale! ["Carey Farrell" ] Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... [Michael Castleman >do you think it is page 42? isn't 42 the answer to life, the universe, and everything? - -Bender - ---------------------------------- There are evil nuns from hell running around in my backyard. - --- Hillary Bender (the evil sister from hell) - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 05:02:03 GMT From: Lisa Carpenter Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... Melanie wrote: > >> Does that have anything to do with page 42 of Rosencrantz and > Guildenstern Are Dead?<< > > >>are you sure it's page 42?<< > > Do you think it's not on page 42? > do you think it is page 42? prarieFrü ******************** and these were our words our words were our songs these songs are our prayers these prayers keep me strong and i still believe..... ******************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 05:21:59 GMT From: Lisa Carpenter Subject: a distracting sociology class this past week in sociology we've been talking about social stratification and in every class there has been at least one Früvous refrence. on monday it the feudal system (kos), wednesday was capitalism (i love my boss, stuck, etc) and today was capitalism continued and there was talk of ...downsizing. >sigh< of course, none of the songs were actually mentioned, our prof. prefers to use examples from WW II, but my mind, and notes, are full of lyrics. why jot down defenitions that are in the book when you can scribble down some lyrics and giggle like a maniac? ok, i'm finished now, just felt like sharing . prarieFrü ******************** and these were our words our words were our songs these songs are our prayers these prayers keep me strong and i still believe..... ******************** suppose it would help if i read the book..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 05:39:21 GMT From: Tim Cain Subject: In defense of Champaign >>Someone earlier mentioned that they thought the Madison venue, The Barrymore would be similar to the last Champaign IL show. For those of you who put up with obnoxious drunks at the Champaign show, I can promise you that Madison fans are great. I go to shows here all the time from hardcore to folk & the people are cool - nothing like that show in Champaign. << Well, that would have been me saying it sounded similar to the Canopy Club in Champaign. I certainly didn't mean to imply that the crowd from the last Champaign show would charge up and again be obnoxious. I think anyone who's been to a Fruvous Champaign show would acknowledge the November crowd was as bad as it gets. (It was almost a carryover from the St. Louis show, it seemed.) I'd hasten to point out that two summers ago, the band played an in-store during which they got almost everybody in the place to SIT DOWN so all the poor saps in the back (like me) could actually see what was going on. I blame the November Champaign obnoxiousness on people from Missouri and Indiana crashing the show. (Hey, just kidding, but it was worth a shot.) - --tc ===== timcain@fruhead.com; http://www.webmart.net/~tcain1 "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." -- P.J. O'Rourke __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 06:01:58 GMT From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kyla?= Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... - --- Leah Bender wrote: > > > >do you think it is page 42? > > isn't 42 the answer to life, the universe, and everything? > isn't that the answer deep thought gave the philosophers? - -kyla- ===== canadan2@yahoo.com AIM: canadan2 ICQ: 37135028 ?:^) marion sez: hi everyone! - --a country rain on a city street this life is bittersweet-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 05:48:07 GMT From: neil@nospam.flipse.com (Neil Bardhan) Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... On 05 Feb 2000 05:21:35 GMT, leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender) wrote: >> >>do you think it is page 42? > >isn't 42 the answer to life, the universe, and everything? Has anybody else noticed the number 112 as being eerily prominent? Neil Neil Bardhan: neil@flipse.com | PGP user http://demon.ceh.servtech.com | Scrawny Ferret "More geese than swans now live, more fools than wise."--Orlando Gibbons ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 06:02:39 GMT From: Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... Kyla wrote in message <20000205055307.5180.qmail@web1606.mail.yahoo.com>... > > > >--- Leah Bender wrote: >> > >> >do you think it is page 42? >> >> isn't 42 the answer to life, the universe, and everything? >> >isn't that the answer deep thought gave the philosophers? Yep it certainly was. Before I read h2g2 I always wondered why the number 21 fascinated me as well as 123. Because 21 is half of 42 and I'm half a nut that makes perfect sense and so I understand half of life! 123 on the other hand, takes quite a bit longer to explain. I'm currently writing it all down and have about 3 essays or so. But LIS I'm a nutcase. - -- Cara Kozack "It's a reference to a _____ that you've never even heard of by\in a _____ that you probably don't even like." My e-mail at fruomffan@xoommail.com My world at http://www.crosswinds.net/~fruomffan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 06:48:28 GMT From: "Colleen Anne McClanahan" Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... Leah: >>do you think it is page 42? > >isn't 42 the answer to life, the universe, and everything? What's the question? Colleen Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 23:20:27 -0800 From: JaciTheLurker Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... >What's the question? is it a fru-question? Obligatory Homepage Plug: http://homepages.go.com/~janestclair1978/index.html "country line dancing -- not just for breakfast anymore" -- steven page * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 23:23:42 -0800 From: JaciTheLurker Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... >>>Yep it certainly was. Before I read h2g2 I always wondered why the number 21 fascinated me as well as 123. Because 21 is half of 42 and I'm half a nut that makes perfect sense and so I understand half of life! 123 on the other hand, takes quite a bit longer to explain. I'm currently writing it all down and have about 3 essays or so. But LIS I'm a nutcase. >>> statement! one - love Obligatory Homepage Plug: http://homepages.go.com/~janestclair1978/index.html "country line dancing -- not just for breakfast anymore" -- steven page * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 07:54:41 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: fru-related: DVN at yale! On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:38:04 -0500, "^kat^" wrote: >they *did* take "requests," though, in the middle... and we discovered that >paul performs a mean britney spears cover. yow. and for those of you who don't know the members of the groups, she means the Paul from DVN. :) Not me Paul (who is posting on Andrea's computer and is too lazy to change anything) who couldn't sing to save his life, and *wouldn't* sing Britney Spears to save his life :) Paul ------------------------------ Date: 05 Feb 2000 10:39:41 GMT From: bnljane1@aol.combnl (Resident Movie Critic) Subject: Re: hanging spoons from noses Sally, Aren't you just Gordonific, and lurking on two different NG's???? :-) Or am I mis-identifying? Good to see you if you are, Cheryl Cheryl Barenaked in Mass "I'm still learning things I ought to know by now"--Vertical Horizon www.angelfire.com/ma2/bnl1 BNL2K New Year's Eve pics up!! Remove "bnl" to email ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 12:58:55 GMT From: "Veronika Berchtold" Subject: OT, but very important to me: AUSTRIA hey, I am sorry to start to talk about political stuff over here. But I found out that Austria does not have a very good international possition. And a possition of a country can influence people to think the same way of ots people. That's why I ended up doing this. I lived in Austria all my life and grew up in a family who accepted political discussions. I think there are qwo kinds of people in Austria right now: the ones who think the other countries should leave us alone and that it is just our business, and the others who hope that the accutal government will lose its possition as soon as possible. I think all of my family is of the second groupe or at least I hope so. We had a good social system here in Austria, which will lose a lot. I would love to get some replies to this post because I want to know what you all guys think of "us" a desperate and sad Veronika Berchtold, who does not really know what to do ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 15:15:33 GMT From: Tmbg4life@aol.com Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... In a message dated 05-Feb-00 02:33:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, anneblytheNOanSPAM@juno.com.invalid writes: << >What's the question? is it a fru-question? >> No the question is "What is the question of life, the universe, and everything" (ahh my favorite book) and the answer just happens to be 42 (the answer took 500 million years or so to for a computer to compute) theres my doglas adams related post of the year ------------------------------ Date: 05 Feb 2000 15:16:38 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re: fru-related: DVN at yale! >Not me Paul (who is posting on Andrea's >computer and is too lazy to change anything) who couldn't sing to save >his life, and *wouldn't* sing Britney Spears to save his life :) FruCon is coming and my brain is fried so that post lead to this thought. You wouldn't sing Britney Spears to save your life, how about to avoid a beating? Imagine singing "Hit me Baby One More Time" to the rhythm of pounding fists" OK, its time for my Haldol now. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 15:22:01 GMT From: Sally Subject: Re: hanging spoons from noses Cheryl wrote: > Sally, > > Aren't you just Gordonific, and lurking on two different NG's???? :- ) Or am I > mis-identifying? Good to see you if you are, > > Cheryl > ABORT! abort! I have been mis-identified! I don't know who the other sally could be.... I only truly ever lurked on this list for about a day or so. But anyhoo, its nice to see that the name sally is gaining popularity since I'm the only sally I've ever known....that said, we must call out any untrue sallys(ies?). Truly make it the Sally-Inquisition or something.... I've already used way too many s's in this post. Maybe I'll lurk again for a while. Maybe not....... thank you for noticing....:) *sally* Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 16:00:47 GMT From: "Ken Perschke" Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... > > >>do you think it is page 42? > > > >isn't 42 the answer to life, the universe, and everything? > > > What's the question? > Aren't the question and answer mutually exclusive? Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:30:02 GMT From: "Daancing Queen" Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... > > >>do you think it is page 42? > > >isn't 42 the answer to life, the universe, and everything? > > What's the question? >Aren't the question and answer mutually exclusive? Is that what you think? What do you get when you multiply 6 times 9? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:33:22 GMT From: "Daancing Queen" Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... > << >What's the question? > is it a fru-question? >> > No the question is "What is the question of life, the universe, and >everything" (ahh my favorite book) and the answer just happens to be 42 >(the >answer took 500 million years or so to for a computer to compute) theres my >doglas adams related post of the year Statement! 2-Love (and that's not the question at all....go back and check - Deep Thought is looking for the meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything. The answer he comes up with is 42. It was then the job of Earth (our planet being a giant computer) to calculate the question - but it blew up minutes before the question was to be found out). Arthur discovers the question at the end of "Restaurant" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:34:20 GMT From: "Daancing Queen" Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... > > >Should we keep it to Frucontent? > > On a Früvous NG? Are you crazy? >Frucontent? what's Frucontent? Is that a pot or is it a tureen? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 18:07:36 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: OT, but very important to me: AUSTRIA Veronika Berchtold wrote: > > hey, I am sorry to start to talk about political stuff over here. But I > found out that Austria does not have a very good international possition. > And a possition of a country can influence people to think the same way of > ots people. That's why I ended up doing this. That's OK Veronika, we often have a lot of political discussions here. (Moxy Fruvous is a rather political band after all!) > I lived in Austria all my life and grew up in a family who accepted > political discussions. I think there are qwo kinds of people in Austria > right now: the ones who think the other countries should leave us alone and > that it is just our business, and the others who hope that the accutal > government will lose its possition as soon as possible. > I think all of my family is of the second groupe or at least I hope so. We > had a good social system here in Austria, which will lose a lot. > > I would love to get some replies to this post because I want to know what > you all guys think of "us" Woof. Well there is actually way too much to say if you take the topic as a whole, but here's a few thoughts I have: It is very unfortunate that the far right has suddenly gained so much power in Austria. Why do you think that is? Were things going so badly there that people have become desperate? I had no knowledge of anything like that. As far as the new government goes, I think everyone is over-reacting. I'm NOT happy about a right wing government coming to power in Austria, but I am not convinced that they will last very long, and I don't really see them as a threat. Heider is right when he asks how can Austria be a threat to Europe? They can't. Frankly I think the new government is more of a threat to Austrians than to the rest of Europe. While the formation of this new government does bare some international scrutiny, I think pulling out ambassadors and practically kicking Austria out of the EU is premature, inappropriate, and ill-advised. Premature because this new government is a legal, legitimate government which has not done anything improper yet. While Heider has made some rather poorly chosen and inappropriate remarks in the past, he HAS apologized for them (i.e. recanted them) and in any case, what has that to do with anything? He is not even in the government. Inappropriate because it is really not our place as non-Austrians to tell the Austrians how to conduct their democracy. Would we Americans sit still for other countries cutting off relations with us just because of who won an election? Would other countries DARE to do so? I seriously doubt it. Austria is suffering this fate partly because they are small enough that the world can AFFORD to cut them off. Ill-advised because I think the entire project could backfire. The Austrians could well become very pissed off at the rest of the world for this behavior and actually back the Freedom Party more fervently than they otherwise would out of frustration and a sense of national pride. Here is my theory: Frankly I think that everyone is over reacting partly because the Austrians are German speakers. I think that the idea of right-wing German speakers is more than the still-scarred psyche of Europe can handle. My evidence for this? If the same thing Happened in Spain, say a Christian Democrat/Fascist coalition, would the world react this way? No way. There would be some grumbling, and such a regime would be CAREFULLY watched, but nobody would cut them off, because Europe is used to living with a Fascist Spain. They don't have the same scary associations as they do with German or Austrian Fascism. > a desperate and sad Veronika Berchtold, who does not really know what to do Well, Veronika, all you really can do just now is watch and wait. Protest any government actions that you disagree with. Often we don't like our government either. I don't think Austria could possibly become another Nazi Germany, because people are too wary of that now. I can't believe the people would tolerate it. If anything WERE to start to happen that is truly improper, or a violation of human rights, then we can all start to worry. Until then I'd say just try to relax. This probably won't last. A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 12:43:06 -0500 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... Daancing Queen wrote: > > > > >Should we keep it to Frucontent? > > > On a Früvous NG? Are you crazy? > >Frucontent? what's Frucontent? > > Is that a pot or is it a tureen? That's not a TUREEN, it's a TUREEN! :) - -- lawrence solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "You knew it was true, when I held you, there were no secrets. I believed it." -Moxy Früvous, _I Will Hold On_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:52:43 GMT From: "Rodney K. Elin" Subject: Re: videotape policy On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 13:43:42 -0500, Chad Maloney wrote: >"A.J. LoCicero" wrote: >> > >> > [1] This isn't meant to be demeaning towards anyone, just an >> > observation. The "people" I'm inferring are AJ and Rodney >> This is the Rodney referenced in the above posting and I just wanted to say that we didn't get any special treatment from the band. I was unsure of videotapeing the show at all and when I left Lee's to get my video camera and equipment out of my trunk and I was fairly obvious when returning. The bouncers hardly glanced at me. I even went back and asked Tobey if it was OK if we videoed the show and he said as long as we weren't blocking anyone else's view or otherwise getting in their way. Thanks to Jason Reiser we got a fantastic sound feed going directly into the camera which is why the show came out so well. It was a fantastic experience as was the entire show AJ and I spent most of the day trying to figure out how to use our limited equipment to video the show without overloading the microphone inputs on my camera. We finally came up with a solution about an hour or so before the show was to start. I wish I had my taping equipment with me so I could offer tapes of the show again, but alas all my stuff is in storage in Washington Dc until I return. Which possibly will be in eight or nine more months of rehb.. - --Rodney I wish I visit my personal home page, a humorous look at marketing in today's siciety http://www.rff.org/~elin/Bananas.htm and please let me know what you think of it - -------------------- you'll have to remove the x from my reply-to address to properly reply to me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 18:28:07 GMT From: "Carey Farrell" Subject: Re: fru-related: DVN at yale! ^kat^ wrote: >but outside of the *obvious* fru-connections... paul, andrea & i were there >early enough to hear them soundchecking--and they soundchecked a *very* >fruvous-y a cappella version of "gotta get a message to you." sadly, they >didn't perform it during the show... but it's in their repertoire! Hee hee! My brother and I saw DVN over the summer in my hometown at the Frederick Festival of the Arts. I sort of had this feeling that they were gonna do a Fruvous cover, and at one point in the show I looked up, saw them standing in a row, and I heard the first few bars of a cappella Message in my head right before they began to sing it. It was very spooky. Then one of them pointed at me and said, "That girl, right there, knew what we were doing. As soon as we started singing, she went, [extremely swoony voice] 'They're doing the Moxy Fruvous version!'" Which was very cool, cos they proceeded to plug Fruvous to all the Frederick people, and then my brother borrowed my copy of Live Noise. OK, that's enough of my pathetic "claim to fame" story now, Carey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 13:56:10 -0500 From: Michael Castleman Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... Repetition, one point. Lisa Carpenter wrote: > > Melanie wrote: > > > >> Does that have anything to do with page 42 of Rosencrantz and > > Guildenstern Are Dead?<< > > > > >>are you sure it's page 42?<< > > > > Do you think it's not on page 42? > > > > do you think it is page 42? > > prarieFrü - -- Michael Castleman, mlc67@columbia.edu +1 (530) 686-8623 (voice mail/fax, 24hrs/day) 1651 Lerner Hall, New York, NY 10027 "The minority is always right." -- Henrik Ibsen ------------------------------ Date: 05 Feb 2000 19:22:14 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: Re: OT, headed towards T I'm sure..... >is it a fru-question? does it matter? "To believe that knowledge is ignorance is noble. To believe that ignorance is knowledge is evil." - -unknown "You'll have to lose your mind before you can come to your senses!" - -Socrates, Way of the Peaceful Warrior Gella ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #70 *******************************************