From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #992 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, December 3 1999 Volume 03 : Number 992 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [FAQ] alt.music.moxy-fruvous Frequently Asked Questions list (2/4) [Chad ] is it true that there's no one at all posting today .... [srm9988n@aol.c] Re: OT: Pat Buchanan [Melanie ] Re: Collingswood Car Disaster *EVERYONE'S FINE* [Spin0za1@aol.com] 12/4/99.....opener ["Hell Hotel" ] Re: Fishgirls WAS: Re: Fruheads unite and..Calm DOWN [srm9988n@aol.comicr] Re: 12.1.99 NYC review [Katrin@optelnow.net (Katrin L. Salyers)] Re: Village Voice blur on Fruvous [dmandeluxe@aol.com (Dmandeluxe)] Re: A Fruvous show is like sex in that... ["RayB" ] Re: A question for the american fans out there... [srm9988n@aol.comicreli] Re: Apology: fishgirls [Melanie ] Re: A Fruvous show is like sex in that... [Frances Meale Subject: [FAQ] alt.music.moxy-fruvous Frequently Asked Questions list (2/4) [Begin Part 2/4] Section: Basic Moxy Fruvous Information 1) Who is Moxy Fruvous? "Coming from Canada," a Toronto-based quartet of singer-songwriters who double as political satirists, comedians, social commentators, etc. The band includes Mike Ford (guitar, harmonica, bongos, keyboard, occasional drum kit and vocals), Murray Foster (bass, occasional drum kit, percussion, occasional guitar, and vocals), Jian Ghomeshi (drums, percussion, occasional guitar, and vocals), and Dave Matheson (guitar, accordion, banjo, keyboards, and vocals). They've been playing together as a group since about 1990 and are known for their experimentation, dabbling in genres from barbershop quartet to grunge, retro rock to rap, ballads to Saturday morning cartoons. See http://www.fruvous.com/band.html for the Fruvous Dot Com band bios. 2) What does "Moxy Fruvous" mean? Mike: Many, many people come up to us after shows and ask us "where'd you get your name"? Jian: Or sometimes, or more usually, it's "where'd you get your stupid name." What does "Moxy Fruvous" mean? Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Anything you want it to. "What is the sound of one hand clapping"? It's a couple of nonsense words, two great tastes that taste great together, a happy coincidence, a fun sound, and to fans' everlasting delight, some gibberish that lends itself imminently to wordplay. If you ask Fruvous what their name means, you're likely to get a strange look (or several) or a cryptic reply. 3) What is a Fruhead? How can I become a Fruhead? Fruvous is aware of and frequently acknowledges their follow-band status. Some fans of the band consider themselves "Fruheads" (which is a derivation of word Deadhead used to describe specific fans of the band The Grateful Dead, who followed them around creating a whole new social atmosphere around Dead shows in addition to the actual show itself). At its most basic, a Fruhead is usually a fan of the band who goes a bit beyond what normally comes with being a fan. Many Fruheads not only attend shows in their town, but travel to nearby or even faraway towns to see shows or attend multiple shows in a row on a tour. They support the band, buying albums and other merchandise, and usually recommend the band vehemently to their friends. The band likes to describe the Fruheads as the people who "get" their music and what they are doing and support it. Many times, the word Fruhead is used interchangeably with fan, though to some, "Fruhead" has more connotations than just a fan. There is no ritual, rite of passage, or letter of recommendation needed to become a Fruhead. Despite the description given for the six-stamp mark on the old Fruhead card, there is no prerequisite number of shows you need to attend before becoming a Fruhead. You simply need to consider yourself a member of the Fruhead community and be willing to accept that label upon yourself, knowing full well it means a boatload of things to different people. People who do not travel, but see each and every show in their city and support the band by buying albums are just as important as the crazy who drives to who-knows-where to see a show. The status of Fruhead does not raise someone into the inner circle of Frudom. If you consider yourself a Fruhead, congratulations. You are. 4) What is the "Fruhead Card"? In the Fruvous Quill #9 (their mailing list fan club newsletter, also on file on FDC at http://www.fruvous.com/quill.html ), they instituted the Fruhead Card, a means of keeping track of the number of shows a fan had attended. It ran through December 1997 and was stamped and dated at the merchandise table at each show. After 3 stamps, the fan received a pin; at 6, a t-shirt signed by Fruvous (not available for purchase); at 12, a compilation of their videos (including "King of Spain," "My Baby Loves a Bunch of Authors," "Stuck in the Nineties," "Fell in Love," "Down From Above," "Fly," and "Get in the Car"); at 18, a song composed, recorded, and mailed to them by the band; at 24, an all-expense-paid bowling trip with Fruvous; at 30, a dinner-and-dancing date with Dave; at 36, dinner and dancing with Mike, Jian, or Murray; and at 50, theoretically, a Fruvous ass-brand administered by the band. None of the songs have yet reached the fans - about forty obtained 18 stamps (though several people have been told that their songs are completed). About 20 people reached the 24 stamp mark, and many of them went on a bowling trip with Fruvous during the weekend of the First Annual Fruhead Convention (FruCon) held in Toronto in February 1998. The dinner dates haven't yet materialized and seem to be in rain check mode (no figures available on how many people reached each of those marks). Two people, though, reached the fifty-stamp mark; Dan "the Shadow" Jablonski respectfully declined the fleshly acknowledgment of his accomplishment, but the other, Chris O'Malley, received a tattoo of the budgie dog (paid for by Fruvous), on camera (and broadcast on Canadian television), right where it was stipulated. 5) What is the "Frumiles Card"? The Frumiles Card is the current reincarnation of the original Fruhead Card. It began in Fruvous Quill #12, and every subscriber to the Quill received a card. The system of rewards is similar, but one must accumulate Frumiles and "spend" them, instead of simply receiving the prize after X number of shows. The prizes this time are a Fruvous key fob for 300 miles, pin for 500, racing cap for 1000, campfire songbook for 1500, mint condition indie cassette for 2500, and bowling with the band and "treats" for 3000. Note that these theoretical miles have nothing to do with actual miles, and driving from Vancouver to a Boston show will likely net you one stamp on your card, worth 100 miles. A picture of the front of the Frumiles Card is available at http://www.fruvous.com/miscpics/milefron.jpg 6) My Frumiles Card expires at the "end of the millennium." Is that December 31st, 1999, or 2000? While Quill #12 states that "Stamps will be awarded for the duration of this millenium," the front of the Frumiles card clearly states 98/99 and members of the band and crew have said that the Frumiles Card ends its run at the end of 1999. 7) Where is the band currently touring? Tour information is included in each issue of the Fruvous Quill. Simply sign up on the band's mailing list and you will get the Quill twice a year. To get on the mailing list, check at the merch table at a show or email Jude at moxy@passport.ca and ask to be placed on the mailing list. If you are on the mailing list, the band will occasional send postcards to certain areas or all over to announce a stint of dates, usually as an addendum to the latest Quill. Fruvous Dot Com is also kept up-to-date with the latest tour info including additions and changes since the Quill went out. It also has venue information and links to venue web sites. The FDC Tour Page is found by following the Tour Dates link on the main page http://www.fruvous.com. The final say in tour date information comes from Jude Coombe, who holds down Moxy Fruvous Headquarters in Toronto ON. To get clarification on tour dates beyond what is listed on FDC, contact Jude at moxy@passport.ca or call her using the phone number listed on FDC in the Contacting Fruvous section at http://www.fruvous.com/contact.html. Fruvous has played in England, Scotland, and Denmark in the past, and recently have been touring more in Western Canada and the Western United States than in the past. Tour dates are usually more concentrated in the areas around Toronto ON, and in the Midwest and Northeast United States. 8) Why has the band toured more in the United States than in Canada lately? [Maintainer's Note: This question is a really an opinion question. I personally wasn't there when all this happened, though I have talked with some people about it. Colleen was not there either. Both our takes come from secondhand (or more) observations and shouldn't be taken as gospel. I left Colleen's answer in as well as adding my own to this so you can see both our opinions.] This is a tough question really. As of late, there has still been a bias towards the US, even though there have been tours including Western Canada for the first time in years. Jack Ross, the band's manager, said that with the release of _Thornhill_, he thought that the Canadian music industry may again be ready for Moxy Fruvous, and the touring schedule would reflect that thought for the _Thornhill_ tour. The bottom line is that touring is how the band makes money, and with the media reversal post-_Bargainville_ in Canada, the United States brought in crowds and the money it takes to keep them on the road. With the grassroots success they were seeing, they also found a growing fanbase that was very dedicated, in addition to some already dedicated Canadian fans. With _Thornhill_, it seems the band has branched out to a much larger area. Where they used to play 2 or 3 (and sometimes 4) times in some of their favorite cities, they now cover more area. They have toured in 98 and 99 in Western Canada and down the West Coast of the United States, including dates in Colorado. [Colleen Campbell's answer circa early-1998, from the original FAQ] Whooboy. Touchy question, but one that deserves at least an attempt at an answer on a FAQ, as it's been a frequently-asked-and-endlessly-discussed question on the newsgroup. Thus, a caveat: the writer of this FAQ, like the people reading it, is a person with an opinion which is informed by the facts she has gathered (definitely not all the facts on the matter which exist) and which does not necessarily represent the only answer or even the correct answer, if there is one. If you find this answer demeaning, offensive, or incorrect, please remember that it is not intended to be so and may not address your personal experience or beliefs in the matter. Given that, then: Fruvous is a band which had what Murray has called "meteoric" popularity in Canada with their indie tape and _Bargainville_: the former went gold and the latter went platinum. They covered Canada thoroughly on their "Bargainville" tour, but barely dipped into their southern neighbor, even in 1994, when the album was released in the States. Their following at the time, though, wasn't one known for longevity of interest or loyalty, consisting at least in part of "teenyboppers" who were more attracted to Fruvous' novelty work. Songs like "King of Spain" received a lot more attention than songs like "Fell in Love" did. In the States, though, there was little media attention to or radio play from _Bargainville_, so when the album was heard, it was probably taken more as a whole, novelty and serious songs both. When _Wood_ came out, the media machine didn't go into play as it had before in Canada, nor was audience response the same: the album hit only #35, Fruvous was playing to much smaller crowds, and there was little notice of it by critics, as there had been for _Bargainville_. In short, Fruvous probably felt like Canadian audiences had rejected it. In the States, although the album wasn't released, the songs from it were received as "another side of Fruvous" during concerts: audiences tended to have fewer expectations about Fruvous' "novelty" work than in Canada. So Fruvous built up a stronger base of support while touring to promote _Wood_ in America. Canadian media and audiences don't seem to be as aware that Fruvous is a group of evolution and experimentation, that they are not just "the band who went platinum back in '94"; meanwhile, in the States, the response to and coverage of Fruvous has been increasing since then. And America is a relatively new and fertile ground to till, for them: a place where they're still forging a name for themselves and can attract a new following, which is important for a band of their stature to do. They have been well-received at even the largest folk festivals in America, selling out of albums at both Falcon Ridge Folk Festival and Philly Folk Festival. This is not to say that they aren't appreciated in Canada (Dave reports that both nations are "duly impressed" with the latest [You Will Go To The Moon] album), or that this trend of fewer concerts there will continue indefinitely: just that Fruvous seems to be responding to their increasing popularity in the States by "giving the people what they ask for." 9) Why does the band frequently play at restricted venues that don't allow underage people in? They do not play age-restricted venues because the band hates all underage fans. That's simply not true. Moxy Fruvous, in addition to being an incredible band and 4 wonderful people, is a business and the livelihood of those 4 members (and other people who work with the band). They need to make money, and they do mainly by playing a lot of gigs across this continent. They, like many bands, have a booking agent that gets them gigs so that, in addition to writing wonderful music and thinking up silly characters, the band doesn't have to worry about calling clubs, arranging contracts, and making sure they are getting paid what they should. Many times, due to the economy of the live music industry, the only place to play in a given town on a given night is a bar. And, due to local, state or provincial, or national laws, there are just some rules that need to be obeyed. Age restriction is a big one. If this is still worrying you, or you want information about the above, read Appendix A right now. It's a detailed account from a different perspective of why age-restricted shows happen. All that said, what can you, the underage fan, do about it? Please do your research. Find some other venues in your area that regularly play all-ages shows and get that information to the band (most likely through Jude - moxy@passport.ca - at MFHQ). She will get that info to the right people, and it may work. It also may not. Just please keep in mind that when there is an age-restricted show, it isn't to spite you in particular or underage fans in general. It's usually because the club wants it that way and in order to play the club, the band abides by their rules. If you haven't read Appendix A yet, go do it. 10)* There seems to be frequent mention of taping at Fruvous shows and trading of those tapes. What's the band's policy on that? Well, obviously, the newsgroup respects Fruvous's right to their own music and performances, and fans would not tape against their wishes. Those interested should first look around at a show. If there are any other tapers there setting up, strike up a conversation and get to know them and what rules they abide by. If no one is visibly taping there, asking Cal Stanutz (the front of house sound engineer) or Dave Tobey (the road manager) is often easier than locating one of Fruvous before a show. The band currently allows and appreciates taping for non-commercial use on a personal level. The best way to get into taping Fruvous is to talk to other tapers at a show. Many of them know the band's position on things and may have tips and tricks on levels, show length, and board feeds. Most Fruvous tapers are very friendly beasts that would love someone to talk to about their myriad of gear. In dissemination of taped live shows, Fruvous prefers one-on-one trades. No profit is to be made of the privilege of taping their shows. Personal trading encourages a bit of accountability and it is recommended that you have purchased all the commercially available albums before getting into tape trading. There have been two Moxy Fruvous tape trees in the past. The first, disseminating a show from the Iron Horse in Northampton, August of 1995, was run by John Greene. The second, taped in New York City in December of 1996, was run by Jason Reiser. Both shows are widely available; ask for them, and you'll likely get a friendly Fruhead to tape one for you. There are, of course, many other live shows available, and many people are eager to trade or acquire them, so keep your eyes open and feel free to ask if you're looking for a particular show for your own personal use. FHDC ( http://www.fruhead.com ) has a section set up for finding tape traders. It provides quick info on people who collect shows and are willing to trade with new people. It also has a quick search engine that will search lists for specific shows. Please don't offer to pay someone (in money, extra tapes, or anything else) in return for copies of Fruvous live shows. This hurts the band and threatens the privilege tapers have to tape the shows. Fruvous allows taping for personal use only, and no one should be profiting off the tapes made with their permission. 11) Is there any connection between Moxy Fruvous and the soft drink Moxie? Nope. In fact, the guys have made derogatory remarks about the drink. Don't expect any cross-over advertising campaigns any time soon. Nor is there any connection between the '70s group Moxie, the '90s group Moxy, or the group Mox. 12) I ordered my merchandise four weeks ago from Fruvous and I haven't received it yet. What gives? Welcome to the world of shipping. Most ordering services stipulate that you'll receive your order within six to eight weeks, and Fruvous is no different. It'll take up to a week to receive your order, a few more weeks to get it processed and shipped back, and then a week or two more to receive your package. When customs is involved, other delays are likely as well. If you're concerned, though, that your merchandise seems to be taking an abnormally long time, you'd do well to contact Jude at MFHQ and ask her yourself. She's very busy, so if you need a quick reply, a call to (416) 368-5599 will probably yield better results than attempting to resolve the situation via email. 13) What's the best thing I can do to help support the band? The absolute best thing you can do to help support the band is to tell all your friends about them. If you feel that Moxy Fruvous is the best thing since sliced bread, tell your friends. Sit them down and ask them to take a listen to a song you think they'll like. Take them to a live show and let Fruvous do the selling for you. You can do the normal fan things. Go to Fruvous shows (and don't forget to invite friends). Buy Fruvous albums for yourself. You can also do the abnormal fan things that many Fruvous fans and Fruheads do. Drive to see that show in the next town over. Drive to see that show in the next Province over. Arrange your work flights so that you have a convenient stop-over in a city where Fruvous is playing that night. Please request Moxy Fruvous at your favorite (and least favorite) radio stations. If you are familiar with radio formats, AAA stations would probably be best. Call them up and request your favorite song or the current single off the newest album. If they give you the line about not having the album, email Jude ( moxy@passport.ca ) and give her the information about the station you called. She can make sure that a promo copy of some Fruvous stuff has been sent or will be sent there. Make the radio stations know that people out there want to hear Moxy Fruvous. When you go into a record store, check for Fruvous albums. Some people even go so far as to helpfully rearrange the albums so that the more important bands (i.e. Moxy Fruvous) are up front. We here at the FAQ don't condone this behavior, but do what you like! If you don't see any Moxy Fruvous CDs there at the store, ask them to order some for you. It'll give them an idea that people want to buy Fruvous albums. If you already own the disc, just tell them you found it at their competitor's store already in stock and bought it there, but thank them for ordering it for you and reassure them you'll check there next for other Moxy Fruvous albums now that they've gotten their act together. Also, you can forward record store info to Jude ( moxy@passport.ca ) and she can get that info to the record label so they can use that information to get the album well distributed. Each person's work in helping and supporting the band is important. Moxy Fruvous was built upon grassroots efforts and friendly word of mouth and that comes from you. Keep up the good work! 14) What's the story behind "The Troc"? What happened? The Troc, or the Trocadero, is a club in downtown Philadelphia. Philly is a very Fruvous-friendly town and the home of WXPN. Fruvous plays many large sold out shows in Philly and it's one of their biggest markets, largely thanks to the support WXPN gives them through airplay and promotion. The band has played in the area for years. FDC tracks shows back to 1994 at the Tin Angel. In 1996, they started playing in Philly at the TLA, the Theatre of Living Arts, a much larger venue than the Tin Angel and a symbol of their success in the Philadelphia area. After 3 gigs in the next year at the TLA (including one of the shows recorded for the _Live Noise_ album), the band had outgrown even that venue. The next choice of venues was the Trocadero. It was significantly larger than the TLA, but still the show was sold out even before the day of the show. Yet another statement of the Philly area's love for Fruvous. That Trocadero show on February 6th, 1999 is a show that will live in infamy in many Frufan minds. The show itself was a very good show. The larger venues carry better lighting and sound equiptment allowing for the band to rock out a bit. But the place was packed solid for the most part and there were long waits while your elbows jabbed your neighbor and the person behind you breathed down your neck. The opener, the Butch Ross Band, started playing before even half the line had come in yet there was an interminable wait between sets stirring the crowd up. But still, Fruvous pulled everyone together with an incredible set. After the show was a different story. The club, well within it's rights but entirely against the spirit of a Moxy Fruvous show, proceeded to quickly and forcefully push the entire crowd out the doors. People trying to get Frumiles stamps from Tobey were hurried. People trying to purchase Fruvous CDs or shirts were hurried. People waiting patiently to get autographs because they knew the band was coming out to give them were hurried, various members of the club's security staff yelling the entire time. It is understandable that the staff wants to go home after a show, but the way the fans were treated was unacceptable. Many fans ended up out on the sidewalks on a February night waiting (some vocally), while the security staff attempted to even force them off the sidewalk in front of the building. One by one, as each band member realized what had happened, they came out to the front of the venue to sign autographs and chat with fans. The band apologized for the actions of the venue and cheerfully talked and signed, even after a long show after a long day. But, when the band wanted to go back inside, the security had locked them out as well! Once someone came out, someone else caught the door and held it open so the band could get back inside when needed and eventually everyone went home with a sour taste in their mouths thanks to the security staff and policies of the Trocadero. The next day, the newsgroup began to fill with discussions of the show and disgust at how paying customers of the venue were treated. Many called for boycotts of the Trocadero and expressed wishes that Moxy Fruvous never play there again. The show reviews on FDC represent a taste of the discussions ( http://www.fruvous.com/99rev/990206.html ). After a day full of complaints on the newsgroup, Jian posted an official apology from the band, management, and crew for the staff at the Trocadero and promised that the band will not play the Trocadero in Philadelphia ever again (instead he offered the idea of playing multiple TLA shows even though the venue is much smaller). The incident received press in the Philly area ( http://www.fruvous.com/news/990211nw.html ). With no suitable venue in Philadelphia itself, the next Philly area show came in November 1999 - a sold-out show at the Keswick Theater about 20 minutes outside Philly. Section: Mike, Murray, Jian, and Dave 1) On stage, who is who? In standard position, the lads on stage are (from left to right): Murray, Jian, Mike, Dave. Murray wears the stylish shirts and usually is found playing the bass. Jian is the self-proclaimed (and born that way) "brown guy" with black curls usually behind the stand-up drum kit. Mike is the crazy Kirk Cameron looking guy usually found with a guitar. Lastly, Dave is the bald one with the accordion, banjo, or guitar. From their standard positions on stage, stage left (or left when you are standing on stage looking at the audience) has been deemed "Stage Dave" while stage right has been called "Stage Murray." People standing towards the middle can be "Stage Jian" and "Stage Mike." 2) Why is Jian's name written as Jean in liner notes and older articles? "Jian Ghomeshi" is the original spelling of his name. When his family moved to Canada in his youth, his mother changed it to "Jean," perhaps because it seemed easier to pronounce that way; but it's always been, officially, "Jian" (including on his driver's license), his friends have always known him as "Jian," and he's been spelling it "Jian" across the board for a good while now. 3) How do you pronounce Jian Ghomeshi? Jian's heritage is Persian (Iranian). It's not possible to exactly reproduce the phonetic sound of his name in English letters, but "ZHEE-on" comes closest (where that ZH is kinda like the Z sound from Zsa Zsa Gabor). Ghomeshi is pronounced like it's spelled - "go-MESH-ee." 4) Is Dave gay? bisexual? How about Murray? Jian? Mike? The matters of the band members' personal lives are NOT something for this FAQ to discuss. The band, being open-minded individuals, do bring up sexual preference occasionally on stage, usually through jokes that may be unsettling to members of the audience that aren't so comfortable with it. The other members of Moxy Fruvous frequently tease Dave onstage about proclivities other than strictly heterosexual. "Lee," from _You Will Go to the Moon_, is sung by Dave and can be interpreted to be voiced by a gay man to a lover dying of AIDS. Dave is usually nodded at by Jian during the word "gays" from the line "paranoid minorities, and gays" from "Greatest Man in America." Jian frequently dons a bright orange shirt proclaiming "I dig your boyfriend" for shows; he also alters lyrics, such as saying "I was looking straight" instead of "straight ahead" in "My Baby Loves a Bunch of Authors." Mike, during a break in "the Kid's Song" where he says "my sister has 3 gender biases" on _the B album_, sometimes says "she's trisexual" live. But the bottom line here is that it is none of your business. If you feel it is your business, take it up with the band members themselves and see what they have to say. It is inappropriate for the newsgroup to discuss such things. [End Part 2/4] ------------------------------ Date: 02 Dec 1999 19:38:15 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: is it true that there's no one at all posting today .... ... or is my newsreader royally f*ed up? Just wondering. Consider this a test. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:12:43 GMT From: Melanie Subject: Re: OT: Pat Buchanan >just checking to see if I have my newsreader setup right. >why are you reading this anyway? Actually, I'm checking on something too and figured no one would read this thread. melanie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:10:52 GMT From: Spin0za1@aol.com Subject: Re: Collingswood Car Disaster *EVERYONE'S FINE* My mother works at a day camp and she always taught me that when calling a kids parent it is important to start with (name here) is fine... but... and you get the idea. Ever fallen off a mountain in a car? It's not fun. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Dec 1999 11:36:52 GMT From: "Hell Hotel" Subject: 12/4/99.....opener This saturday fruvous is playing Northern Lights in Clifton Park...does anyone know who is opening for them? My girlfriend said she heard an ad for it on EQX but couldn't remember who was opening. Just wondering. thanks - -EricJ ------------------------------ Date: 02 Dec 1999 00:10:02 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Fishgirls WAS: Re: Fruheads unite and..Calm DOWN That Bastard said to Frunique: > you didn't do anything foolish in Toronto. You seemed like a very >conservative, calm, and shy girl :-) albeit one who gave great shirt. - -- Lori ***************** looking for a Frunique-shirt-like dress for NYE. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:52:42 -0700 From: Katrin@optelnow.net (Katrin L. Salyers) Subject: Re: 12.1.99 NYC review In article <826go0$8ee$1@news.ycc.yale.edu>, katherine.kunz@yale.edu says... > (as long as jian isn't killing *k*ats, we're fine) However, if you guys stop hearing from me anytime soon, start worrying. k@ - -- "Don't be ashamed to say what you are not ashamed to think." - Michel de Montaigne ------------------------------ Date: 02 Dec 1999 08:32:03 GMT From: dmandeluxe@aol.com (Dmandeluxe) Subject: Re: Village Voice blur on Fruvous << Bitchy, I know. But SO satisfying. >> Bitchy? Pretty mild and good restraint. Had I I written that letter to the editor, I would have called the reviewer the most oh-so-hip sexually frustrated cocksucker in jounarlism ....... or maybe that's William Saffire..... I get them mixed up all the time ..... fuckers .... Mikey .... who obviously busts a gasket when good people get busted on ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:49:32 -0600 From: "RayB" Subject: Re: A Fruvous show is like sex in that... ...I never know when the next time it will be within driving distance to me? RayB ------------------------------ Date: 01 Dec 1999 19:24:29 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: A question for the american fans out there... Veronica said: >Only those from areas other than Vancouver, Montreal, or southern Ontario >are real Canadians? Since when?! > >:) Veronica (only partially insulted on behalf of all of us from Southern >Ontario) Hey Trombone Girl, does this mean you're Proud To Be (fake) Canadian? - -- Lori, even faker, and damn proud of it. ***************** she's awfully nice to strangers, her manners be her curse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:21:03 GMT From: Melanie Subject: Re: Apology: fishgirls kevin wrote: >>I just want to formally apologize for the number of rants which I seem to have generated by my use of the fishgirl term. I did a poor job of explaining who I meant by fishgirl.<< Actually, Kevin, I've enjoyed reading the discussions. And if someone didn't rant here, they might end up kicking the dog. :-) melanie (who also must try and do something productive after acting out the Christmas story with 80 3, 4, and 5 year olds today. *whew*) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 21:16:02 -0500 From: Frances Meale Subject: Re: A Fruvous show is like sex in that... ...in that sometimes, you need a break from being taped. :-) FM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:24:41 -0700 From: Katrin@optelnow.net (Katrin L. Salyers) Subject: Re: A Fruvous show is like sex in that... In article <824eve$32f4$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>, jesmore@prodigy.net says... > ....Tobey stamps me. > --Novac ...I try to keep track of what my spouse is doing, even when I'm actually concentrating on the band. - - k@ - -- "Don't be ashamed to say what you are not ashamed to think." - Michel de Montaigne ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #992 ********************************************