From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #955 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, November 17 1999 Volume 03 : Number 955 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Cincinnati stuff... [Josh Woodward ] New Fr Postcard [SnarkiFru ] Re: Robertson Davies [kierney ] Re: Announcement [ACW ] Re: Butch Ross (was Re: opening acts) [Victorria Johnson ] Some Starbucks Humor [Frumanchu ] Yay! The Gateway is back! ["Saphira Cat" ] Lowest Prices On New & Used Games 5293 [jhpzmv@yahoo.com] Re: one hundred years of solitude [Sanjita Nag <7sn5@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: New Fr Postcard [=?iso-8859-1?Q?FR=FCSTAR?= ] Richardson's Roundup [Queen Lisa ] re: Organ Grinder [CheesemonkeyGem ] Re: Charleston (this'll be quick! :) ["Stephanie Hodges" Subject: Re: Cincinnati stuff... Bodaceah wrote: : I have been stuck in NO MEGA CD mode lately. Would anyone happen to have a : tape of this show? Did the song have the same strength with only two if them : as opposed to all four? Please i need the inspiration. I thought it was way better with just the two of them. I always hated the live arrangement of it, but with the new Jian and Mike on acoustics I liked it. Mike was doing a lot more in the way of fills, and the distorted banjo wasn't there to muddy things up even more. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josh Woodward joshw@fruhead.com Fruhead.Com Webmaster http://www.fruhead.com/ Personal Web Site & Tape List: http://www.fruhead.com/joshw/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:36:04 GMT From: SnarkiFru Subject: New Fr Postcard Well, in the likely event that this might make it to someone out there in ammf land... I got me a new postcard in the mail today... YAY!! *spoiler* if you want to wait until you get your own card... read no further! Its another Thornhill picture... with the guys sitting on a brick railing while Mike is leaning against a wall. He's looking out into the distance, towards the right... no doubt sharing more of his unique Fordian wisdom... while Dave, Jian and Murray look at him and laugh... same series of pix from the Thornhill Liner shots. Dates on the back from Nov - Feb... all I have to say is, "JeSUS!!! FOUR (4) Lee's Palace Dates' the weekend of the 19th? oye!" Certainly is going to make for an interesting FruCon... *sigh* - --Angie the Access'd out! ...there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path... - --Morpheus The Matrix ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:14:02 -0500 From: kierney Subject: Re: Robertson Davies just finished this one and i LOVED it. "R. Christopher Andrew Bailey" wrote: > A Prayer for Owen Meany is awesome! Read that one. > > -- > _______________________________________ > R. Christopher A. Bailey > (aka: Andy, Bart) > My Music: http://paintedblue.homepage.com > My Resume: http://flyingturtle.homepage.com > Tom Fazzio wrote in message > news:382528A6.2396991E@bitsmart.com... > > Chrissy wrote: > > > > > I was at Barnes and Noble the other day looking for a new book (finally > settled > > > on John Irving's The World According To Garp > > > > can't say that I read the book, but I did really enjoy the movie! I never > even > > heard of that title until the beginning of this semester when a friend > rented the > > movie (starring Robin Williams) and we watched it - I would recommend it > to anyone > > who doesn't read books but if you have the time you should probably read > the book > > instead, it's healthier, right? =) > > > > later, > > tom. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:50:55 -0800 From: ACW Subject: Re: Announcement In article <80s2bk$7ar$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Ellen wrote: > In article , > moxy@passport.ca (Moxy Fruvous) wrote: > > Hello everyone in Fruland! > > > > This is just a quick note to let you all know that taping will > not be > > allowed at this week's Fruvous shows. > I smell a new live album. I think I'm the only person who's cynical about the no taping thing. I really hope I'm wrong, but I don't see too much new material since they've been on the road constantly this last year; a new live album is unlikely since the last one lost money; exceptional setlists, well, Pgh didn't look exceptional, just slightly different. I don't even know what I'd consider an exceptional setlist any more. I'm all moody this week, and I'm sure that has as much to do with my cynicism as reality. OTOH, I'm glad I have tickets to most of these shows that won't be recorded for posterity. - --Amanda, on another tour binge, this time based from home...yay! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:38:50 -0500 From: Victorria Johnson Subject: Re: Butch Ross (was Re: opening acts) Hey Chad! Near played with Mike Dutton on Halloween and had a great time...I love his songwriting...he's got mp3s at amp3.net/mikedutton. Check him out... Victorria Chad Maloney wrote: > Michykith wrote: > > > > >So. Anyone else have a favorite opener? > > > > I'd say Butch Ross Band at that unspeakable venue in Philly last February. > > They were really energetic and had a violin player! > > > > Unfortunately, I've been trying to get out to see Butch Ross playing locally, > > and just am always too busy :( > > Speaking as the person from Indiana on Butch's announcement email list > which is ever so entertaining and speaking as someone who also enjoyed > Butch's set at the Troc, I'll drop a plug. The Butch Ross Band is having a > CD release party at Upstairs at Nicks on Saturday Nov 13th starting > at 10pm. Now, contrary to what Mary Krause may have beleived at one > point or another, I'm not from Philly. But the long list of people > Butch lists that are gonna be there looks fun. > > To quote Butch himself: > "The list -and it is as inclusive as memory serves me right now is- Ben > Arnold, Mike Dutton, Stargazer Lily, Jim Boggia, Todd Young, EDO (reforming > for this gig), Amber deLaurentis, Mark Sand, Rich Kelly, Brian Seymour, Jen > Hess, Smudging Eyeliner, Lenny Molotov, Lach, Mike Leo, and of course sets > from Adam [Brodsky] and myself." > > So all you Philly people, get out and check out Butch and buy some > CDs. Or say something stupid to him. Really anything that'll get him > to send more announce email is good because it's durned entertaining. > Maybe public nakedness will work. > > - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 13 Nov 1999 04:56:51 GMT From: garitrn@aol.com (Garit RN) Subject: 4 MF Minidisc Masters to Trade Hello all, It's been about a year or so since I've posted about trading, so read carefully! =) I've recorded several shows in the past year with my Sony Minidisc Recorder MZ-R30 and trusty Sony digital mic. I'm now looking to expand my collection with A quality 1st generation MD clones of shows that I enjoy. So help me out, okay? I will not trade for blanks or postage or your firstborn so please don't ask. Feel free to browse the list below and email me if you're interested.....I will also consider trading for A quality bootleg videos and A quality episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000 that I haven't seen (mostly the ones from the last two seasons). Bye bye, Larry Larry's Minidisc Bootleg List Barenaked Ladies 4/4/97 - San Diego, CA - 4th&B - 100min - B - from analog master 10/1/98 - Pittsburgh, PA - 100min - B 11/2/98 - San Diego, CA - SDSU - 100min - Master - A 11/3/98 - Universal City, CA - Universal Amphitheatre - 60min - Master - A (incomplete, thanks to battery falling out of my MD recorder) 12/11/98 - Los Angeles, CA - Shrine Auditorium (KROQ Acoustic Christmas) - Master - B 8/17/99 - Irvine, CA - Irvine Meadows - 100min - A Ben Folds Five 6/10/99 - Hollywood, CA - Palladium - 90min - A- Candy Butchers 6/26/99 - New York City, NY - Guinness Fleadh on Randall's Island - 45min - Master - A- 8/18/99 - Irvine, CA - Levis' Side Stage (Irvine Meadows) - 50min - Master - A 10/5/99 - West Hollywood, CA - Viper Room - 50min - Master - A Cardigans 11/9/98 - West Hollywood, CA - Troubadour - 40min - Master - A Elvis Costello and Steve Nieve 5/30/99 - San Diego, CA - Copley Symphony Hall - Master - 120min - B+ 6/1/99 - Los Angeles, CA - Wilern Theatre - Master - 120min - B+ 6/2/99 - Los Angeles, CA - Wiltern Theatre - Master - 120min - B+ 6/6/99 - Phoenix, AZ - Celebrity Theater - Master - 120min - A- 6/26/99 - New York City, NY - Guinness Fleadh - Master - 90min - A 10/2/99 - Los Angeles, CA - Wiltern Theatre - Master - 140min - A Great Big Sea 6/24/98 - Universal City, CA - Universal Amphitheatre - 25min - Master - A 4/15/99 - West Hollywood, CA - Troubadour - 95min - Master - A Moxy Fruvous 9/28/98 - San Francisco, CA - Slim's - 110min - Master - B 10/30/98 - Boston, MA - Iron Horse - 120min - B - The Story of BJ - from DAT master 10/31/98 - Boston, MA - Iron Horse - 120min - B - All covers show - from DAT master 1/7/99 - West Hollywood, CA - Roxy - 100min - Master - A 5/99 - Hoboken, NJ - Maxwell's - 100min - from DAT Master - A 6/8/99 - West Hollywood, CA - House of Blues - 45min - Master - A 10/18/99 - Seattle, WA - Tractor Tavern - 100min - Master - A Save Ferris 6/3/99 - West Hollywood, CA - Troubadour - 60min - Master - A Squirrel Nut Zippers 8/5/98 - San Diego, CA - 4th & B - 80min - Master - A 8/6/98 - Irvine, CA - Virgin Megastore rooftop - 30min - Master - A They Might Be Giants 9/28/98 - San Juan Capistrano - Coach House - 100min - Master - A 9/24/99 - San Diego, CA - 4th&B - 100min - Master - A 9/27/99 - West Hollywood, CA - House of Blues - 80min - Master - A (incomplete) 9/28/99 - West Hollywood, CA - House of Blues - 90min - Master - A Martha Wainwright 9/11/99 - Los Angeles, CA - Largo - 40min - Master - A 9/15/99 - Los Angeles, CA - Largo - 60min - Master - A Rufus Wainwright 12/7/98 - Los Angeles, CA - The Conga Room - 90min - Master - A 4/16/99 - Hollywood, CA - Henry Fonda Theater - 70min - Master - A ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:17:21 -0500 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Pittsburgh review and stuff!!! Just got back from Graffiti's, where Früvous were excellent and the audience was... not so excellent. lots of drunks being rowdy and continually heckling them. the first time is funny. after about 10 times it gets *really* old. not to mention there was someone insisting on fondling me during Michigan Militia, while I insisted on looking forward and seeing the band... anyway... the set was... interesting, to say the least. there were about 8 songs that they did in February, and all the rest different. Video Bargainville - dance remix, usual "sometimes a guy just wants to dance" intro. BJ Don't Cry - I was surprised to hear this. I heard the intro and wasn't quite sure whether it was going to be Splatter Splatter or BJ, but it was good... the last line had something to do with the Steelers (apparently they are unaware that the football team's name in Pittsburgh is actually pronounced "Stillers" :) Also, one of the accordion straps was broken, so Tobey brought a chair out and Dave played this one sitting down. (they fixed the strap later) Improv - "The people on the left... the people on the right..." Intra-Pittsburgh rivalry... LONG improv about the balcony setup at Graffiti's - - there are left and right balconies, and a floor in the middle... they separated the people into groups... (like last time :) Half as Much - what is there to say about Half as Much? I've heard it a LOT recently... I like it, but that's about all I can really say. Independence Day - haven't heard this one in quite a while. Very well done. Love the harmonies. Sad Girl - Another one they didn't do in February. Some topic distracted them and it took a while to get to it for some reason. I forget what they were talking about. Lazy Boy - about a guy from the other side of the border who just sits around... King of Spain - with the usual intro - there aren't a lot of Früheads in Pittsburgh, so there were a lot of newcomers. But they did the whole intro thing, although before the ending, Murray asked if he could leave, because he actually wasn't curious, having heard the ending before. Green Eggs and Ham - short version, a little bit during the Beatles part... Mike making some weird noises for the "look what you did to him!" Boo Time - a few local references, but falling back on "Smokin' a little boo with the Früvous crew" for the repeat. still fun. It's Too Cold - surprise! but appropriate, given the weather here. :) lots of people in the audience seemed very appreciative of this one. Splatter Splatter - different from the last time, that's for sure. in February it was the fast version with piano and electric guitar. You Will Go to the Moon - it's good to see this one coming back. Enjoyable for those of us who have seen them a lot, and definitely something good to get the newcomers into things. Misplaced - that's right. Misplaced. Introduced as being played "twice in the last four years" but with a much shorter story than Annapolis, and an alternate title given as something to the effect of "I fucked up. It's my fault." No violin this time, but Mike played harmonica and Dave was at the piano. Jian forgot some of the lyrics, but that's ok. It's still a wonderful song. (although it was strange for those of us in the front who could hear the guitar amp directly - the electric guitar was oddly loud) Present Tense Tureen - for the second verse, Dave just stopped playing the banjo due to sound issues, and it sounded interesting. not as empty as one would expect without the banjo, either. (also, it was met with many cries of "BANJO!" from the hecklers) Johnny Saucep'n - intro about food, lots of audience participation River Valley Get in the Car - always a fun combo. Psycho Killer - ugh. too much heckling during the quiet intro. what can I say? it was the end of the show. people were drunk. First encore it turned out that someone in the audience was there for their birthday, *and* their name happened to be Tricia, and her people were shouting her name and they introduced the song saying something like "We knew... we've been waiting for it..." and played Michigan Militia. During the song, her friends lifted her onto the stage, and she, seeming quite drunk, didn't realize that she wasn't really supposed to be there.... Next encore... I Will Hold On My Poor Generation - this is a great way to close the set. And a good transition for these two songs. Hmmm... this isn't much of a review, I guess... I think from now on, I'll just post setlists if they haven't been posted already. I can't ever think of that much to say about the shows that's worth a whole post... :) so, uh... I'll see everyone in Harrisburg and Philly, I guess. :) - -- lawrence solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "You knew it was true, when I held you, there were no secrets. I believed it." -Moxy Früvous, _I Will Hold On_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:27:12 GMT From: Frumanchu Subject: Some Starbucks Humor I got this forwarded to me from a jokelist this morning. Thought all you anti-Starbucks people would appreciate this...I did:) *** Dissent on Starbucks by Jackie Mason Starbucks is the best example of a phony status symbol that means nothing, but people will still pay 10x as much for because there are French words all over the place. You want coffee in a coffee shop, that's 60 cents. But at Starbucks, Cafe Latte: $3.50. Cafe Cremier: $4.50. Cafe Suisse: $9.50. For each French word, another four dollars. Why does a little cream in coffee make it worth $3.50? Go into any coffee shop; they'll give you all the cream you want until you're blue in the face. Forty million people are walking around in coffee shops with jars of cream: "Here's all the cream you want!" And it's still 60 cents. You know why? Because it's called "coffee." If it's Cafe Latte - $4.50! You want cinnamon in your coffee? Ask for cinnamon in a coffee shop; they'll give you all the cinnamon you want. Do they ask you for more money because it's cinnamon? It's the same price for cinnamon in your coffee as for coffee without cinnamon - 60 cents, that's it. But not in Starbucks. Over there, it's Cinnamonnier - - $9.50. You want a refill in a regular coffee shop, they'll give you all the refills you want until you drop dead. You can come in when you're 27 and keep drinking coffee until you're 98. And they'll start begging you: "Here, you want more coffee, you want more, you want more?" Do you know that you can't get a refill at Starbucks? A refill is a dollar fifty. Two refills, $4.50. Three refills, $19.50. So, for four cups of coffee - $350. And it's burnt coffee. It's burnt coffee at Starbucks, let's be honest about it. If you get burnt coffee in a coffee shop, you call a cop. You say, "It's the bottom of the pot. I don't drink from the bottom of the pot. But when it's burnt at Starbucks, they say, "Oh, it's a blend. It's a blend." It's a special bean from Argentina....." The bean is in your head. And there're no chairs in those Starbucks. Instead, they have these high stools. You ever see these stools? You haven't been on a chair that high since you were two. Seventy-three year old Jews are climbing and climbing to get to the top of the chair. And when they get to the top, they can't even drink the coffee because there's 12 people around one little table, and everybody's saying, "Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me....." Then they can't get off the chair. Old Jews are begging Gentiles, "Mister, could you get me off this?" Do you remember what a cafeteria was? In poor neighborhoods all over this country, they went to a cafeteria because there were no waiters and no service. And so poor people could save money on a tip. Cafeterias didn't have regular tables or chairs either. They gave coffee to you in a cardboard cup. So because of that you paid less for the coffee. You got less, so you paid less. It's all the same as Starbucks - no chairs, no service, a cardboard cup for your coffee - except in Starbucks, the less you get, the more it costs. By the time they give you nothing, it's worth four times as much. Am I exaggerating? Did you ever try to buy a cookie in Starbucks? Buy a cookie in a regular coffee shop. You can tear down a building with that cookie. And the whole cookie is 60 cents. At Starbucks, you're going to have to hire a detective to find that cookie, and it's $9.50. And you can't put butter on it because they want extra. Do you know that if you buy a bagel, you pay extra for cream cheese in Starbucks? Cream cheese, another 60 cents. A knife to put it on, 32 cents. If it reaches the bagel, 48 cents. That bagel costs you $312. And they don't give you the butter or the cream cheese. They don't give it to you. They tell you where it is. "Oh, you want butter? It's over there. Cream cheese? Over here. Sugar? Sugar is here." Now you become your own waiter. You walk around with a tray. "I'll take the cookie. Where's the butter? The butter's here. Where's the cream cheese? The cream cheese is there." You walked around for an hour and a half selecting items, and then the guy at the cash register has a glass in front of him that says "Tips." You're waiting on tables for an hour, and you owe him money. Then there's a sign that says please clean it up when you're finished. They don't give you a waiter or a busboy. Now you've become the janitor. Now you have to start cleaning up the place. Old Jews are walking around cleaning up Starbucks. "Oh, he's got dirt too? Wait, I'll clean this up." They clean up the place for an hour and a half. If I said to you, "I have a great idea for a business. I'll open a whole new type of a coffee shop. A whole new type. Instead of 60 cents for coffee I'll charge $2.50, $3.50, $4.50, and $5.50. Not only that, I'll have no tables, no chairs, no water, no busboy, and you'll clean it up for 20 minutes after you're finished." Would you say to me, "That's the greatest idea for a business I ever heard! We can open a chain of these all over the world!" No, you would put me right into a sanitarium. Starbucks can only get away with it because they have French titles for everything, Nazi bastard son-of-a-bitches. And I say this with the highest respect, because I don't like to talk about people. *** - -- "His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of morbid curiosity." --Actual quote from Federal employee performance evaluations Send reply to Frumanchu AT hotmail DOT com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:27:06 GMT From: "Saphira Cat" Subject: Yay! The Gateway is back! Ok, first thing, I switched e-mail accounts for my NG mail, so SaphiraCat@birdlover.com is no longer there. Second thing, I came home from school today not really expecting any mail, and instead I get 250 messages. That's (5^2)*10. It's also a whole heck of a lot. I want to thank Leah (Bender)for keeping me updated. THANKS!!! Alright, back to lurking. *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* Saph "Count to 10 if your angry, count on me if you're sad." - -Trout Fishing In America Here comes the plug! http://www.geocites.com/saphiracat *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* - ------------------------------------------------------------ * http://www.bombdiggity.com/ * Yeah, baby, YEAH! ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 04:42:14 -0800 From: jhpzmv@yahoo.com Subject: Lowest Prices On New & Used Games 5293 Biggest Selection Of Computer Games http://windycity.getto.net/ ufudhkmjfdzvnxvhxxkxdjgfgdspppsmqxylyhwwepvrbjifbxlrbqcqeunqdhhjntevteoyt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:08:34 GMT From: Sanjita Nag <7sn5@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: one hundred years of solitude > Sara wrote: > On the otherhand, I've been struggling for two months trying to read One Hundred Years of Solitude, and haven't gotten anywhere - maybe it's a bad translation, or maybe it just hasn't grabbed me, I don't really know. I think I'll have to put it away and come back to it another time. Anyone else read it? > > I did it's alot of reading but if you get a good translation it's a very worthwhile read > andi > It took me a long time to get through One Hundred Years of Solitude. I couldn't get past the first 1/3rd of the book first time around. I put it down for six months and then tried again in the summertime, when my mind was free of school stuff. It is a difficult read, and it takes a while to get your head around the "magic realism" genre. But at least it was interesting. Sanjita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:39:37 GMT From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?FR=FCSTAR?= Subject: Re: New Fr Postcard I too got the postcard today, and it is really awesome. YAY!!! anna SnarkiFru wrote: > Well, in the likely event that this might make it to someone out there in ammf > land... > > I got me a new postcard in the mail today... YAY!! > > *spoiler* if you want to wait until you get your own card... read no further! > > Its another Thornhill picture... with the guys sitting on a brick railing > while Mike is leaning against a wall. He's looking out into the distance, > towards the right... no doubt sharing more of his unique Fordian wisdom... > while Dave, Jian and Murray look at him and laugh... same series of pix from > the Thornhill Liner shots. > > Dates on the back from Nov - Feb... all I have to say is, "JeSUS!!! FOUR (4) > Lee's Palace Dates' the weekend of the 19th? oye!" Certainly is going to > make for an interesting FruCon... *sigh* > > --Angie the Access'd out! > > ...there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path... > > --Morpheus > The Matrix > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:39:05 GMT From: Queen Lisa Subject: Richardson's Roundup Hey Canadians and those Americans who have access to the CBC! I just turned on CBC1 and Richardson's Roundup is playing some Fruvous today, apparently. Good old Bill. Good old Sad Goat. Lisa Moore Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:06:56 GMT From: CheesemonkeyGem Subject: re: Organ Grinder >As a new regular round these parts, I'm still working on >my Fruvous >collection(hey, 5 CDs in a month isn't too bad, huh?) >and wood is my latest. I >wassitting on the floor, working on a jigsaw puzzle, >and I _thought_ theCD was >over. Since I was sitting on the floor, I didn't feel >like getting upto >change the disk. I swear, I almost had a heart attack >when the hidden track >started playing. But hey, once it sunk in, I thought >it was pretty cool. heh, I've listened to Wood 7 kajillion times and i can say I still do that sometimes :)And i have speakers all over my room, making it come at me like a real voice right there in the room. It's hilarious--after I tell myself what a loser I am for having a heart attack :D - -jen ===== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Take me to your litre! -MC ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:27:02 GMT From: "Stephanie Hodges" Subject: Re: Charleston (this'll be quick! :) >Also, if you ever go to Charleston, make sure whoever is driving is the kind >of person who is *always* calm and relaxed. I don't think there are any two >way streets in Charleston, which makes it very difficult to find things if >you're from out of town, and worse if you're the kind of person who gets >unnecessarily frustrated and stressed when lost (like me! :) No. There are no two-way streets in Charleston. Even my fellow roadtripper, Logan, a native of Charleston (well, Hurricane, a half hour away), couldn't navigate us around. :) btw, Lawrence, were you sitting behind us? Very last row? There were a few Fruheads there. Stephanie "Frunique" Hodges www.fruhead.com/users/Frunique "Power beyond the twilight and crimson blood that flows Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows. I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand Against the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand." Lina Inverse's Dragon Slave, _The Slayers_ ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #955 ********************************************