From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #816 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, September 15 1999 Volume 03 : Number 816 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Moxy Fruvous Cuts the Clowning and Jian pics [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: Sleeping south [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] re: teachers, classmates, and fruvous (was shakey thingies) [Cheesemonkey] Re: Public Interest yesterday [Caitlin ] Re: Moxy Fruvous Cuts the Clowning and Jian pics [happygirl@fruhead.com (] Re: shakey thingies [SugarFly26@aol.com] Re: I have a college pal... [SugarFly26@aol.com] Re: I have a college pal... [Heybun@aol.com] Re: Sleeping south [fruwench@aol.com (FruWench)] Re: Earthquakes, etc. [vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin)] Re: shakey thingies [vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin)] Green eggs and ham [GRiddance1@aol.com] Re: I have a college pal... [Joe Navratil ] [FAQ] Re: Green eggs and ham [Joe Navratil ] Nestles .Sig (WAS:Re: shakey thingies) ["Cameron Ross" ] Re: I survived... sorta! [timiny ] A quick hello and it's back to lurking :) (Short Reviews of Columbus and Cleveland) [coondog42] Web maps (was Re: I survived... sorta!) [Joe Navratil ] Re: Earthquakes, etc. (long) [Melanie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Sep 1999 04:08:44 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: Moxy Fruvous Cuts the Clowning and Jian pics >>John Galt is Prometheus who changed his mind. After centuries of being torn by vultures in payment for having brought to men the fire of the gods, he broke his chains and he withdrew his fire- until the day when men withdrew their vultures' -Ayn Rand<< Wait.... who is John Galt?? ;-) ~jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23"-- Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."--Rent ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 1999 04:06:31 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: Sleeping south Lois queried: >> What in the heck is "sleeping south"???<< Well, I knew I'd read this at one point, but had forgotten what it said. So a little hunting on deja, and I dug up a post Lizzie sent early-April-ish: _____________ Hi everyone!   Yay spring break!  Now that I have time, I thought I'd post this, as there is a bit of Frucontent involved.  My grandmother got us a subscription to "New Age" magazine, and I found this the other day:   "Sleeping Directions"   Northeast: If your head points northeast, it can make you very ambitious but can also create a more disturbed sleep.   North: Sleeping with the top of your head pointing north promotes sound, healthy sleep.   South: This is a good direction for someone who is involved in a lot of intellectual work, from writing or mathematics to studying for exams.   Northwest: Pointing your head northwest can help you create a family. This is also the direction in which the head of a company should lay his or her head in order to receive more clarity and stronger organizational abilities.   Southeast: Positioning your bed in a southeastern direction will help you absorb energy that is good for relationships and finances while you sleep.   East: Sleeping with your head pointing east tends to give you more energy and makes it easier for you to wake up in the morning.  It can also improve your career prospects and financial situation.   West:  Sleeping with the head pointing west is good for those who have retired, have been working too hard and are stressed, or are taking a sabbatical.  It tends to give the sleeper a feeling of contentment.   Southwest:  If the head is pointing southwest, it can cause illness and is not generally recommended.   Quite random, I know.  But possibly offering insight into the meaning of Present Tense Tureen?   love Lizzie ____________ So-- I suppose a man who spends his time conversing with elves doesn't necesarily have quite the same focus as someone suited well to mathematical studies... ~jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23"-- Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."--Rent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:28:41 GMT From: CheesemonkeyGem Subject: re: teachers, classmates, and fruvous (was shakey thingies) I'm going to a new school this year, and when i told my music teacher about fruvous and my recent frutripping, he commented that he knows Mike Ford's dad quite well, and that he's a barbershop quartet singer :) Many years back, my teacher had asked him permission to perform King of Spain in their music ensemble, so that's what they did... neat eh? :) too bad i wasn't in that school then!! That would have been cool to watch! - -jen :) === __________________________________________________________ If at first you don't succeed... skydiving is not for you. __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:38:26 -0700 From: Caitlin Subject: Re: Public Interest yesterday On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Nicole the Wonder Nerd wrote: > Unless, of course, one LIKES sea shanties. :) and I'll surface long enough to say: "Freak!" (quietly hiding the Stan Rogers CD under my blanket, of course) Hey Nicole, is it too soon to start plotting the west coast trek and convincing people to join us? ____ \ /__ Caitlin Xantha Hazen \/ / caitlin@wayward-volvo.org \/ http://www.wayward-volvo.org/xanthe/ "Sweetness and lighter fluid..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:19:19 -0600 From: happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) Subject: Re: Moxy Fruvous Cuts the Clowning and Jian pics In article <19990915000844.02157.00000462@ng-fb1.aol.com>, jacey7@aol.com says... > Wait.... who is John Galt?? > > ;-) He's a real estate agent in Denver. I'm not kidding. k@ - -- The Katrin(tm) (white baked epoxy enamel) Toilet Tissue dispensers are made with 22 gauge steel, which assures security and minimizes vandalism and waste. They are equipped with a slotted viewing window for a quick check at a glance. All Katrin(tm) dispensers share one universal key. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:36:13 GMT From: SugarFly26@aol.com Subject: Re: shakey thingies I'm still a young unexperienced fruhead...what are these shakey things, and why do so many of you seem to bring them to shows? - ------------> Ln ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:45:19 GMT From: SugarFly26@aol.com Subject: Re: I have a college pal... jesmore wrote: << A line from Bargainville: "So contrary to the desparate sign, most patrons always 'please rewind!' And the clerks don't mind, they're very kind, the only stickler has resigned" I was thinking about this the other day, and I lost my certainty about the meaning of the lines. It's prolly one of these two options, though: (1) "The only stickler" is a certain customer who always refused to rewind his tapes, but fortunately he has resigned. (2) "The only stickler" is a certain employee who insists on enforcing the "please rewind" policy, and gives the customers heck when they don't. Fortunately, he has resigned. Well, which is it? I used to think it was (1), but now I'm not so sure. Either point can be argued. Discuss. --Novac >> I've been thinking it to be (2) but the thing that I never quite got, maybe cuz I'm interpreting it wrong? is when they say 'So contrary to the desperate sign, most patrons always please rewind.' Which always got me going huh? So the sign says don't rewind? What? And I think I'm missing something really obvious that will clear up all my confusion, so if anyone knows what it is, I'd like to hear it. :) thanks! - --------------> Ln ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:50:33 GMT From: Heybun@aol.com Subject: Re: I have a college pal... Jesmore wrote: <(2) "The only stickler" is a certain employee who insists on enforcing the <"please rewind" policy, and gives the customers heck when they don't. said: >my hypothesis is that "he " is Death, the Grim Reaper, whatever you want to >call him. Wow, Josh. I have never thought of that. (There's a surprise...) I've just compacently assumed that the song just passes from third-person to first-person. But that'd be too simplistic for Davelyrics, wouldn't it? >No clue about Hate Letter's >quiet vocals, though. Maybe they just wanted to be sure that you'd >crank it. Or it's just poorly mixed. :) Intentional though it might've been, it's my only Grudge (pun intended) with this CD. Seeing as it's one of my two favorite songs on Thornhill. - -v - ----- Vika Zafrin ----- vika@fruhead.com ----- "I am writing this an hour later and there is still a small demon in my stomach scratching to get out. And it's small and green and nasty. It murdered the antacid I gave it, and laughed." -Laura Lemay, re: wasabi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:40:39 GMT From: vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: shakey thingies SugarFly26@aol.com said: >I'm still a young unexperienced fruhead...what are these shakey things, and >why do so many of you seem to bring them to shows? They are shakers, in whatever form you find them, whether eggs (most common - ever seen the Chicken Shake brand?), cute vegetables or not-readily-recognizable shapes. People bring them to shows in order to play along with the Lads. - -v, and speaking of cute vegetables, I saw a stuffed Mountie Leaf Lettuce doll yesterday. Yes, with a Mountie hat on. How tacky is that in Providence, USA?[1] :) [1] The doll was part of an international collection. There's also an Italian zucchini, a U.S. corn, a Japanese mushroom, a French onion and ...another one that escapes me right now. - ----- Vika Zafrin ----- vika@fruhead.com ----- "I am writing this an hour later and there is still a small demon in my stomach scratching to get out. And it's small and green and nasty. It murdered the antacid I gave it, and laughed." -Laura Lemay, re: wasabi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:14:32 GMT From: GRiddance1@aol.com Subject: Green eggs and ham Is the song green eggs and ham on one of there cds.. if so which one. or is just one of those things where perform live too ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:18:29 -0400 From: Joe Navratil Subject: Re: I have a college pal... SugarFly LN wrote: > > I've been thinking it to be (2) but the thing that I never quite got, > maybe cuz I'm interpreting it wrong? is when they say 'So contrary to > the desperate sign, most patrons always please rewind.' Which always got > me going huh? So the sign says don't rewind? What? And I think I'm > missing something really obvious that will clear up all my confusion, so > if anyone knows what it is, I'd like to hear it. :) thanks! Wrt the original post, I agree that "the only stickler" was an employee who was hard and fast on the rewinding policy. The sign says "Please Rewind, or Face A $5 Fee" or somesuch. You know the type. The sign's very existence implies that most people don't think enough to rewind before they return their videos, which isn't the case. So the lyrics are saying a) the sign is 'desperate' because it's whining about a situation that rarely happens, and b) most patrons rewind. See? Simple :-) I've always liked this song; I just love the fact that the verse structure of most of VB is limerick-form. -Joe - -- There was an employee named Roger... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:25:31 -0400 From: Joe Navratil Subject: [FAQ] Re: Green eggs and ham GRiddance1@aol.com wrote: > > Is the song green eggs and ham on one of there cds.. if so which one. > or is just one of those things where perform live too From the New And Improved Fruvous FAQ, located at http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html (Hey Chad, is there any chance we could get a weekly pointer to the FAQ in addition to the monthly posting?) : ======= 1) Where can I get a copy of "Green Eggs and Ham?" A studio recording of "Green Eggs and Ham" is no longer available. It was the only one of the six tracks on the indie tape that was not rerecorded for _Bargainville_. It was also included as a hidden track on a three-song "sampler" tape Fruvous offered after _Bargainville_ was released. They will probably never record it again, though: hearsay is that Dr. Seuss' will states that his material can only be used and licensed for educational purposes. Odds being against your finding the indie or sampler tape, your best bet is to ask someone to copy it for you. Fruvous frequently performs this at their live shows, usually segued from King of Spain into a shortened version of the song with the additional perk of Murray's bass line. The long version of the song is a special treat live, and usually includes some of the old costumes and banter from the original version of the song. ======= Check out the rest of the FAQ, too, while you're at it -- it's chock-full of Fruvulicious Goodness! HTH, HAND. -Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:07:23 GMT From: "Cameron Ross" Subject: Nestles .Sig (WAS:Re: shakey thingies) >N-E-S-T-L-E-S... >Nestle's makes the very best... >CHAWWW...KLAT...(pop) is it me... or could that possibly fit quite well to 1/2 as much... although I haven't heard 1/2 as much 1/2 as much as anyone else here (me want thornhill *pout*)? Life101 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:47:35 GMT From: "Jennifer Schlosser" Subject: Re: I'm really bummed Chrissy said: > I was going to go to see Moxy Fruvous on Saturday here in Chicago, but I've > been sick the past two days and my mom is worried about me because > Fruvous doesn't come on until 12:30 a.m. and she thinks I'll get sick again. > I'M REALLY UPSET ABOUT THIS!! Fruvous Heals. I went to see them the day after I had nine stitches in my knee. I felt better after the concert. Really. Go to the concert. You will be cured. Jennifer "I don't usually post strange messages, but it's early" S. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 05:43:40 -0700 From: timiny Subject: Re: I survived... sorta! >5) Mapquest still sucks, I don't care what anyone says. The >least they could do was mention SOMETHING about the flats >or the pretty (and distracting) blue bridge in Ohio... who >knew that's where we had to go??? > Mapquest is very inferior to Mapblast, I have found. The nicest thing about Mapblast is is that you don't have to put in a complete street address or even a street address at all. It has a "city center" feature where you merely put in the city you want to get to (which is often good enough when you don't know exactly where you're going anyway) and you can even put in a city-only address from where you're starting in case you're unfamiliar with both locations. It also doesn't generally send you through a bit of road that doesn't exist like Mapquest does! I think it has mappings for other countries, too. Anyway, just my push for Mapblast. - -Matt * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:36:27 GMT From: coondog42@my-deja.com Subject: A quick hello and it's back to lurking :) (Short Reviews of Columbus and Cleveland) Hi! I just wanted to drop a quick post and say what a pleasure it was to meet all of my online friends over the past weekend at the Cleveland and Columbus Shows... and Melanie, I will try and find a church I like :) A quick synapsis: Cleveland- A very good show, high energy... Jian's attempted ethnic clensing (Renegade Jews and their offering they placed on stage) ..I think some people were a bit disappointed that there was no KoS, but OH WELL... personally I was happy to have a show without it, they have so many songs that we NEVER hear live... Columbus- Side Note: The opening 'band' (I use that term very loosly) SUCKED, there is no way around it.... I particularly to offense to the 'Hill- billy Fag Bar' song. If you'd like me to rant and roar about this more, please contact me privatly. On with the good stuff! "It's Sunday nigh and Fruvous is in town!" Another high energy show, the band admits that they have hit the mid- career slump, have niether the energy of their youth, nor the old age willing to recapture it... they just are quoting hotel room dialog... "but you love that right?" ...it was actually rather funny... I recieved my highlight of the evening when after the show when Jian signed my copy of 'Jian' (the book) and he proceeded to read reviews of himself... "Jian is like brush strokes on a canvas..." then, Dave came out signed Jian and kissed me on the cheek as not to leave me out (he had previously kissed 5 or 6 girls, and I wnated some of that action) *g* Well, I'm going to leave you with that lustful story and look forward to seeing everyone at Detroit and Chicago... - -Mark _MrB_ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:48:11 +0000 From: Joe Navratil Subject: Web maps (was Re: I survived... sorta!) timiny wrote: > > Mapquest is very inferior to Mapblast, I have found. >[...] > It also doesn't generally send you through a bit of road that > doesn't exist like Mapquest does! > Thanks for the plug for an alternate web-based mapper, Matt -- however, I just plugged in a few 'test' routes (drives I know well), to see what it came back with, and in at least three of the seven routes it drove me down a road that doesn't exist (no, I'm *not* kidding -- Sandalwood Circle has never existed anywhere near my house on Leslie Circle); of course, they were all through roughly the same place right near my apartment. I really like their printer-friendly format in comparison to MQ's "Damn the Load Time, Full Banners Ahead!" format. I'll probably be printing out directions from both MapQuest and MapBlast from now on, and taking the average or something ;-) -Joe ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 1999 14:46:02 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Green eggs and ham And how will GRiddance1 find out the answer to this and other burning questions if he has successfully unsubscribed? ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 1999 14:43:11 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: I have a college pal... I am positive that it's a clerk who was a stickler to the "please rewind" policy to whom they're referring ... and I guess he resigned which is good because now ALL of the clerks are very kind instead of most with the exception of that one jerk (and I am hoping I'm closer to being right on this one than I was on the "sleeping south" question). QL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:21:31 -0600 From: happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) Subject: Re: Earthquakes, etc. In article <37df82a6.40831075@news3.ibm.net>, vika@fruhead.com says... > Josh Drury said: > >my hypothesis is that "he" is Death, the Grim Reaper, whatever you want to > >call him. > Wow, Josh. I have never thought of that. (There's a surprise...) > I've just compacently assumed that the song just passes from > third-person to first-person. But that'd be too simplistic for > Davelyrics, wouldn't it? Yeah, I hadn't thought of it either, and I like Josh's interpretation a lot. I'd assumed that the "he" referred to a deity/supreme being, and was a little surprised at what seemed to be such an overt religious statement[1] in the song. The idea that "he" is Death does put an interesting, if somewhat depressing, spin on the lyrics. And yeah, it still is one of my favorite songs on the album. [1] As opposed to simply a *reference* to a religious figure as part of a song's imagery - "He doesn't care..." sounded more like a statement of specific belief, said as if it's a fact[2]. [2] Not saying it's necessarily a good OR a bad thing - but it's None Of Our Business, hence my surprise when I took the lyrics that way. k@ - -- The Katrin(tm) (white baked epoxy enamel) Toilet Tissue dispensers are made with 22 gauge steel, which assures security and minimizes vandalism and waste. They are equipped with a slotted viewing window for a quick check at a glance. All Katrin(tm) dispensers share one universal key. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:42:14 -0600 From: happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) Subject: Re: I'm really bummed In article <001401beff77$7d7281c0$c7317218@cr450016- b.flfrd1.on.wave.home.com>, ferf@home.com says... > Chrissy In Chicago said: > > been sick the past two days and my mom is worried about me because > > Fruvous doesn't come on until 12:30 a.m. and she thinks I'll get sick > > again. I'M REALLY UPSET ABOUT THIS!! Jennifer S. said: > Fruvous Heals. > I went to see them the day after I had nine stitches in my knee. I felt > better after the concert. Really. Go to the concert. You will be cured. It is true. I don't want to cause hysteria here, but I must give my personal testimony: Back in February, while grabbing for a setlist at the end of a show, I *inadvertently, accidentally* touched...well, one of the instruments. I'm not saying which. I don't want to condone mad rushes toward the stage in an attempt to find a miracle cure. Musical instruments are delicate, precision equipment and should never be handled without the owner's permission. But anyway. My sprained ankle suddenly stopped hurting, and while 'most everyone else in attendance was struck down with the infamous FrüCon Death Flu, I was mysteriously immune. In fact, I didn't get sick again at all until this past weekend. Apparently the Früvous Healing Miracle has a lifespan of approximately seven months before it must be replenished. Fortunately I'm headed to some more shows later this week. Chrissy In Chicago, show this to your mom. Let her know that you really can't afford *not* to go. :) k@ - -- The Katrin(tm) (white baked epoxy enamel) Toilet Tissue dispensers are made with 22 gauge steel, which assures security and minimizes vandalism and waste. They are equipped with a slotted viewing window for a quick check at a glance. All Katrin(tm) dispensers share one universal key. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 1999 11:29:03 -0500 From: Norris Thomlinson Subject: Bootlegs for download The IRC channel #tape_trade_central on dalnet is running a bootleg VQF ftp server. It's entirely leech, but to get in, you have to come by the IRC channel to ask someone for the password, and hopefully to hang out and chat a bit. The password is also mentioned in the topic, so if no one's around to ask, just check that. *********PLEASE READ******** We ask that you not distribute any cdr's burned from these vqf's. If you want to burn yourself a copy, go for it, but *please* don't trade them. Circulating lower quality shows is a bad thing for the whole trading community. If you find something you want on cdr, you can probably set up a trade with one of us in the channel for it. If you don't know anything about IRC, grab a client from http;//www.mirc.com Once you have it installed, use "irc.dal.net" for the IRC server, and then join channel #tape_trade_central For more info on the channel, VQFs, the ftp, or IRC, check out our page at http://ttc.insubordination.org If you have trouble getting on IRC, email me and I'll try to help you out. Cheers, Norris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:21:38 GMT From: Melanie Subject: Re: Earthquakes, etc. (long) Josh Drury wrote: >>I came up with a hypothesis of my own, but I'm open to suggestions. Anyhoo, my hypothesis is that "he " is Death, the Grim Reaper, whatever you want to call him. << Ouch! That's depressing, particularly from someone who writes such funny stuff (Josh, that is). OK, I have a take on this, but some people may find it overtly religious. But it's just my hypothesis, so please take it as you'd take anyone else's interpretation of lyrics. I think "he" is God. "He doesn't care if you're punctual . . ." Temporality is a human condition; God exists outside of time so, to God, being early or on time or late doesn't matter at all. "and he don't care if you're dysfunctional, we only recently heard that word." Just look at some of the earliest stories of humanity-- the ones I happen to know are from the Bible. The first people (as represented by Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, etc.) were like totally dysfunctional. Human beings have ALWAYS been dysfunctional. If dysfunctionality mattered a lot to God, God would have wiped out humanity a long time ago. That, apparently, wasn't the decision God made. "And the infamous nicotine user, I think he doesn't really care about that." I think that, when God looks at a person's heart, God doesn't see whether it's clogged from nicotine use. God sees the true heart of a person. It's human beings that get all wrapped up in inconsequentials. "J" type people on the Myers-Briggs scale condemn "P" type people for being late or sloppy. And some people define their lives by the level of dysfunctionality they had to live through growing up. And human beings condemn others for things like smoking. Let's face it, some non-smokers, to hear them talk, think that smokers are the spawn of Satan. But God doesn't care about those things. God cares about the beautiful creation God has made, including human beings. The song, to me, is saying, "Don't look at the little things that usually drive you crazy. Those things aren't real. Look at the things that you usually take for granted--the things that are truly AWEsome. Look at the clouds in all their variations, from wispy to puffy to thunderous. Look at the power of the earth that is usually held tightly leashed, but which sometimes explodes in uncontrollable force. Look at the moon and how it appears in all its variability because of how the sun and moon and earth relate to one another and how they have been set in the sky. There's a passage from the Christian part of the Bible (as opposed to the Hebrew Bible, which Christians sometimes refer to as the Old Testament which I acknowledge would sound arrogant if I were Jewish) where Jesus says, "Don't worry about what you are to eat or what you are to wear," i.e., don't worry about little things, inconsequential things. "The gentiles (i.e., those who don't know God) worry about those things." "Look at the lilies of the field, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed as one of these." In other words, even Bill Gates, with all his money and technology, can't create something as beautiful and intricate and simple as a flower. So, look at the flower. THAT'S what will keep you grounded when the world seems to be deteriorating in pettiness and inconsequentials. [And, by the way, Jesus says that the flowers are here today and gone tomorrow. If God cares so much about something so small and brief, how much more does God care about YOU/US who are much more significant than a flower.] This bracketed part is NOT IMO part of the interpretation of Earthquakes, but it is something I believe. As I said, this is what the song says to me, and I'd be perfectly content to change the "he" to "she." *grin* It would still mean the same thing. Please note: A) Just because I quoted the Bible, does not mean that I'm evil or judgemental. B) Just because I do Not take the Bible literally (which I don't), does not mean that I'm evil and damned to Hell. I take the Bible seriously, not literally. I hope I haven't managed to annoy nearly everyone on the ng. melanie "And I'm [still] pissed that I'm not gettin' younger, gettin' pretty, gettin' love, gettin' laid." 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