From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #795 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, September 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 795 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT: Grammar (was Re: Wood typos) [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at f] Conan ["Lindsay Lion" ] Re: Moxy on Conan (was Re: (no subject)) [Josh Drury ] Re: conan tickets ["Lindsay Lion" ] Re: OT: Grammar (was Re: Wood typos) [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at f] Re: My Review [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: [Interp] Down From Above [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead d] OT: Line Length (was typos) ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: caps/no caps (was Re: Wood typos) [Lawrence P Solomon ] Re: Down From Above ["Carey Farrell" ] Button Update (was Re: disappearing ammf buttons) [Chad Maloney ] Re: Thornhill = Beatles [Ellen ] Re: Down From Above [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: [Interp] MPG (very long) [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead d] Re: Conan [serra44@aol.com (Jill Friedman)] Re: [Interp] MPG (very long) [Bridget ] checking in [SnarkiFru ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 07 Sep 1999 16:52:19 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: OT: Grammar (was Re: Wood typos) Vika said: > didn't we have someone post from one of the Scandinavian countries >a couple months back?... And don't we *know* we have several French-Canadians among us? Sheesh. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:48:34 -0500 From: "Lindsay Lion" Subject: Conan Go to the nbc website - www.nbc.com - there is a link to Conan. There is a number to call for tickets! I just don't remember offhand. Take care, Lindsay - -- - --- Lindsay Lion Manager of Operations & Technology Biosyn, Inc. llion@biosyn-inc.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:49:09 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Moxy on Conan (was Re: (no subject)) Winnie da Fru aka Sara wrote: > Moxy announced at Beachfest yesterday that the date has just been confirmed > - they will be appearing on October 12 on Conan. So set your VCRs > everybody. Done. But now I can't rent any movies for five weeks. Bummer. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:43:49 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: IWHO (Was: Will the real Fruvous please, etc.) FruWench wrote: > I believe (I could be wrong, I've slept since then) that at Ocean City, Jian > commented that SOME people saw this as a love song, while SOME people saw it as > an obsessive song about loving someone too much. Or something like that. I > remember thinking he was really covering his bases with the intro. Y'know, I glanced over this post earlier and didn't want to respond before I gave it a good listen. But after hearing it, I'm pretty sure it's a good solid (if somewhat sappy) love song, showing true devotion. The only uncertainty is the reaction of the love interest, whether they are unused to this kind of attention, but it sounds sincere enough to me. It is certainly not among the ranks of greatly misunderstood songs of the past, such as "Every Breath You Take", "The One I Love", and "Heterosexual Man" (not to mention "The Greatest Man in America, for those really slow on satire). So, it's a love song to me, and you'll need some good arguments to convince me otherwise. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 16:59:57 GMT From: bktahoe@my-deja.com Subject: Re: OT: Grammar (was Re: Wood typos) In article <37D3E712.A93C3655@gwu.edu>, Loren Becker wrote: > I'd also like to echo the plea that people set their preferences to > wrap outgoing message text at 72 characters per line. Scrolling > across in order to read a full paragraph of text is really hard on > my eyes. In addition to wrapping outgoing messages @ 72 chars, I think everyone ought to download and USE this utility: http://www.RoundhillSoftware.com/MessageCleaner BK - --------------------------------------------------------- This message has been cleaned by MessageCleaner.exe v2.06 http://www.RoundhillSoftware.com/MessageCleaner?GcNZWDIeu - --------------------------------------------------------- Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:27:07 -0600 From: happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) Subject: Re: OT: Grammar (was Re: Wood typos) In article <37D4765E.FA4DD56@syr.edu>, lcbridge@syr.edu says... > As far as line length goes (since some people have > been complaining about this) I wonder if those who > continually write messages with a paragraph spread > across one line realize this. It may be that on > their news viewing service, it appears normally. > Perhaps when people complain about this they ought > to mention who they are complaining about. Um...okay...if I must... Saphira and Melanie: Your spelling, grammar and punctuation are just fine! But please, please set your line length to 80. Thank you. k@ - -- The Katrin(tm) (white baked epoxy enamel) Toilet Tissue dispensers are made with 22 gauge steel, which assures security and minimizes vandalism and waste. They are equipped with a slotted viewing window for a quick check at a glance. All Katrin(tm) dispensers share one universal key. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 1999 17:34:57 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Thornhill = Beatles Josh Drury said: >Oh, I forgot, the Oasis lads don't read this newsgroup. Dang. And here I thought Liam was "our favorite lurker-boy." - -- Lori, confused as usual ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 13:52:56 -0400 From: dopeytoo Subject: conan tickets i just called the nbc people.... the earliest available conan taping is...... OCTOBER 13!!!!!! aaargh. i guess i'll have to camp out the night before to get standby tickets at like 7 am or whenever they do that. oh, poo. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:02:13 -0500 From: "Lindsay Lion" Subject: Re: conan tickets Really? Wow. I called this morning, and they were still giving out tickets for the 12th. Hmmm. - -- - --- Lindsay Lion Manager of Operations & Technology Biosyn, Inc. llion@biosyn-inc.com dopeytoo wrote in message news:37D550F8.72D5@prodigy.net... > i just called the nbc people.... the earliest available conan taping > is...... OCTOBER 13!!!!!! aaargh. i guess i'll have to camp out the > night before to get standby tickets at like 7 am or whenever they do > that. oh, poo. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:01:08 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: OT: Grammar (was Re: Wood typos) Loren requested, and BK [a new poster! Welcome BK! Check out the FAQ and everything else at http://fruvous.com!] reiterated: >> wrap outgoing message text at 72 characters per line. Scrolling >> across in order to read a full paragraph of text is really hard on >> my eyes. In defense of aol users (and I know, that's indefensible all by itself ;) ) I'd like to point out that the aol newsreader linewrap seems to be set in stone at 80 characters/line. I have found no way of changing this. What makes it even more confusing is that when writing the post, each line appears as 42 characters. I try to remember to hit the enter key midway through every second line, but sometimes I forget, and sometimes I misjudge where the keystroke should fall, with the result that some lines look like this. (Which annoys the hell out of me when I see the post.) And that's even BEFORE I go back and insert something I forgot, or move a sentence to another place, which messes up any careful line spacing I might have tried to do. :P A small blessing is that I've never seen my posts extend BEYOND 80 chars, although the only time I would even notice this is when I have cause to check the archive. Anyway, I'm sorry if this is an annoyance to anyone, but I have no real fix at my disposal. - -- Lori the penitent. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:11:54 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: My Review AJ said: > Vika Zafrin said: >> All I know is that, at FruCon I, when they were introducing Dusty >> Fosterboard (yes, that's what it sounds like to me, as opposed to >> Fosterbourne), > >Thank goodness! I thought I was the only one! :) Chad M. says Fosterboard/Fosterbourd too (I questioned him about it for the FAQ, having only every heard this personage referred to as "Dusty" :) ) - -- Lori, under the delusion that if AJ, Vika, and Chad all agree on something, it *must* be true. ;) ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:24:11 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: [Interp] Down From Above Chad M. said: >It's a dirty job but they're very suave >Jesus high on wine, weeping turpentine >What are they doing in there? >Have they got guns? >Make you run up and down the same hill >And they'll break your will > >Full chorus here. It adds more mystery to it, asking what are they >doing in there and how safe is it. For the last two lines, I >get the image of the child having to do drill workouts until he >is tired tired tired, maybe as punishment for not learning >the lessons taught. As I think about the chorus more, I think of the parallels in imagery between Christ and the child in the song. Are "they" in the song the church/cult leaders in the child's life, or the Pharisees and rank-and-file doing the Roman leadership's dirty work? Is "the hill" on which "they" punish this child in order to break his will Calvary, which soldiers forced Christ to ascend under a heavy burden? Those soldiers would not have had guns, but their modern counterparts certainly would. Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~~^~ ^~^~^ ~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~ ^~^ ^~^~^~ ^~^~ ^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:38:28 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: OT: Line Length (was typos) Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > In defense of aol users (and I know, that's indefensible all by itself ;) ) > I'd like to point out that the aol newsreader linewrap seems to be set in > stone at 80 characters/line. I have found no way of changing this. - --snip-- > Anyway, I'm sorry if this is an annoyance to anyone, but I have no > real fix at my disposal. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it is 72 vs 80 characters that is the problem here. I don't think many people are still using a resolution so low that they cannot get 80 characters across their screens. 72 is merely a convention from long ago. Rather I think the point is to have lines wrap at somewhere =around= 72-80 characters so that lines don't go on forever. Lori, FWIW, you can probably stop inserting those carriage returns in the middle of every other line. I don't think THAT is gonna make a difference. A.J. - -- Mariaweb last updated 5/13/99. See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:02:21 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: caps/no caps (was Re: Wood typos) Ellen wrote: > hmmm. would you believe me if i told you that this had honestly never > occurred to me before? i know that all caps is hard on the eyes, but no > caps doesn't really both me at all, and no one's ever told me that it was > irritating to the eyes, so i assumed (perhaps wrongly) that it wasn't. i > am now rethinking this assumption; i didn't realize that a lack of caps > makes it more difficult for a non-native-english-speaker to read. I don't think it's hard on the eyes at all, but then again, I'm in the process of ordering return address labels that are all in lowercase.[1] being a computer programmer type, and one who perfers C and perl above all other languages, uppercase letters online are almost irrelevant to me. I use punctuation to separate my thoughts, and occasionally I'll use capital letters, like for acronyms and names. funny, though, when writing things out by hand, I'll always use standard capitalization rules... [1] I don't even know if they'll do it. but I would like to think that the post office can figure out where to return my mail if they need to. ("uh oh. this says 'ellsworth ave.' and the sign says 'Ellsworth.'") - -- Lawrence Solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left blank. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:24:48 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: IWHO (Was: Will the real Fruvous please, etc.) Josh Drury wrote: > Y'know, I glanced over this post earlier and didn't want to respond before I > gave it a good listen. But after hearing it, I'm pretty sure it's a good solid > (if somewhat sappy) love song, showing true devotion. The only uncertainty is > the reaction of the love interest, whether they are unused to this kind of > attention, but it sounds sincere enough to me. It is certainly not among the Jian actually described it to me as a "sad love song," as part of the phrase "sad love song trilogy" when I told him that my three favorite songs were Misplaced, IWHO, and Fly. (I had commented that they'd played my three favorite songs at the Ramshead, so he asked which they were. and yes, I felt a little bad listing those three titles quickly with Murray, Mike, and Dave also sitting right there. so I think at the next show I'll have to tell them my favorite three songs are Bed and Breakfast, Down from Above, and The Drinking Song :) So, in either case, it can be called a "love song," whether it's a sad one or not. ("it's a bittersweet song... no, no, not Bittersweet... I said it was a *new* song!" -Jian, 11/4/98) as the hopeless romantic that I am, I've always loved this song. kind of a theme song, in a way - I want to have someone I *can* "hold on" to and who won't tell me to "hold off." the biggest problem is if they don't make it clear what they want and I try too hard and she decides I'm obsessing too much and can't handle that (and that's happened twice so far) - -- Lawrence Solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left blank. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:46:15 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: My Review Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > -- Lori, under the delusion that if AJ, Vika, and Chad all agree on something, > it *must* be true. ;) What do you mean delusion? :) A.J. - -- Mariaweb last updated 5/13/99. See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:02:02 GMT From: "Carey Farrell" Subject: Re: Down From Above Lori wrote: >Aaack. Wouldn't you know, I had this song coursing through my >subconscious all night long. NOT a pleasant dream state, as you can >imagine. Strangely, I had never really thought about the words to DFA until people started interpreting them this week. I don't know how it's possible to sing along obliviously to those lyrics, but I did. Now for the past few days the song has been haunting me, and it peaked at about 3 this morning, while a car alarm blared for half an hour outside my window. Of course, if the words weren't creepy enough by themselves, I now have kat's synopsis of the video lurking in my head as well -- which is probably even freakier, because when I try to picture the costumes they're wearing, they end up looking like Tim Curry in Rocky Horror! Carey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:58:52 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Button Update (was Re: disappearing ammf buttons) Tamra wrote: > > Gasp! Its a plague! My SASE showed up buttonless > as well -- must be those sorter/zipcode machines at the PO > that are kinda squeezing the buttons out. > Wow, imagine all those "postal" PO workers finding > mangled ammf buttons in their sorter machines and having no > clue as to what it means...hope we don't send them over the > edge or anything =) Just to reply to this officially, I've started to wrap buttons in paper now when I send them out. I'm hoping it will alleviate this problem while not adding too much weight. I still think 2 buttons should send for 1 stamp. If you lost your button in the mail, please send me another SASE or see me at a show. I'll be at Clevelend->BG->Columbus this weekend. Sorry to all the people who have lost buttons in the mail. Hopefully this is worked out now. Also, as far as compensating me for putting the money up front, all my plans so far aren't working out, so I've put up a website and am referencing it in the button info email I send when people request a button. Please check it out and if you want to support the ammf buttons, follow the instructions there. The page is: http://www.fruhead.com/users/Chad/ammf-pin.html Thanks everyone for being so supportive of the buttons. I appreciate the positive emails. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:03:16 -0400 From: "Ken Perschke" Subject: Re: Moxy on Conan (was Re: (no subject)) > > Moxy announced at Beachfest yesterday that the date has just been confirmed > - they will be appearing on October 12 on Conan. So set your VCRs > everybody. > Not that I don't trust any parties involved, but has there been official confirmation of this date. I don't want to do anything until I know for sure that I'm getting tickets for the right date. Jude: would it be a problem to post confirmation, assuming you have it? Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:14:54 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: Down From Above - --- Carey Farrell wrote: > Of course, if the words > weren't creepy enough by themselves, I now have > kat's synopsis of the video > lurking in my head as well -- which is probably > even freakier, because when > I try to picture the costumes they're wearing, > they end up looking like Tim > Curry in Rocky Horror! wow. now that i think about it, they _do_ kind of remind me of tim curry. carey, not a bad description for someone who's never seen the video!! (o: === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "I don't need a compass to tell me which way the wind shines!" ~Mr. Furious, 'Mystery Men' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:51:47 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: Thornhill = Beatles In article <19990907133457.07302.00002547@ng-fu1.aol.com>, srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) wrote: > >Oh, I forgot, the Oasis lads don't read this newsgroup. > > Dang. And here I thought Liam was "our favorite lurker-boy." it *would* be a very easy typo, wouldn't it? liam lian jian jiam liam. ;) peace, ellen (liam liam liam, i just like saying "liam") **************************************************************** It's not the colors that matter, but that we all fade away Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 1999 20:06:56 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Down From Above Carey said: >Strangely, I had never really thought about the words to DFA until people >started interpreting them this week. I don't know how it's possible to sing >along obliviously to those lyrics, but I did. Now for the past few days the >song has been haunting me, and it peaked at about 3 this morning, Sorry. :( Amazing how we can ignore what we don't want to comprehend though, isn't it? That's how I was with It's Too Cold (groovy song! cool! They sound like they're having a party in the studio!) -- until Chad had to go and analyse it and cause me grave heebie-jeebies and ruin it, that is. Sheesh. Just kidding, Mahoney. :) - -- Lori **************** just not in a sigging mood today ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 1999 20:56:42 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: [Interp] MPG (very long) Trace said: Wow, Trace said so much that it's hard to reply. Stunned me into near-silence with all that Marxist hippie pinko commie crap, she did! ;) A few of her observations bear further consideration, however: > Lost in Union Station > > I love this line.  It picks up most of the recurring themes in >the song: lack of direction, loss of control, and indecisiveness in >the face of overwhelming choices, through the use of modern >transportation as a metaphor.  The narrator's generation is lost and >disoriented in a transportation hub filled with choices of where to go >and what direction to take, but they don't know where they should go; >they don't know what train they should choose, and so they stand in >indecision.  Perhaps they will simply get on the nearest train, >surrender control and let it take them where it may.  The next train, or the most frequently-running train. Settling for the conventional -- in education, in career, in lifestyle choices -- not because they don't recognize the limitations the conventional poses, but because time constraints and information overload render them unable to reflect on what might work out better -- for them as individuals, and for society as a whole. I mean, joining the Peace Corps or building a commune is nice and all, but who's got the *time*? While you're doing that, modern life is passing you by. And much as we resent the notion, many of us are not only slaves to the "advantages" of modern life, but are not willing to give up -- even fear we are incapable of existing without -- the *things* that bind us. > Again, the lack of direction theme resurfaces, here with an >allusion to rampant materialism and capitalism as underlying causes.  We can't find ourselves in things or options; they are what we use to escape ourselves, and ultimately we run the risk of losing ourselves in them. >Reflections >within reflections, hundreds of them all around, and drifting around >the person in all those reflections is money.  Imagewise this draws back to the first verse -- an ocean of choices, one for each reflection, so confusing that the person just chooses the simplest one by default, without making a real choice at all - -- and so he is not himself, but just a reflection of himself. It doesn't have to be that way -- but MPG seems to say that it's much harder now for someone to follow his own path, or even to figure out that he might have his own path, than it was in the past. That while political and economic chains may have bound prior generations, this generation (in the US/Canada/Northern Europe at least) is faced with a bewildering array of "freedoms" and "advantages" that for the most part are all so conventional that they're not liberating at all, but perhaps even more spiritually crippling. - -- Lori ******************* grounded with nothing to stand on ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 1999 21:11:10 GMT From: serra44@aol.com (Jill Friedman) Subject: Re: Conan >Go to the nbc website - www.nbc.com - there is a link to Conan. > >There is a number to call for tickets! I just don't remember offhand. My mom's been calling all day, but there's been no answer. : ( - -J writing a song called the Ballad of Jill V. Fruhead Member of the Jian fan club Owner of all the MF albums and all of Ani DiFranco's "She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter Too short to play herself in a movie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 21:31:05 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: [Interp] MPG (very long) - --- Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > > It doesn't have to be that way -- but MPG seems > to say that it's much harder > now for someone to follow his own path, or even > to figure out that he might > have his own path, than it was in the past. all i know is, mpg has become the official bridget theme song... (o; === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget (a month away from 27 and still not sure what she wants to be when she grows up...) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 21:54:10 GMT From: SnarkiFru Subject: checking in 1) I know I don't always write in perfect grammar, I really don't care. I'm not back-slamming anyone who expressed concerns or exasperation at some of the other posters (I know for a fact some of who were being implied, but that's just 'cause I catch these things), just figured I'd say I don't care about punctuation or spelling... I do hate rambling and "beating around the bush" so if you have something to say, just say it. 2) I'm tired, not really feeling like teaching tonight, but survived my weekend in Toronto. Had a great time really... review forthcoming. 3) How can I be "in the thick of it" and totally miss it??? I'm in line talking to Dave and Mike... and Mike and Murray and Jian all ask me almost at once if I'm going to be in the video. Besides hearing some garbled half commentary about it in line, this is THE FIRST I HEARD OF IT!!! They don't have info and tell me to find Jude, I can't find Jude, I call her from MC/hKath/Mike/Dave's house (y'all need to name your domicile, btw) and leave a message, and talk to her briefly today... and miss it. She hasn't called me back, but I know I'm too late and they won't need me. Why do I always seem to miss the important stuff??? ARRGHHH!!! I figures, my class tomorrow is cancelled and I don't have to teach again until Thurs nite... timing's perfect but opportunity is missed. I'm so depressed. anyway, interps of DFA and a few others I've been working on are almost done. maybe that's what I'll do tomorrow since I don't have to drive back to Toronto... *sigh* - --Angie not feeling very Snarki _or_ effervescent... On the Road of Life I strive to be a Speed Bump ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #795 ********************************************